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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: ToxicAvenger on January 29, 2007, 09:49:10 AM
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just heard on the news 10 mins ago...
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"Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro was euthanized Monday morning after the latest complications from his meltdown at the Preakness last May."
Damn, that's just wrong, yo.
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its wrong though...let the horse live out lts life.....it can hobble around..and eat grass in a field someplace..
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:-\ :'(
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its wrong though...let the horse live out lts life.....it can hobble around..and eat grass in a field someplace..
no it needs 4 healthy legs
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People wanted to see him make it because of his personality and the long odds. The doctors did everything possible but the chances of fixing such small bones that hold so much weight is why horses usually don't make it.
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i think they put the horse down as soon as it becomes an expense rather than making em $
which is wrong..
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i think they put the horse down as soon as it becomes an expense rather than making em $
which is wrong..
Obviously that's a consideration, because medical expenses are high. It's also about the difficulty in saving a life at any cost considering how much weight must be borne by the small bones that have to heal while the horse is standing.
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i'm a horse lover..i'm bound to be a little pissed.. :-\
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Say bye bye to all those stud fees.
The shame is he would have made MUCH MUCH MUCH more money for his owners in stud fees than he did as a race horse.
And of course his story was compelling. It's a shame they couldn't save him.
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its wrong though...let the horse live out lts life.....it can hobble around..and eat grass in a field someplace..
Actually they said it would never walk again without pain. No point in forcing the animal to hobble around for the rest of it's life on two bad legs.
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Say bye bye to all those stud fees.
The shame is he would have made MUCH MUCH MUCH more money for his owners in stud fees than he did as a race horse.
And of course his story was compelling. It's a shame they couldn't save him.
Tell me you got a atom?
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i think they put the horse down as soon as it becomes an expense rather than making em $
which is wrong..
But it happens all the time. Scroll down to where the article talks about track horses. :'(
http://www.equineadvocates.com/slaughter.html
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Say bye bye to all those stud fees.
The shame is he would have made MUCH MUCH MUCH more money for his owners in stud fees than he did as a race horse.
And of course his story was compelling. It's a shame they couldn't save him.
They're not that bloody stupid. They'll have as much of it's spunk as they could get in the freezer.
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But it happens all the time. Scroll down to where the article talks about track horses. :'(
http://www.equineadvocates.com/slaughter.html
They usually euthanize them on the spot. Only reason they kept him around was because he won the Derby.
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They usually euthanize them on the spot. Only reason they kept him around was because he won the Derby.
Yes, I know. It isn't worth it for the owners... I was just pointing out that not many track horses in general end up as someone's pet, frolicking in golden fields till it's time to go to horse heaven. Actually, I bet a lot of European bodybuilders eat horsemeat because it's much leaner than beef.
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Actually, I bet a lot of European bodybuilders eat horsemeat because it's much leaner than beef.
serge nubret did..
i asked him on the gossip and he said he did :(
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serge nubret did..
i asked him on the gossip and he said he did :(
I've had it too. Still can't believe it. The French eat horse... probably in Belgium as well.
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I've had it too.
>:(
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>:(
It was fed to me. >:(
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It was fed to me. >:(
ok..thats kinda acceptable..
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I'm sorry he didn't make it because of what i'd read about his spirit as well as the disturbing footage of the accident happening in full view. Kept up with the medical details, looked good until recently.
Just a reminder that horses racing is tenuous, high chance of problems and of death if there's an accident.
Barbaro is dead. The four-year-old colt who suffered a catastrophic leg injury in the Preakness Stakes last May, was euthanised early today (New Zealand time).
The Kentucky Derby winner was given his regular morning feed of grass while resting in his support sling. With his supporters and caregivers around him, he was then given the overdose of tranquiliser that ended his life.
Barbaro had bounced back from a number of serious complications during his recovery, with at one stage chief surgeon Dean Richardson describing his outlook as poor, with the development of serious laminitis in his uninjured hind leg.
However, Barbaro rebounded and appeared on the path to a recovery, and on to what Richardson suggested would be a comfortable life.
The story of Barbaro grabbed international headlines and countless of thousands of people followed his progress intently, not only on this site, but on many others that provided regular updates.
Google News is now awash with stories of his death, many of them paying tribute to the champion. Just hours after his death, Google was carrying more than 4000 stories about the decision to end his life.
Horse discussion forums around the internet were awash with personal tributes to the champion. Many admitted to being in tears after reading of his death.
Barbaro's co-owner Roy Jackson said: "We just reached a point where it was going to be difficult for him to go on without pain.
"It was the right decision, it was the right thing to do. We said all along if there was a situation where it would become more difficult for him then it would be time."
The decision to euthanize Barbaro was made in consultation with Richardson. Those in key decision-making positions had always made it clear that they were determined that Barbaro would not be allowed to suffer.
Barbaro had reportedly not had a good night and, with the likelihood of more pain arising from his latest complication, the decision was made.
The Preakness winner had battled not only the shattered hind leg, but infections, at least one abscess, and laminitis in his uninjured right leg, which resulted in the removal of 80 per cent of the hoof.
Barbaro spent most of the last eight months in a stall, but in recent times, as his hind legs grew stronger, was able to walk in nearly pasture and eat grass.
He spent time in a sling to take the weight off his legs, but nevertheless remained in good spirits, and with a good apetite.
The horse's owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, just last week tied for the Owner of the Year Award at the Eclipse Racing Awards - a fitting tribute to the dedication they showed to their horse. They also received a special award.
Roy Jackson said to Barbaro's many well-wishers: "I would say thank you for everything, and all your thoughts and prayers over the last eight months or so," Jackson said to Barbaro's fans.
Barbaro, was treated for his injury at the New Bolton Centre, 50km from Philadelphia.
The horse underwent a five-hour operation in which nearly 30 screws and a titanium plate were inserted to hold the three shattered bones together.
More surgery and cast changes were required during the rollercoaster road through the complications that arose, with tide turning against Barbaro around January 10.
Further complications arose during the weekend after another abscess was discovered last week. Barbaro underwent surgery at the weekend during which two steel pins were inserted into a bone to eliminate all weight-bearing on the affected foot.
Many following the Barbaro story got a sense that the situation was becoming worrying - confirmed with news of the horse's death.
While Barbaro will be remembered for his brave fight after his accident, most will also remember him for his short but brilliant track career.
One of his legacies includes $US1.2 million collected since early June for the Barbaro Fund. The money was put toward needed equipment such as an operating room table, and a raft and sling for the same pool recovery Barbaro used after his surgeries.
The Jacksons had reportedly never been concerned about whether Barbaro would be able to breed, hoping only that he would be able to enjoy a comfortable farm life.
Barbaro, born and raised at Sanborn Chase at Springmint Farm in Kentucky, showed remarkable track form, culminating in a fantastic six and half length win in the Kentucky Derby. He had demolished one of the best fields lined up for the event in years.
His winning margin had not been seen since Assault win in 1946.
The horse was earmarked for Triple Crown glory, but the tragedy in the Preakness brought the dream to a devastating end.
The effort put in to save Barbaro's life was unquestionably one of the great efforts made to rehabilitate a horse.
For the record, his career ended with stake earnings of $US2.302 million, with six wins from seven start.
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Barbaro’s Hopeful Legacy
In human medicine, the “battlefield effect” refers to innovations by wartime medics and surgeons that eventually trickle down to ordinary people in emergency rooms across the country. A similar benefit to horses is expected from the Barbaro case. Equine surgeons at the University of Pennsylvania’s New Bolton Center were among the first to make use of a “locking compression plate,” a system of plates and screws that holds pieces of bone together, when they repaired Barbaro’s extensive fractures; it had previously been a technique for long-bone breaks in humans. And the intense national interest in the New Bolton Center’s specialized rehab tools—like a “horse raft” that kept Barbaro suspended in a heated recovery pool, taking weight off his fragile limbs—generated almost $1.2 million in donations for equipment and research.
Most of the other procedures done on the 4-year-old colt were established techniques, from “regional perfusions” that delivered high concentrations of antibiotics to specific tissues, to hoof surgeries that lessened pain from laminitis. “These are things that are not brand new, but every horse you gain some information from,” says Dr. Alan Ruggles, an orthopedics specialist at Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital in Kentucky. “The frequency with which they were applied, and the intensity of the treatment—that’s probably unique to Barbaro.” The extraordinary efforts were working—a stunning reversal for a horse many assumed would be euthanized immediately after the Preakness—until the laminitis returned in force. Barbaro’s pain was becoming unmanageable, and owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson decided to put the colt down at 10:30 Monday morning.
After such a high-profile course of treatment, future owners of thoroughbreds with catastrophic injuries will be more likely to ask vets for a miracle. “I think more owners will attempt to do this,” says Dr. Nathaniel White, a surgeon at the Marion duPont Scott Equine Medical Center in Leesburg, Va. In some cases, advanced medicine practiced on Barbaro will save them. In others, it will only prolong the inevitable. Is the extraordinary effort and cost worth it? “We have the ability to do it now, but it’s up to the owner,” White says. “These decisions are sometimes economic”—while Barbaro’s treatment was expensive, he stood to generate millions in stud fees—“and other times it’s based on what the person cares about the horse. It’s an individual decision in each case, and I think that it needs to be left at that.”
“Barbaro’s legacy doesn’t end with him being euthanized,” Ruggles says. “It inspires people, the general public, to be interested in things of this nature, it points out how far we’ve come and how far we still have to go. It’s obviously a tragic outcome, but there have been a lot of positives for veterinary medicine in general, and horse surgery specifically.”
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i'm a horse lover..i'm bound to be a little pissed.. :-\
no matter how mad you get your avatar will never allow me to take you seriously ;D
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we need to remember .something positive....this is my flex wheeler as far as orses are concerned!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5887442402966157203&q=secretariat&hl=en
watch the big fella..he is LAST at the first turn....keep an eye on his AT LAST!.. 8)
EVERY fucking time...i'm left with goosebumps and feeling weirdly emotional...
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superhorse!
NEVER been equalled!
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one last time...
i pride myself..aint a horse alive i couldn't handle..but this guys ego..would clash with mine..his gait..gives his pride away..i wish i had had the honour to have had known him..
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Barbaro message board
http://www.vet.upenn.edu/barbaro/messageboard.php
In diagnosing the public's unreasoning love for Barbaro, maybe it comes down to the fact that he never lied to us. Human nature seems like a sorry, wastrel thing, compared to that horse. No doubt, we idealized him, but the fact is, we could have used a happy ending for Barbaro, given some of the Gilded Age characters who parade safely through public life into retirement. His survival seemed like one good thing, a balm for foreign wars, domestic deceit, and the bimbo cocktail party circuit, ruthless wealth-swappage, and cross-entouraging that we lately call American culture.
Barbaro was an honest, blameless competitor. Our ridiculously soft feeling for him was based at least partly on that fact. Unlike so many people in the sports pages, he was neither felonious, nor neurotic. He let us place burdens on him, whether a saddle, a bet, or a leg brace, and he carried them willingly, even jauntily.
On the track, his trainer and jockey reported that there seemed no end to what he was willing to give. "Bottomless," was how they described his heart. He obviously raced for pleasure, and he ran with such dynamic abandon that he made circling a track seem an impetuous act. His effort was always sincere and supreme, and when he won the Kentucky Derby by 6 1/2 lengths, the largest margin in the race since 1946, it was less of a surprise than an affirmation to the people who had reared him. "Why shouldn't we have felt that way? Every time he had run before, he never let us down," trainer Michael Matz said to the Thoroughbred Times. "His will to win was obvious in whatever he did."
Also, he was handsome. On display in his stall, he had the calm expression of an inveterate star, and a preening stance that suggested he'd heard the roar of the crowd and knew he'd won the big one. Even his doctor, Dean Richardson, who hardly saw him at his best, noticed this. When he was asked why Barbaro excited such affection from perfect strangers, a choked Richardson replied, "He was good looking."
We followed his medical reports like they were our own. Phrases like "laminitic area," and "deep subsolar abscess" became familiar, as did the anatomy of his horribly damaged hind leg, the shattered pastern and sesamoid, and the pinned cannon bone.
There have been continual attempts to analyze why Barbaro's fight to survive so captivated the public, but maybe it's fairly simple: He had both innocence and greatness and it's not often you find those ephemeral qualities alive in the same creature. What's more, anyone who watched Barbaro run in the Derby felt that they saw traces of a distinct character: He was winsome. This gave his suffering specificity. We felt we knew him.
Possibly, this is anthropomorphic, and some have rightly pointed out that we should care as much about human beings. But it's not anthropomorphic to say that horses are irreproachably benevolent creatures, and this is surely one of the causes of our grief over Barbaro. It's a fact that of 4,000-odd animal species, only a very few are tame-able, none more so than horses. They are peaceful grazers by nature, and willing by disposition. Despite their considerable size advantage, they tolerate us and even bear burdens for us. While thoroughbreds can certainly be fearsome, their misbehavior is a flight response, not sadism, or outlawry. They have followed us, and favored us with their gifts to an extent that few other animals do, and partnered with us throughout history, from Persia to the Pony Express. "Gallant" is a word often applied to them, and it's apt.
Barbaro seems to have had all the virtues of his breed, and a few more besides. His character wasn't a matter of wishful projection, it existed, and was quite vivid to those who cared for him. He was indefatigable and had a high tolerance for pain. He was mettlesome without being spiteful -- and how often do you find that? He was expressive. In a lovely piece a few weeks ago by John Scheinman of The Washington Post, one of his night nurses described him as "mouthy." He befriended another patient at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa.: a cow. When he slept, his night nurse would pet him.
Despite pain and confinement, he wasn't mean. Among the things that caused his owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, to give up hope yesterday was that, in the grip of wounded exhaustion, he finally tried to bite the hand of his doctor, Richardson. It was a first in eight months of treatment.
Novelist Jane Smiley wrote a strange and wonderful book a couple of years ago called "A Year at the Races," in which she explained, with an articulacy missing here, that the human engagement with horses is nothing less than a love story. If you were wondering why the death of Barbaro hurts so, there is the answer:
"A love story, at least a convincing one, requires three elements: the lover, the beloved, and the adventures they have together," Smiley wrote. "If the lover isn't ardent, then the story isn't a love story. If the beloved isn't appealing, then the lover just seems idiosyncratic or even crazy; and if they have no adventures, then their love is too easy, and they have no way of learning anything important about themselves and one another."
Barbaro was appealing, and he was obviously beloved by the public, and by his owners. If the public learned anything from him, it was that with enjoyment of thoroughbreds comes responsibility for doing the right thing by them. One of the few consoling results from the Barbaro tragedy was an anonymous gift of $500,000 for the establishment of the Barbaro Fund, for animal care at the hospital where he died. Yesterday, it was Gretchen Jackson who best summed up the public outpouring for a horse. "Certainly, grief is the price we all pay for love," she said.
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http://www.amazon.com/There-Problem-Horses-Only-Riders/dp/061812750X
excellent book for people that ride ..or used to..
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Say bye bye to all those stud fees.
The shame is he would have made MUCH MUCH MUCH more money for his owners in stud fees than he did as a race horse.
And of course his story was compelling. It's a shame they couldn't save him.
They had already bred him---it was shown after his 1st surgery that he was recieving company from "the ladies"
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i'm a horse lover..i'm bound to be a little pissed.. :-\
If you were a horse lover you would be glad barbaro's suffering was over instead of wishing for him to limp around a field while falling down trying to nibble grass.
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i saw the story on CNN...
i understand it ws the last resort....he ws in much pain..
but sometimes horses r put down for MUCH less..