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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: AFOX on January 19, 2007, 03:29:45 PM
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Hi have a question for anyone who might know. I live in kansas City and there is a guy who opened a Beyond Failure gym in Blue Springs. This guy is named Larry Maples and he claims to be the "co-creator " of Beyond Failure with Trevor. He has a web site under "Beyond Failure Cross Training", were he makes some of his claims on there. I think every word out of this guys mouth is a lie, and It bothers me that this guy might be taking credit for a dead persons work. He said he and Trevor met in 1999 and that was when the system was created. I just thought any who was close to the man might be interested in this information. He has also claimed to have trained a number of bodybuilders who have said they have never heard of him.
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The replies to this will be interesting. Trevor Smith took my brother from this....
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TO THIS.....
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Thats an impressive transformation. This guy Larry Maples is pissing off people all over Kansas City with his lies. I think one of Trevors friends should call this guy on this.
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Grant how long did it take to transform him into that? Did he make him use BFT?
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Steroids really are fucking brilliant.
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AFOX - This guy is full of shit. Anyone on here who REALLY knew Trevor knows the truth behind Beyond Failure Training. Trevors partner, Ian Harrison, was and is the person who came up with BFT. Ian agreed to allow Trevor to take credit for this as he remained a silent partner in the business.
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trevor didnt do that steriods did :P
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Damn Grant, your bro got jacked. Good job.
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your brother was pretty big in that shot Grant but holy shit look at the size of Ian Harrison.
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http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39691
best thread on the net right now...if you can read this and not learn something....I don't know what to tell you.
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AFOX - This guy is full of shit. Anyone on here who REALLY knew Trevor knows the truth behind Beyond Failure Training. Trevors partner, Ian Harrison, was and is the person who came up with BFT. Ian agreed to allow Trevor to take credit for this as he remained a silent partner in the business.
Good post!
My brother was certainly not drug free ....but his budget limited him to pretty lose doses. He really did not do that much .... but his diet was strict and he and Ian and Trevor trained like animals possessed!
I'll PM you guys whatever info you need on what supplements my brother took. Pretty low doses ..... seriously. I was watching!
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your brother was pretty big in that shot Grant but holy shit look at the size of Ian Harrison.
Yeah, they were all about 6 foot tall ... well, trevor was closer to 6'1".
Ian was 275lbs ... my brother was 235lbs and Trevor was 310lbs.... but was well over 400lbs when he passed away. RIP, Trevor.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=121257.0;attach=136477;image)
Monster oversized shirt on the right.
What kind of physique was your brother able to obtain without drugs? Suprised he was on anything before.
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That thread on musclemayhem was very interesting. It said that there was only one official BFT center, and only one certified BFT trainer. This guy Larry Maples claims to both have a BFT center, and that he is really the co-creator of it. What a lying piece of shit. If anyone wants to call him at his "Beyond Failure Training Center" it is 816 229-0500. This guy also claims he was 2nd in the world in the NPC in 1994 and was 5'9 285. I think someone might have a law suit on their hands.
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That thread on musclemayhem was very interesting. It said that there was only one official BFT center, and only one certified BFT trainer. This guy Larry Maples claims to both have a BFT center, and that he is really the co-creator of it. What a lying piece of shit. If anyone wants to call him at his "Beyond Failure Training Center" it is 816 229-0500. This guy also claims he was 2nd in the world in the NPC in 1994 and was 5'9 285. I think someone might have a law suit on their hands.
he woulda been a HW at that time and I can name pretty much all the top NPC HW's from that time period and he ain't one of em.....
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The replies to this will be interesting. Trevor Smith took my brother from this....
the only thing who took him from this to that are hormones,,the leaner you are when you start hormonizing yourself the bigger you will get muscle wize,,
its about time the population of getbig understand the way hormones work,,,,the leaner you are before you go on them,,,the bigger your muscles will get while on them,,,and the smaller you will become while off them,,
*it will be harder for you to grow as well if your bf% is higher but some people chose this route and end up at the same "neighborhood so to say" as the ones who started leaner.
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the only thing who took him from this to that are hormones,,the leaner you are when you start hormonizing yourself the bigger you will get muscle wize,,
its about time the population of getbig understand the way hormones work,,,,the leaner you are before you go on them,,,the bigger your muscles will get while on them,,,and the smaller you will become while off them,,
*it will be harder for you to grow as well if your bf% is higher but some people chose this route and end up at the same "neighborhood so to say" as the ones who started leaner.
EXACTLY.
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he woulda been a HW at that time and I can name pretty much all the top NPC HW's from that time period and he ain't one of em.....
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Of course he was not one of them. Every word out of this scum bags mouth is a lie. I want to see someone confront him om all of his lies. He should not be making money off of somone who is dead.
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Good post!
My brother was certainly not drug free ....but his budget limited him to pretty lose doses. He really did not do that much .... but his diet was strict and he and Ian and Trevor trained like animals possessed!
I'll PM you guys whatever info you need on what supplements my brother took. Pretty low doses ..... seriously. I was watching!
Grant, your brother looked freakin amazing!! Where the hell is he now?
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Good post!
My brother was certainly not drug free ....but his budget limited him to pretty lose doses. He really did not do that much .... but his diet was strict and he and Ian and Trevor trained like animals possessed!
I'll PM you guys whatever info you need on what supplements my brother took. Pretty low doses ..... seriously. I was watching!
When he comes off the juice, he goes right back to looking the way he did in those "before" pics, regardless of how he trains.
Not that he looked bad. In fact, he's a pretty good example of what someone with decent genetics can expect from weight training and dieting, naturally.
The latter pics are what that same type person can expect after introducing steroids into the equation.
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When he comes off the juice, he goes right back to looking the way he did in those "before" pics, regardless of how he trains.
Not that he looked bad. In fact, he's a pretty good example of what someone with decent genetics can expect from weight training and dieting, naturally.
The latter pics are what that same type person can expect after introducing steroids into the equation.
the sad thing is that majority of everyday people/lifters cant tell that even in the first 2 pictures the person is on aas,, anavar and winstrol are wonderful drugs,,,
by the way this is also the look of a guy that been through cycles and is in a"clean mode" but in this specific case i go for the anavar and winstrol tablet form as the main supp at the time those first pics were taken,,ofcourse clenbuterol is always there and considered a drug too.
NONE of the picture presenseted above is of a natural lifter,,first 2 pictures aim at fitness modeling level and involve drugs such as anavar,,winstrol and the such,,,those drugs are phenominal for muscle building and hardness while maintainin a natural look to the physiqe due to zero side effects. anavar at 100mg a day will also lean you out and will bring you down in bodyfat while leave ALL of your muscle mass on you,, even with strict diets!. as i said many times before anavar,,winstrol,,primobolan and masteron are the best drugs created for the natural lifter.
second set of picture aim at juniors or national level copetition and is a typical big guy that wont get no where,,
enough with selling illusion and back to reality my friends,,
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the sad thing is that majority of everyday people/lifters cant tell that even in the first 2 pictures the person is on aas,, anavar and winstrol are wonderful drugs,,,
by the way this is also the look of a guy that been through cycles and is in a"clean mode" but in this specific case i go for the anavar and winstrol tablet form as the main supp at the time those first pics were taken,,ofcourse clenbuterol is always there and considered a drug too.
NONE of the picture presenseted above is of a natural lifter,,first 2 pictures aim at fitness modeling level and involve drugs such as anavar,,winstrol and the such,,,those drugs are phenominal for muscle building and hardness while maintainin a natural look to the physiqe due to zero side effects. anavar at 100mg a day will also lean you out and will bring you down in bodyfat while leave ALL of your muscle mass on you,, even with strict diets!. as i said many times before anavar,,winstrol,,primobolan and masteron are the best drugs created for the natural lifter.
second set of picture aim at juniors or national level copetition and is a typical big guy that wont get no where,,
enough with selling illusion and back to reality my friends,,
well said!
P.S. What's up with th theory that leaner guy get more muscle when start a cycle?Please explain!
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He probably got more chicks when he looked like a fitness model
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the sad thing is that majority of everyday people/lifters cant tell that even in the first 2 pictures the person is on aas,, anavar and winstrol are wonderful drugs,,,
by the way this is also the look of a guy that been through cycles and is in a"clean mode" but in this specific case i go for the anavar and winstrol tablet form as the main supp at the time those first pics were taken,,ofcourse clenbuterol is always there and considered a drug too.
NONE of the picture presenseted above is of a natural lifter,,first 2 pictures aim at fitness modeling level and involve drugs such as anavar,,winstrol and the such,,,those drugs are phenominal for muscle building and hardness while maintainin a natural look to the physiqe due to zero side effects. anavar at 100mg a day will also lean you out and will bring you down in bodyfat while leave ALL of your muscle mass on you,, even with strict diets!. as i said many times before anavar,,winstrol,,primobolan and masteron are the best drugs created for the natural lifter.
second set of picture aim at juniors or national level copetition and is a typical big guy that wont get no where,,
enough with selling illusion and back to reality my friends,,
but how can you say that drugs like primobolan,winstrol etc are for the natural lifter.how can he be natural when he is using the above mentioned drugs??
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but how can you say that drugs like primobolan,winstrol etc are for the natural lifter.how can he be natural when he is using the adove mentioned drugs??
Because there is no such thing as a natural lifter these days... at least no lifter "worth looking at" like gh15 says.
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Because there is no such thing as a natural lifter these days... at least no lifter "worth looking at" like gh15 says.
Disagree. There are a good amount of natural guys who looks pretty sick. I never see any at my gym, but they are out there. More people would look good natural, if so many didn't use gear. Take someone like David Henry for example. If he didn't touch gear, he'd be shredded...at 147lbs. ;D
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Disagree. There are a good amount of natural guys who looks pretty sick. I never see any at my gym, but they are out there. More people would look good natural, if so many didn't use gear. Take someone like David Henry for example. If he didn't touch gear, he'd be shredded...at 147lbs. ;D
163lbs here:
(http://repetrope.com/assets/content/Media01/galleries/12024/fullsize/12024-henry-d-01.jpg)
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let me state here a simple fact to demonstrate how much hormones has to do with everything in this sport.
i,,*****,,can take OXANDROLONE (anavar) at 140-160mg a day and get ONLY BY USING THIS LITTLE TINY "FEMININE" TABLETS,, get from 280+ 12% to 280+ 6% in 8 weeks or less.
we always tell you how anavar is a pussy drug,,,but what we dont tell you is how much we use it because it is,, together with dianabol and nandrolone,, the best drug ever made on planet earth,,,drug that burns and sheds adipose fat and the most stuborn bicellular fat cells,,but we just dont want you to use it,,why? bodybuilding is selfish sport where every one is a wolf,,especially if competes. halo is very good too but for the more experienced ones and the ones who want to remain natural wont touch it because you become angry/agressive beast on it and natural guys are always nice smily and soothing ;) so they cant chose it,,,thats why there is the good ole anavar from back in the 60s,,
the best physiqes,, the "NATURAL ONES",, are built on oxandrolone and some test prop/suspension with some fina,,,THE BEST! (some winstrol added for final touch)
you gotta know your sport brothers,,,how do you think those female bodybuilders present male physiqes??? how do they burn all of this belly soft fat that every woman has?,,,,A N A V A R ,,,and major doses of it.
female bodybuilders id recomend atleast 50mg a day
male bodybuilders id recomend atleast 80-90mg a day
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i agree with gh15 there are very few if any true naturals if any that compete at the top in these so called natural shows...thats why i have more respect for the npc ifbb they don't admit drug use but don't deny it.
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Grant, your brother looked freakin amazing!! Where the hell is he now?
Thanks for the compliment. Justin became disillusioned with our "sport" .... as I did. It was too much work for too little gain.
He purposely dropped weight back to his "fitness" look and went back to racing motocross.
And yes, he gets much more female attention at 185lbs now (lean) than ever did at 235lbs. Go figure....
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Thanks for the compliment. Justin became disillusioned with our "sport" .... as I did. It was too much work for too little gain.
He purposely dropped weight back to his "fitness" look and went back to racing motocross.
And yes, he gets much more female attention at 185lbs now (lean) than ever did at 235lbs. Go figure....
hey grant you got any idea whats ian harrison upto these days?
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This is what he looked like @ 400 lbs. and only 6'1"
http://www.musclenet.com/trevorsmith.htm
Check out the bi's. Must be 23" :o
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i always like ian harrison. the arnold classic was the first pro bbing i went and what stuck out in mind besides nasser and flex was ian shaking his quad during prejudging. the crowd went crazy when he did that..he was freaky
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Ian use to post on another forum. He said he has his own brand of workout equipment over in th UK.
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Justin looks much hotter and more natural with his fitness look. Gotta give a gal something she can feel !
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This is what he looked like @ 400 lbs. and only 6'1"
http://www.musclenet.com/trevorsmith.htm
Check out the bi's. Must be 23" :o
Trevor must have been camera shy because there are very few pics of the guy. The one above is like one of the rare few. Maybe he had severe body dismorphia and didn't want to be seen until he was "perfect".