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Weird timing.
Updated: Feb. 12, 2007, 9:13 PM ET
Sources: Chargers head coach Schottenheimer firedESPN.com news services
Sources close to Marty Schottenheimer and the San Diego Chargers said the coach was fired by the team Monday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported.
Schottenheimer and Chargers general manager A.J. Smith have been having disagreements over staffing after losing a number of assistants. Dean Spanos, the team president, told Schottenheimer on Monday that it wasn't going to work between him and Smith.
Three days after the Chargers melted down in a stunning 24-21 playoff loss to New England, Spanos decided that bringing Schottenheimer back for the final year of his contract gave San Diego its best chance to win.
Schottenheimer, though, declined the team's offer of a one-year extension for 2008 worth $4.5 million, with a $1 million buyout.
"Right now, I wasn't comfortable accepting it," Schottenheimer told the Associated Press shortly after the season. He would have earned more than $3 million in 2007.
With a regular-season record of 200-126-1 with Cleveland, Kansas City, Washington and San Diego, Schottenheimer is the most successful coach never to have reached the Super Bowl.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2763552
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I was just about to post this....
Holy Crap, wow... Is this the dumbest mistake you've seen from a team? Their best season ever... Fire the coatch... LOL....
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wtf ???
how does this even make sense?
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Overdue. The team had no serious prospects with him, proved it with the bumbled home playoff loss. Assuming they already have someone else reasonable in mind.
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Tell me about it. I think this was the result of an ongoing struggle between Marty and the GM. Marty didn't agree with letting Brees go. Rivers was the GM's guy. Marty actually went public with his criticism. At the end of the day, if you cannot get along with someone who is higher up on the food chain, you have to find someplace else to work. Still a dumb move though.
But I have a buddy who is a die hard Chargers fan who hates Marty. Apparently a lot of Chargers fans don't like him. They'll be happy.
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Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer was fired Monday night in a shocking move by team president Dean Spanos, who cited a "dysfunctional situation" between the coach and general manager A.J. Smith.
Less than a month after San Diego's NFL-best 14-2 season was wrecked in a playoff loss to New England, Spanos cited the exodus of both coordinators and other assistants in firing Schottenheimer, who had a year left on his contact.
"The process of dealing with these coaching changes convinced me that we simply could not move forward with such dysfunction between our head coach and general manager," Spanos said in a statement. "In short, this entire process over the last month convinced me beyond any doubt that I had to act to change this untenable situation."
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Poor judgement, poor coaching:
-Letting Brees go.
-Bumbling a 14-2 season the very first playoff game - at home - the last few minutes!
-Calling LT the very best back in the history of the NFL... ::)
-Don't continue with a "dysfunctional" relationship with the GM after that bumbled playoff loss..
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-Letting Brees go.
-14-2 losing the very first playoff game at home!
-Calling LT the very best back in the history of the NFL... ::)
Marty had nothing to do with letting Brees go. He wanted to keep Brees. That was A.J. Smith's call.
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Schottenheimer is a chokster in the playoffs. This move was overdue. Not to mention the chargers lost both there offensive and defensive coordinators.
People act like this is the first time Marty has screwed up with an extremely talented team. The guy is 5 - 13 in the postseason. Marty has had talent up the wazu on his teams. The chargers dont need a great regular season record. They need someone who can take them to the next level. Marty have proven he is not that guy. He is a great coach, but his failures in the "big games" (aka playoffs) are quite evident.
I for one am crushed. As an AFC contender, we where all in love with the Idea of Marty coaching the chargers, with both his coordinators gone. I think the rest of the AFC felt the same.
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Marty had nothing to do with letting Brees go. He wanted to keep Brees. That was A.J. Smith's call.
The idea that a key trade's out of the coach's hands doesn't hold water to me. If Marty didn't want him to leave he could've taken a stand to ensure he stayed.
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Brilliant; he was offered a one-year extension after the playoff loss, which is more than fair considering the context, and said no:
Schottenheimer was offered a one-year contract extension through 2008 several days after the playoff loss, but he turned it down, unhappy with the terms, and knowing that a one-year extension would hardly make him more secure. Things became more tenuous for Schottenheimer when his top two assistants left after the season to become head coaches. Cam Cameron, the offensive coordinator, was hired as coach of the Dolphins on Jan. 19, and the defensive coordinator Wade Phillips was hired last week as coach of the Cowboys.
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The idea that a key trade's out of the coach's hands doesn't hold water to me. If Marty didn't want him to leave he could've taken a stand to ensure he stayed.
It wasn't a trade. They let Brees walk. I'll find the link to the story, but I specifically recall reading about the power struggle between Marty and A.J. Smith, including the decision to let Brees walk.
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It wasn't a trade. They let Brees walk. I'll find the link to the story, but I specifically recall reading about the power struggle between Marty and A.J. Smith, including the decision to let Brees walk.
dam rights the chargers not marty let brees walk
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Schottenheimer is a chokster in the playoffs.
Scottenheimer had the Chiefs in so many freaking playoff games and never managed to do jackshit.
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if they were going to fire him they should've done it a fucking month ago
the combine is just around the corner and there staff isn't even put together ::)
eli and archie were right this franchise is a joke
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It wasn't a trade. They let Brees walk. I'll find the link to the story, but I specifically recall reading about the power struggle between Marty and A.J. Smith, including the decision to let Brees walk.
Even worse, they got nothing.
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Even worse, they got nothing.
And it was A.J Smith who let him walk for nothing:
Bolts coach wonders if club's on same page
By Jim Trotter
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
February 26, 2006
Associated Press
While seemingly everyone else was offering an opinion on the Drew Brees situation the past few weeks, Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer was relatively quiet.
INDIANAPOLIS – While seemingly everyone else was offering an opinion on the Drew Brees situation the past few weeks, Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer was relatively quiet.
Not so yesterday.
Choosing his words carefully, and pausing at times to weigh their potential impact, Schottenheimer said he wants Brees back and believes the Chargers will be even stronger with him.
Later, he acknowledged an icy relationship with General Manager A.J. Smith and said he was uncertain if everyone in the organization is pulling in the same direction.
“I think it's important that there always be communication between the coach and the general manager,” he said during a break at the annual NFL Scouting Combine. “I've sought to see that realized, but, quite frankly, there hasn't been as much communication as I would like.
“I think we all understand that ours is a very difficult, competitive enterprise, and in my opinion it's important that everybody is aimed in the same direction.”
Is that the case with the Chargers?
“We'll have to maybe wait and see,” he said.
The statements were eye-opening because Schottenheimer normally is guarded when speaking about the team or the organization. His modus operandi is to accentuate the positive, ignore the negative – at least in public.
Yesterday marked the first time Schottenheimer has candidly discussed his working relationship with Smith.
“In my opinion, the important thing for all of us – for our football team – is that we all have a common purpose and understanding of what we want to do, and then have a plan that can be implemented to achieve it,” he said. “As I said earlier, those decisions that I am a part of, or responsible for, will always be driven by one thing: What's in the best interest of the San Diego Chargers? To me, that's winning.”
In January, one week after the Chargers finished 9-7 and failed to make the playoffs, club President Dean Spanos expressed his disappointment but said: “I feel very confident going into next year. I know we're going to win. . . . I don't think anyone in the organization expects anything less than to win next year – the playoffs and to succeed in the playoffs.”
If that is the mandate for Schottenheimer, who has two years and nearly $8 million remaining on his contract, then his job could be a lot tougher without Brees, a former Pro Bowler who is 21-11 as a starter the past two seasons.
Normally teams don't allow 27-year-old, Pro Bowl-caliber quarterbacks to test the market without protection, but the Chargers elected to do so because of what Smith calls “medical concerns” about Brees' throwing shoulder, which was surgically repaired after he tore his labrum in the season finale.
The sides have until Thursday night to agree on a contract; otherwise Brees would become an unrestricted free agent and free to sign with another club. If he departs, 2004 first-round draft choice Philip Rivers would assume the starting job.
Rivers has no career starts and just 30 career pass attempts, but Smith believes he has tremendous potential, which is the primary reason the Chargers traded for him two years ago at the NFL draft. A popular rumor making the rounds at the Combine is that Smith favors Rivers and is using the “medical concerns” excuse as means to get the youngster on the field.
“I wouldn't care if it's Philip Rivers or Drew Brees leading us to a championship and holding a Super Bowl trophy over his head,” Smith said yesterday. “I wouldn't care if A.J. Feeley was called upon and led us to a championship and held that Super Bowl trophy over his head. Whoever it is doesn't matter to me, as long as it's a Charger and the Chargers are winning. Philip is not my guy; the three of them are. That's why we want all three on the roster. I don't have a favorite.”
Schottenheimer also said he wants all three to return, adding that Brees would be the starter if healthy.
“In my opinion, we're better off if Drew Brees is here,” he said. “We've all come to realize that it takes more than one quality quarterback in this league to be successful. If he's able to recover from this injury – and I'm optimistic about that – I think it gives us an advantage.”
Schottenheimer refused to speculate whether the Chargers – who with a little tweaking have the potential to make a deep run in the playoffs – would take a step back with Rivers behind center.
“I don't know that you can say that,” he said. “I would think that history would indicate that (you would struggle some), but every situation is different. That would be pure speculation on my part.
“What I do know is, we've certainly gone through a process in the development of Drew to get him to where he is, and it's very difficult to condense that time frame.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20060226-9999-1s26chargers.html
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brees injured his shoulder at the end of last season and was thought to be damaged goods so I don't consider it to be a terrible move letting him go, especially since they invested alot in rivers
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brees injured his shoulder at the end of last season and was thought to be damaged goods so I don't consider it to be a terrible move letting him go, especially since they invested alot in rivers
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I agree, its not like Rivers didn't turn out to be a good QB. With Breeze's injury situation, and the ability of Rivers at the time it was not a bad move. Still not a bad move.
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brees injured his shoulder at the end of last season and was thought to be damaged goods so I don't consider it to be a terrible move letting him go, especially since they invested alot in rivers
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Earl with consistently bad judgement. It was precisely this kind of flawed reasoning that made New Orleans' season.
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This is one of the worst examples of bad timing I have ever seen. It's like a hot chick breaking up with her boyfriend the night before the prom.
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Earl with consistently bad judgement. It was precisely this kind of flawed reasoning that made New Orleans' season.
hahaha it is hilarious the way you love to be wrong
are you some sort of a sick twisted masochist that enjoys being owned?
rivers made the pro bowl his first year as a starter
brees played well against inferior nfc competition and just made the nfc championship whooptie fuckin do ::)
10-6 in the nfc is the equivalent to 7-9 in the afc
brees just got injured in the friggin pro bowl which proves what a sissy nancy boy he is
the chargers finally made a good move by letting him go 8)
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Got a lot of family in St louis who are die hard Chiefs fans. I pains them to even discuss the playoff failures during Schotty's tenure there.
1995 13-3 record and home field advantage in the playoffs. Drop their first game to the 6 seeded Colts 10-7.
1997 13-3 record and home field advantage. Drop their first playoff game to the eventual Super Bowl champs, the Denver Broncos 14-10.
His best postseason year came in 1993 when he had some guy named Montana quarterbacking his team. Made it to the AFC title game before losing to Buffalo.
The guy simply can't get it done when it counts.
I'm not even mentioning his Cleveland Browns teams!
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Further proof that the NFL embraces mediocre coaching considering his long career.
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This is one of the worst examples of bad timing I have ever seen. It's like a hot chick breaking up with her boyfriend the night before the prom.
I agree. They just lost both coordinators too. I think I read this is the first time in NFL history that a coach who won at least 14 games was fired.
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I agree. They just lost both coordinators too. I think I read this is the first time in NFL history that a coach who won at least 14 games was fired.
You have to take into account the amount of talent Marty has had on his teams. With a 5 - 13 playoff record it ain't the players. I also would be willing to bet the Chargers did not want Marty running the ship without his offensive/defensive coordinators. Hell even there in house, would be, replacment defensive coordinator was lost to another team. I believe he was the linebackers coach?
Some of that 14 win credit needs to be attributed to the raw talent of the players on the team, and the offensive and defensive coordinators. I understand marty is a good coach. However, I do think with the amount of talent on that team, only a guy like Herm Edwards could have a 500 record.
I think this is a good move for the future of the franchise. Might struggle out off the gate, but next time they are in the playoffs they might be happy they have a different coach. I wish em luck, they have some awesome players.
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You have to take into account the amount of talent Marty has had on his teams. With a 5 - 13 playoff record it ain't the players. I also would be willing to bet the Chargers did not want Marty running the ship without his offensive/defensive coordinators. Hell even there in house, would be, replacment defensive coordinator was lost to another team. I believe he was the linebackers coach?
Some of that 14 win credit needs to be attributed to the raw talent of the players on the team, and the offensive and defensive coordinators. I understand marty is a good coach. However, I do think with the amount of talent on that team, only a guy like Herm Edwards could have a 500 record.
I think this is a good move for the future of the franchise. Might struggle out off the gate, but next time they are in the playoffs they might be happy they have a different coach. I wish em luck, they have some awesome players.
You cannot ignore the record, but I think there is too much emphasis on what happened 10 or 20 years ago. I watched the Chargers/Pats game and I wouldn't hang that on Marty at all. They had the no. 1 offense in the NFL one of the better defenses in the NFL. That was a well coached team. They made some dumb mistakes, but they were coached well enough to win. They fell victim to Brady's brilliance IMO.
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You cannot ignore the record, but I think there is too much emphasis on what happened 10 or 20 years ago. I watched the Chargers/Pats game and I wouldn't hang that on Marty at all. They had the no. 1 offense in the NFL one of the better defenses in the NFL. That was a well coached team. They made some dumb mistakes, but they were coached well enough to win. They fell victim to Brady's brilliance IMO.
Regardless, you cannot in a responsible fashion fire the coach of a loaded franchise after the premier candiates have been hired, based on a personality conflict which existed before the playoffs.
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Regardless, you cannot in a responsible fashion fire the coach of a loaded franchise after the premier candiates have been hired, based on a personality conflict which existed before the playoffs.
I agree.
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Schottenheimer is a chokster in the playoffs. This move was overdue. Not to mention the chargers lost both there offensive and defensive coordinators.
People act like this is the first time Marty has screwed up with an extremely talented team. The guy is 5 - 13 in the postseason. Marty has had talent up the wazu on his teams. The chargers dont need a great regular season record. They need someone who can take them to the next level. Marty have proven he is not that guy. He is a great coach, but his failures in the "big games" (aka playoffs) are quite evident.
I for one am crushed. As an AFC contender, we where all in love with the Idea of Marty coaching the chargers, with both his coordinators gone. I think the rest of the AFC felt the same.
Bod - Marty's firing had nothing to due to his past record. his past record was the same when they hired him in the first place. he already had that reputation.
the reason Marty was fired was because he was allowing his assistants to interview for other jobs. as a head coach you can prevent assistants from interviewing. i believe he lost five assistants along with both coordinators. offensive and defensive. the GM was upset Marty didnt prevent the assistants from interviewing. and without the assistants and coordinators there was no bridge of communication between the two of them. Marty was only going to be there for one more year, so why should he prevent his assistants from getting long term contracts from someone else while moving up? many of the assistants they lost are now coordinators.
also i wouldnt put the playoff loss to your Pats on the shoulders of Marty. the personal fouls and dropped balls had nothing to do with him. watching the game objectively.
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What I meant was, with Marty's previous playoff record ,and current playoff record it is pretty evident he folds when he has to coach with it all on the line.
I am not putting the chargers loss on Marty's shoulders. The pats exploited the chargers mistakes. They made plays when they had to. The pats made mistakes themselves. They could have easily put 14 more points on that score. Brady was awesome when it was all on the line, but he did have the worst game of his playoff career that day. I know the loss was not all on the coach, but he did make several bonehead moves that put the chargers in a worse position. You just cannot ignore 5 - 13 with the talent he has had.
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I was just about to post this....
Holy Crap, wow... Is this the dumbest mistake you've seen from a team? Their best season ever... Fire the coatch... LOL....
After the playoff loss, I was one of those saying he SHOULD be fired, because the guy just is not a good in-game coach, which is what you need to win in the playoffs. I couldn't believe the Chargers came out earlier and said he would NOT be fired.
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It wasn't a trade. They let Brees walk. I'll find the link to the story, but I specifically recall reading about the power struggle between Marty and A.J. Smith, including the decision to let Brees walk.
It was a money decision. They weren't willing to pay $20 million/year for the QB position.
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brees injured his shoulder at the end of last season and was thought to be damaged goods so I don't consider it to be a terrible move letting him go, especially since they invested alot in rivers
Right. The shoulder injury made it a no-brainer.
And even though Brees left, they were STILL the best team in football.
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Bod I really dont think Marty himself folds necessarily. Ernest Byner fumbles on the 1 yard line, and his teams were losing to John Elway and the Bills who went to four straight SB's. just my opinion though. He will be coaching again though and he will do well.
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You cannot ignore the record, but I think there is too much emphasis on what happened 10 or 20 years ago. I watched the Chargers/Pats game and I wouldn't hang that on Marty at all. They had the no. 1 offense in the NFL one of the better defenses in the NFL. That was a well coached team. They made some dumb mistakes, but they were coached well enough to win. They fell victim to Brady's brilliance IMO.
Absolutely not.
There's no way they should've lost that game. They were out-coached.
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Bod I really dont think Marty himself folds necessarily. Ernest Byner fumbles on the 1 yard line, and his teams were losing to John Elway and the Bills who went to four straight SB's. just my opinion though. He will be coaching again though and he will do well.
He should be with the Raiders.
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Bod I really dont think Marty himself folds necessarily. Ernest Byner fumbles on the 1 yard line, and his teams were losing to John Elway and the Bills who went to four straight SB's. just my opinion though. He will be coaching again though and he will do well.
Thats cool, I understand your position. You have a point with some off his losses.
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Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl next year without Marty ruining it in the playoffs for them.
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Thats cool, I understand your position. You have a point with some off his losses.
i hate that cocky picture of Bill you have. so smug
go Dolphins!!!
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i hate that cocky picture of Bill you have. so smug
go Dolphins!!!
He is not cocky or smug at all. The photographer asked him to pose with his rings, so he did. Since you are a dolphins fan, I can understand your feelings tho.
How did you feel about the Saben ordeal? How do you feel about the future? What do Miami fans feel about the whole situation?
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I agree. They just lost both coordinators too. I think I read this is the first time in NFL history that a coach who won at least 14 games was fired.
Doesn't matter, it had to be done sooner than later. Would've happened again; no escaping the need to rid themselves of this guy. Can NOT lose the first playoff home game at 14-2, giving up 10 points in the last minutes. That collapse *is* on the coach whether obvious or not.
Even if they don't play well next season it was necessary; they were not winning anything with marty ball.
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Even if they don't play well next season it was necessary; they were not winning anything with marty ball.
Maybe so, but you do it the day after the loss, not after missing out on the prime candidates (who is left, Dennis Green?). From what I'm hearing, the firing had more to do with a dispute between GM and coach than the playoff loss itself.
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He is not cocky or smug at all. The photographer asked him to pose with his rings, so he did. Since you are a dolphins fan, I can understand your feelings tho.
How did you feel about the Saben ordeal? How do you feel about the future? What do Miami fans feel about the whole situation?
I have been a Dol-fan since i was 6 or 7. im 27 now. Saban was never going to get the team to the level everyone expected him to. his drafts have been very less than decent. we are still winning with the player that took us to the playoffs when we had Marino. that explains why we dont win. i thought Saban would at least help us in the drafts. instead he hired more assistants than any other NFL team, made huge demands, wanted complete control and wanted Culpepper and Harrington. Ronnie Brown IMO will never be a game breaking back. Culpepper i believe is done, he was a flash in the pan for a brief peroid of time. i was wanting Brees the whole time.
there are so many holes on our team. our defense is old, offensive line is very sub-par, no QB, slow at the wide reciever position. there almost isnt a bright side.
Cam Cameron is our new leader but he is a rookie head coach who is unproven. his only head coaching experience was in Indiana. im not saying he will fail, i have no idea but he wasnt my first or second choice. i would gladly take Marty.
every team in our division is getting better, Jets,Bills and of course you guys. watch out for the Bills though, with Marv Levy back helping the orginization they will steadily improve. and the Jets have a great coach in the making.
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Maybe so, but you do it the day after the loss, not after missing out on the prime candidates (who is left, Dennis Green?). From what I'm hearing, the firing had more to do with a dispute between GM and coach than the playoff loss itself.
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Maybe so, but you do it the day after the loss, not after missing out on the prime candidates (who is left, Dennis Green?). From what I'm hearing, the firing had more to do with a dispute between GM and coach than the playoff loss itself.
There are other good candidates under the radar. They shouldn't have waited but the delay isn't make or break.
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The Chargers can go out and get whoever they want pretty much. No one is going to pass up coaching that team, they're going to be the most loaded team in the NFL for 3-4 years at least.
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The Chargers can go out and get whoever they want pretty much. No one is going to pass up coaching that team, they're going to be the most loaded team in the NFL for 3-4 years at least.
who then can they get to coach? they cant get whoever they want all the good candidates have been taking. they will end up with a lame-duck coach like Turner,Green, Fossil or an unproven coordinator and use them until they have more coaches availible in the next few years.
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There are other good candidates under the radar. They shouldn't have waited but the delay isn't make or break.
Who were you thinking of? I don't think Pete Caroll will leave USC. Jimmy Johnson is enjoying retirement. Ron Rivera is not bad, but the last memory we have of him is his defense underperforming. Bill Cowher is reportedly friends with Marty and in any event is at least a year from un-retiring.
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There are plenty of good coaches in the NFL or college that aren't hyped as brand-names & are worthwhile, including one mentioned at the end of the following article. They're still there because so many NFL GMs and owners think inside the box, such as Jerry Jones seriously considering Norv Turner for the Cowboys.
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The Marty mess
Chargers mishandled entire Schottenheimer situation
Peter King
Regarding the Marty Schottenheimer debacle in San Diego: I blame president Dean Spanos and general manager A.J. Smith for two enormous mistakes they made along the road to kicking the coach out the door:
1. The idiotic "contract extension'' offer that was made to Schottenheimer when the Chargers announced he would not be fired. How do you offer the sixth-winningest coach of all time -- or some losing schmoe, for that matter -- an extension with only $1 million of the $4.5-million guaranteed? What Spanos was doing with that extension was saying: "Marty, we beg you, don't take this slap-in-the-face offer. And let's all go our separate ways after this season, when we can promote Wade Phillips or Cam Cameron to the head job.'' Oooops.
2. To me, the job of a team president and general manager, when your team is in full crisis mode (as the Chargers were in the last few days, seeing four of their top five or six assistant coaches walk out the door to coordinator or head-coaching jobs) is to be an olive-branch-toting guy. One of them needed to walk into the head coach's office and say: "For the sake of the franchise, we can't let this season go down the drain. We've got to repair this relationship for the next few months and go forward with the best interests of the team in mind.'' Neither did.
I support Schottenheimer if he felt that hiring his well-traveled brother, Kurt, to be defensive coordinator was the best decision for the team. Can't Schottenheimer have any say on who he goes to battle with for the next season? Granted, Kurt Schottenheimer is not a very well-regarded coordinator candidate. But if you're going to bring Marty back, you're not going to let him pick the players and he's got gaping holes on his coaching, he should be allowed to pick the staff. And from the smoke signals wafting from Chargerland, that was a major problem at the end.
I like Smith. He's great at his job, which is 80 percent acquiring talent. On balanace, no one since 2001 has done a better job of building a franchise through the draft than the Chargers, and it's mostly due to Smith's keen eye. But he's got to look himself in the mirror on the other 20 percent. This is a people business, and being autocratic all the time is not the way to earn respect from your co-workers.
In my business -- in fact, in any business -- if the underling and the boss aren't speaking, and if the relationship is hopelessly severed, you move on. You switch jobs. That's the way this relationship was a month ago. And Spanos should have made the decision then, when his staff wouldn't yet have been in tatters.
Now that the Colts have won a Super Bowl, the Chargers now are in danger of becoming the most disappointing team of the decade. With a 35-13 record over the past three years (New England is only one win better), San Diego has made the playoffs twice in those three seasons and lost to inferior teams, the Jets in 2004 and Pats in 2006. No playoff wins despite a .729 winning percentage in the regular season. The last month doesn't help their outlook in any way. In fact, with all the mayhem, it'll be stunning if the Chargers can dig their way out of this horrible web of mismanagement to finally be a playoff factor next season.
My only advice? Interview Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan. It's insane this guy doesn't have a head-coaching job yet. The San Diego defense under Ryan would be even more hell-bent-for-leather next fall.
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Rex Ryan, son of Buddy Ryan would be a solid coach some day, but i think the Chargers need a higher profile or proven coach. besides i dont think many teams have him as a consideration, and the NFL teams leave no stone unturned.
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Rex Ryan, son of Buddy Ryan would be a solid coach some day, but i think the Chargers need a higher profile or proven coach. besides i dont think many teams have him as a consideration, and the NFL teams leave no stone unturned.
Must be tempting for Parcells since he's all over the place one moment to the next. It would be almost a can't-lose situation for him or Jimmy Johnson.
Maybe Gruden could be talked to.
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Must be tempting for Parcells since he's all over the place one moment to the next. It would be almost a can't-lose situation for him or Jimmy Johnson.
Maybe Gruden could be talked to.
Ah yes..Gruden. i forgot about him. he's young, smart and has a huge appetite for success. good one Pump.
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USC Coach Pete Carroll is staying mum about his possible involvement in the San Diego Chargers' head coaching search.
Carroll issued a statement through the school Tuesday indicating he had nothing to say on the subject and declined to comment when reporters approached him on campus.
Carroll has rejected repeated overtures from NFL teams in recent years but interviewed with the Miami Dolphins last month. The Chargers have begun interviewing other candidates but several executives around the league say they expect the club to make a serious run at luring Carroll back to the NFL.
San Francisco 49ers linebackers coach Mike Singletary is to be the first candidate to interview for the San Diego Chargers' head coaching job.
He's scheduled to meet with Chargers officials early today.
Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera also is to be in San Diego today to interview for the job.
The Chargers reportedly have requested permission to interview 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner, Seattle Seahawks defensive backs coach Jim Mora and defensive coordinators Rex Ryan of the Baltimore Ravens and Mike Zimmer of the Atlanta Falcons as well. Their list also is said to include New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs.
According to an NFL source, the Chargers plan to interview Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner and Seattle Seahawks defensive backs coach Jim Mora in the coming days.
There have been reports that the Chargers also are interested in Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan, New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs and 49ers linebackers coach Mike Singletary.
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You can quote me on this: "There is a zero percent chance that Pete Carroll will leave USC to coach anywhere else next season."
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You can quote me on this: "There is a zero percent chance that Pete Carroll will leave USC to coach anywhere else next season."
Carroll would be stupid to leave, not only because he's got one of the top college jobs but also because he hasn't proven he can cut it in the NFL.
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"but also because he hasn't proven he can cut it in the NFL."
actually that would be his main reason for leaving ::)
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"but also because he hasn't proven he can cut it in the NFL."
actually that would be his main reason for leaving ::)
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My point, one that again went over Earl's pea-sized brain, was that if he considered the cost-benefit equation it wouldn't be worth leaving. Everyone already knows the obvious reason why he'd want to coach in the NFL.
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You can quote me on this: "There is a zero percent chance that Pete Carroll will leave USC to coach anywhere else next season."
Pete Carroll has proved he isn't a good head coach in the NFL. He is a college coach.
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Pete Carroll has proved he isn't a good head coach in the NFL. He is a college coach.
He's a great college coach. His recruiting classes will always be among the best in the country. USC will always be in the "national championship" ::) race. He is one of the kings of L.A. He's making good money. He'd be a fool to leave.
That said, if he wanted to be a fool, San Diego would be a good choice. He would take over the no. 1 offense in the NFL and arguably the best overall team in the NFL with the best player in the NFL.
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The LA Times is reporting that Pete Caroll is not in the mix for the Chargers job.
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My point, one that again went over Earl's pea-sized brain, was that if he considered the cost-benefit equation it wouldn't be worth leaving. Everyone already knows the obvious reason why he'd want to coach in the NFL.
your stupid post didn't illustrate that point cupcake :-*
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There are plenty of good coaches in the NFL or college that aren't hyped as brand-names & are worthwhile, including one mentioned at the end of the following article. They're still there because so many NFL GMs and owners think inside the box, such as Jerry Jones seriously considering Norv Turner for the Cowboys.
In the end analysis, the Chargers went "Inside the box."
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In the end analysis, the Chargers went "Inside the box."
Horrible choice. The only good news is that they hired Ron Rivera as an assistant, thus if things go badly they'd already have someone potentially in place as a replacement.
This also potentially hurts the 49ers, because Turner had a huge positive influence on their QB. Hopefully their QB's already learned enough that it won't matter.