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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bluto on January 27, 2007, 12:16:33 PM
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Speak on this
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As natural as a 100yr old mans erection.
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there was a thread on mayhem about this, and theres one on the natural board here.
i think he is personally, but then again i dont know him personally, he might be injecting 1 gram a week on the sly.
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As natural as a 100yr old mans erection.
Enough said.
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as natural as pop tarts.
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this is a thing I've thought about over the last few years. I started the thread on the natural board. I think he is and I'll tell you why. First off he works for AST and has guys who have doctorats in nutrition and exercise physialogy-sp-working with him. They monitor pretty much everything he does and direct him if they see something they don't like. skip and Jeff Willet used to have journals on the aST site and they were great cause Jeff would be getting ready for a show and say stuff like "we decided this movement wasn't really optimal so we switched it with this on" or after observing his condition they would make little changes to his diet.
I just think they have a team of guys working with them who are very, very skilled in what they do and if you put anyone with a decent amount of potential in the same situation they'd succeed just like these guys are.
Think about it: wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows what he's doing telling you what to eat and when to eat it and another guy observing your training all the time and helping you fine tune it?
I just think they're in the optimal situation for what they do.
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yes i beleive hes natural. If you gave skip the same drugs as a top IFBB PRO then you all would see......The man trains harder then anyone, hes on ronnie and branch's intensity level. balls to the wall.
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this is a thing I've thought about over the last few years. I started the thread on the natural board. I think he is and I'll tell you why. First off he works for AST and has guys who have doctorats in nutrition and exercise physialogy-sp-working with him. They monitor pretty much everything he does and direct him if they see something they don't like. skip and Jeff Willet used to have journals on the aST site and they were great cause Jeff would be getting ready for a show and say stuff like "we decided this movement wasn't really optimal so we switched it with this on" or after observing his condition they would make little changes to his diet.
I just think they have a team of guys working with them who are very, very skilled in what they do and if you put anyone with a decent amount of potential in the same situation they'd succeed just like these guys are.
Think about it: wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows what he's doing telling you what to eat and when to eat it and another guy observing your training all the time and helping you fine tune it?
I just think they're in the optimal situation for what they do.
Dumbest post ever. So many delusions, so little time.
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this is a thing I've thought about over the last few years. I started the thread on the natural board. I think he is and I'll tell you why. First off he works for AST and has guys who have doctorats in nutrition and exercise physialogy-sp-working with him. They monitor pretty much everything he does and direct him if they see something they don't like. skip and Jeff Willet used to have journals on the aST site and they were great cause Jeff would be getting ready for a show and say stuff like "we decided this movement wasn't really optimal so we switched it with this on" or after observing his condition they would make little changes to his diet.
I just think they have a team of guys working with them who are very, very skilled in what they do and if you put anyone with a decent amount of potential in the same situation they'd succeed just like these guys are.
Think about it: wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows what he's doing telling you what to eat and when to eat it and another guy observing your training all the time and helping you fine tune it?
I just think they're in the optimal situation for what they do.
yeah, i'm sure his company would tell the public if he used gear. also i am sure he would put it in his online journal without thinking. yes yes. quality post. i will now poke eyes out. thank you.
Mr Getbig II! (http://www.getanabolics.com/contests-i-10.html)
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This question has been debated her many times before.
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Maybe he's got a prescription for the 3 gr. of Test per week.
Than he could call himself natural.
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he's as natural as Easy Cheese in a can.
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he's as natural as Easy Cheese in a can.
Isnt that the shit shadow uses on his curries ?
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Isnt that the shit shadow uses on his curries ?
shadow actually PM'd me and asked me if he would still be considered a virgin if he had sex with a corpse.
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shadow actually PM'd me and asked me if he would still be considered a virgin if he had sex with a corpse.
that corpse would have a horrible time.
also, boy corpse or girl corpse?
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Is Skip La Cour really a natural?
::)
Is Kamali the next Mr. O?
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that corpse would have a horrible time.
also, boy corpse or girl corpse?
goat corpse.
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that corpse would have a horrible time.
also, boy corpse or girl corpse?
If it's the Shadow we're talking about, regardless or gender the corpse was unquestionably underage.
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When i see shadow post i always think of Tim Curry's ugly mug in rocky horror picture show. This kid is more strung out on crack than JaeJonna's mom and more delusional than Alex23 eating a fat free poptart
(http://www.uta.fi/~cstivi/rocky/images/curryadd.jpg)
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this is a thing I've thought about over the last few years. I started the thread on the natural board. I think he is and I'll tell you why. First off he works for AST and has guys who have doctorats in nutrition and exercise physialogy-sp-working with him. They monitor pretty much everything he does and direct him if they see something they don't like. skip and Jeff Willet used to have journals on the aST site and they were great cause Jeff would be getting ready for a show and say stuff like "we decided this movement wasn't really optimal so we switched it with this on" or after observing his condition they would make little changes to his diet.
I just think they have a team of guys working with them who are very, very skilled in what they do and if you put anyone with a decent amount of potential in the same situation they'd succeed just like these guys are.
Think about it: wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows what he's doing telling you what to eat and when to eat it and another guy observing your training all the time and helping you fine tune it?
I just think they're in the optimal situation for what they do.
soooo delusional it's scary
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soooo delusional it's scary
Have to agree.
As much as i like natural al's other posts, but this was crap.
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Yeah after this thread and the "what's the youngest girl you've fucked" thread, today just ain't pretty for GB
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as natural as pop tarts.
Brown Sugar Cinnamon with frosting, or Strawberry w/no frosting?
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Brown Sugar Cinnamon with frosting, or Strawberry w/no frosting?
strawberry has more chemicals in it than Ronnie Coleman. ;D ;D
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hahahaah, he's a natural bullshitter. I've seen this debated sooooo many times. Whats funny is the people who defend him the most are the naturals who think they can achieve what he has. hahahahaha, monster delusions.
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strawberry has more chemicals in it than Ronnie Coleman. ;D ;D
What?! Blasphemy! The Strawberry Pop Tarts, grow on a giant Pop Tart tree and they are all natural. You take back what you said! >:(
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sure why not :-\
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must be the wheatgrass........
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What?! Blasphemy! The Strawberry Pop Tarts, grow on a giant Pop Tart tree and they are all natural. You take back what you said! >:(
Oh yes, that tree is fertilized with chemical waste every day... ;D ;D
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when i talked to him on aim, he said he was.
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it's strange that some people think that "using steroids" means using 1 gram a week or more.
someone using 200 mg/week for 10 weeks a year will still have an advantage over someone who is truly natural.
I find it unlikely that someone who is bigger, harder, and more ripped than the top bodybuilders of the 70s, who we all know were using lots of steroids, did it drug free. It is even more unlikely if they are well past their athletic prime. In the pre steroid era, 35 was considered past one's prime. Skip is 44.
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when i talked to him on aim, he said he was.
Yeah, and Ronnie and Gustavo Badell also say they are natural.
Sure he won't admit it, he is the natural guru.
it's strange that some people think that "using steroids" means using 1 gram a week or more.
someone using 200 mg/week for 10 weeks a year will still have an advantage over someone who is truly natural.
I find it unlikely that someone who is bigger, harder, and more ripped than the top bodybuilders of the 70s, who we all know were using lots of steroids, did it drug free. It is even more unlikely if they are well past their athletic prime. In the pre steroid era, 35 was considered past one's prime. Skip is 44.
good post.
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Speak on this
Do i think he's natural or not? Well, I dont know him personally, nor do I have any inside information on wether he is or not. So, all I have to go off is the way his physique looks, the fact that he claims he is, the fact that most of you guys say he isnt, etc. Its 50/50, so my guess is as good as yours. This is not to say, however, that I do not believe him when he says that he is natural. But if he is NOT natural, I guess it doesnt really matter to me for the following reasons:
Here is what I do know. I know that, as a natural bodybuilder, his principles on training and dieting have helped me. I have learned a lot from his books, DVD, website, articles, and Q&A's on AST's site. Natural or not, I have learned a lot from him.
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One reason I dont believe the majority of people on here saying he is not natural is because it seems to me that many of you have very little faith in what can be achieved naturally. In fact, my pics have been up here before and some of you guys actually said I wasnt natural. Its a nice compliment, of course, but if some of you guys think I'm not natural (which, I know for a fact I am), then no way in hell you'll think Skip is natural.
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Dumbest post ever. So many delusions, so little time.
ok "tredders" ::) ::) ::) ::)
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it's strange that some people think that "using steroids" means using 1 gram a week or more.
someone using 200 mg/week for 10 weeks a year will still have an advantage over someone who is truly natural.
I find it unlikely that someone who is bigger, harder, and more ripped than the top bodybuilders of the 70s, who we all know were using lots of steroids, did it drug free. It is even more unlikely if they are well past their athletic prime. In the pre steroid era, 35 was considered past one's prime. Skip is 44.
good point, good post!
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Dumbest post ever. So many delusions, so little time.
I agree.
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it's strange that some people think that "using steroids" means using 1 gram a week or more.
i've said it before..
under 1 gram /week is the new natural...
skip is NOT natural...
soo if he is THAT big naturally he's skipping out on being MR O for moral reasons??
right...
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he's not, if he is, he's a genetic freak............
on his website:
Skip La Cour has been training for more than 14 years and has been competing in bodybuilding contests for over 13 years. During that time span, La Cour has competed in 29 bodybuilding show around the world. At 5’ 11", La Cour’s competition weight ranges from 213 to 230 well-conditioned pounds.
man it took him one year (or even 2 or 3, with diet and training?) to start winning contest..... all natural, yeah ::)........ sure.
prohormone was baned like what? 2 years ago........ was it allowed, what about creatine? nolvedex, 6oxo, tribulus etc.............
what's really natural?
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There are no such things as genetic freaks. At least not in the terms that most people refer to.
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As natural as a 100yr old mans erection.
hahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
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skip is obviously a gifted bber, but the cold hard fact is that you just can't tell who does and who doesn't.
think about it. the man has put himself in a position (pedastal some might say) of being a natural bber. if he so much as made a vague admission to 2 primobolan tabs a day for 1 day he would be publically slaughtered and all his accomplishments would be written off as 'all drugs'. not to mention all his endorsements and livelihood would go down the drain (add to that a suit for breach of contract) and he would just be another bber dreaming of competing against the true freaks like ronnie.
look what happened to bill phillip's boy, danny hester. on top of the world (and every mm mag cover) one minute and gone without a trace the next.
besides all this, i'm always suspicious of self righteous people that preach their virtues. maybe because every human being i can think of in the history of man kind has proven to be a false prophet.
as shakespeare said, "he who protest the loudest..." ;)
;D
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besides all this, i'm always suspicious of self righteous people that preach their virtues. maybe because every human being i can think of in the history of man kind has proven to be a false prophet.
as shakespeare said, "he who protest the loudest..." ;)
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The last thing Skip is, is self-righteous from what I've read. He actually discourages that in his articles to natural bodybuilders.
Stating you're natural in a chemically-infested sport and being self-righteous are two different things.
Personally, I have no idea whether he's juiced or not. I gotta take him at his word until proven otherwise.
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The last thing Skip is, is self-righteous from what I've read. He actually discourages that in his articles to natural bodybuilders.
Stating you're natural in a chemically-infested sport and being self-righteous are two different things.
Personally, I have no idea whether he's juiced or not. I gotta take him at his word until proven otherwise.
you missed my point.
think about it this way;
why would someone who is successful in their endeavour NEED to prove anything?
"I gotta take him at his word until proven otherwise."
ok...does that mean you'kk take me for my word too :D because i'd like to sell you some prime real estate at half the price.
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There are no such things as genetic freaks. At least not in the terms that most people refer to.
Exactly.
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you missed my point.
think about it this way;
why would someone who is successful in their endeavour NEED to prove anything?
"I gotta take him at his word until proven otherwise."
ok...does that mean you'kk take me for my word too :D because i'd like to sell you some prime real estate at half the price.
Nothing you wrote was misunderstood by me.
When did Skip request that he needs to prove he is natural?
I said I'd take Skip's word for it...not yours. ;) He'd have a lot to lose if someone came forward and exposed him as a liar, with proof. After all, Skip is a public figure who's won drug tested competitions. Who the fuck are you exactly?
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I don't believe he's natural.
He called himself the King of The Naturals, or a similiar title, in an IM article. I'd call that pretty sanctimonious, in my opinion.
When you have that much size coupled with glute/ham/tricep striations, crosscuts, etc, maybe you DO need to prove it.
Get Skip to an IOC-approved testing site the week of his next contest, or don't give us the "business." No in-house lie-detectors or blood tests.
I've known guys who have lied about their useage in front of their own "salesperson" so there's little that suprises me...
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Okay Bluto,
You know I'm always willing to blaze on someone, but dude, really ...Do you need to ask that question??? Look at him...Granted he's a great fighter but come on,. I can probably tell you what he's using, after being around so many bodybuilders and UFC fighters, I know. But I'm just a girl and their trainer...
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No one except Skip can prove it either way, so threads like this are pointless.
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I don't believe he's natural.
He called himself the King of The Naturals, or a similiar title, in an IM article. I'd call that pretty sanctimonious, in my opinion.
When you have that much size coupled with glute/ham/tricep striations, crosscuts, etc, maybe you DO need to prove it.
Get Skip to an IOC-approved testing site the week of his next contest, or don't give us the "business." No in-house lie-detectors or blood tests.
I've known guys who have lied about their useage in front of their own "salesperson" so there's little that suprises me...
Heywood, I see what your saying about the IOC site the week of show, but even that would never prove anything. The gh isn't detectable and the suspended test could be back to a 4-1 or 6-1 "passable" ratio within a week.
Most natural bodybuilders at that level probably are not natural...I use probably for the sole fact that only they truely know. Of course anyone that knows anything will not believe guys at that level of natural bodybuilding are natural.
Remember that hormones have obvious side effects. Acromegaly is a well known and obvious sign of gh abuse. The mandibal elongates and the user or person effected gets a distinct underbite...take a look at pictures of guys you suspect during their contest years and if they look like they are pushing their lower jaw outward and there is a obvious underbite then figure it out. Hahah, I'm being vauge but this is a ridiculously funny topic and subject...
Are these guys natural??? Man, were some people on this board born yesterday?
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Heywood, I see what your saying about the IOC site the week of show, but even that would never prove anything. The gh isn't detectable and the suspended test could be back to a 4-1 or 6-1 "passable" ratio within a week.
A true IOC/WADA test would be hard to pass if one had done any steroids in the recent past. They can detect synthetic test (isotope test) nowadays so the ratio is not all that has to be considered. They also look at various other parameters. GH is also detectable as of now, I think a number of athletes have failed due to GH recently (don't know if the test has been taken to court yet etc). However, a test like this is cost prohibitive for any bb organization.
Skip supposedly failed a lie detector test a few years ago also.
Skip has also admitted to using pro-hormones in the past so he has no moral qualms with using hormones.
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He knows how to get ripped - and MaxOT has worked for me in terms of strength - but your joints will be in pain after about four weeks. I now switching over to HST to mix things up and get more reps out.
(http://www.skiplacour.com/2003_TU/single_biceps.gif)
(http://www.skiplacour.com/2003_TU/Side_Triceps_Upper_Comstock.gif)
(http://www.skiplacour.com/2003_TU/Single_Bicep.gif)
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awesome condition
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Very impressive. Natural? As natural as a Romenian girls gymnastics team at the Olympics (No).
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yes i beleive hes natural. If you gave skip the same drugs as a top IFBB PRO then you all would see......The man trains harder then anyone, hes on ronnie and branch's intensity level. balls to the wall.
u must be smoking crack.
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He's prolly not 100% natural. He lacks the fullness of an IFBB pro but looks a little beyond the state of a natural bodybuilder
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is he really that much more ripped than this guy? He's just bigger cause he has a better bone structure. Oh, yeah....this guy can't be natural either cause he's in better shape than 99.9% of the poeple who post here.
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is he really that much more ripped than this guy? He's just bigger cause he has a better bone structure. Oh, yeah....this guy can't be natural either cause he's in better shape than 99.9% of the poeple who post here.
yop I don't think he is either :)
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(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/813/1439/1600/upspaced_cbb100.jpg)
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yop I don't think he is either :)
Well, maybe no roids, but i think clen, ephedrine and t3/t4 are very common in 'naturals' when it comes to dieting down.
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is he really that much more ripped than this guy? He's just bigger cause he has a better bone structure.
No, Skip has a lot more mass, and is probably 15-20 years older.
It's much easier to be muscular a ripped at age 18-24, when you still have all that adolescent testosterone. Not so easy when you're past 40.
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Why is this brought up every week?
Would it make people feel better about themselves if he said he wasn't natural? Is it just easier if you set self imposed limits on yourself by refusing to believe he is natural?
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Why is this brought up every week? Would it make people feel better about themselves if he said he wasn't natural? Is it just easier if you set self imposed limits on yourself by refusing to believe he is natural?
the internet is not very tolerant of hypocrites
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Why is this brought up every week?
Would it make people feel better about themselves if he said he wasn't natural? Is it just easier if you set self imposed limits on yourself by refusing to believe he is natural?
The issue is brought up because he is notorious in IM for proclaiming himself King of All Naturals. Fine, let him prove it, at long last.
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Look how his cheeks are bloated, just like in any steroid user.
(http://www.skiplacour.com/2003_TU/Single_Bicep.gif)
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Dumbest post ever. So many delusions, so little time.
you made me pee in my pants ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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it's strange that some people think that "using steroids" means using 1 gram a week or more.
someone using 200 mg/week for 10 weeks a year will still have an advantage over someone who is truly natural.
I find it unlikely that someone who is bigger, harder, and more ripped than the top bodybuilders of the 70s, who we all know were using lots of steroids, did it drug free. It is even more unlikely if they are well past their athletic prime. In the pre steroid era, 35 was considered past one's prime. Skip is 44.
on spot
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is he really that much more ripped than this guy? He's just bigger cause he has a better bone structure. Oh, yeah....this guy can't be natural either cause he's in better shape than 99.9% of the poeple who post here.
that dude is like 165lbs while skip is 230lbs ::)
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he's not, if he is, he's a genetic freak............
on his website:
Skip La Cour has been training for more than 14 years and has been competing in bodybuilding contests for over 13 years. During that time span, La Cour has competed in 29 bodybuilding show around the world. At 5’ 11", La Cour’s competition weight ranges from 213 to 230 well-conditioned pounds.
man it took him one year (or even 2 or 3, with diet and training?) to start winning contest..... all natural, yeah ::)........ sure.
prohormone was baned like what? 2 years ago........ was it allowed, what about creatine? nolvedex, 6oxo, tribulus etc.............
what's really natural?
i have seen in my life time coulple of natural "genetic freaks",, the biggest of them is a very good friend from the czech republic,,he was 6'1 228lb at 12% bodyfat with superior muscle shape 19.5 inch arms,, last time we trained together was 2003,,,and he was natural because i gave him his first british disp dianabols and he was too scared to take them,, that was the biggest freakiest natural bodybuilder i have met and he looked every bit of it with 19.5 inch arms at 12%!
from this board,,,if dadywady is natural and i assume he is,,then he is what i would call "mini genetic freak" out of the choices i have,,load him on hormones and he is 300lb of iron at the least.
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i have seen in my life time coulple of natural "genetic freaks",, the biggest of them is a very good friend from the czech republic,,he was 6'1 228lb at 12% bodyfat with superior muscle shape 19.5 inch arms,, last time we trained together was 2003,,,and he was natural because i gave him his first british disp dianabols and he was too scared to take them,, that was the biggest freakiest natural bodybuilder i have met and he looked every bit of it with 19.5 inch arms at 12%!
from this board,,,if dadywady is natural and i assume he is,,then he is what i would call "mini genetic freak" out of the choices i have,,load him on hormones and he is 300lb of iron at the least.
228 at 6'1"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my Lord, what a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::)
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thanks for your input Nassr. now fvck off.
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is he really that much more ripped than this guy? He's just bigger cause he has a better bone structure. Oh, yeah....this guy can't be natural either cause he's in better shape than 99.9% of the poeple who post here.
LaCour is much much bigger than that guy and a bit harder. It's not even close. And as noted, he's 15 years older. Dude looks good though...
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that dude is like 165lbs while skip is 230lbs ::)
Skip ain't 230. ::)
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Sure... why not... he's natural cause he says so.
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Sure... why not... he's natural cause he says so.
ahahaaa, yes, just like Gustavo Badell.
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How about this question:
Regardless of whether Skip is natural or not, do you think Skip's combination of size/muscular development and conditioning achieveable naturally?
(for example, if someone more genetically gifted trained and dieted harder and smarter, started training earlier,...)
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ahahaaa, yes, just like Gustavo Badell.
Exactly!
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put urself in Skip's shoes. you're faced with the pressure to look great all the times. plus, you're surrounded by people who have easy access to AS.
personally, i truly believe Skip was natural at one point but right now I'm convinced he is not anymore. Nobody likes to get demoted. People lie to move to the top, or to stay at the top. All of us.
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So you all believe Jeff Willett isn't natural either? He's a bit bigger than Skip, and ripped to shreds.
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there WILL always be so called natties who cheat and runi it for the rest.
however those who constantly say natties in great shape are juiced are those who lack the genetics and potential to reach that level of physique
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well he one said "a physique that looks natural is not worth having" so there is your answer 8)
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this is a thing I've thought about over the last few years. I started the thread on the natural board. I think he is and I'll tell you why. First off he works for AST and has guys who have doctorats in nutrition and exercise physialogy-sp-working with him. They monitor pretty much everything he does and direct him if they see something they don't like. skip and Jeff Willet used to have journals on the aST site and they were great cause Jeff would be getting ready for a show and say stuff like "we decided this movement wasn't really optimal so we switched it with this on" or after observing his condition they would make little changes to his diet.
I just think they have a team of guys working with them who are very, very skilled in what they do and if you put anyone with a decent amount of potential in the same situation they'd succeed just like these guys are.
Think about it: wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows what he's doing telling you what to eat and when to eat it and another guy observing your training all the time and helping you fine tune it?
I just think they're in the optimal situation for what they do.
Do you know anything about AST and it's past?
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Some people believe that skip is natural soley based on the fact that his comp weight hasn't changed much in a decade...For that i say just look at what Shawn Ray has accomplished with close to the same weight for a decade while juiced to the gills...Skip has almost all the signs of Growth Hormone overload...Cutler jaw, Toney Pearson elbows and the thicking/separtion of the abs...
enough said