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Title: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 05:23:28 PM
How big is your monitor?  I’m (ebay) bidding on a new 24” flat screen.  Can’t believe I’ve been using a 19” CRT all these years.  :-[
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
How big is your monitor?  I’m (ebay) bidding on a new 24” flat screen.  Can’t believe I’ve been using a 19” CRT all these years.  :-[

Be careful when buying an LCD from a less than trusted source. Dead pixels in the wrong place can ruin the experience and if the retailer you bought from doesn't have a dead pixel policy things could get sticky.

Also, make sure your graphics card can handle the native resolution of your new screen.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 05:31:23 PM
All good counsel.  I balked at refurbished models for that very reason.  I want a brand new unit that comes with a warranty.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 06, 2007, 05:41:45 PM
How big is your monitor?  I’m (ebay) bidding on a new 24” flat screen.  Can’t believe I’ve been using a 19” CRT all these years.  :-[

15" and 20"

I've had nothing but good experiences with newegg as well.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 05:43:02 PM
All good counsel.  I balked at refurbished models for that very reason.  I want a brand new unit that comes with a warranty.

If it's the Dell 2407FPW that you're bidding on, nice monitor and good luck with it.

15" and 20"

I've had nothing but good experiences with newegg as well.

I bought a widescreen LCD monitor about 6 months ago and I have no idea how I ever lived without one. Now when I use a 4:3 monitor it feels strange.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 05:44:47 PM
I originally wanted the HP L2335  http://reviews.cnet.com/HP_L2335/4505-3174_7-30788118.html
but brand new ones are hard to come buy.  I did find one the other day and placed an order but the vendor had a problem (I won’t go into) so I cancelled the order.

So now I’m looking at the Dell Ultra Sharp.  It’s not as good as the HP but it’s almost half the price!
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 05:47:14 PM
I originally wanted the HP L2335  http://reviews.cnet.com/HP_L2335/4505-3174_7-30788118.html
but brand new ones are hard to come buy.  I did find one the other day and placed an order but the vendor had a problem (I won’t go into) so I cancelled the order.

So now I’m looking at the Dell Ultra Sharp.  It’s not as good as the HP but it’s almost half the price!


Have you looked at the Samsung 244-T, beautiful monitor or the HP LP2465?
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 05:55:28 PM
Have you looked at the Samsung 244-T, beautiful monitor or the HP LP2465?

Yes.

The good: Bright, crisp image; incredible contrast ratio; stable and flexible stand; fast pixel-response time; all the cables you'll need are included; three-year warranty.

The bad: Limited video connections underscore the point that this is an office display, despite its large size;no media card reader; DVD playback is blurry at times.

For the money it is not the best value.  :(
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 06, 2007, 05:57:43 PM
How big is your monitor?  I’m (ebay) bidding on a new 24” flat screen.  Can’t believe I’ve been using a 19” CRT all these years.  :-[

you dont sound gay here mang..you sould metrosexual..

and yes thats an insult  :-\
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 06:30:50 PM
Yes.

The good: Bright, crisp image; incredible contrast ratio; stable and flexible stand; fast pixel-response time; all the cables you'll need are included; three-year warranty.

The bad: Limited video connections underscore the point that this is an office display, despite its large size;no media card reader; DVD playback is blurry at times.

For the money it is not the best value.  :(

I prefer Samsung first and then Dell. I mentioned the HP because you were looking at their 23" display.

I see you're using Cnet for your reviews, good choice. I always use reviews from owners as a gauge as well before I buy.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 06:48:00 PM
The Samsung was highly rated by consumers (less so by Cnet editors). 

The good: Fine image quality and color accuracy; highly adjustable; HDTV-ready; includes picture-in-picture; offers many image- and color-quality adjustments; features digital and analog ports, as well as inputs for S-Video, component video, and composite video.

The bad: Expensive; poor DVD-playback quality.

The bottom line: The wide-screen Samsung SyncMaster 244T delivers good color accuracy, but you can find better monitors for the money.

 :-\
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
I was outbid.  :'(

No hurry.  I’ll try again tomorrow.   I’d buy a new desktop too, but I’m waiting for Mac OS 10.5.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Slin1 on February 06, 2007, 06:59:19 PM
How big is your monitor?  I’m (ebay) bidding on a new 24” flat screen.  Can’t believe I’ve been using a 19” CRT all these years.  :-[

I have a 22" the price difference is pretty big the 2inches
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: a_joker10 on February 06, 2007, 07:12:06 PM
I use my 50" LCD projection at home and a little 20" widescreen monitor at work.

Get a high def. 1080p tv. It is cheaper than a monitor and you can get a 50" LCD for around $1700.

The bonus is speakers and a single set-up depending on your house.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 07:22:45 PM
I use my 50" LCD projection at home and a little 20" widescreen monitor at work.

Get a high def. 1080p tv. It is cheaper than a monitor and you can get a 50" LCD for around $1700.

The bonus is speakers and a single set-up depending on your house.

I’ve thought of that… in fact, the way this room is set up, I could use the monitor as a TV… if it had that functionality… but I’d be alternately using the monitor up close and watching the TV/monitor from across the room.  What widescreen monitors have displays and resolutions that are good for this kind of dual use?  Can you name three that I can research?  I'm thinking... Sony?
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: a_joker10 on February 06, 2007, 08:33:16 PM
I’ve thought of that… in fact, the way this room is set up, I could use the monitor as a TV… if it had that functionality… but I’d be alternately using the monitor up close and watching the TV/monitor from across the room.  What widescreen monitors have displays and resolutions that are good for this kind of duel use?  Can you name three that I can research?  I'm thinking... Sony?
I use a Sony, I also like Panosonics and some Toshibas. The big thing is make sure it is 1080p, 1080i will give you quite a bit of flicker as the refresh rates aren't fast enough.
I use 720p for that reason since my TV isn't a 1080p model.
I also have a separate small monitor that I use when I am using my computer for work, so I kind of cheat. I connect the TV through the DVI connection and the monitor through the VGA connection. To switch back and forth is only a click. I also use a wireless keyboard so I only have to move my keyboard around.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: BayGBM on February 06, 2007, 08:47:57 PM
I use a Sony, I also like Panosonics and some Toshibas. The big thing is make sure it is 1080p, 1080i will give you quite a bit of flicker as the refresh rates aren't fast enough.
I use 720p for that reason since my TV isn't a 1080p model.
I also have a separate small monitor that I use when I am using my computer for work, so I kind of cheat. I connect the TV through the DVI connection and the monitor through the VGA connection. To switch back and forth is only a click. I also use a wireless keyboard so I only have to move my keyboard around.

What Sony do you have?  Does it offer picture in picture mode & USB ports?
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 09:05:03 PM
I’ve thought of that… in fact, the way this room is set up, I could use the monitor as a TV… if it had that functionality… but I’d be alternately using the monitor up close and watching the TV/monitor from across the room.  What widescreen monitors have displays and resolutions that are good for this kind of dual use?  Can you name three that I can research?  I'm thinking... Sony?

You could also just buy a tuner card and turn your computer into a media center, with a HD antenna you could even pick up local Hi Def. channels. While using your tv for a computer monitor is great for certain things I find it annoying for other things like text documents and excel files.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: a_joker10 on February 06, 2007, 09:12:34 PM
What Sony do you have?  Does it offer picture in picture mode & USB ports?

My TV is a Sony KF50WE620 rear projection LCD. I absolutely love the picture and it is great for playing HD content.
It is an older set though I purchased it in 2003.

There are no USB ports on the TV, but my work around was to buy a USB Hub that allows the connects for up to 7 USB devices at the same time. It was cheap around $50.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: a_joker10 on February 06, 2007, 09:16:27 PM
You could also just buy a tuner card and turn your computer into a media center, with a HD antenna you could even pick up local Hi Def. channels. While using your tv for a computer monitor is great for certain things I find it annoying for other things like text documents and excel files.

I agree with some of this working on Documents is an inconvience.
But movies and games are way better.

A media center is ok for certain things as well, but you can't surf, or at least I haven't seen any products that connects to the internet and you can't play your computer games through media center. Media centers are good for streaming video content though, but you might be limited to WMV movies and other oddities as well.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 09:23:31 PM
I agree with some of this working on Documents is an inconvience.
But movies and games are way better.

A media center is ok for certain things as well, but you can't surf, or at least I haven't seen any products that connects to the internet and you can't play your computer games through media center. Media centers are good for streaming video content though, but you might be limited to WMV movies and other oddities as well.

I'm not so sure you and I are talking about the same thing, I'm not talking about an HTPC. Are you familiar with internal tuner cards? They turn your computer into a television. You can do everything you could always do on the computer just add the ability to watch television.

So you could watch ESPN and surf the web at the same time. Or watch Food TV and work on a Word file at the same time.

I'm a big proponent of the Samsung HL-S series of DLP. My favorite being the HL-S6188W, as far as bang for the buck goes it simply can't be beat. They also make the HL-S6187W which is about $500 cheaper but it lacks PIP/POP, a QAM tuner, Firewire and USB ports.

You're right about movies and games on a large screen 1080p television being better. Although there are certain monitors whose native resolution can go higher than 1920 x 1080 so the picture could be crisper and in turn better on certain intensive pc games.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: 240 is Back on February 06, 2007, 09:50:58 PM
if you had to have two 19-inch flatscreens.... or one 22-inch flat screen...


what would you choose?
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 06, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
if you had to have two 19-inch flatscreens.... or one 22-inch flat screen...


what would you choose?

I'd prefer the 22" over the dual setup. I'm not a big fan of dual monitors plus you'd need a dual DVI graphics card to connect them both digitally.

The interesting thing is that you can buy two decent 19" LCD's for about the same price as one 22" LCD.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2007, 09:55:56 PM
if you had to have two 19-inch flatscreens.... or one 22-inch flat screen...


what would you choose?

22''
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: gtbro1 on February 07, 2007, 12:08:36 AM
LMAO...I only have a 15" lcd.  :-\ good enough for me.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: the shadow on February 07, 2007, 03:05:06 AM
LMAO...I only have a 15" lcd.  :-\ good enough for me.
hahahhaha poor bastard..ahahahhaahahaha h ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2007, 03:59:10 AM
I was outbid.  :'(

No hurry.  I’ll try again tomorrow.   I’d buy a new desktop too, but I’m waiting for Mac OS 10.5.

You're definitely a homo. Mac is for hippies and fags.

Do you limit your desktop hardware vendors to Apple because of this? What a fucking joke... ::)
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: a_joker10 on February 07, 2007, 06:19:50 AM
I'm not so sure you and I are talking about the same thing, I'm not talking about an HTPC. Are you familiar with internal tuner cards? They turn your computer into a television. You can do everything you could always do on the computer just add the ability to watch television.

So you could watch ESPN and surf the web at the same time. Or watch Food TV and work on a Word file at the same time.

I'm a big proponent of the Samsung HL-S series of DLP. My favorite being the HL-S6188W, as far as bang for the buck goes it simply can't be beat. They also make the HL-S6187W which is about $500 cheaper but it lacks PIP/POP, a QAM tuner, Firewire and USB ports.

You're right about movies and games on a large screen 1080p television being better. Although there are certain monitors whose native resolution can go higher than 1920 x 1080 so the picture could be crisper and in turn better on certain intensive pc games.

Your right I was thinking about a media center box. Those are crappy. An HD tuner card is a good purchase. Especially since it is easier to rip programs and you can use your hardware to save content.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Bluto on February 07, 2007, 06:23:20 AM
I'm using a 17" from '99 or so. If you can come up with one legitimate reason for me to get another monitor I'm willing to listen, so far I can't think of a reason to switch.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: davidpaul on February 07, 2007, 06:29:13 AM
dell 3007wfp 30 inch widescreen, @ 2560 by 1600, being powered by two shitty 7950 gtxs (wish i a had waited and got the 8800's) in sli.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Bluto on February 07, 2007, 06:52:07 AM
just the thought of seeing some of the pictures onlyme posts on a larger screen scares the hell outta me, it's bad enough as it is  :-\
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 07, 2007, 06:53:52 AM
dell 3007wfp 30 inch widescreen, @ 2560 by 1600, being powered by two shitty 7950 gtxs (wish i a had waited and got the 8800's) in sli.

Wow, beautiful monitor. And you're right, the 8800's are king of the hill but they're also expensive as hell and two of them in SLI would be outrageously expensive.  Although considering the monitor you're using that's probably not an issue for you.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: davidpaul on February 07, 2007, 06:58:18 AM
Wow, beautiful monitor. And you're right, the 8800's are king of the hill but they're also expensive as hell and two of them in SLI would be outrageously expensive.  Although considering the monitor you're using that's probably not an issue for you.

im gonna replace my whole tower in around 6-12 months, when vista and direct 10 are rolling basically.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Bluto on February 07, 2007, 06:59:03 AM
Does Getbig look better with one of them expensive and fancy monitors? Let me know
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 07, 2007, 07:12:20 AM
im gonna replace my whole tower in around 6-12 months, when vista and direct 10 are rolling basically.

Vista is rolling now and if you buy the 8800's then D10 will be too. In less than a year there'll be quad core desktop CPU's available that will blazing.

12 months from right now will be a good time to build an insane rig.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2007, 07:31:51 AM
Vista is rolling now and if you buy the 8800's then D10 will be too. In less than a year there'll be quad core desktop CPU's available that will blazing.

12 months from right now will be a good time to build an insane rig.

Isn't there a new DX10 coming from ATI which will blow the 8800 out of the water?

Quad core is already here is it not?

Intel have a new fab creating system in the pipline with 45nm CPU's, THAT'S when it will start getting insane ;D

Bring on 64 core CPU's!
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Bluto on February 07, 2007, 07:53:14 AM
im outta this thread. too many nerds.  ::)
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 07, 2007, 09:41:40 AM
Isn't there a new DX10 coming from ATI which will blow the 8800 out of the water?

Quad core is already here is it not?

Intel have a new fab creating system in the pipline with 45nm CPU's, THAT'S when it will start getting insane ;D

Bring on 64 core CPU's!

Yes, but I think the quad core CPU's on the market now are designed for servers. I don't think the desktop or mobile versions have been released yet.
Also those quad core chips aren't true quad cores. There are 4 cores but they're on two chips I believe, so technically they're not true quad cores.

I'm waiting for AMD to rebound, they got the shit kicked out of them when Intel released the Core 2 Duo. They should be releasing something amazing in the next year or so. AMD isn't used to loosing the performance battle with Intel, they were badly embarrassed.

If I remember correctly in the future Intel is going to go below 45 nm's. I think to 35 nm's and maybe even as low as 25 but I might be wrong on that.

When you say 64 are you talking about the number of cores that can be theoretically placed on one chip? I read somewhere that at least in theory the number of cores on a single chip will grow by leaps and bounds, I just can't remember if the number they used was 64 or not.

Yes, ATI is releasing the R600 but not until the fourth quarter of 07, that's a whole year after the 8800 hit the market.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: freespirit on February 07, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
17" acer.   :-\
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2007, 10:48:38 AM
Yes, but I think the quad core CPU's on the market now are designed for servers. I don't think the desktop or mobile versions have been released yet.
Also those quad core chips aren't true quad cores. There are 4 cores but they're on two chips I believe, so technically they're not true quad cores.

I'm waiting for AMD to rebound, they got the shit kicked out of them when Intel released the Core 2 Duo. They should be releasing something amazing in the next year or so. AMD isn't used to loosing the performance battle with Intel, they were badly embarrassed.

If I remember correctly in the future Intel is going to go below 45 nm's. I think to 35 nm's and maybe even as low as 25 but I might be wrong on that.

When you say 64 are you talking about the number of cores that can be theoretically placed on one chip? I read somewhere that at least in theory the number of cores on a single chip will grow by leaps and bounds, I just can't remember if the number they used was 64 or not.

Yes, ATI is releasing the R600 but not until the fourth quarter of 07, that's a whole year after the 8800 hit the market.

Firstly, being a fanboy of any brand (in your case AMD) is stupid. You're telling me, you'll pay more for an inferior product because you adore AMD? ::) Come on now, grow the fuck up...

Pound for pound, Intel beats AMD so badly in this round it's not even funny. Intels 45nm fabrication process is a year ahead of IBM and AMD's. That means more transistors per CPU, more CPU's per wafer, thus cheaper and faster, less energy hungry CPU's from Intel.

There are quad cores available in the non-Xeon niche, but yeah you're right, they're basically 2 dual core CPU's glued together.

I was actually joking about 64 cores, but... I do believe Intel produced a proof of concept CPU with 64 cores. 64 cores isn't the limit, the limit is determined by how much these technology companies can shrink the CPU dies.

You're probably correct about the graphics cards. Certainly nvidia pulled out the can of whoopass with the 8800.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on February 07, 2007, 12:33:06 PM
Firstly, being a fanboy of any brand (in your case AMD) is stupid. You're telling me, you'll pay more for an inferior product because you adore AMD? ::) Come on now, grow the f**k up...

Pound for pound, Intel beats AMD so badly in this round it's not even funny. Intels 45nm fabrication process is a year ahead of IBM and AMD's. That means more transistors per CPU, more CPU's per wafer, thus cheaper and faster, less energy hungry CPU's from Intel.

There are quad cores available in the non-Xeon niche, but yeah you're right, they're basically 2 dual core CPU's glued together.

I was actually joking about 64 cores, but... I do believe Intel produced a proof of concept CPU with 64 cores. 64 cores isn't the limit, the limit is determined by how much these technology companies can shrink the CPU dies.

You're probably correct about the graphics cards. Certainly nvidia pulled out the can of whoopass with the 8800.

Ouch Nordie, looks like I hit on a sore subject for you.

I like AMD because they've consistently performed equal to or better than Intel and they're nearly always less expensive. Of course that's not the case now with the Core 2 Duo, AMD was caught napping. Nothing sadder than some clown getting bent out of shape over an AMD and Intel discussion, what a tool.  ::)

And of course I'm right the quad cores aren't true quad cores but Intel is supposed to release their true quad sometime later this year. If the Core 2 Duo is any indication it should be a killer chip. As I mentioned in the other post Intel is believed to be going even smaller than 45 nm's, if and when that happens chips will really take off. How does a 24 core chip sound? Pretty damn good.

I'm still laughing that your panties got all twisted because I mentioned AMD. LOL
I haven't seen one of those outbursts since the last time I was on AnandTech's board more than a year ago.  ;D
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: davidpaul on February 07, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
I know vista is out etc, wanna wait for the next gen grafx cards ,a get a whole new dx10 setup- ill par around 1500-2000 for a new box

btw ieffin my 3007wfp cost 1500 pounds 8/9 months ago, u can get it for just over a grand now. :'(


 Cyrsis should be sick.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2007, 01:51:37 PM
Ouch Nordie, looks like I hit on a sore subject for you.

I like AMD because they've consistently performed equal to or better than Intel and they're nearly always less expensive. Of course that's not the case now with the Core 2 Duo, AMD was caught napping. Nothing sadder than some clown getting bent out of shape over an AMD and Intel discussion, what a tool.  ::)

And of course I'm right the quad cores aren't true quad cores but Intel is supposed to release their true quad sometime later this year. If the Core 2 Duo is any indication it should be a killer chip. As I mentioned in the other post Intel is believed to be going even smaller than 45 nm's, if and when that happens chips will really take off. How does a 24 core chip sound? Pretty damn good.

I'm still laughing that your panties got all twisted because I mentioned AMD. LOL
I haven't seen one of those outbursts since the last time I was on AnandTech's board more than a year ago.  ;D

lol cock... my outburst was on fanboyism. My laptop is a shitty old AMD64 based machine, and most of the servers at work are Opteron based. AMD has a superior cost per Mhz atm, and Intel has performance market niche. Intel I think is the more evil of the companies too...
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: davidpaul on February 07, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
lol cock... my outburst was on fanboyism. My laptop is a shitty old AMD64 based machine, and most of the servers at work are Opteron based. AMD has a superior cost per Mhz atm, and Intel has performance market niche. Intel I think is the more evil of the companies too...

there rivalry has a doe a lot of good

like the ati the nvidea, the new ati x2000 series look to eb somethign special, though they are playing catch up bigtime.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: gtbro1 on February 08, 2007, 01:31:54 AM
I'm using a 17" from '99 or so. If you can come up with one legitimate reason for me to get another monitor I'm willing to listen, so far I can't think of a reason to switch.


That's what I'm saying...I can see this screen just fine.
Title: Re: How big is your monitor?
Post by: bmacsys on February 08, 2007, 03:17:14 PM
23" Apple Cinema Display.