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Title: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 19, 2007, 06:08:59 PM
Do the arms look shady?

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Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: 1991rs on January 19, 2007, 06:10:15 PM
yes, its dark, therefore there is some shade on his arms. Looks HUGE
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: amoney86 on January 19, 2007, 06:20:28 PM
that same pic has been around for years so id say no. his arms were some of the best ever.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 19, 2007, 06:25:23 PM
1991rs...

I love your avatar.
The True Adonis looks like the mouse from that kids movie The Secret of Nimh.  :D

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Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: GHGut on January 19, 2007, 06:33:03 PM
64 pages of classic Arnold, without an ad between them. Gotta love it.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 19, 2007, 06:59:08 PM
64 pages of classic Arnold, without an ad between them. Gotta love it.

68... but who's counting.  ;D
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 19, 2007, 07:09:30 PM
Is that out now?
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 19, 2007, 07:11:29 PM
Is that out now?

MuscleMag states not until January 30.
But you know issues also come a few days before.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 19, 2007, 07:12:18 PM
MuscleMag states not until January 30.
But you know issues also come a few days before.

AWESOME I GONNA CHECK IT OUT!!! THANKS!
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on January 19, 2007, 07:58:40 PM
68... but who's counting.  ;D

Did you make it to page 68 before *finishing*?
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: tommywishbone on January 19, 2007, 09:57:34 PM
The pic is absolutely shopped. Sorry.

The sad thing is, the real pic is awesome.. no need for the nonsense.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 19, 2007, 10:29:36 PM
The pic is absolutely shopped. Sorry.

The sad thing is, the real pic is awesome.. no need for the nonsense.
post it.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Tombo on January 19, 2007, 10:53:46 PM
lol i dunno about that, theres another pic around with a similar pose, and it makes his arms look f**kin huge
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: deadlift on January 19, 2007, 11:36:41 PM
Nah, not shopped. Though I did think so at first. The reason it looks shady is cause the pic's flipped horizontally (I think). Here's a similar shot, the right way around and flipped:


Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Vince B on January 20, 2007, 01:42:22 AM
That famous photo was taken by Robert Nailon at Tony's Gym in Sydney in 1974. Someone took a flash photo at the same time that gave it that impressive lighting.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: kmhphoto on January 20, 2007, 02:37:51 AM
They "shopped" the eyes to have him looking into the camera.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Rami on January 20, 2007, 03:31:20 AM
They "shopped" the eyes to have him looking into the camera.

What a dumb move.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: kmhphoto on January 20, 2007, 03:40:39 AM
What a dumb move.

And they didn't do it very well.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 20, 2007, 03:55:00 AM
That famous photo was taken by Robert Nailon at Tony's Gym in Sydney in 1974. Someone took a flash photo at the same time that gave it that impressive lighting.

Cool. Thanks, Vince.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 20, 2007, 03:56:27 AM
They "shopped" the eyes to have him looking into the camera.

That's fuckin' lame. I like the natural look he has -- high as a kite.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: GoneAway on January 20, 2007, 04:12:20 AM
Yeah, shouldn't of done the eyes. Pure is the way to go.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Bluto on January 20, 2007, 04:39:26 AM
Looks to me like they edit the photos more and more, where we gonna end up with all this? If Playboy can fix their models so they doesn't even show a birthmark and looks like plastic dolls, then surely they can edit photos of bodybuilders and start editing midsections etc. maybe even bring up lagging bodyparts to have the bodybuilders improve on their symmetry  ::)

And surely they won't stop at the cover, they'll fix all pictures. We'll end up with photos of Ronnies "monster calves" 

Bluto disapproves.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 20, 2007, 05:17:49 AM
to bad this picture wasn't brought up in the arnold vs frank thread
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on January 20, 2007, 05:21:50 AM
I would say without a doubt that cover was altered. It is obviously different than the other versions that were posted here. I also think the current cover of flex with arnold looks funny too. His pecs look like Dolly partons tits and I know I have seen that photo before and it didn't look like that. Editing photos in Playboy is one thing but doing it to bodybuilders just seems fucked up. Hell, if that is what we are going to do we should just all photoshop some 24" arms onto ourselves and post pictures everywhere.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 20, 2007, 06:16:07 AM
I would say without a doubt that cover was altered. It is obviously different than the other versions that were posted here. I also think the current cover of flex with arnold looks funny too. His pecs look like Dolly partons tits and I know I have seen that photo before and it didn't look like that. Editing photos in Playboy is one thing but doing it to bodybuilders just seems fucked up. Hell, if that is what we are going to do we should just all photoshop some 24" arms onto ourselves and post pictures everywhere.

but.... we look at playboy for the models bodies (or the articles if your a parent) and people look at bbing mags for the pictures so it's the same thing really
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Bluto on January 20, 2007, 06:29:31 AM
but.... we look at playboy for the models bodies (or the articles if your a parent) and people look at bbing mags for the pictures so it's the same thing really

No it's not. And Playboy sucks >:(
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: bbinsider on January 20, 2007, 09:04:37 AM
If they took the time to shop the eyes then the pic is shopped somewhere else.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: delta9mda on January 20, 2007, 10:08:05 AM
They "shopped" the eyes to have him looking into the camera.
the master has spoken
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: beatmaster on January 20, 2007, 10:19:43 AM

it's not the same picture, they probably took a few picture at the same time (rapide shutter) , the one on the cover, he look at the camera, the other one, he look at the mirror....... if it's the same picture they had to tilt the head too and more!
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Jr. Yates on January 20, 2007, 10:25:03 AM
Thats gotta be the best pic of Arnold ever taken!
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Big N on January 20, 2007, 10:55:27 AM
Thats gotta be the best pic of Arnold ever taken!



Correction one of the best pix  ;)
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: scribbler on January 20, 2007, 12:31:22 PM
I would say without a doubt that cover was altered. It is obviously different than the other versions that were posted here. I also think the current cover of flex with arnold looks funny too. His pecs look like Dolly partons tits and I know I have seen that photo before and it didn't look like that. Editing photos in Playboy is one thing but doing it to bodybuilders just seems fucked up. Hell, if that is what we are going to do we should just all photoshop some 24" arms onto ourselves and post pictures everywhere.

The only photoshop done on the Flex cover was to colorize the background, otherwise that image is real and shown as is...a great Albert Busek shot


C
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 20, 2007, 01:54:52 PM
Albert Busek's Arnold photos kick-ass.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 20, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
This thread should be a sticky!
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: ribonucleic on January 20, 2007, 05:23:30 PM
Next you'll be suggesting that they Photoshopped Heather Locklear on the cover of Shape...

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/01/2heather_locklear.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 20, 2007, 05:33:48 PM
This thread should be a sticky!

Yeah... sticky this thread mod(s).
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: deadlift on January 21, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
Only one way to be sure... and here it is. I just enlarged and rotated the image to match the original copy I had, no other changes ("morphs") have been made. Looks like they filled out the chest and bloated the right arm a little (besides the face, obviously).

Why the hell they had to make these "improvements" is beyond me. It's not like the original isn't impressive enough. Retards.



Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: candidate2025 on January 21, 2007, 08:30:37 PM
damn...major props on putting that display together dude. that is fucking amazing use of modern technology right there.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 21, 2007, 08:34:35 PM
I don't think the muscle was enlarged. Looks like they just brightened it. I do think this photoshopping is getting rediculous though. Oh well, it's not like bodybuilding isn't fake anyway with the rediculous judging descisions and synthol.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: candidate2025 on January 21, 2007, 08:38:02 PM
they took a little bit off of his waist in the back too.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: tommywishbone on January 21, 2007, 09:06:07 PM
I hate to say I told you so, but... I told you so. And why did they do it? They're stupid, that's why.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: tommywishbone on January 21, 2007, 09:07:59 PM
The only photoshop done on the Flex cover was to colorize the background, otherwise that image is real and shown as is...a great Albert Busek shot
C

They even tricked a pro.  >:( The original pic is so cool, and now the cover is just smoke & mirrors.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: scribbler on January 21, 2007, 09:20:22 PM
They even tricked a pro.  >:( The original pic is so cool, and now the cover is just smoke & mirrors.

no they didn't...I was refering to the Flex cover out right now that someone mentioned in this thread as well...I don't comment on competitors covers one way or the othersw, it isn't professional.

I know what we do with our covers

C
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 22, 2007, 05:49:44 AM
Deadlift...

Awesome comparison. Thanks.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 22, 2007, 08:15:29 AM
DEADLIFT you need to spend more time on photoshop. If you look closely the MuscleMag cover is on a slight angle that is what gives the impression that the arm is bigger etc. Then it also looks like the mag was scanned. Given the thickness of the magazine it could also distord the image somewhat. Other then the eyes it is 100% the same image and not shopped unless the shoped the original in 197something.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Bronx on January 22, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
I can tell you flat out...the body was NOT photoshopped in the least, regardless of what the comparison says of two pics, neither of which are the actual original photograph.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: GoneAway on January 22, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
The both lower pecs looks shopped, as seen in the comparison.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Governor on January 22, 2007, 10:01:20 PM
I can tell you flat out...the body was NOT photoshopped in the least, regardless of what the comparison says of two pics, neither of which are the actual original photograph.


If neither are the orginal, how can either not be shopped?  ???

Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 22, 2007, 10:15:18 PM
Looks like the brightness was turned up, causing it to look fuller. I don't think it was shopped to increase muscle size.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: HalloweenMan on January 22, 2007, 10:44:35 PM
on the Zane Scale of Epic Photoshopped Picture this picture gets a 3 out of 10.  1 being an untouched picture and a 10 being any current picture of Frank Zane.  i give it 3 for the color change and the eyeball tomfoolery. 
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: deadlift on January 22, 2007, 11:22:35 PM
Perhaps this will make it clearer. I've brightened the original image -- no other changes (yes, it IS the original). It should be obvious that the size and SHAPE of the muscles has actually changed -- the bottom of the pecs have been dragged down and the right arm has been bloated and the biceps and triceps dragged down to look fuller and longer.

Anyway, draw your own conclusions. Seems clear to me.

Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 23, 2007, 04:38:23 AM
Looks the same to me with the exception of puffing out his chest a bit and adding just a lil' *umph* into his lower bicep, as well as the tricep, near the elbow.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 23, 2007, 04:59:45 AM
I don't see why they would feel the need to modify the pic. He looked great just the way he was.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: nycbull on January 23, 2007, 06:03:51 AM
I don't see why they would feel the need to modify the pic. He looked great just the way he was.

absolutely dude, this is an example of how out of control our extremist culture has become. I feel sorry for young people that are being unindated with this kind of imagery and have no clue it is all computer generated.

I think it is time everyone start writing to these editors and tell them to stop lying to us. Stop feeding us bullshit!
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: chainsaw on January 23, 2007, 06:23:35 AM
Perhaps this will make it clearer. I've brightened the original image -- no other changes (yes, it IS the original). It should be obvious that the size and SHAPE of the muscles has actually changed -- the bottom of the pecs have been dragged down and the right arm has been bloated and the biceps and triceps dragged down to look fuller and longer.

Anyway, draw your own conclusions. Seems clear to me.


Of course it was changed you freaks!  If they are going to change the eyes, they changed alot of other stuff.  Including his puffed out moon face and lips.  Sublte changes, but none the less, changes. 
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 23, 2007, 06:45:41 AM
This says a lot about our perception and views when even The Greatest Bodybuilder of the 20th Century: Arnold Schwarzenegger needs a lil' touch-up for a magazine cover.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Tapeworm on January 23, 2007, 07:27:36 AM
Says a lot about their willingness to bs us.  Maybe scribbler knew, maybe not.  This much is certain - he comes here as a salesman.

5 out of 10 Zanes.  Nice work deadlift.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: GoneAway on January 23, 2007, 07:32:17 AM
If only the kids today could find out about how cool the 70's were for bodybuilding. They'd understand the sly look in his eyes and appreciate the photography skills of the time. Hell, do the kids of today even know Arnold Schwarzenegger was a bodybuilder?

There's a zillion more pics they could have chosen of Arnold. Why they felt the need to choose one only to touch it up, albeit slightly, is amazing.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Bronx on January 23, 2007, 08:47:24 AM

If neither are the orginal, how can either not be shopped?  ???



No, no. I meant that a scan of a picture of a copy of the original pic and a scna of the original pic. Both can get distorted. I meant neither that was used here was the actual 8x10 or the negative.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Big N on January 23, 2007, 01:02:11 PM
I don't see why they would feel the need to modify the pic. He looked great just the way he was.

To have the "youth" wanna be just like him and push their bodies to the limit where they end up in the hospital? It's horrible how they try to "perfect" a human body in a pic that's already perfected in reality to its fullest potential but no its never good enough for the "media"  ::)
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 23, 2007, 01:38:33 PM
It's horrible how they try to "perfect" a human body in a pic that's already perfected in reality to its fullest potential but no its never good enough for the "media"  ::)

You're exactly right. It just floors me that of all the bodybuilders out there, even Arnold -- dubbed to have the most PERFECT body in the world -- would need a lil' touch-up.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 23, 2007, 02:08:08 PM
Perhaps this will make it clearer. I've brightened the original image -- no other changes (yes, it IS the original). It should be obvious that the size and SHAPE of the muscles has actually changed -- the bottom of the pecs have been dragged down and the right arm has been bloated and the biceps and triceps dragged down to look fuller and longer.

Anyway, draw your own conclusions. Seems clear to me.



I am telling you bro when they scanned the mag, because of its thickness, it distorted the pic a slight tiny bit. That is the reason why you cannot align the pics 100%.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Shockwave on January 23, 2007, 02:16:59 PM
I am telling you bro when they scanned the mag, because of its thickness, it distorted the pic a slight tiny bit. That is the reason why you cannot align the pics 100%.
How do you explain the eyes?
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 23, 2007, 02:18:48 PM
How do you explain the eyes?

I already touched on that subject if you bothered to read my posts in this thread you would know!  >:( rraaa
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Shockwave on January 23, 2007, 02:19:40 PM
I already touched on that subject if you bothered to read my posts in this thread you would know!  >:( rraaa

I did not.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: Pollux on January 23, 2007, 03:02:37 PM
Alexxx...

I think some people just like to skip over your posts.  :D
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: alexxx on January 23, 2007, 03:10:54 PM
Alexxx...

I think some people just like to skip over your posts.  :D

This makes no sense. They are the most interesting posts on here.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: GoneAway on January 23, 2007, 05:42:40 PM
They brightened and smoothed the picture out, but that hardly explains the extra size on his lower chest.
Title: Re: NEW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER COVER -- DOES IT LOOK SHADY???
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 23, 2007, 05:45:41 PM
If only the kids today could find out about how cool the 70's were for bodybuilding. They'd understand the sly look in his eyes and appreciate the photography skills of the time. Hell, do the kids of today even know Arnold Schwarzenegger was a bodybuilder?

There's a zillion more pics they could have chosen of Arnold. Why they felt the need to choose one only to touch it up, albeit slightly, is amazing.

Exactly. Good post. They shouldn't have altered the expression. He looks like a robot....or a terminator now.

I agree with alexxx though, I don't believe the body was enhanced. It's the scanner.