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Title: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2007, 05:04:54 PM
Would having Shawn or Flex as Mr. O have changed what they Olympia bodies would have looked like? No more big bellies, wrinkly skin on backs, and size, just for size sake? Would that have taken bbing to another level, being that Shawn already had a show on Espn back in the day, and Flex was linked to Dr. Dre, bridging a gap to the hip-hop culture. Both making it cool to workout, both having two distinct styles, like Kenneth Cole shoes versus Wheat colored Timerlands.

Or would it not matter, and we would still see the Gh guts and. deformed bodies
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 05:33:31 PM
I'm sure it would have been more marketable had flex or Shawn won an Olympia.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 03, 2007, 05:37:31 PM
Thats what they say , if a smaller more aesthetic guy wins everyone would try and go that route , like when Yates won at 257 pounds in 93 everyone decided bigger is better and everyone started playing the size game
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 05:47:32 PM
I think had flex or shawn or even labrada won there would of been endorsments from fortune 500 companies, like Nike, Reebok etc etc..
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
I think had flex or shawn or even labrada won there would of been endorsments from fortune 500 companies, like Nike, Reebok etc etc..

Apparently Kevin Levrone was working with Nike in developing a training shoe. It was called The Ghost...because it never appeared.

With Shawn's connections and polished image as a ladies man, and Flex's image as a cocky playa , they both would have taken the spor to the next level. Flex probably would have been in more than just one Dr. Dre video.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: ether on February 03, 2007, 06:08:30 PM
They both would not have gone bald.


Flex would still have working Kidneys.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 06:08:42 PM
Apparently Kevin Levrone was working with Nike in developing a training shoe. It was called The Ghost...because it never appeared.

With Shawn's connections and polished image as a ladies man, and Flex's image as a cocky playa , they both would have taken the spor to the next level. Flex probably would have been in more than just one Dr. Dre video.
wat video was that????
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 03, 2007, 06:09:41 PM
Flex, Shawn, or Kevin... either of them could have taken the sport in a new and I believe better direction... simply because they were not going to play the "MASS" game with anyone who came along... they would without a doubt played the better is better, not bigger is better game.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 06:12:46 PM
i know its slightly homo of me but Flex, shawn and levrone were much better looking then yates, they would of made more female fans and not the fitness types just the average female
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2007, 06:16:18 PM
wat video was that????

I forgot, but in it, Flex is lifting, doing arms. 1993 i guess. It might be in the Dr.Dre video compilation
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 06:17:30 PM
i think it was "the lady of rage" video
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: ribonucleic on February 03, 2007, 06:30:35 PM
If Flex had won, he would have been assassinated by ninjas.

(http://www.mysticalkoala.com/tncc/ninjas.jpg)
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 03, 2007, 06:32:38 PM
If Flex had won, he would have been assassinated by ninjas.

(http://www.mysticalkoala.com/tncc/ninjas.jpg)

Maybe just held for ransome.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: GoneAway on February 03, 2007, 06:47:38 PM
The sport needs an aesthetic guy to win. Needs to change its image big time. The same folks who go to shows will still go, but we need new fans that aspire to look like the physiques on stage and that's what will get them into bodybuilding.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 03, 2007, 06:48:46 PM
i say let Johnnie jackson win
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: ribonucleic on February 03, 2007, 06:48:57 PM
The sport needs an aesthetic guy to win.

(http://www.powershack.net/Bodybuilding/BB_Images3/Heath-USAChamp.jpg)
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 04, 2007, 08:23:50 AM
the whole thing with nike and levorne thing is true. from what i was told, the deal didn't amount to anything because weider got in the middle of it. apparently, wieder was piseed that kevin/nike didn't ask weider for his permission. rumor has it that's one of the underlying reasons why levrone never won the olympia !!!!!
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Knives on February 04, 2007, 08:41:24 AM
i say let Johnnie jackson win

he needs calves first.....well a lot of guys do, but personally i think his are the worst in BBing
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: getfast81 on February 04, 2007, 08:49:48 AM
As long as JOJ uses his anator p70 (patent pending), Creakic, GAKIC, along with the musclebuilding stack of Cell_tech and Nitro_Tech he will dominate for years to come.........
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Knives on February 04, 2007, 09:17:14 AM
As long as JOJ uses his anator p70 (patent pending), Creakic, GAKIC, along with the musclebuilding stack of Cell_tech and Nitro_Tech he will dominate for years to come.........

Of course!  That's how Jay Cutler won!
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on February 04, 2007, 09:17:58 AM
What do you guys mean when you talk about making bodybuilding more marketable?  Do you honestly think mainstream media, companies and the public would be aware of who Mr Olympia is, much less give a shit or offer endorsement contracts?  Get real, competitive bodybuilding has about as much impact on the real world as unicycle hockey.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2007, 09:22:59 AM
Shawn would probably have been the best spokesperson for BBing after Arnold.  He had the look that many could appeal to as opposed to DOz and the Racist.  Jay is more marketable because he is white, literate and can put together a coherent thought.  Shawn actualyl has intelligence.  Flex is an idiot with a lisp, do you really want him being a spokesperson for BBing.  In terms of just speaking ability, I think Shawn and/or Bob are best suited.  Kevin was a great BBer but in M3 he sounded retarded.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 04, 2007, 01:54:54 PM
how is a sport where the main supplement is steroids going to go mainstream, it will never happen, even if justin timberlake wanted to become a ifbb pro
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2007, 01:55:29 PM
probably, but we will never know for certain.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: SteelePegasus on February 04, 2007, 02:04:28 PM
don't worry girls

the wrath of frank mcgrath will bring the universe back to the proper state
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
the whole thing with nike and levorne thing is true. from what i was told, the deal didn't amount to anything because weider got in the middle of it. apparently, wieder was piseed that kevin/nike didn't ask weider for his permission. rumor has it that's one of the underlying reasons why levrone never won the olympia !!!!!

Damn, fvckers want to control everything. I guess because kev was a Weider athlete and was exclusively contracted to them did they feel that they were the ones who could only endorse him. He needed a good endorsment agent.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 02:07:18 PM
Flex is an idiot with a lisp, do you really want him being a spokesperson for BBing. 

Flex only had a lisp on the BFTO 97, I gues the GH f-up his jaw (reason for him getting braces). He didn't sound like that in his Hardbody vid or Mass Constrution.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Alex23 on February 04, 2007, 02:08:00 PM
Definitely. Same way Phil Heath will. Crazy masse era is over.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2007, 02:13:32 PM
Flex only had a lisp on the BFTO 97, I gues the GH f-up his jaw (reason for him getting braces). He didn't sound like that in his Hardbody vid or Mass Constrution.
it's slight but it's there, still.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: gh15 on February 04, 2007, 02:20:17 PM
kevin was very very big guy on stage,, he was symetric and proportional but he was a mass monster,,at 250 he looked 265-270 and looked every bit of it,,kevin was a symetric beast that SHOULD HAVE WON it sometime during the 90s between dorian and ron
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 02:21:23 PM
it's slight but it's there, still.

Actually your right. It is slight, but not as pronounced

Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2007, 02:21:52 PM
kevin was very very big guy on stage,, he was symetric and proportional but he was a mass monster,,at 250 he looked 265-270 and looked every bit of it,,kevin was a symetric beast that SHOULD HAVE WON it sometime during the 90s between dorian and ron
We definitely agree.  Besides Escilene how do you account for his massive arms and delts GH?
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on February 04, 2007, 02:22:33 PM
kevins great but never a ronnie. ronnie is one of a kind
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: gh15 on February 04, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
We definitely agree.  Besides Escilene how do you account for his massive arms and delts GH?

phenominal response to hormones,,site inections,,and training the muscle not the ego,,

and yes ron is one of a kind,,but kevin was a lot better than jason and jason got a title,,it's all about timing in life
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2007, 02:26:41 PM
phenominal response to hormones,,site inections,,and training the muscle not the ego,,

and yes ron is one of a kind,,but kevin was a lot better than jason and jason got a title,,it's all about timing in life
Yea, I'd kill for those triceps man.  Seriously crazy.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: MCWAY on February 04, 2007, 02:53:09 PM
Flex, Shawn, or Kevin... either of them could have taken the sport in a new and I believe better direction... simply because they were not going to play the "MASS" game with anyone who came along... they would without a doubt played the better is better, not bigger is better game.

Size-wise, there wasn't a huge difference between Kevin, Flex and, Ronnie. So, I don't see how Levrone or Wheeler winning the title would have made much of a difference.

Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 04, 2007, 02:58:46 PM
as long as there taking steroids there is no way this "Sport" is going mainstream, hell even natural bodybuilding does not register an interest with anyone
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2007, 02:59:50 PM
as long as there taking steroids there is no way this "Sport" is going mainstream, hell even natural bodybuilding does not register an interest with anyone
Because many women want the metrosexual Beckham/Pitt look and think that is muscular.  I mean these people think TO is a beast, C'mon.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 04, 2007, 03:01:01 PM
Because many women want the metrosexual Beckham/Pitt look and think that is muscular.  I mean these people think TO is a beast, C'mon.
exactly..close thread
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 04, 2007, 03:02:37 PM
the only reason coleman beat levrone in 00 annd 02 was due to colemans incredible/best ever back. when ronnie truned around the show was over. kevin looked better than ronnie from the front. have you all notice in the "o"  posedown, whenever kev got close to ronnie to pse , ronnie would turn around  and hit back shots.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: MCWAY on February 04, 2007, 03:11:03 PM
as long as there taking steroids there is no way this "Sport" is going mainstream, hell even natural bodybuilding does not register an interest with anyone

It isn't so much the steroid issue. People see super-muscular men on a regular basis (i.e. professional wrestling). If you watch the CW network's promos, you'll likely see Dave Batista gracing the screen.

Bodybuilders aren't perceived as athletes, because, to the average Joe, they do NOTHING with their muscles. They don't bodyslam people; they don't perform any feat of strengh or speed.

Another factor is that bodybuilding has very few casual fans, in other words, people who love bodybuilding that DO NOT lift weights or compete themselves (or are related/romantically linked to those that do).


Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 04, 2007, 03:15:28 PM
It isn't so much the steroid issue. People see super-muscular men on a regular basis (i.e. professional wrestling). If you watch the CW network's promos, you'll likely see Dave Batista gracing the screen.

Bodybuilders aren't perceived as athletes, because, to the average Joe, they do NOTHING with their muscles. They don't bodyslam people; they don't perform any feat of strengh or speed.

Another factor is that bodybuilding has very few casual fans, in other words, people who love bodybuilding that DO NOT lift weights or compete themselves (or are related/romantically linked to those that do).



great point, maybe make them have a tug o war at the olympia
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on February 04, 2007, 03:37:09 PM
the only reason coleman beat levrone in 00 annd 02 was due to colemans incredible/best ever back. when ronnie truned around the show was over. kevin looked better than ronnie from the front. have you all notice in the "o"  posedown, whenever kev got close to ronnie to pse , ronnie would turn around  and hit back shots.

hey can you tell us alittle about kevins training routine (i know its not magic and just alot of hardwork..) but would be interesting still...
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Quickerblade on February 04, 2007, 03:39:58 PM
Shawn, feel free to chime in and give us your point of view
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 05, 2007, 03:30:42 AM
there was no secret to kev's training. he did all the basic lifts with heavy heavy weight 6-8 reps. he only trained 4-5 month for every show . however he trained his ass off when getting ready.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: GoneAway on February 05, 2007, 04:23:14 AM
there was no secret to kev's training. he did all the basic lifts with heavy heavy weight 6-8 reps. he only trained 4-5 month for every show . however he trained his ass off when getting ready.

Lev was a BEAST in the FLEX Mag Workouts, circa early 90's. Trained heavy and just was freaky big.
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Pollux on February 05, 2007, 06:02:50 AM
Would having Shawn or Flex as Mr. O have changed what they Olympia bodies would have looked like? No more big bellies, wrinkly skin on backs, and size, just for size sake? Would that have taken bbing to another level, being that Shawn already had a show on Espn back in the day, and Flex was linked to Dr. Dre, bridging a gap to the hip-hop culture. Both making it cool to workout, both having two distinct styles, like Kenneth Cole shoes versus Wheat colored Timerlands.

Or would it not matter, and we would still see the Gh guts and. deformed bodies

The turning point was when Dorian Yates beat Flex Wheeler at the '93 Olympia.  >:(
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: Rearden Metal on February 05, 2007, 07:51:13 AM
don't worry girls

the wrath of frank mcgrath will bring the universe back to the proper state

Dude did one show like 4 years ago, and didn't win. I'll reserve judgement for now, kay?
Title: Re: If Shawn or Flex won an Olympia, would it have changed the game?
Post by: OneBigMan on February 05, 2007, 01:56:05 PM
the whole thing with nike and levorne thing is true. from what i was told, the deal didn't amount to anything because weider got in the middle of it. apparently, wieder was piseed that kevin/nike didn't ask weider for his permission. rumor has it that's one of the underlying reasons why levrone never won the olympia !!!!!

I'm sure most of you know about the Twinlab commercial that Levrone did with Ron Coleman.