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Title: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 25, 2007, 06:04:14 PM
 No ground game whatsoever :-\
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: torquemada on January 25, 2007, 06:04:58 PM
WTF?  He's getting handled by O'Brien...
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 25, 2007, 06:08:19 PM
He is getting OWNED! Coming from Pride many people thoughe would be one of the top guys in the UFC .....well, apparently not :-\
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 25, 2007, 06:08:35 PM
Is a can!  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Eric15210 on January 25, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
I'm shocked here
I saw Heath fight few times in Pride and never saw him fight that bad
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 25, 2007, 07:43:40 PM
I'm shocked here
I saw Heath fight few times in Pride and never saw him fight that bad

He's been pretty much ranked in top 10 HW's his entire career. It's a sad fall from the top.  :'(
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 25, 2007, 08:16:53 PM
He's been pretty much ranked in top 10 HW's his entire career. It's a sad fall from the top.  :'(
I thought all PRIDE fighters were the greatest fighters ever and could beat any UFC fighter?  ::)
Damn...YOUR boy looked like shit.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 25, 2007, 08:38:20 PM
I thought all PRIDE fighters were the greatest fighters ever and could beat any UFC fighter?  ::)
Damn...YOUR boy looked like shit.

Are you fucking retarded? He's been out of Pride for almost 2 years now and fighting in K1-Heroes. He's old, fighters lose it. Thanks for showing your true UFC nuthugging roots though, dipshit.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: RUDE BUOY on January 26, 2007, 12:43:28 AM
I thought all PRIDE fighters were the greatest fighters ever and could beat any UFC fighter?  ::)
Damn...YOUR boy looked like shit.
dam people are quick to judge
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: RancherRanger on January 26, 2007, 05:41:37 AM
That was a terrible fight for Heath.  He'd better come back strong or he'll end up like Frank Mir.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: bigbalddaddy on January 26, 2007, 06:16:50 AM
That was a terrible fight for Heath.  He'd better come back strong or he'll end up like Frank Mir.

Funny you mention Frank Mir casue they had the same BJJ coach...Ricardo Pirez!
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 26, 2007, 06:48:20 AM
everyone can have a bad day at the office, that certainly wasnt the best of him

Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 26, 2007, 07:09:55 AM
I can see why Pride dropped him.  He's lost his heart.  Pride dropped him because Heath fell apart as a fighter after losing to Nogiuera and then getting DESTROYED by Fedor.  Something about those two fights changed something in Heath.  I didn't follow his K-1 career.  Zuffa, Inc. must be mad as hell considering the money they laid out in advertising for Heath.  Wow.
  Unfortunately, I expect that a similar thing will happen with Rampage.  Pride let him go after his two Chutebox losses.  He had no heart either.

On another note, how lame has the UFC undercard become???  Its like watching amateur hour which would be OK except I have to keep listening to Joe Rogan calling every fighter world class...when he said, "Hermes Franca Vs. Spencer Fisher are two of the best fighters in the world..."  I almost barfed.  Who and who???

As far as I'm concerned, the Heath Herring fight represents the second "debacle" for UFC recently.  The first being Rich Franklin's POUNDING.

Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 26, 2007, 07:13:26 AM
I can see why Pride dropped him.  He's lost his heart.  Pride dropped him because Heath fell apart as a fighter after losing to Nogiuera and then getting DESTROYED by Fedor.  Something about those two fights changed something in Heath.  I didn't follow his K-1 career.  Zuffa, Inc. must be mad as hell considering the money they laid out in advertising for Heath.  Wow.
  Unfortunately, I expect that a similar thing will happen with Rampage.  Pride let him go after his two Chutebox losses.  He had no heart either.

On another note, how lame has the UFC undercard become???  Its like watching amateur hour which would be OK except I have to keep listening to Joe Rogan calling every fighter world class...when he said, "Hermes Franca Vs. Spencer Fisher are two of the best fighters in the world..."  I almost barfed.  Who and who???

As far as I'm concerned, the Heath Herring fight represents the second "debacle" for UFC recently.  The first being Rich Franklin's POUNDING.



hahahaha, the UFC hype machine at work. I do expect Rampage to tear it up, though. He's built for the octagon.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 26, 2007, 07:25:40 AM
I can see why Pride dropped him.  He's lost his heart.  Pride dropped him because Heath fell apart as a fighter after losing to Nogiuera and then getting DESTROYED by Fedor.  Something about those two fights changed something in Heath.  I didn't follow his K-1 career.  Zuffa, Inc. must be mad as hell considering the money they laid out in advertising for Heath.  Wow.
  Unfortunately, I expect that a similar thing will happen with Rampage.  Pride let him go after his two Chutebox losses.  He had no heart either.

On another note, how lame has the UFC undercard become???  Its like watching amateur hour which would be OK except I have to keep listening to Joe Rogan calling every fighter world class...when he said, "Hermes Franca Vs. Spencer Fisher are two of the best fighters in the world..."  I almost barfed.  Who and who???

As far as I'm concerned, the Heath Herring fight represents the second "debacle" for UFC recently.  The first being Rich Franklin's POUNDING.



yeah...i agree with you on one thing- Joe Rogan is such an idiot! But Rampage - He still has it - just wait .....!
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 26, 2007, 07:43:20 AM
The best thing Hermes Franca has ever shown in a fight was the way he dropped Caol Uno on his head. Hes certainly nowhere near a world class fighter IMO
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 26, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
Are you fucking retarded? He's been out of Pride for almost 2 years now and fighting in K1-Heroes. He's old, fighters lose it. Thanks for showing your true UFC nuthugging roots though, dipshit.
Thanks for exposing you as a PRIDE polesmoking FAG once again.  :D

You dumb girl, watcha' gonna say when Chuck avenges his loss by knocking Ramage da' fuck out? "He's past his prime, or he isn't the same since he found Jesus?"  ::)
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 26, 2007, 08:44:04 AM
Thanks for exposing you as a PRIDE polesmoking FAG once again.  :D

You dumb pussy, watcha' gonna say when Chuck avenges his loss by knocking Ramage da' f**k out? "He's past his prime, or he isn't the same since he found Jesus?"  ::)

Look through this board, I've been saying Chuck would beat Rampage in a rematch since before you found this site. Moron. I am Pride fan though. And you're a TUF retard considering you didn't know that Herring hasn't fought in Pride since '04 and spent most of last year doing nothing in K1 and healing from injuries.  ::)
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Big Worm on January 26, 2007, 10:45:17 AM
He looked horrible last night !!! He has heavy hands .....But he's slow as well as sloppy!!!!   It's MMA !??  What did he think ???? His opponent was going to stand in front of him ?

 He did ZERO to defend himself against takedowns... 

 Honestly .... As many times as he got rear mounted ......I don't know how he didn't get choked out ?????  It was really bad .....

 If I never see him fight again....I couldn't care less!!!!
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: dootle on January 26, 2007, 11:35:00 AM
O'Brien didn't do much of anything to finish heath..all he did was take him down and then after a few,he allows heath to escape..SHAME ON THEM BOTH!!!

i always liked heath,and he showed so much heart in many fights(like against nog)..i'm giving him one more chance..everyone has fights that they are ashamed of,but one more from heath and i'm done..
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 26, 2007, 10:55:21 PM
Look through this board, I've been saying Chuck would beat Rampage in a rematch since before you found this site. Moron. I am Pride fan though. And you're a TUF retard considering you didn't know that Herring hasn't fought in Pride since '04 and spent most of last year doing nothing in K1 and healing from injuries.  ::)
He is a PRIDE boy and you know it. That's where his whole rep was established, you dumb c*nt.
I have been watching mma since '95, so how am I a "TUF newb"?  ::)
Boy Fedor's really putting himself out there by fighting a blown up middleweight next, isn't he? But all PRIDE fighters fight great matchups every time, don't they?  ::)
hahhaha You are a PRIDE fudgepacking FAG.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 26, 2007, 11:08:44 PM
He is a PRIDE boy and you know it. That's where his whole rep was established, you dumb c*nt.
I have been watching mma since '95, so how am I a "TUF newb"?  ::)
Boy Fedor's really putting himself out there by fighting a blown up middleweight next, isn't he? But all PRIDE fighters fight great matchups every time, don't they?  ::)
hahhaha You are a PRIDE fudgepacking FAG.


....a blown up middleweight???....no offence,but you might be the dumbest person I'v ever known ::)
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 27, 2007, 06:33:50 AM
I can see why Pride dropped him.  He's lost his heart.  Pride dropped him because Heath fell apart as a fighter after losing to Nogiuera and then getting DESTROYED by Fedor.  Something about those two fights changed something in Heath. 


My guess is that the harsh reality set in that he wasn't a top tier fighter who could compete against the best.

The age excuse doesn't cut it. He's only 28.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 27, 2007, 08:57:58 AM

....a blown up middleweight???....no offence,but you might be the dumbest person I'v ever known ::)
Ahh...G. You're known as getbig's resident genius, no? Wait...who the fuck are you?  ::)
What weight class has Matt Lindland fought most of his fights in?
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Fury on January 27, 2007, 09:27:25 AM
He is a PRIDE boy and you know it. That's where his whole rep was established, you dumb c*nt.
I have been watching mma since '95, so how am I a "TUF newb"?  ::)
Boy Fedor's really putting himself out there by fighting a blown up middleweight next, isn't he? But all PRIDE fighters fight great matchups every time, don't they?  ::)
hahhaha You are a PRIDE fudgepacking FAG.

Ok pal. You want to play this Pride vs UFC thing? Anderson Silva is a Pride fighter who systematically dismantled the best UFC fighter in his division in less than 3 minutes in his second fight and there's no one that can even contend with the guy.

Herring hasn't fought in Pride since 2004, that's almost 3 years. He's been nursing injuries, fighting in K1 and getting old. You don't stay at the top forever. By the way, you haven't been watching MMA a day over 6 months. You didn't even know the guy's been fighting in K1 for 2 years.  ::)

CroCop is going to do it and Rampage will be right at the top, too.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 27, 2007, 11:30:28 AM
Ok pal. You want to play this Pride vs UFC thing? Anderson Silva is a Pride fighter who systematically dismantled the best UFC fighter in his division in less than 3 minutes in his second fight and there's no one that can even contend with the guy.

Herring hasn't fought in Pride since 2004, that's almost 3 years. He's been nursing injuries, fighting in K1 and getting old. You don't stay at the top forever. By the way, you haven't been watching MMA a day over 6 months. You didn't even know the guy's been fighting in K1 for 2 years.  ::)

CroCop is going to do it and Rampage will be right at the top, too.

In all fairness, everything said in this post is 100% spot on. Dont forget Silva also KO'd Chris Leben in his debut - something that some people thought was verging on impossible and certainly hadn't been done before. In K-1 Herring wasnt exactly an active fighter because of his injuries, but he did beat Big Daddy by KO before he came to UFC. He had maybe 3 fights in just over 2 years so it is fair to say theres no chance he was ring ready or even near his best.

Crocop doesnt even have a legitimate challenger in UFC, im pretty confident that if Josh Barnett came back to UFC he would walk through the HW division. And weve all seen what happened when Mirko faced him on more than 1 occasion. Rampage will get a few impressive wins, but i dont think hes going to have a good night against Chuck. I think he and Tito match up very well though, that would be a great fight IMO
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 27, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
Ahh...G. You're known as getbig's resident genius, no? Wait...who the f**k are you?  ::)
What weight class has Matt Lindland fought most of his fights in?

That blown up middleweight destroyed Jeremy Horn who once choked your hero out. 
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 27, 2007, 11:37:01 AM
it is my personal opinion that if hes going to fight around 210 then he IS a blown up MW fighter. He specialised in that division so to say hes a natural HW is absurd
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 27, 2007, 12:29:13 PM
it is my personal opinion that if hes going to fight around 210 then he IS a blown up MW fighter. He specialised in that division so to say hes a natural HW is absurd

 he is a naturall lightheavy, but that doesnt matter - the most important thing is that he steps up the best of the best and Matt will fight at his natural weight - around 200lbs.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 27, 2007, 01:29:49 PM
theres a reason its called offseason. Hes not exactly in peak physical condition when hes 20lbs or so over his normal weight. Plus if hes fighting at 210 then he has to find an extra 10lbs from somewhere and as i previously stated, thats not going to be muscle at this stage of his life
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 27, 2007, 01:44:05 PM
theres a reason its called offseason. Hes not exactly in peak physical condition when hes 20lbs or so over his normal weight. Plus if hes fighting at 210 then he has to find an extra 10lbs from somewhere and as i previously stated, thats not going to be muscle at this stage of his life


who care how much ML weighs??....He will have the weight and size disadvantage nomatter what....and YES he  can still be in peak condition at 200lbs.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: G on January 27, 2007, 01:48:33 PM
theres a reason its called offseason. Hes not exactly in peak physical condition when hes 20lbs or so over his normal weight. Plus if hes fighting at 210 then he has to find an extra 10lbs from somewhere and as i previously stated, thats not going to be muscle at this stage of his life

Since you are from UK - Is Bisping really one of the top lightheavies  there? Waht about Thomson - not very impressive in Pride!
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Scimowser on January 27, 2007, 02:26:00 PM
I would say hes definitely a top ranked UK fighter, ive seen some of his fights from when he started and i believe he really IS that good. His future is very bright, with 4-5 fights under his belt i think he could give the division a wake up call. Hes not gonna give Chuck a fight any time soon but hes just as good as, if not better than Forrest. I really believe that, his subs are shit hot and he has a swagger of confidence in his ability that shows hes not arrogant but he knows what he can do
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Bluto on January 27, 2007, 05:21:11 PM
bisping looked good so far. heath was a disappointment. not that the other guy was much good either. none of them has a future in the ufc. heaths excuses after losing was bullshit too.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 27, 2007, 09:31:28 PM
That blown up middleweight destroyed Jeremy Horn who once choked your hero out. 
Who's my "hero"?  :-\
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 27, 2007, 09:35:22 PM
By the way, you haven't been watching MMA a day over 6 months.
If you say it I guess that makes it true, right? Whatever you say, Sparky. :-* I've been watching mma since before you knew it existed.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 27, 2007, 10:41:13 PM
He looked horrible last night !!! He has heavy hands .....But he's slow as well as sloppy!!!!   It's MMA !??  What did he think ???? His opponent was going to stand in front of him ?

 He did ZERO to defend himself against takedowns... 



His guard is absolutely atrocious. Zero legwork and his hips are completely dead.  It's a common problem for big guys as they don't get put on their backs too often and therefore don't work the guard.  Ironically, he's good at rolling back to guard from the turtle position. He did that often in the Fedor fight, but once he gets to guard,  he immediately gets passed.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: canadian_husker on January 27, 2007, 10:52:41 PM
there are way too many of those fights in the UFC. was herring even hurt? good on O'Brien for working his strategy and doing what he needed to win, but it was pretty pathetic. how many times did he have herring's back or have him fully mounted and he wasn't even close to finishing him.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 29, 2007, 11:46:06 AM
Who's my "hero"?  :-\

Don't play dumb with us, you've watched MMA for five years!
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: Benny B on January 29, 2007, 12:44:46 PM
Don't play dumb with us, you've watched MMA for five years!
'95 bro. ;)
The first mma fight I saw was Royce Grace choking out Ron VanClief. After that I was hooked. I followed the UFC from the early days.
Title: Re: HEATH HERRING
Post by: HavoX on January 29, 2007, 06:43:50 PM
i heard bisping is an ex con? any truth?