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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on February 08, 2007, 08:03:01 AM
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My Buddy is on week six of a Test-E, Deca ... cycle. This is his 3rd cycle but first since leaving college. He is dedicated as shit. He eats well and trains real hard. He is getting nervous now about whispers at work about how big he has gotten and is worried that his work might make him take a drug test. We talk and his only two options are to work out lighter or end the cycle.
Is it safe to just stop cold turkey, should he just start his PCT and stop the gear? I don't blame him though, he is starting to look massive now and it was fine in college but in a work office the rumour mill starts real fast.
Any recomendations would be great.
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Man that sucks TOO big fuck! I'v gotten worst sides not from HIGH doses, but from letting my levels
CRASH (stupid doctors advice fuck him, never again) . Id taper fast & pct. Get a New Job?
How 'bout dropin water and get real Hard instead of mass?
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Weird... What kind of job is going to up and test him for AAS? I think it would be extremely rare that an employer would have that kind of test ran on him.
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They have been known to drug test, never for AAS but for street drugs. It could just be paranoia but he works in a white collar office location. He was the shit back in college, big ripped and it was cool then. He came down in size over the years but still workedout but the diet wasn't top notch. Muscle memory is a great thing and he seemed to have bounced back but all of a sudden dude's forearms have road map veins and he can't wear a sweater to work everyday to cover up.
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Weird... What kind of job is going to up and test him for AAS? I think it would be extremely rare that an employer would have that kind of test ran on him.
and against the law... employers CAN do a random test on someone for drugs with REASONABLE SUSPSION,,,, but, an employee being musculay is not reasonable suspision...he would have to be exhibiting some foul or violent behavior...you can just up an test someone because they are muscular...thats clearly a violation of his civil rights
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My Buddy is on week six of a Test-E, Deca ... cycle. This is his 3rd cycle but first since leaving college. He is dedicated as shit. He eats well and trains real hard. He is getting nervous now about whispers at work about how big he has gotten and is worried that his work might make him take a drug test. We talk and his only two options are to work out lighter or end the cycle.
Is it safe to just stop cold turkey, should he just start his PCT and stop the gear? I don't blame him though, he is starting to look massive now and it was fine in college but in a work office the rumour mill starts real fast.
Any recomendations would be great.
you guys kill me with this "buddy" shit ----hell, its obvious you are asking for yourself. Why wouldnt your "buddy" just post? You guys make me LMFAO because you are always afraid of getting ridiculed so you play like you are asking for a friend ...ahh !! haa!!! Ha!! ha ha ha ...hee!! hee!!
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How long-how much? Allways taper down/off in order of suppressive qualities of the collection.
And,We all know what Deca does on its lonesome. I never used any Tren, I dont talk what I dont know.
Sounds same Deca though. If size is FreakN the Weak, drop some water.
"Cold Turkey off a big load is the worst thing you can do for sideeffects. I dont care what anyone says. You want gyno & the worst case of zits on earth & some strange skin probs? - Go for that. Fill me in. I know that story.
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There's absolutely no sense in just quitting now.. the Test E and Deca will still be detectable for a good 6 months in his system (esp. the Deca) so it won't really matter.. if anything just tell him not to eat as much and train as much.
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There's absolutely no sense in just quitting now.. the Test E and Deca will still be detectable for a good 6 months in his system (esp. the Deca) so it won't really matter.. if anything just tell him not to eat as much and train as much.
That's my thought. Continue for 6 more weeks and then start a good PCT and I also told him to do lots of cardio to sweat out the water.
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you guys kill me with this "buddy" shit ----hell, its obvious you are asking for yourself. Why wouldnt your "buddy" just post? You guys make me LMFAO because you are always afraid of getting ridiculed so you play like you are asking for a friend ...ahh !! haa!!! Ha!! ha ha ha ...hee!! hee!!
lol, it is my buddy. Not everyone wants to post online. I am not afraid to ask questions for myself. Like I mentioned I told him to ease up on his workouts and not lift like a maniac each time. The change in size is pretty dramatic. Like I said it is a mixture of the AAS and the muscle memory. Shit even without AAS, if he was eating and working out the same he'd be gaining weight fast.
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Oh yes, CaptnEQ is so right! Talk about overlook the obvious. Deca gonna score a test result for a long time,
if thats a COMPETITION concern. Not too hard to find a legal indication for some Deca though.
WTFs the test 4? Plenty good Legal reasons to use Deca. Lose the law breaker fear. They still handN it out w/ out a face to face for awhile. And, I bet, next election there gonna be some house cleaning in the pertinant agencies. Yes.
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There's absolutely no sense in just quitting now.. the Test E and Deca will still be detectable for a good 6 months in his system (esp. the Deca) so it won't really matter.. if anything just tell him not to eat as much and train as much.
Excellent point(s).
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and against the law... employers CAN do a random test on someone for drugs with REASONABLE SUSPSION,,,, but, an employee being musculay is not reasonable suspision...he would have to be exhibiting some foul or violent behavior...you can just up an test someone because they are muscular...thats clearly a violation of his civil rights
Nice post. You're right though. Just because someone bulks up a little doesn't mean he's on steroids. If he's not showing the classic "roid rage" bullshit symptoms why would they suspect anything?
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who gives a shit if he wants to stop then stop he's not getting drug tested for AAS and if he was so worried about it maybe he shouldnt have started it.maybe he just can handle being pinned.what a pussy.
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Ok, now it's time for my own original thoughts on this matter. I don't see why he should stop. If anything it's none of their business what he's doing with his time outside of work (statements like that from others could & would constitute slander & could in theory hurt him at work). My only recommendation would be to maybe up his doseage of A-dex & maybe take a mild durietic. This way it would eliminate some of his water retention & he might look a little smaller.
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They are NOT going to test for AAS, despite the fact that someone scared him a bit. Itīs just people being jealous, nothing new, donīt sweat it.
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Know what? BBs look FAT in a suit! Just wear a suit & if they pull anything sue 'em for discrimination
about your weight.
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Nice post. You're right though. Just because someone bulks up a little doesn't mean he's on steroids. If he's not showing the classic "roid rage" bullshit symptoms why would they suspect anything?
And if that's the way someone's acting, they don't need to test to guy to fire him. If dude is going nuts in the office, they're not going to say, "hey, we should AAS test Davis, he tossed his desk over the cubical again..." lol :D
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NEVER FUCK UP A GOOD MASS CYCLE THEY TOO HARD TOO COME BY!
New JOB?
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WTF?? Whose fuc*in' business is it anyway? Does his job have a written policy on AAS? I doubt it!
No sense stopping the cycle--as has been said, these compounds will linger for many months, and deca for very long, even up to 18 months.
I have gone through this over the past 2 years as well. Just deny as always. It's no one's business. Who is to say he didn't have a prescription?
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Thats right DENY! Watch some old film of Nixon, there was a pro with denial.
Why the fuck people just dont be 100% straight with a question to start with?
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WTF?? Whose fuc*in' business is it anyway? Does his job have a written policy on AAS? I doubt it!
No sense stopping the cycle--as has been said, these compounds will linger for many months, and deca for very long, even up to 18 months.
I have gone through this over the past 2 years as well. Just deny as always. It's no one's business. Who is to say he didn't have a prescription?
freak, being a doctor you know damn well they cant just up and test the guy for bulking up...thats a lawsuit because it is violation of his civil rights..ther must be REASONABLE SUSPICION or it is unconstitutional.......i n other words----- an employer cant all the sudden test a person for marijuana because he is black and has dread locks.....or, they cant test a girl for cocaine because she lost alot of weight.....SAME PRINCIPLE....
they can not just test us for steroids because we have muscle....what if the test was negative----law suit--law suit--law suit---
the guy has nothing nothing nothing nothing to worry about
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Weird... What kind of job is going to up and test him for AAS? I think it would be extremely rare that an employer would have that kind of test ran on him.
Concur.
No such thing as a universal drug test.
They'd have to administer specific tests to detect it, and most companies do not implement IOC testing procedures.
Although I once knew a guy who claimed he was staying off anabolics because HIS job could/would test for AAS. He was an elementary school teacher.
Nice guy, but he was also a notorious bullshitter, so take his claim for what it's worth.
It could easily have been a copout resulting from not wanting to jab himself with a needle or risk buying the stuff.
And I've never heard of any other employer testing for AAS.
I would just tell your buddy don't lose any sleep over it.
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freak, being a doctor you know damn well they cant just up and test the guy for bulking up...thats a lawsuit because it is violation of his civil rights..ther must be REASONABLE SUSPICION or it is unconstitutional.......
they can not just test us for steroids because we have muscle....what if the test was negative----law suit--law suit--law suit---
the guy has nothing nothing nothing nothing to worry about
If you are suddenly gaining huge amounts of muscle, there is reasonable suspicion that you are using AAS. The fact that his whole office is talking about it confirms that reasonable suspicion. Unless you are a professional athlete, use of AAS by someone in the standard workplace affords them no competitive advantage, and so would not likely be part of a company's policy or concern.
He needs to know, though, how the company's policy on this reads, and how AAS fit into that policy if at all. Aside from that, he certainly should not keep his illegally-obtained vials at the workplace.
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use of AAS by someone in the standard workplace affords them no competitive advantage, and so would not likely be part of a company's policy or concern.
He needs to know, though, how the company's policy on this reads, and how AAS fit into that policy if at all.
im sure they could lump it into a policy that outlines use of illegal substances...if he doesnt have a script. they could say it "disrupts" the workplace because everyone is talking about it...
...its a stretch, but you never know.
if he did get fired over it, im sure a lawsuit could be at hand.....but who has the time and money for that.
tell your buddy to put empy bottles of creatine all over his work area.....if anyone asks any questions regarding to his increase in size...tell him to simply reply with a "youre fat....or....youre skinny"...and then continue to work.
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Ok, now it's time for my own original thoughts on this matter. I don't see why he should stop. If anything it's none of their business what he's doing with his time outside of work (statements like that from others could & would constitute slander & could in theory hurt him at work). My only recommendation would be to maybe up his doseage of A-dex & maybe take a mild durietic. This way it would eliminate some of his water retention & he might look a little smaller.
Actually Rimbaud, this is not true. Company's can fire you for drugs, even if you only do them at home. There have been some stroeis about company's firing people for smoking even though they only do that at home. As for AAS, its ILLEGAL DRUGS. So yes, the company can test you. Just like they can if they suspected you smoke weed or drank on the job. Remember, in corporate America, YOU ARE THE BITCH OF THE COMPANY. They own you, your email, your personal messages etc... It is BS, but that's just the way it is.
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YOu could look into getN a script. Pull a blootest post cycle w/ out PCT & you will prob be low
enough to prescribe. Lots of online HRT docs will write as long as you dont test above range.
THen, youD have a 100% legal "indication". And ,all the amo for a winning law suit if fired.
I Dont think it 'd be hard get a Atty take that one on contingency if you got fired then.
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Actually Rimbaud, this is not true. Company's can fire you for drugs, even if you only do them at home. There have been some stroeis about company's firing people for smoking even though they only do that at home. As for AAS, its ILLEGAL DRUGS. So yes, the company can test you. Just like they can if they suspected you smoke weed or drank on the job. Remember, in corporate America, YOU ARE THE BITCH OF THE COMPANY. They own you, your email, your personal messages etc... It is BS, but that's just the way it is.
True they can fire you for what you do outside of work - notice I said it was my original thoughts on the matter. It is/was also my opinion that what you do outside of company time is your business. That's not to say they don't make it their business. In some companies it could fall under conduct unbecoming.
either way I still don't think he should stop.
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Concur.
No such thing as a universal drug test.
They'd have to administer specific tests to detect it, and most companies do not implement IOC testing procedures.
Although I once knew a guy who claimed he was staying off anabolics because HIS job could/would test for AAS. He was an elementary school teacher.
Nice guy, but he was also a notorious bullshitter, so take his claim for what it's worth.
It could easily have been a copout resulting from not wanting to jab himself with a needle or risk buying the stuff.
And I've never heard of any other employer testing for AAS.
I would just tell your buddy don't lose any sleep over it.
This is 100% true! I work as a Unemployment Claims Adjudicator and I can honestly say you have NOTHING to worry about. An employer can administer a drug test at any time they see fit.... as long as it states this in there policy- Futher more, they would test him for things like cocaine, meth, & cannabis metabolites, NOT anabolic steroids. Reason being; too costly for the employer to have more extensive blood work done.
The only way they can fire you is if you screw up a bunch, OR you live in an "At will" state. Depending on what state you live in, an employer can not let you go unless they have a sufficient reason. If you live in a state that has adopted the "At will" law, they can let you go for any reason, at any time and they never have to give you a reason as to why your being let go.
hope this help, Rigs
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yea if this is a white collar place i dont think there goin to test him. its just the smaller cubicle pencil necks gettin jealous. i like the idea of puttin creatine bottles around his desk area. so what if hes dedicated to nutrition....... the deca alone will stay in your system for at least 6 months..... if he really wants to quit then swap to prop for last 2 weeks then begin pct....
eat less, train less, more cardio .... it sucks when jealous people start rumors around the job site.
it even happened to me, at a construction site, of course i was on gear but still, it doesent take much for people to notice huge gains
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If he's worried and thinks people are starting to talk, then it must be interfering with his work. So when his work starts getting sloppy they will ask him what's going on, and if his priorties are in the right place, so If it's on his conscious then he should taper off and follow up with proper pct. Just tell him he has not lost it, and he's doing the right thing.
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what the name of the company Ill tell you if they test for aas or not.Ill call them and ask for you.
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If he's really that worried, have him get a prescription from an online doctor, if they ask anything all he has to do is present the script and he's fine . Should cost him $20 at the most, most likely free.
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If he's worried and thinks people are starting to talk, then it must be interfering with his work.
Possible.
But the talking could also simply be a result of jealousy.
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i work in heavy engineering and we get breathalised and drug tested all the time, they only test for street drugs so he's fine,,,, i would add if they send him for a medical to drop his doasage right down, they will ask questions if his blood pressure is sky high and he's big as a house
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My Buddy is on week six of a Test-E, Deca ... cycle. This is his 3rd cycle but first since leaving college. He is dedicated as shit. He eats well and trains real hard. He is getting nervous now about whispers at work about how big he has gotten and is worried that his work might make him take a drug test. We talk and his only two options are to work out lighter or end the cycle.
Is it safe to just stop cold turkey, should he just start his PCT and stop the gear? I don't blame him though, he is starting to look massive now and it was fine in college but in a work office the rumour mill starts real fast.
Any recomendations would be great.
What type of work does he do?
That will determine what his options are.
If it's just an office job and people start rumors, that won't matter.
If it's a government job, he should probably be concerned because you aren't allowed to use AAS with that type of employment.
DIV
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What type of work does he do?
That will determine what his options are.
If it's just an office job and people start rumors, that won't matter.
If it's a government job, he should probably be concerned because you aren't allowed to use AAS with that type of employment.
DIV
Agreed.
BTW - Welcome back.