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Title: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 16, 2007, 05:59:04 AM
I have read some posts here that say you should split your oral doses such as winny during the day.  From what I have read this seems like bad advice. 
I believe it was Bill Lewellyn ( sorry if I mispelled you name ) said that taking one dose a day would have a single pass on you liver of a certain amount of the product.  By taking two small doses you are making your liver do twice the work in one day and hence harming it.  I think he said that there is a certain amount of toxicity that happens whether you take 25 or 50 mg so by splitting it you are doubling the toxicity.

I am interested to see if anyone agrees or not.
Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: freakfestMD on January 16, 2007, 09:33:32 AM
The reason for recommending split-dosing during the day is based on the half-life of around 9 hours for oral winny.  Bill's thought is an intriguing one, however I am not sure it is really founded.  For example, acetaminophen (Tylenol) is extremely toxic to the liver, very much in a dose-dependent fashion.  You can safely take 650mg every 6 hours for 24 hours (for a total of 2400mg in 24 hours), but a dose of 2600mg all at once would be rather hepatotoxic.

I'd have to see more evidence presented on this.
Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: w_llewellyn on January 16, 2007, 09:59:35 AM
That is not my thought. There has been no study that I know of showing that twice per day offers any more or less hepatotoxicity than one.



Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 16, 2007, 10:09:06 AM
That is not my thought. There has been no study that I know of showing that twice per day offers any more or less hepatotoxicity than one.


Sorry Bill, I know I read this somewhere and thought it might have been you.  I will try to find the link of where I read about the toxicity being better taking it at once.

Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: w_llewellyn on January 16, 2007, 10:19:56 AM
Np.. Happens quite often. So many writers and so many thoughts out there; hard to keep track..

Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: hooker on January 17, 2007, 06:41:16 AM
Maybe it was Bill Roberts, not Bill Llewellyn who said that.

Bill Llewellyn...Bill Roberts...anthony roberts....maybe I should have stuck with hooker...our names are all too close... ;)
Title: Re: Winstrol and liver toxicity
Post by: GroinkTropin on January 17, 2007, 06:59:03 AM
The reason for recommending split-dosing during the day is based on the half-life of around 9 hours for oral winny.  Bill's thought is an intriguing one, however I am not sure it is really founded.  For example, acetaminophen (Tylenol) is extremely toxic to the liver, very much in a dose-dependent fashion.  You can safely take 650mg every 6 hours for 24 hours (for a total of 2400mg in 24 hours), but a dose of 2600mg all at once would be rather hepatotoxic.

I'd have to see more evidence presented on this.

Egads my uncle has a bad back, and tends to take up to 20 a day. Funny thing though, hes 45, and still fairly healthy, despite a pack a day habit and shit diet. I wonder if all the cofee he drinks is keeping him alive....