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Story coming out now. No telling if its true yet or will be corroborated as more come fwd. At the very least, we'd want to as larry Silverstein why he claimed "fire damage" when he collected $480m for WTC 7
A New Jersey EMT has gone public on how emergency workers were told that Building 7 was going to be "pulled," before a 20 second demolition countdown broadcast over radio preceded its collapse. The ground zero rescue worker also blows the whistle on how he witnessed multiple underground support columns of the WTC towers that had been severed before the buildings imploded.
New Jersey Emergency Medical Technician asked "how could someone have rigged all these explosives?" before towers collapsed, support columns had been blown out
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, February 8, 2007
A New Jersey EMT has gone public on how emergency workers were told that Building 7 was going to be "pulled," before a 20 second demolition countdown broadcast over radio preceded its collapse. The ground zero rescue worker also blows the whistle on how he witnessed multiple underground support columns of the WTC towers that had been severed before the buildings imploded.
In a letter to Loose Change producer Dylan Avery, the individual who wishes to remain anonymous refering to himself only as Mike, 30, NJ, describes how he has repeatedly tried to alert numerous authorities to what he saw on 9/11 but was ignored or told to "shut up" on every occasion, and ultimately fired for disorderly conduct.
The EMT now dismisses the official government explanation of events and slams the 9/11 commission as a "whitewash."
Having been in his profession for six years, the individual states that he was at ground zero before, during and after the collapse. He was forced to flee from the falling towers and take cover under a bus shelter as debris rained down all around him, leaving his lungs poisoned today with the toxic dust that 9/11 heroes were exposed to as a result of a cover-up on behalf of Condoleezza Rice and the EPA that assured workers ground zero air was safe to breathe.
The EMT made the decision to make his claims public after becoming aggrieved at how 9/11 debunkers were viciously attacking the creators of Loose Change for questioning the events of 9/11 in their film, which has now aired on numerous international television stations and has been seen by millions on the Internet.
In his enthralling testimony, the EMT goes into graphic detail of how he and others personally witnessed a plethora of explosions at all points of the buildings before their collapse.
"There were explosions. There were flashes. There was molten metal running down the I-beams of the basement levels like lava flows. I've never seen anything like it. Yes, planes hit the buildings - anybody who says otherwise is a moron. But the explosions - the rapid, symmetrical, sequential explosions - they happened," states 'Mike'.
He explains how he and others were in the basement of one of the towers helping injured victims when he saw "One of the huge steel and concrete support pillars with an 8 foot section blown out of the center of it." Looking around, Mike saw other support columns that were in the same condition, prompting rescue personal to ask "how could someone have rigged all these explosives?"
"We stood outside listening to the explosions," states Mike, "One after the other, every minute or so. At one point, about 10 minutes before the first collapse, a 30 foot or so section of the courtyard exploded straight up into the air. Just before the collapses, a series of deep, below ground explosions, then numerous explosions in the buildings upper floors. Then we ran. We felt the same deep explosions before the second collapse. This was not just the planes."
The rescue worker concludes emphatically, "The buildings were rigged, there is no question about it."
Perhaps of even more interest, the EMT relates the fact that hundreds of emergency rescue personnel were told over bullhorns that Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper adjacent the twin towers that was not hit by a plane yet imploded symmetrically later in the afternoon on 9/11, was about to be "pulled" and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse.
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But Rob... I don't care about the facts and what eyewitnesses saw.
The gov't says it was 19 Saudis with box cutters that brought that building down, so even though everything about it defy's the laws of physics and common sense, ...I'm gonna be like Britney Spears and believe EVERYTHING Bush says, 'cause he's the commander in chief, ...and would never lie to the American people right? :P
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Perhaps they should closer examine the audio just before collapse, on the recordings, to see if indeed there was some sort of countdown. He said bullhorns - that audio should show up somewhere.
It would be INCREDIBLE if there was a countdown, and people still argued there was no controlled demolition.
Also incredible would be any claim that the building was quietly wired as it burned that day.
The only possibility would be pre-wiring. Why would they pre-wire a federal building for demolition, then lie about it and collect half a billion $?
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I'm gonna be like Britney Spears and believe EVERYTHING Bush says, 'cause he's the commander in chief, ...and would never lie to the American people right? :P
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Perhaps they should closer examine the audio just before collapse, on the recordings, to see if indeed there was some sort of countdown. He said bullhorns - that audio should show up somewhere.
It would be INCREDIBLE if there was a countdown, and people still argued there was no controlled demolition.
Also incredible would be any claim that the building was quietly wired as it burned that day.
The only possibility would be pre-wiring. Why would they pre-wire a federal building for demolition, then lie about it and collect half a billion $?
I heard someone (maybe on getbig) say lots of Federal Buildings are wired with explosives when their built.
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I heard someone (maybe on getbig) say lots of Federal Buildings are wired with explosives when their built.
Yes, 9/11 was planned over 50 years ago knowing Bush would be President on that precise time and day........they have been holding that conspiracy since he was 6 ::)!!
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Yes, 9/11 was planned over 50 years ago knowing Bush would be President on that precise time and day........they have been holding that conspiracy since he was 6 ::)!!
I wasn't saying it was true, I though it was funny. Settle down... ROFL
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Think about a horse than breaks it's leg...sometimes it's better to kill the animal than to try to repair the leg.
That would be similar to the reasons why someone might purposely blow up a building that was severely damaged by another cause.
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Think about a horse than breaks it's leg...sometimes it's better to kill the animal than to try to repair the leg.
That would be similar to the reasons why someone might purposely blow up a building that was severely damaged by another cause.
Hmmm....Tre we agree. Good post.
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this board was a lot better when it was 911 free for 6 days
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who is this clown,, he didnt testify,, and he's 6 years too late.. and "pulled" is what firefighters say when you have to clear a building.
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Think about a horse than breaks it's leg...sometimes it's better to kill the animal than to try to repair the leg.
That would be similar to the reasons why someone might purposely blow up a building that was severely damaged by another cause.
One problem. It would be logistically impossible to wire Building 7 for a controlled demolition in the 5 hours it burned. First, most people won't carry c4 or dynamite into a burning building. Second, you need a permit. Third, the buildings contained many govt depts - FBI, CIA, SEC, Secret service, Mayor rudy, et. For owner silverstein to just decide to blow up all their shit in undamaged offices - nah. Plus he collected fire insurance for 480 mil. Felony there.
At the VERY VERY least, can we all agree that *IF* this man is telling the truth - and video shows there was a countdown to the collapse, that we need to reinvestigate Building 7 - if for fraud, if nothing else?
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who is this clown,, he didnt testify,, and he's 6 years too late.. and "pulled" is what firefighters say when you have to clear a building.
If the evidence shows it was a controlled demolition, do you support prosecuting Larry Silverstein for fraud to the tune of $480 million dollars? That's a felony. if you defend it, you defend crime.
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If the evidence shows it was a controlled demolition, do you support prosecuting Larry Silverstein for fraud to the tune of $480 million dollars? That's a felony. if you defend it, you defend crime.
is this like puff diddys "if you don't vote, you'll die"
nevermind 240 I don't want to argue ;)
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If the evidence shows it was a controlled demolition, do you support prosecuting Larry Silverstein for fraud to the tune of $480 million dollars? That's a felony. if you defend it, you defend crime.
Furthermore - kh300 - you have claimed to be a nypd police officer, correct? Let's think about this:
If Silverstein wired his building before 9/11 (likely, as doing it that day while on fire is not possible), then he blew them up committing a felony, let's get him on the stand.
He will then say 1) I wired it before for no reason, I committed fraud, lock me up, or 2) So-and-so told me to do it.
Either a felon goes to jail, or he points and whoever ordered/asked him to do it. Suddenly, with 2+ men conducting a crime, you have a conspiracy by definition. but you're a copy, you know that bro.
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You are a royal shit disturber 240.
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One problem. It would be logistically impossible to wire Building 7 for a controlled demolition in the 5 hours it burned. First, most people won't carry c4 or dynamite into a burning building. Second, you need a permit. Third, the buildings contained many govt depts - FBI, CIA, SEC, Secret service, Mayor rudy, et. For owner silverstein to just decide to blow up all their shit in undamaged offices - nah. Plus he collected fire insurance for 480 mil. Felony there.
At the VERY VERY least, can we all agree that *IF* this man is telling the truth - and video shows there was a countdown to the collapse, that we need to reinvestigate Building 7 - if for fraud, if nothing else?
dude,, i argued this shit with you for how long? at least you finally admit they couldnt plant explosives
now if they guy planted the explosives himeself? i cant understand how he could- the wtc's ran 24/7... they were full of people 24/7..
and get off the controlled demo thing, because like ive shown in videos before, a demolition of a 50 storie building would be heard in new jersey- but no bomb blasts were heard.
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but no bomb blasts were heard.
Will you bet $10,000?
For the 10th time, are you going to make me post the video clips or will you just google vid them yourself this time?
Do you have amnesia? You keep saying this, and we keep posting the vid clips.
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Third, the buildings contained many govt depts - FBI, CIA, SEC, Secret service
I didn't know that, but this is all the more reason for it to have been pre-rigged.
When you've got something to hide, you want to be able to destroy it quickly in the event of a breach.
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I didn't know that, but this is all the more reason for it to have been pre-rigged.
When you've got something to hide, you want to be able to destroy it quickly in the event of a breach.
The case against Enron was in that building, along with hundreds of other SEC investigations which oddly benefitted one party when destroyed.
This is what the building did after 6 hours of small fires. 47 stories of steel and concrete - vaporized in 6.5 seconds.
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Will you bet $10,000?
For the 10th time, are you going to make me post the video clips or will you just google vid them yourself this time?
Do you have amnesia? You keep saying this, and we keep posting the vid clips.
do i have amnesia? your whole life is based on saying the same 911 shit over and over.
you have that one piece of shit video, where you cant tell where they are or what they herd,, one load blast could have been anything. you have no video.. you'd make one hell of a prosecuter ::)
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The case against Enron was in that building...
There ya go right there.
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There ya go right there.
Motive.
Also, the plane or object that hit the pentagon... it coincidentally took out a group of people in accounting who - incredibly - worked on that 2.3 TRILLION dollars announced missing on Sept 10, 2001.
Yes, two trillion goes missing, it's announced in the afternoon, and when those in accounting arrive the next morning and meet to discuss, a plane kills them all at 9:32 am. (930 AM meeting, anyone?)
Are we still chalking this up to bad luck?
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240, at what point did you turn against the government and deem every action as wrong or evil? At what point do you realize that all this stuff you post is conjecture at best? I have a new mission for you. Why don't you prove the Pearl Harbor bombing was planned or tell us who really shot JFK or what Sirhan Sirhan's middle name is (assassins all go by three names).
Don't you know in a court of law, even eye witness testimony is taken with a grain of salt? Look at the FORD Pinto case in Indiana.
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The case against Enron was in that building, along with hundreds of other SEC investigations which oddly benefitted one party when destroyed.
This is what the building did after 6 hours of small fires. 47 stories of steel and concrete - vaporized in 6.5 seconds.
You are making things up.
The Enron case wasn't destroyed, neither were any other SEC trade investigations.
Most of the evidence in these cases were stored in other locations.
Plus there were digital back-ups for all data destroyed in WTC 7.
Motive.
Also, the plane or object that hit the pentagon... it coincidentally took out a group of people in accounting who - incredibly - worked on that 2.3 TRILLION dollars announced missing on Sept 10, 2001.
Yes, two trillion goes missing, it's announced in the afternoon, and when those in accounting arrive the next morning and meet to discuss, a plane kills them all at 9:32 am. (930 AM meeting, anyone?)
Are we still chalking this up to bad luck?
Now you are quoting Sandy. This evidence is not supported either, as I post the exact report 2 months ago.
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240, at what point did you turn against the government and deem every action as wrong or evil? At what point do you realize that all this stuff you post is conjecture at best? I have a new mission for you. Why don't you prove the Pearl Harbor bombing was planned or tell us who really shot JFK or what Sirhan Sirhan's middle name is (assassins all go by three names).
Congress admitted in the 70s that it was "probably" a conspiracy of people that killed JFK.
And I have debated many of these. Unless it comes from fox news, idiots here ignore info posted.
Don't you know in a court of law, even eye witness testimony is taken with a grain of salt?
Ah, re-read what I said. *IF* this man is telling the truth, the tapes (physical evidence) would show a 20, 19, 18... countdown which would show a lot.
And it seems people here take the pentagon story from eyewitness testimony alone. The physical evidence says a 125 ton plane converted to 400 pounds of junk, drilling a missile sized hole, and not showing up on any of the 80+ videotapes.
Weird that many here will just take the word of USA today employees who happened to be standing on the nearest 8 street corners at the time...
You need consistency. I think physical exam of metals at ground zero is needed, just like releasing the pentagon tapes.
Hell, you're an AMerican. If 3000 died and there's any chance bombs were used, you want to know, right?
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I'm not flaming you. I'm just pointing out that witness evidence is unreliable in many cases, that's why hard facts are sought after. I mean c'mon, JFK?
"Lee Harvey Oswald got off four shots with an Italian bolt action rifle in 6 seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot and do you know where these individuals learned to shoot?"
"Sir, in the Marines, Sir!"
"In the Marines, OUTSTANDING!!!"
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cap,
oswald supposedly only fired 3, by the warren commission, didn't he?
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cap,
oswald supposedly only fired 3, by the warren commission, didn't he?
I dunno, just quoting the movie. Lol. It is unlikely. I mean agreat sniper could do it but I don't know that he was one. In that time they (grunt Marines) were using M-14's as standard service rifles and those are not bolt action.
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I dunno, just quoting the movie. Lol. It is unlikely. I mean agreat sniper could do it but I don't know that he was one. In that time they (grunt Marines) were using M-14's as standard service rifles and those are not bolt action.
He fired 3. THere were many discrepencies with the bullets, the recordings (four rounds!), the secret service agents standing down, etc.
If you will watch the first 30 min, and still believe JFK was killed by Oswald, I'll paypal you $10!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4315024059102108031&q=jfk+assassination&hl=en