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back when MD was natural.
STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development
"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.
Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?
Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.
It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.
The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!
I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!
Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.
After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.
Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.
When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")
When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.
Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.
Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.
All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.
I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"
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Great story. I love this part:
When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")
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back when MD was natural.
STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development
"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.
Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?
Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.
It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.
The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!
I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!
Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.
After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.
Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.
When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")
When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.
Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.
Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.
All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.
I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"
This is MY favorite part..
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Blechman, MD, Bullshit Radio. All a joke............
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This is MY favorite part..
Exactly I remember when Blechman tried to turn MD into an ' all natural ' magazine that didn't last long , look at it know the biggest joke in bodybuilding
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Exactly I remember when Blechman tried to turn MD into an ' all natural ' magazine that didn't last long , look at it know the biggest joke in bodybuilding
Dunno, I think ND and his absurd logic give MD a good run for biggest joke in BB. He & obedient boyfriend pubes are the only two nudniks who don't already know it. ;)
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back when MD was natural.
STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development
"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.
Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?
Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.
It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.
The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!
I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!
Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.
After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.
Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.
When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")
When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.
Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.
Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.
All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.
I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"
Steve Reeves is the man best bodybuilder who ever lived !
best quote
Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.
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Dunno, I think ND and his absurd logic here gives MD a good run for biggest joke actually. ;) He & pubes are the only two nudnicks who don't already know it.
Stick to the topic , pumpy.
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Stick to the topic , pumpy.
Try following your own suggestion first, ahole.
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Try following your own suggestion first, ahole.
Yawn
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Too bad that Reeves' idea of a drug-free bodybuilding world didn't make Blechman enough money to succeed.
I will give Blechman that much..at least he TRIED to put forth a positive front for bodybuilding, hoping that the general public (and their wallets) would follow suit.
It didn't.
Right now, bodybuilding on a competitive level (not even PRO, just to compete!) requires drugs. That requires breaking the law and messing with your health. If you're ok with that, then there's no problem. I value my health and my freedom, so competitive bodybuilding in the NPC is not an option.
I really wish that natural bodybuilding took off, but the facts are that it just doesn't seem to sell. Some drug-free organizations are making progress, but even they are mired in the "is he or isn't he?" regarding cheating.
Bodybuilding and drugs are inseparable today. Get over it and move on or take up another activity.
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Blechman, MD, Bullshit Radio. All a joke............
That's true. That's actually the bad part about what Steve said.
Well, he could not have known what MD will become.
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Bodybuilding and drugs are inseparable today. Get over it and move on or take up another activity.
I don't agree with this.
There should be stricet all year testing and lifetime bans on bodybuilding, then it would change slowly in the next few years.
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great pics of reeves in this thread
where is gh15?
hey nasser?
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This is MY favorite part..
BLECHMAN TRIED!!!!!!!!!
And you fucking bloated pigs did NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOTHING!
YOU ARE TO BLAME!
I think Steve Blechman is about our best hope....one day.
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BLECHMAN TRIED!!!!!!!!!
And you fucking bloated pigs did NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOTHING!
YOU ARE TO BLAME!
I think Steve Blechman is about our best hope....one day.
lol why are you trying to suck up to eichman?
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great pics of reeves in this thread
where is gh15?
hey nasser?
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reeves was fucking amazing..he leg calf proportions in one of those pics is perfect
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Right now, bodybuilding on a competitive level (not even PRO, just to compete!) requires drugs. That requires breaking the law and messing with your health. If you're ok with that, then there's no problem.....
Bodybuilding and drugs are inseparable today. Get over it and move on or take up another activity.
WORD!!!
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I knew and worked with Steve personally and it is my "good guess" that he did not write that article (above) himself.
But I do know for a fact that he did support what was stated 100% as we discussed the same topic while traveling in a limo one afternoon.
Back then we were promoting natural contests and Steve attended as our invited guest and made that event a huge success.
I will state for a fact that in my experience the general public will not support natural bodybuilding contests to the extent that they will make a profit and although I personally knocked on doors to reclaim a trophy after the winner's drug test came back, I still firmly believe that drug tests don't catch them all because most guys know how to beat the system and retain that "natural title".
Thanks for posting that article, DK. I've never seen it before.
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I knew and worked with Steve personally and it is my "good guess" that he did not write that article (above) himself.
But I do know for a fact that he did support what was stated 100% as we discussed the same topic while traveling in a limo one afternoon.
Back then we were promoting natural contests and Steve attended as our invited guest and made that event a huge success.
I will state for a fact that in my experience the general public will not support natural bodybuilding contests to the extent that they will make a profit and although I personally knocked on doors to reclaim a trophy after the winner's drug test came back, I still firmly believe that drug tests don't catch them all because most guys know how to beat the system and retain that "natural title".
Yes, it's a sad story.
I wonder what goes on in somebody's head if they compete roided up in a natural contest.
monster insecurity issues i would say.
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i'm confused here?
was that a way to make publicity for his column?
he had a good physique! also saw his website, lot of stuff to sale hmmmmmmmm.....
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i'm confused here?
was that a way to make publicity for his column?
he had a good physique! also saw his website, lot of stuff to sale hmmmmmmmm.....
No, not at all. I just found it and thought it was interesting what was written. It's several years old.
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well, nice find i'll say
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back when MD was natural.
STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development
"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.
Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?
Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.
It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.
The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!
I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!
Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.
After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.
Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.
When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")
When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.
Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.
Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.
All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.
I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"
Awesome article!
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I knew and worked with Steve personally and it is my "good guess" that he did not write that article (above) himself.
But I do know for a fact that he did support what was stated 100% as we discussed the same topic while traveling in a limo one afternoon.
Back then we were promoting natural contests and Steve attended as our invited guest and made that event a huge success.
I will state for a fact that in my experience the general public will not support natural bodybuilding contests to the extent that they will make a profit and although I personally knocked on doors to reclaim a trophy after the winner's drug test came back, I still firmly believe that drug tests don't catch them all because most guys know how to beat the system and retain that "natural title".
Thanks for posting that article, DK. I've never seen it before.
It's a shame, really.
It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........
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It's a shame, really.
It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........
Yup. Absolutely ridiculous. These guys should be ashamed.
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Yup. Absolutely ridiculous. These guys should be ashamed.
That's just it, if they had a conscience or ethics, an ounce of honor, pride, they wouldn't do such a thing.
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Dunno, I think ND and his absurd logic give MD a good run for biggest joke in BB. He & obedient boyfriend pubes are the only two nudniks who don't already know it. ;)
absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.
::)
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Yes, it's a sad story.
I wonder what goes on in somebody's head if they compete roided up in a natural contest.
monster insecurity issues i would say.
Just ask Matt T that very question.
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It's a shame, really.
It takes a real pos to enter natural shows while using.........
Eric Shannon.
When he couldn't get his pro card he switch to trying to doing Natty contests while "on", being noticably the biggest dude in the line up.
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absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.
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Fantastic post !!
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Eric Shannon.
When he couldn't get his pro card he switch to trying to doing Natty contests while "on", being noticably the biggest dude in the line up.
Haha yeah, whatever happened to that dude?! Totally disappeared...
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This is MY favorite part..
Ironic isn't it. Whatever sells magazines is what counts.
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absurd logic like being a moderator in the training forum while not even stepping foot in a gym and instead using a bowflex in the basement.
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Who could this be? The man who claimed Arnold's muscles were "fake"? Who said Tiger Woods was "over rated"? Who said the CFL was better than the NFL? Who said Doug Flutie was better then Montana, Elway and Marino? Yes its him.
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Who could this be? The man who claimed Arnold's muscles were "fake"? Who said Tiger Woods was "over rated"? Who said the CFL was better than the NFL? Who said Doug Flutie was better then Montana, Elway and Marino? Yes its him.
LMFAO pumpster owns himself with every word he types
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This is MY favorite part..
Shut up, you drug abusing junkie. How much sauce you took to win that masters contests the other day? I think it's funny that guys like you criticize and make fun of the physiques of getbig.com posters. Wtf?! Most of us don't have a hotline to our personal endocrinologist and pharmacist, and we can't afford to eat 8 times a day, train for 50 minutes and then sleep the rest of the day. So get down from your high-horse and realize that there are getbig.com posters who have better genetics than you do, and would take your ass out at a bodybuilding contest if they did nothing other than train, eat, sleep and take more trenbolone in a week than a thouroughbred racing horse could handle in a whole year. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Shut up, you drug abusing junkie. How much sauce you took to win that masters contests the other day? I think it's funny that guys like you criticize and make fun of the physiques of getbig.com posters. Wtf?! Most of us don't have a hotline to our personal endocrinologist and pharmacist, and we can't afford to eat 8 times a day, train for 50 minutes and then sleep the rest of the day. So get down from your high-horse and realize that there are getbig.com posters who have better genetics than you do, and would take your ass out at a bodybuilding contest if they did nothing other than train, eat, sleep and take more trenbolone in a week than a thouroughbred racing horse could handle in a whole year. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
meltdown :o
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Haha yeah, whatever happened to that dude?! Totally disappeared...
Well he married some black chick named JoAnna Billings, who looks like a porno chick who real name is JoAnna. I'm talking exactly a like, I think they are one in the same. I remembered when Muscle Tech used to hype him up, with Erik Fromm giving commentary, knowing that Erik Fromm was the better bodybuilder. I guess Muscletech realize that they were backing the wrong horse...and dropped Eric Shannon like Paris Hilton drops names.
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Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
Tell it to someone who cares. Oprah, maybe.
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Thinking that there's money to be made on natural bodybuilding show's don't understand business.
There IS money to be made promoting drug-free shows which showcase WOMEN, namely the WNSO and FAME. That money comes from the competitors, mainly, and through ticketsales that are usually made up from the competitors families and fans who love bodybuilding.
The women get exposure, industry contacts, and endorsements if they're lucky. But the men in those shows are a smaller commodity, mainly because they don't compete for the same reasons the women do. The women use it as a stepping stone to a higher level, perhaps acting. Just look at who's on the cover of a recent issue of Stuff magazine...Victoria Pratt!..remember her? She used to be a regular "glute spectacular" girl in MMag International, and now she's an actress who lands a cover on a very popular mainstream magazine. You could say the same for Trish Stratus.
But most male bb'ers do the natural shows to prove something...for the same reason many juicer pro's do it. And when those natty's realize that they don't have the genetics to win a natty show, they just might take a little juice to give them an edge. And so on and so on!
The thing is, the juicer pro's look unbelieveable and the majority of nattys don't. Unbelievable in that their pics can sell magazines.
The general public has been shown a physique that is unattainable to the majority, but that's what sells.
One of the ONLY ways that natural bodybuilding can rise in popularity is to, sadly, offer bigger cash prizes. Why do I say sadly? Because it's the MONEY that makes people cheat. If it was just about winning, what sane person would risk their freedom and health to win a simple trophy?...
Take a look at Arnolds era. They were all on drugs, but at least it wasn't illegal back then. And you couldn't win a ton of money either. Why did they do it? There wasn't the cash there is today in the pro ranks. The influx of money raised the stakes, and the drugs followed suit.
The reason why the natural shows don't make money is because of the lack of mainstream sponsors. The IFBB gets away with it because they have magazines and the majority of bodybuilding related sponsors...but it's all peanuts compared to sponsors like Nike and Gatorade, believe that. Mainstream companies won't sponsor natural shows because of the drug issue, simple. You can't get past the steroid issue, now or ever. Unless cheap drug testing can be found, then it's pointless.
And the sad truth is that the people at the natural shows, those in attendance, are far more likely to actually buy the related products!
So you're stuck in a never-ending cycle...you can't compete without the drugs, but the drugs drive out the sponsors, but the sponsors bring in the prize money, but the prize money goes to those who take the drugs!
If you could only legalize steroids, then at least the IFBB could promote THIS message: Yes, drugs are used, however, if all you have is a steroid-abused body then you're not going to win. Unless you have the genetics, you're not going to win. Then they could actually begin to promote a look that the general public would ACTUALLY LIKE, like Arnold and Paris and Haney. A body image that has marketablility in Hollywood, and to the masses. Instead of what you have now, which is the extreme in development at all costs.
Right now, the 'sport' is so mired in lies it's mindboggling.
Again, unless you can rationalize in your mind that breaking the law and endangering your health is a small price to pay for a moment of glory and the possibility of stardom (which hasn't been duplicated since Arnold), the bodybuilding will disappoint you. The idea of training hard, eating properly and WINNING doesn't happen in the NPC without DRUGS in the equation. That's the cold hard truth. People with a sense of values and ethics can't justify the cost with the reward. And that's where the 'sport' dies. It's an activity that makes a small amount of people some money, and the ones who win use drugs to do it. Am I leaving anything out?
Instead of trying to legalize steroids, a task that's probably impossible in today's world, the focus should be on drug tests that are 99.9 percent accurate. Then, if the fools can find a way to cheat past THAT then more power to them! It comes down to dollars and cents. Find a way to make it MORE expensive to cheat than to NOT cheat.
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Instead of trying to legalize steroids, a task that's probably impossible in today's world, the focus should be on drug tests that are 99.9 percent accurate. Then, if the fools can find a way to cheat past THAT then more power to them! It comes down to dollars and cents. Find a way to make it MORE expensive to cheat than to NOT cheat.
Good point.
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Intelligently stated, Bic. I may not agree on every point but "Thanks" for the good read.