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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: New Hank Wood on January 27, 2007, 08:23:27 PM
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I think if you put Lee and Arnold on a stage the result would be clear-cut. Lee would have it in 'the bag'! OK, Arnold has the height, arms and chest but that's all. Lee is the total package. Yes, he is a very short man but being that way is not a disadvantage. In fact it makes Lee's physique appear larger than it is. His short little arms and legs look monstrous in size compared with the great Arnold.
Lee can match it with Arnold in the area of 'trash talking' as well. Both have never 'walked away' when it comes to speaking their mind. Both men are warriors in the gym but Lee is certainly more determined. He has always had to work around his clear height disadvantage. Arnold never had this problem. Yes, Arnold's superior height gave him a presence that is legendary. Lee has always had to deal with the jibes about his height. It is a credit to him that he never let it stand in the way of him reaching immortality in ranks of Professional Bodybuilding!
Short men can walk with the giants! Keep the dream alive Lee, and dont take any 'smack' from those negative 'industry insiders'.
Bodybuilding fans the world over ,would, without question ,put Lee above Arnold in any contest.
Train hard, live free!
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Considering Arnold peaked over 20 years before Lee, of course it's not going to be even, but I feel it'd be much closer than you think.
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A more appropriate match would be Lee vs Franco or Padilla. Either way, Lee kills Arnold in Arms and legs, the rest I'd have to see again.
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Arnold... all the way.
you really seem to be on his nuts.
Take Lee's cock out of your mouth, and step away from the bodybuilder.
Precisely; it would be much closer except in your deluded mind. :D
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Lee kills Arnold in Arms and legs, the rest I'd have to see again.
On arms, no. It's completely down to personal preference. I'd take Arnold's arms both for the shape and flow that longer limbs allows.
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arnold > lee
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Lee would slam on arnold theirs no doubt about it
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Lee would slam on arnold theirs no doubt about it
Ah... But Slin... you forget the most important thing - politics! ;)
Coming from Cuba the way he did, Sergio knew enough about politics to get a day job. Even though He had some of the best BBing potential of anyone - ever.
Arnold's accomplishments in life are phenomenal. But he's overrated as a BBer. He was never in the league of todays champs.
My vote goes for Lee. Even at their best, Arnie's legs had a long way to go in filling out if he was going to compete today. It may not have been a possability at all. And, Sergio's the only one ever, w/ arms on par w/ Priest IMO.
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thanks for ur opinion shawn ray ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Shawn?
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arnold by one foot ::)
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arnold by one foot ::)
;D
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I don't have to read your post to say Arnold - hands down.
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One word - legs. Actually two - legs and delts.
You didn't need remarkable legs or delts back in the day but now you do. Arnold would look skinny.
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Its like comparing a 1960s Indy car to present day. Quit venerating Arnold. Respect him for his impressive achievements. Yes, he had a hell of a upper body, but that era didn't even know about Quads till Tommy Platz!
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When priest comes in the same shape as he did in 2002, it's his.
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Arnold would look skinny.
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Its like comparing a 1960s Indy car to present day. Quit venerating Arnold. Respect him for his impressive achievements. Yes, he had a hell of a upper body, but that era didn't even know about Quads till Tommy Platz!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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according to bluto lee has a bigger penis than arnold s
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Arnold's accomplishments in life are phenomenal. But he's overrated as a BBer. He was never in the league of todays champs.
Even at their best, Arnie's legs had a long way to go in filling out if he was going to compete today. It may not have been a possability at all. And, Sergio's the only one ever, w/ arms on par w/ Priest IMO.
Entirely wrong, because you're forgetting Arnold's dominance in that era. In that era he and Oliva were the two best, so he was not over-rated. His legs were fine then, especially because he compensated for a typical early 70s lack of size with very good cuts, shape, good posing & great calves.
Also, in regards to today's BBs you've again neglected to offer any balance-his waist didn't have the GH bloat plus his aesthetics were/are still superior.
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I agree about two completely different eras. I think Sergio had Arnold beat in many areas, but Arnold was much better at presentation.
But comparing the guys from then to Today is not even a contest IMO.
It gets down to personal preference. If a guy dont like the look of todays top guys thats personal.
Sergio, Bertil, Marcus, Lee, and Dorian are some of my Favs. I dont care if they never won a thing.
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Its like comparing a 1960s Indy car to present day. Quit venerating Arnold. Respect him for his impressive achievements. Yes, he had a hell of a upper body, but that era didn't even know about Quads till Tommy Platz!
beautiful. And how many olympia statues does arnie have 7, how many does lee have 0
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beautiful. And how many olympia statues does arnie have 7, how many does lee have 0
Politics pal. Arnie was very marketable. Who is to say that toothpick legs on a massive upperbody is more astetic than Bertil at his best or Metzner, Vitor etc.
Wieder inc was the IFBB then, what was good for them was a winner in their book. Thats life.
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beautiful. And how many olympia statues does arnie have 7, how many does lee have 0
haha, and who would win out of Chris Dickerson and Flex Wheeler?
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haha, and who would win out of Chris Dickerson and Flex Wheeler?
Flex, hands down. Barring complications. Anyone know if Flex had the smallest wrists and elbows of any dude
that size ever? His look was unreal.
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haha, and who would win out of Chris Dickerson and Flex Wheeler?
Once again you are comparing physiques from different times. ANd who would beaten arnold with expection of the 1980. 1970-75 who should have beaten arnold.
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Once again you are comparing physiques from different times. ANd who would beaten arnold with expection of the 1980. 1970-75 who should have beaten arnold.
What?
I'm saying that more Olymia titles does not mean you are better. The guy I quoted was claiming Arnold had 7 olympias, Lee has none so Arnold would win. I'm disagreeing.
As for what you actually typed, it's shit whatever it says, lol.
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One word - legs. Actually two - legs and delts.
You didn't need remarkable legs or delts back in the day but now you do. Arnold would look skinny.
Exactly...look how much $hit they give Dennis wolf for not having calves. Arnold couldn't touch the muscularity of Wolf let alone a stacked Lee Priest.
Different people different opinions. Judged by todays standards Priest all they way, by the 70's standard Arnold. The world was infatuated with him. Back then it was more of a contest for second place.
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just thought i'd weigh in, but it's two different eras, it's impossible to compare. It's like comparing Wilt Chamberlain to Shaq - on one hand wilt dominated stats wise much more than shaq, but on the other the competition is much harder now with guys of more height, than what was around back in the day. Does that make Shaq better than Wilt or vice versa? No because neither was given the same opportunities as the other or same opponents as the other.
Same with Lee and Arnold, Arnold's physique was built for the judging style of that era, Lee's is built for the judging style of this era, and example being legs are a much more important part than they were back then, same with shredded glutes and hams.
It's pretty pointless IMO to even bother arguing about comparing them just accept that both have great physiques for their respective eras and leave it at that. You would be much better off comparing Lee to a modern day counterpart and Arnold to one of his era.
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2 completely different thing
if awwwnold could compete with lee now, it's Arnold all the way (with todays training and cycles)
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This is possibly the most inane thread on getbig (no mean feat). Whoever posted it should be bitch slapped for mentioning lee "also ran" priest with arguably the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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This is possibly the most inane thread on getbig (no mean feat). Whoever posted it should be bitch slapped for mentioning lee "also ran" priest with arguably the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
Bullshit. Its like comparing a 1970s FI race car to present day.
Arnie had no legs by todays standard. It could be argued he held back standards for leg development w/ the
nonsensical idea they can be "Overdeveloped" ::) Ha! What crap.
Lee and Sergio hold the standard for guns.
Although Lee's wheels aint up to level of many todays pro BBers, at least he HAS legs...
Quit venerating Schwartzenager. He had his time in the BBing spotlight. Get real and move on.
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I would pick Aronald to beat Lee Priest.
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I would pick Aronald to beat Lee Priest.
This Aronald guy must be a beast.
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(http://www.houseofdeception.com/images/Midget%20Wrestler%20Fuzzy%20Cupid.jpg) Lee who?................oh yeah the midget.
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Arnold..............5 time Mr Universe Mr World and 7 time Mr Olympia. Multi Millionaire by 1975 before his superstardome. Major success is all he touches. Worth over 1 billion dollars and the Govoner of California. The inspiration to all bodybuilders, simply look at a barbell and pick it up and just say it........."Arnold!" but go ahead.........try to compare some 3rd tier bodybuilder to the legend. After all Arnold's greatness is so great that is why people born after his bodybuilding career are trying to compare new guys to him. You cannot erase the past by setting up a contest that will never be. Fact is if Arnold trained today and was the same guy only in his prime he would still do today what he did near 40 years ago.............clean house.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/foto31.jpg)
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There's a great pic of him from that same series up in Golds in Venice in the front room, I always look at it when I'm going ATG squats for some inspiration =)
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Arnold..............5 time Mr Universe Mr World and 7 time Mr Olympia. Multi Millionaire by 1975 before his superstardome. Major success is all he touches. Worth over 1 billion dollars and the Govoner of California.
Yes, it seems that Arnie has been successful in all his endeavors, and more successful than anyone else would ever have been in those same situations.
For instance, Lee could never do Kindergarten Cop.
The kids would dwarf him.
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Arnold..............5 time Mr Universe Mr World and 7 time Mr Olympia. Multi Millionaire by 1975 before his superstardome. Major success is all he touches. Worth over 1 billion dollars and the Govoner of California. The inspiration to all bodybuilders, simply look at a barbell and pick it up and just say it........."Arnold!" but go ahead.........try to compare some 3rd tier bodybuilder to the legend. After all Arnold's greatness is so great that is why people born after his bodybuilding career are trying to compare new guys to him. You cannot erase the past by setting up a contest that will never be. Fact is if Arnold trained today and was the same guy only in his prime he would still do today what he did near 40 years ago.............clean house.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/foto31.jpg)
Good post, he did what he needed to do to win.
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Multi Millionaire by 1975 before his superstardome.
Where did his wealth come from at that stage?
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Where did his wealth come from at that stage?
He was a boy toy for wealthy gay men, at least that's the rumor.
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Shit.
I’d never heard that rumor.
I once read that he is the first US civilian to own a Hummer.
Although it now sounds as if his first encounter with a hummer may predate his automotive accolades.
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Shit.
I’d never heard that rumor.
I once read that he is the first US civilian to own a Hummer.
Although it now sounds as if his first encounter with a hummer may predate his automotive accolades.
Yea it's pretty likely from what I've read. He came to the states with no money yet somehow he managed to start buying up property all over Venice. There were several wealthy gay men whom he hung around, all of which are dead now, so it's been rumored that's where the source of his initial money came from.
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I find any of these accusations highly unlikely. He worked for Joe Weider. Joe gave him everything even his first business connections. Arnold sold t-shirts with his likeness and name on them and also sold training manuals back in the day. I remember this from that time, I lived in central California and some of the guys on the block where buying into his training manuals. So it is possible that he was able to wheel and deal his own money without sucking cock.
Arnold once walked into jewelry a store in Manhatten and talked the proprietor to give him a Rolex watch, simply because he would be advertising it by wearing it. The man was a born salesman.
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Well I honestly wouldn't put it past him, he did whatever it took to get shit done. But who knows, it's all just rumors anyway and he'll never come out and say "Yes, I inserted mens penis' into my mouth for money" so we'll never know =)
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What would be interesting is two photos, side by side. One of Arnold and Lee (photos must be identical in scale).
A comparison of this type would be very interesting.