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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: JimmyThomson on January 20, 2007, 05:06:55 PM
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http://www.musclememory.com/articles/fairyTale.html
I have so much more amo I just hope Ilive to expose it all.........
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the text is great, very funny. the kike stuff too, French postcards. that was an interesting read.
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Yes... even everyone's hero, Arnold Schwarzenegger, posed for what many considered to be a "gay magazine" called Tomorrow's Man.
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Pooooooooooost it.
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
show it..we wont laugh
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Imagine having a decency group outlawing magazines. Yes, the good old days were rather pathetic re lots of things. I doubt those images were sordid or indecent but that is what some do-gooders believed in those days. It is clear that some bodybuilders had photos published in those magazines without their consent. Other bodybuilders needed the money so didn't shy away from posing in a G-string. Nowadays the posing trunks used in contests would have been considered obscene in those days!
The AAU Mr America contest had rules and if you appeared in Tomorrow's Man, etc., you risked not placing in any of their contests.
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It was a sign of the times. Isn't it bed time Jimmy?
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I had no idea Weider published so many different mags; Demi-Gods, Young Physique etc. Very gay.
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I had no idea Weider published so many different mags; Demi-Gods, Young Physique etc. Very gay.
very artistic and edgy for its time.
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http://www.musclememory.com/articles/fairyTale.html
I have so much more amo I just hope Ilive to expose it all.........
take a real hard look at the way flex is marketed ... even with peroxide and silicone titties on evry second page its gay as aids
bodybuilding is a queer fansport, no 2 ways about it :)
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very artistic and edgy for its time.
Very forward-thinking and liberal. Props to Weider!
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Perhaps someone could photoshop a picture of adam onto that Adonis magazine, lol.
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Very forward-thinking and liberal. Props to Weider!
ah yes! the Rococo splendor of physical culture
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The AAU Mr America contest had rules and if you appeared in Tomorrow's Man, etc., you risked not placing in any of their contests.
Hence Arnold never winning or competing in the Mr. America perhaps?
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It is strange what we used to pick up at the magazine stands in the old days. Some carried Tomorrow's Man and other magazines targetting gay men. The trouble was that some of the top guys were featured in those magazines and if a champion was on the cover we would have a look to see what was inside. I recall seeing Larry Scott in one of them. It didn't surprise me that Larry never enterred the AAU Mr America contest but won Weider's version of the same title that didn't have a sporting performance requirement nor an interview. It was widely believed by the mid 1960s that you wouldn't win the AAU title if you posed in those publications. Period. I guess Joe and Ben got the Californian lads to enter the IFBB shows because they were about bodybuilding and nothing more.
I doubt anyone made much money from publishing any of those 'gay' magazines. Today someone might even say they were sort of artistic magazines and not bodybuilding ones, even though they featured guys who sometimes were champion bodybuilders.
I was approached by a photographer who wanted to take 'modelling' photos. When I asked him if that included posing in G-strings he said yes and I never presented to do that stuff. I can imagine guys going out to California and perhaps needing the money and consenting to doing some of that work. Everyone in the game seemed to know who did that work and there was a negative stigma that stayed with you if you appeared in those magazines. We didn't assume that everyone who was featured in them was gay but posing for gays was never a practice that was condoned. To this day that still is true.
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Arnold was already Mr Universe when he arrived in California in Oct 1968. He wasn't a citizen then so wasn't entitled to enter that contest. Plus, he was already at a level way above that show.
Sergio created a stink when he insisted on enterring the Mr America one year. Most of the other competitors were upset because he was way too good for that category. So I think they gave Sergio a trophy with the title Mr America but other guys placed in the actual show where Sergio won the Mr Universe or whatever it was back then. From then on no Mr Universe could enter the Mr America contest.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger's VERY FIRST cover shot for Tomorrow's Man.
(http://vintagemusclemags.com/magCovers/tm/tm1506.jpg)
I have this issue, and there's no risque Arnold pictures. Many believe Arnold's FIRST American cover was the August 1967 Muscular Development, but in fact it's the above photo cover. Guess no one likes to acknowledge Arnold's FIRST American cover as being on Tomorrow's Man.
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
post it jimmy..and welcome back ;D
also please post more info on diane and the gatherings she organized for her friends...did they pay the bodybuilders`?
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Come on Jimmy lets see it!
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I heard about Arnold and Wag Bennett's wife Diane. I have no knowledge about any of those goings on. So I can't confirm any statements about what Arnold did in England.
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Boring.
What's so wrong with homosexual mags or activity? It's breaking the norm, sure, but BBing is breaking the norm! Jimmy Thomson, you're an old guy so I guess you're coming from the 'pure' and 'idealistic' values that every human being should be one way and not another, but that wasn't the case, even back then.
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http://www.musclememory.com/articles/fairyTale.html
I have so much more amo I just hope Ilive to expose it all.........
Weider is a bisexual paederast. In previous times, he'd give massages to the bodybuilders who visited him in his office, and would get them to private pose for him and other older bisexual gentlemen. For an unknown up-and-coming bodybuilder to get in the cover of a magazine, the "price" Weider charged was a blow-job to him and his paederastic friends. When it comes to winning a contest, the price was higher: to take it in the pooper from Joe. I once heard a story that David Drapper lost his anal virginity to Weider. :-\ Arnold also reportedly blowed some of Weider's friends when he first moved to America in 1968, but I can't confirm this. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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but I can't confirm this. :-X
Such is the motto of the guys telling these stories. Proof goes further than any hearsay.
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Bump for bestiality pics! ;D
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Arnold Schwarzenegger's VERY FIRST cover shot for Tomorrow's Man.
(http://vintagemusclemags.com/magCovers/tm/tm1506.jpg)
I have this issue, and there's no risque Arnold pictures. Many believe Arnold's FIRST American cover was the August 1967 Muscular Development, but in fact it's the above photo cover. Guess no one likes to acknowledge Arnold's FIRST American cover as being on Tomorrow's Man.
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"Worlds finest young (note the word young) physiques". Man that's trash, I don't like having this homo as my governor anymore.
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Hence Arnold never winning or competing in the Mr. America perhaps?
or perhaps because he was a pro before he arrived in America.
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Pooooooooooost it.
Dude, that is the gayist avatar in GetBig history.
The Beef
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Sergio created a stink when he insisted on enterring the Mr America one year. Most of the other competitors were upset because he was way too good for that category. So I think they gave Sergio a trophy with the title Mr America but other guys placed in the actual show where Sergio won the Mr Universe or whatever it was back then.
too bad there's not a place on the internet that would have such info (http://musclememory.com).
Sergio entered the 64, 65, and 66 AAU Mr America. He won the Most Muscular in 65 and 66. He came in 2nd overall in 66. The AAU Mr America was not a contest to determine the best physique, but the best representative of the American male. The US was not ready for a black Mr America at that time. Nor were they ready for one with a thick cuban accent. Sergio then jumped to the IFBB.
From then on no Mr Universe could enter the Mr America contest.
no, there was never such a rule. but entering a contest by an organization not recognized by the AAU made you a professional in the eyes of the AAU. and that would prevent you from entering the AAU Mr America. but that had nothing to do with Sergio
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Bump for bestiality pics! ;D
Yes bring on the goats in lingere ;D
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Imagine having a decency group outlawing magazines. Yes, the good old days were rather pathetic re lots of things. I doubt those images were sordid or indecent but that is what some do-gooders believed in those days. It is clear that some bodybuilders had photos published in those magazines without their consent. Other bodybuilders needed the money so didn't shy away from posing in a G-string. Nowadays the posing trunks used in contests would have been considered obscene in those days!
The AAU Mr America contest had rules and if you appeared in Tomorrow's Man, etc., you risked not placing in any of their contests.
First post I've ever read of yours that I agree with. Yup who gives a shit... Obsentiy, Pornography... Oh brother... yup, fucking do-gooders... Like when they went after Betty Page, stupid stupid and more stupid, glad we're out of that timeperiod.
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
Bullshit... Put up or shut up.
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
FUCK YEAH...POST THAT SHIT...FIRST IT WOULD EXPOSE THE HUGE BS THAT IS IFBB AND SECOND IT WOULD ADD ENOURMOUS JOURNALISTIC CREDIBILITY TO RON AVIDAN, GETBIG AS AN OPEN FREE FORUM, AND BB.COM AS A SPONSOR OF IT. I LOVE THIS PLACE.
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What a surprise to see Sevatase at the centre of a "gay" thread!
not really of course, its to be expected
ta ta
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Bullshit... Put up or shut up.
Yes, posting shit like this and not putting the pic up is worthless.
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What a surprise to see Sevatase at the centre of a "gay" thread!
not really of course, its to be expected
ta ta
your maa said u 're g a y ...butt you already knew it
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Gayer than reading this thread during the commercial breaks while watching "Queer Eye". ::)
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or perhaps because he was a pro before he arrived in America.
Was there even such a thing as "pro status" back in the day?
I mean, I can't imagine pro cards being handed out like they are today.
What show did he win that gave him the status of "pro".
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...and here are the gay mags they sold recently. ::)
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your maa said u 're g a y ...butt you already knew it
Can you post in English, what are you trying to say here?
ta ta
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Notice one of them was called Adonis. hahahaha
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BAYGBM.... you are an out of the closet type gay dude yes?
I have no trouble with gays in fact I like the ones I know but I have a problem when the Weiders use gay sex as a type of bribe to make normally straight dudes behave in a gay mannor in order to get on with the IFBB and that is not right. To think that Danny Paddila was not allowed to compete in the 1975 Mr Universe just because he refused to be buggered by the Weiders while wearing a Schoolboy uniform just beggars belief. Robbie Robbinson tried to intervene and was thanked by having Ken Waller (with a sore ass) beat him in the overall.
Bay couldn't be more out of the closet. Dude's right in the spotlight with his gayness.
Nice stories you provide about Weider but you have any proof?
Not that i don't believe you, but you should put some fundament to your theories or they will go down the history of gay accusions like peepee down the toilet in the morning.
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Was there even such a thing as "pro status" back in the day?
I mean, I can't imagine pro cards being handed out like they are today.
What show did he win that gave him the status of "pro".
no, there was no such thing as "pro cards", but there certainly was a distinction between amateur and pro, even more so than today.
in the eyes of the AAU, if you entered a non-sanctioned (by the AAU) event, you lost your amateur status and could no longer enter an AAU event (in any AAU sport).
if you received any price money, you lost your amateur status.
if you made money from your muscles, you lost your amateur status. this included being paid for photos, working at a gym, doing personal training, endorsing a product.
by those standards, pretty much everyone today is a pro.
but regarding Arnold, the NABBA Mr Universe has an amateur and a pro class. Arnold won the amateur Mr Universe in 1967, and the Pro Mr Universe in 1968. So he was certainly considered a pro by the time he arrived in the US.
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I have no trouble with gays in fact I like the ones I know but I have a problem when the Weiders use gay sex as a type of bribe to make normally straight dudes behave in a gay mannor in order to get on with the IFBB and that is not right.
if true (and there are many rumors) it is sexual harassment. that it is male-male is irrelevant. it would be just as wrong for someone to require a figure competitor to put out to place well in pro figure contests.
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no, there was no such thing as "pro cards", but there certainly was a distinction between amateur and pro, even more so than today.
in the eyes of the AAU, if you entered a non-sanctioned (by the AAU) event, you lost your amateur status and could no longer enter an AAU event (in any AAU sport).
if you received any price money, you lost your amateur status.
if you made money from your muscles, you lost your amateur status. this included being paid for photos, working at a gym, doing personal training, endorsing a product.
by those standards, pretty much everyone today is a pro.
but regarding Arnold, the NABBA Mr Universe has an amateur and a pro class. Arnold won the amateur Mr Universe in 1967, and the Pro Mr Universe in 1968. So he was certainly considered a pro by the time he arrived in the US.
Gotcha... thanks.
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To think that Danny Paddila was not allowed to compete in the 1975 Mr Universe just because he refused to be buggered by the Weiders while wearing a Schoolboy uniform just beggars belief.
The funniest thing thats ever been written on getbig ;D I don't know if you're for real or not, 'Jimmy Thompson', but you sure are entertaining!
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"Male Figure"...
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The funniest thing thats ever been written on getbig ;D I don't know if you're for real or not, 'Jimmy Thompson', but you sure are entertaining!
Actually that story has been up before.
Stories about the Weiders sexually molesting bodybuilders come up very regularly.
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But until now there's only been strories. If Jimmy Thomson has photographic proof he could blow the lid off it. Otherwise, it's just more second hand info - albeit very entertaining info. I believe there is at the very least a kernal of truth. I mean come on...some old guys judging men in oil hiking up thongs to expose ripped glutes.
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BAYGBM.... you are an out of the closet type gay dude yes?
I have no trouble with gays in fact I like the ones I know but I have a problem when the Weiders use gay sex as a type of bribe to make normally straight dudes behave in a gay mannor in order to get on with the IFBB and that is not right. To think that Danny Paddila was not allowed to compete in the 1975 Mr Universe just because he refused to be buggered by the Weiders while wearing a Schoolboy uniform just beggars belief. Robbie Robbinson tried to intervene and was thanked by having Ken Waller (with a sore ass) beat him in the overall.
No person, gay or straight, is a fan of sexual coercion or harrassment. On the other hand, no one could make me have sex with someone I didn’t want to have sex with no matter what the incentive.
As far as those many rumors from the 1970s, remember, we’re talking about bodybuilding trophies—not a billion dollars in cash. If anyone back in those days traded sexual favors to get what he wanted, he did it because he wanted to—not because anyone “made” him do it. Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to improve my lot in life by sleeping with someone I would otherwise reject and I’ve said “no thanks” every time.
Sex while wearing a Schoolboy uniform? Kinky! ;D
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No person, gay or straight is a fan of sexual coercion or harrassment. On the other hand, no one could make me have sex with someone I didn’t want to have sex with no matter what the incentive.
As far as those many rumors from the 1970s, remember, we’re talking about a bodybuilding trophies—not a billion dollars in cash. If anyone back in those days traded sexual favors to get what he wanted, he did it because he wanted to—not because anyone “made” him do it. Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to improve my lot in life by sleeping with someone I would otherwise reject and I’ve said “no thanks” every time.
Sex while wearing a Schoolboy uniform? Kinky! ;D
well put...they weren't forced.
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Who gives a shit.
Put aside all the pro gay/anti gay banter.
It's entertaining.
I'm sure there was pressure though.
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Weider is a bisexual paederast. In previous times, he'd give massages to the bodybuilders who visited him in his office, and would get them to private pose for him and other older bisexual gentlemen. For an unknown up-and-coming bodybuilder to get in the cover of a magazine, the "price" Weider charged was a blow-job to him and his paederastic friends. When it comes to winning a contest, the price was higher: to take it in the pooper from Joe. I once heard a story that David Drapper lost his anal virginity to Weider. :-\ Arnold also reportedly blowed some of Weider's friends when he first moved to America in 1968, but I can't confirm this. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Guys, this is the post where I expose the truth behid the Weider Organization. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Guys, this is the post where I expose the truth behid the Weider Organization. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
any proof?
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No person, gay or straight, is a fan of sexual coercion or harrassment. On the other hand, no one could make me have sex with someone I didn’t want to have sex with no matter what the incentive.
As far as those many rumors from the 1970s, remember, we’re talking about bodybuilding trophies—not a billion dollars in cash. If anyone back in those days traded sexual favors to get what he wanted, he did it because he wanted to—not because anyone “made” him do it. Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to improve my lot in life by sleeping with someone I would otherwise reject and I’ve said “no thanks” every time.
Sex while wearing a Schoolboy uniform? Kinky! ;D
You're one strange individual :-\
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hearsay aint proof in America
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hearsay aint proof in America
Big DB ,Is Michael Jackson Jesus? :D
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weider liked em short it seems lol...i wonder if franco had to act as a replacement for danny. i wonder if arnold videotaped it will uncle weider sodomized franco?
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weider liked em short it seems lol...i wonder if franco had to act as a replacement for danny. i wonder if arnold videotaped it will uncle weider sodomized franco?
Yes all until Franco developed gyno and ol Joe and Ben (over) couldnt ass rape him any more cos they considered him to girly with his newly developed man breasts. ???
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Yes all until Franco developed gyno and ol Joe and Ben (over) couldnt ass rape him any more cos they considered him to girly with his newly developed man breasts. ???
i think they wanted to milk him...male lactation
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
Sorry - but if true you would of showed the pic before elsewere. Seems you are leading us down a garden path with youre "I have a pic and will post if enough" posts....you will never post a pic as you have none...
In fact you are gayer than an old man lying about gay schmoes...
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I have a picture of Ben Weider, 2 Dolbermine dogs and Mike Quinn entangledd in a homo/bestial orgy. The gloves are off...... time to expose. If enough of you want it then I will post it......
Time to shut the doubters up.....
LMFAO! PROVE IT!
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As i said in your other homophobic thread, no body forced any of theses grown men to pose for these magazines. They are huge testosterone filled adult men and you want everyone to believed they are being controled by a bunch of fairies. What does that say about straight men? sounds like the biggest self ownage in bodybuilding history. Your logic is very flawed, my friend.
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As i said in your other homophobic thread, no body forced any of theses grown men to pose for these magazines.
regarding the magazines in the 1950s, many young bodybuilders were shocked to find their picture on the covers of these blue magazines. the photos were taken by a professional photographer, but once you sign the model release, the photographer can sell them to anyone he chooses.
this was a big controversy in the 1950s, and they threatened to ban any athlete that ended up on such mags (this is probably why Larry Scott left the AAU and joined the IFBB). but it was simply that the 1950s became more conservative. look at all the early Strength and Health from the 1930s and 1940s. more often than not, the photos on the cover were nudes with the posing suit drawn in.
Harry Pascal, who was the executive editor of Strength and Health for many years, never missed a chance to bash gays (among others). He was the one screaming the loudest on purging gays from bodybuilding. Yet his staff photographer was Lon Hanagan, who is now considered one of the best of the gay erotic photographers of the 1900s (google Lon of New York). Lon was the photographer for most of the photographs with the posing suit drawn in on the negative that were used in Strength and Health.
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yea, I still don't think these guys could be that stupid to pose nude for a photographer and sign a release especially for a photograper like Lon who was obviously gay. Gays weren't as out back then, but people also weren't stupid. I think these guys enjoyed the attention from gay men and didn't mind knowing they would be idolized. I think you are right that it was more the conservative times and the involvement with religion in politics in the 50's that created the backlash against the physique magazines.
I can understand the industry's desire to distance themselves from the gay mags but the irony is that most of the best photogs of men back then were gay and contributed some of the best pictures to the sport and have help preserve and promote it for the ages. Men like Grimek,Reeves, Scott and all the 70's guys would not be as revered and idolized today if not for those early photographs that put more into their work than just taking generic anatomy shots.