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Title: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 11:25:20 AM
certainly works better than the NO boosters...
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Blockhead on January 24, 2007, 11:27:03 AM

 I agree.


 I know diabetics who use it and swear to GOD that they have less need and see less frequency of insulin injections now.

 There are better things to be said about it than not.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 24, 2007, 11:28:53 AM
certainly works better than the NO boosters...

I have read their are un-wanted side effects, forget what they are though....I know its cheap as hell...
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: 250Ben250 on January 24, 2007, 11:37:37 AM
vanadium can be toxic at moderate doses and can cause kidney problems at high doses.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 12:07:45 PM
I have read their are un-wanted side effects, forget what they are though....I know its cheap as hell...

if ya take around 7000mcgs or more you'll get vanadyl poisoning..i've had it...

your tongue turns black..and poop turns black and you get the kinda gas that makes ya ashamed that it came out of you..

i stick to around 5000mcgs/day


now the results..i cant say it helps me grow faster..but it makes training a helluva lot more fun..

i can get steroid like pumps with vanadyl even when off cycle....plus veins galore!

with juice..well..have ya ever gotton the kinda pump that it actually hurts to raise your arms?


i will say this though..for some people ..i've seen that it does nothing at all..absolutely nothing..i cant explain that...


a little warning..i CANT..absolutely cant mix it with creatine...or i'm in the shitter all damn day..you might be one of these..

sure safer than metaformin..or phenformin <sp?>
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Blockhead on January 24, 2007, 12:14:09 PM

 I like it. One of the very few 'exotic' supplements I will fcuk with.

 Pride Nutrition still sells it in the form of their product called 'CGone'.

 Use 'Block25' as a discount code if whoever reads this wants to try some.

 www.pridenutrition.com
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 12:18:39 PM
I like it. One of the very few 'exotic' supplements I will fcuk with.

 Pride Nutrition still sells it in the form of their product called 'CGone'.

 Use 'Block25' as a discount code if whoever reads this wants to try some.

 www.pridenutrition.com

crap..i just took a trip to the vitamin shopee and got some...lol.



the only other exotic suppliment that has worked for me (and notin a muscle building way) is tribestan..

i'venever swayed from THAT particular brand though...



remember "retibol" from atletika!  "what russian lifters when not on the juice" lol..




n oh..dont take vanadyl on an empty stomach..unles ya like feeling a little dizzy..
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Blockhead on January 24, 2007, 12:20:56 PM

 I know. I only use it with breakfast and POST workout.

 Once in a while I'll use some before workout with lots of carbs. Feels like being on 'EQ'. Not to sound like Bill Phillips.

 Is tribestan by 'SoPharma'?
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 12:32:39 PM
I know. I only use it with breakfast and POST workout.

 Once in a while I'll use some before workout with lots of carbs. Feels like being on 'EQ'. Not to sound like Bill Phillips.

 Is tribestan by 'SoPharma'?


yeah i forgot to be carefull when to use it..i drove to the vitamin shop (25 min drive..since the GNCs dont carry it) and popped 2 in the car (5000 mcgs each)..and i ws dizzy by the time i got home...i immediately chugged a coke..

from now on i'll use it as a post workout nutrient ramjet..



yeah tribestan is from sopharma..it fucking works (nausea and stomach problems nonwithstanding)..but ya gotta give it time..like 2 weeks..creeps up on ya and then ....surprise..its like you took a few HCG shots! :D


http://www.bestpricenutrition.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2703&srccd=69&GCID=S17534x001&KEYWORD=tribestan&gclid=CMKc9f3x-YkCFRE9VAodgjOtUw


hey..wanna know what ya think about what i say in my other thread... "message of exercie ma..wait
here

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=122149.0
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: dr.chimps on January 24, 2007, 12:55:20 PM
I have read their are un-wanted side effects, forget what they are though....I know its cheap as hell...
Perhaps.......memory loss?  :D
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 24, 2007, 12:58:40 PM

yeah i forgot to be carefull when to use it..i drove to the vitamin shop (25 min drive..since the GNCs dont carry it) and popped 2 in the car (5000 mcgs each)..and i ws dizzy by the time i got home...i immediately chugged a coke..

from now on i'll use it as a post workout nutrient ramjet..



yeah tribestan is from sopharma..it fucking works (nausea and stomach problems nonwithstanding)..but ya gotta give it time..like 2 weeks..creeps up on ya and then ....surprise..its like you took a few HCG shots! :D


http://www.bestpricenutrition.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2703&srccd=69&GCID=S17534x001&KEYWORD=tribestan&gclid=CMKc9f3x-YkCFRE9VAodgjOtUw


hey..wanna know what ya think about what i say in my other thread... "message of exercie ma..wait
here

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=122149.0

Tribestan gives me a bionic hard on
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: youandme on January 24, 2007, 01:01:46 PM
when I'm cutting up I take 40 mgs a day, along with some ALA. It can be toxic at high doses, so I don't think you can go over 80mgs or so says Bill Phillips. The ultimate nutrition brand has the higher mg qty tabs.

Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 01:04:14 PM
when I'm cutting up I take 40 mgs a day, along with some ALA. It can be toxic at high doses, so I don't think you can go over 80mgs or so says Bill Phillips. The ultimate nutrition brand has the higher mg qty tabs.



umm thought ya took it in mcgs..not mgs ???


the most i took ws 10 mgs..thats 10,000 mcgs..
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: youandme on January 24, 2007, 01:13:43 PM
umm thought ya took it in mcgs..not mgs ???


the most i took ws 10 mgs..thats 10,000 mcgs..

I take 40,000 mcgs.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 01:15:42 PM
I take 40,000 mcgs.

what do you weigh..?

dats a lot mang!
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: youandme on January 24, 2007, 01:22:48 PM
body weight fluctuates, usually sit at 230. I only do the high doses of vanadyl for a few weeks, imo it really helps me thin out the skin.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 01:23:31 PM
i'm a fat 175..lol..soo well hense i take a lot less..
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 24, 2007, 01:28:50 PM
MCT Oil by TwinLab (Orange flavour) was good.... 8)
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 01:33:03 PM
MCT Oil by TwinLab (Orange flavour) was good.... 8)

that pesky john parallo is responsible for quit a few really bad "almost accidents' in class with that crap  >:(
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: dylan_dent on January 24, 2007, 01:37:16 PM
"you get the kinda gas that makes ya ashamed that it came out of you.."

LMFAO. That made me cough rice into my nose!

D
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 24, 2007, 02:42:14 PM
umm thought ya took it in mcgs..not mgs ???


the most i took ws 10 mgs..thats 10,000 mcgs..
I suspect you calculated wrong. I recall Dan Duchaine said 80mg/day was the sweet spot for good effects. What mg strength are your tabs?

More than a decade since I used it. It did seem to give a pump.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: Necrosis on January 24, 2007, 03:41:33 PM
any sides to tribestan, or is it just tribulus extract. ive never really tried the shit nor vanadyl. anyone find the tribestan good.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 05:49:31 PM
I suspect you calculated wrong. I recall Dan Duchaine said 80mg/day was the sweet spot for good effects. What mg strength are your tabs?

More than a decade since I used it. It did seem to give a pump.

i remember dan saying 80mgs / day and i remember e-mailing him and asking him about that....highest i think i went ws 30mg/day

i got the 5 mg tabs..10mgs/day works just fine for me..in about 2 weeks i start getting these godawefull pumps..and vascularity..

you gotta take it carbs though...

i usually took it first thing in the morning ..with high glycemic carbs...when insulin sensitivity is highest..the thought being that together with my insulin..i'll ran jext more glycogen that way..

and right after i trained with again..high glycemic carbs..

side note..yanno whats wierd..if you have aol if you look up dans profile..i thin its still there..its all XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


its Dduchaine@aol.com
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: hangclean on January 24, 2007, 06:02:31 PM
Vanadyl, as well as NO boosters..........are worthless.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 06:15:21 PM
Vanadyl, as well as NO boosters..........are worthless.

works for me...

sux to have your insulin resistant receptors mang  :-\
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: hangclean on January 24, 2007, 06:19:36 PM
works for me...

sux to have your insulin resistant receptors mang  :-\
My insulin receptors are fine.  Just because a product increases your pump does not make it an effective strength or muscle building agent.  I get just as good a pump if I take a little extra caffeine anyway.  Ephedrine and caffeine are the only pre workout supps I take anymore and beleive me I've tried all of them.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: SteelePegasus on January 24, 2007, 06:26:23 PM
My insulin receptors are fine.  Just because a product increases your pump does not make it an effective strength or muscle building agent.  I get just as good a pump if I take a little extra caffeine anyway.  Ephedrine and caffeine are the only pre workout supps I take anymore and beleive me I've tried all of them.

if you were a real man you would do a couple lines of coke
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 06:34:02 PM
My insulin receptors are fine.  Just because a product increases your pump does not make it an effective strength or muscle building agent. 

i never said..if you read my first few posts that it increases strength..

i said it makes training a lot more fun!


Quote
I get just as good a pump if I take a little extra caffeine anyway.


you have no idea what a pump is man..not being insulting man..really..

pump and being psyched r 2 TOTALLy different things..  :-\
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 06:34:58 PM
if you were a real man you would do a couple lines of coke

i've said it before and i'll say it again..a friend used to do that (rip)...

when i used to do coke..it always wanted to make me go find ass and fuck...not train  :-\
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: hangclean on January 24, 2007, 06:44:46 PM
i never said..if you read my first few posts that it increases strength..

i said it makes training a lot more fun!

 

you have no idea what a pump is man..not being insulting man..really..

pump and being psyched r 2 TOTALLy different things..  :-\
Your original question was "why dont more people use Vanadyl Sulfate?"  The answer is.....Its not effective for strength or muscle gains.
Title: Re: Why dont more people use vanadyl sulphate?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 24, 2007, 06:46:03 PM
Your original question was "why dont more people use Vanadyl Sulfate?"  The answer is.....Its not effective for strength or muscle gains.

not really..that ws the subject header..to grab peoples attention..

fine believe what you will man  :-\