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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: BRUCE on February 15, 2007, 01:06:17 AM
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I've had a brain wave (or fade, depending on your point of view), which I'd like the Mods to consider:
The Vault
Whenever two members of the board engage in a debate where they have opposing views, any given member can challenge the other to take them on in The Vault!!!!
Here's what I think the rules should be:
- One post each
- 500 words maximum
- At least 90% of the content must be written by the member (we'll let you quote a little)
- Links, etc. can be used, and must be used if quoting from a named source
- Footnotes are not included in the word count, but must be of reasonable length (eg. no extensive explanation)
- Both members must post within a 24 hour period
- Both member must agree to this period beforehand
- Both members must agree to enter The Vault
- No insults or expletives (unless quotes or valid references)
For example - the topic could be abortion. 240 challenges Ribonucleic (never gonna happen, I know boys), and each member begins writing their views. They are then subsequently posted, the board reads both essays, and decides who has won - recommends further information, debates even more etc.
I think this is a great way of shedding some more light on big issues, and letting the many intellects of this board square off against one another in good-natured debate. It's also a much more amicable way of 'calling someone out'.
Mods, what do we think? Can we use this, or is it expecting too much for a social political board? Let's have some feedback.
PS. The rules are open to additions or deductions depending on people's (Mods) reactions to them.
Let the carnage begin!!
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I kinda like it... Like the vault appears or maybe call it "The Cage"... the vault sounds like an archive... when the challenge is made, a sticky is there long enough to have people read the entries, get votes and tally winner. The best idea you've had yet you loser... Not permanent, but when the challenge goes. If people like it, I'll add it to the rules not as a forum rule but just as a notice of this being an attribute to the political forum that can engage in. I like the idea but expand out the time to write it to 72 hours so each side can put together a well done argument. People are busy and sometimes one day is only an hour or less of time after they get done with all their daily activities and it better be well written for people to read 500 words... that's a fact :P I like it Bruce, I think it's an excellent way to improve the forum. way to get er done... It would NOT be a permanent sticky but just when the essays were entered and enough time for a vote and congrats to a winner... Lets hear ideas on this!!!! I'm intrigued!!!!
I will sticky this for 24 hours, lets here what everyone thinks!!!!!
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I think it is a cool idea. I enjoy reading the posts guys like Bruce and 240 put up. They are usually well written and full of facts,not just "George Bush Sucks!" (even though he does). :)
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Some kind of duel?
That's pretty funny.
The one-post rule may be what could keep it doable.
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sounds cool
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Coolio........ i like it
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Sounds like a lot of work.
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Sounds like a lot of work.
yup, but both would have accepted the challenge before a sticky is created so I'm guessing they'll be up for it if they didn't say no.
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Do it....it will be like a Real World Challenge.....but better.
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First of all, thank you for the sticky – and everyone that’s taken a moment to give some feedback to this idea.
Not permanent, but when the challenge goes. If people like it, I'll add it to the rules not as a forum rule but just as a notice of this being an attribute to the political forum that can engage in. I like the idea but expand out the time to write it to 72 hours so each side can put together a well done argument.
My initial idea was that the two members can decide when the debate goes down – so I can challenge 240 in a week’s time (say February 23), and my post must be posted on this day. 240 then has 24 hours to post his essay. I’m not sure at this stage whether we should allow a second round of essays (possible shorter) to be made as a follow up debate on the issue, and to address opponent’s arguments.
The idea that at least 72 hours is given to both parties before this 24 hour period begins is a good one though.
The best idea you've had yet you loser...
You had me at ‘Hello’.
I like it Bruce, I think it's an excellent way to improve the forum. way to get er done... It would NOT be a permanent sticky but just when the essays were entered and enough time for a vote and congrats to a winner... Lets hear ideas on this!!!! I'm intrigued!!!!
Indeed!
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First of all, thank you for the sticky – and everyone that’s taken a moment to give some feedback to this idea.
My initial idea was that the two members can decide when the debate goes down – so I can challenge 240 in a week’s time (say February 23), and my post must be posted on this day. 240 then has 24 hours to post his essay. I’m not sure at this stage whether we should allow a second round of essays (possible shorter) to be made as a follow up debate on the issue, and to address opponent’s arguments.
The idea that at least 72 hours is given to both parties before this 24 hour period begins is a good one though.
You had me at ‘Hello’.
Indeed!
What about this idea, that both essays are posted at the same time... the idea is to best support your position. The sides are already drawn. Why not draw sides, make the debate clear and have both post the essays exactly at the same time. and judge who best made their case. If one posts first, the second will always have an advantage because he can custom his essay to be and exact refutation of the essay posted, but if both are in the dark with how the other will support his/her position, it will be more like a real time debate when you don't know how your opponent has prepared.
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What about this idea, that both essays are posted at the same time... the idea is to best support your position. The sides are already drawn. Why not draw sides, make the debate clear and have both post the essays exactly at the same time. and judge who best made their case. If one posts first, the second will always have an advantage because he can custom his essay to be and exact refutation of the essay posted, but if both are in the dark with how the other will support his/her position, it will be more like a real time debate when you don't know how your opponent has prepared.
Yeah true, I thought the same thing after I posted - it would be much better if both are posted at the same time. Perhaps even emailed to a Mod first, who then starts the thread and posts both at the same time so we don't have to rely on members on opposite ends of the world getting their timing right.
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I think it is a waste of time.
I like it better when there is a statement or question, then an answer, and a rebuttal.
Some posts and posters either exaggerate or do use complete sources, so there can be a lot of crap that just isn't true in some of the posts.
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I think it is a waste of time.
I like it better when there is a statement or question, then an answer, and a rebuttal.
This is an even better way of making sure this happens. It'll be a serious forum where the posters will be held to a certain level of integrity withing their inital statements and replies. Flooding of threads with long and boring information will not be permitted, just hard facts and concise debate.
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This is an even better way of making sure this happens. It'll be a serious forum where the posters will be held to a certain level of integrity withing their inital statements and replies. Flooding of threads with long and boring information will not be permitted, just hard facts and concise debate.
You guys never post hard facts in here. Most of you think that if someone makes an anti-American video and it winds on on Google video then it must be true ::)
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The Vault sounds like a crappy supplement from SAN :-\ .. But it is a Great idea!
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You guys never post hard facts in here. Most of you think that if someone makes an anti-American video and it winds on on Google video then it must be true ::)
That's hardly the way I do things round here, anyway Danielson, the members that do engage in posting falsities will be called out as doing so after their essay has been read.
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That's hardly the way I do things round here, anyway Danielson, the members that do engage in posting falsities will be called out as doing so after their essay has been read.
Well, I don't know about this essay thing. But perhaps you can get the bleeding heart liberals to stfu once in a while so more people could join the discussions.
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The Vault sounds like a crappy supplement from SAN :-\ .. But it is a Great idea!
;D Okay, well let's just say I'm open to other suggestions Re: the branding.
Beserker said 'The Cage', is that a better idea?
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;D Okay, well let's just say I'm open to other suggestions Re: the branding.
Beserker said 'The Cage', is that a better idea?
How about a Republican board?
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;D Okay, well let's just say I'm open to other suggestions Re: the branding.
Beserker said 'The Cage', is that a better idea?
The Cage is a good alternative.
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Any other name suggestions, guys?
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Any other name suggestions, guys?
Why not call it "3rd grade?" Thats when you start writing essays.
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Why not call it "3rd grade?" Thats when you start writing essays.
Because, for most of us anyway, it's not also the same year you stop.
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Because, for most of us anyway, it's not also the same year you stop.
I just think you are trying to make this place more than it is. If I make a post in the future and someone asks me to write an essay to prove my point, I will tell them to fuck off. You are trying way too hard to make this an exclusive club for a select few and not making this place inviting for Getbig as a whole imo.
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I just think you are trying to make this place more than it is. If I make a post in the future and someone asks me to write an essay to prove my point, I will tell them to f**k off. You are trying way too hard to make this an exclusive club for a select few and not making this place inviting for Getbig as a whole imo.
Actually, Danielson, if you read my initial post, I have clearly stated the debate will not be on (in this forum, anyway), unless both parties agree. What do you have to fear? If you make baseless claims and then will not support them with an essay, maybe you shouldn't be making them in the first place.
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Actually, Danielson, if you read my initial post, I have clearly stated the debate will not be on (in this forum, anyway), unless both parties agree. What do you have to fear? If you make baseless claims and then will not support them with an essay, maybe you shouldn't be making them in the first place.
I fear more bullshit like I read yesterday. That if you are not a "regular" on here, you are somehow less important.(I was under the impression that as soon as Ron OKed your account here, you were just as important as everyone else). You know damn well that the casual poster would find this stupid and would not want to be asked to write an essay only to be slammed when they decline.
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I fear more bullshit like I read yesterday. That if you are not a "regular" on here, you are somehow less important.(I was under the impression that as soon as Ron OKed your account here, you were just as important as everyone else). You know damn well that the casual poster would find this stupid and would not want to be asked to write an essay only to be slammed when they decline.
I couldn't care less how much or little time someone spends here, Danielson, and wouldn't know how to guage it even if I did.
What I judge people on is debates and opinions, if you bring the debate here, then you'll get challenged on it. Again, why should this worry you?
Even so, I doubt anyone but regulars will get engaged in this type of debate.
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I couldn't care less how much or little time someone spends here, Danielson, and wouldn't know how to guage it even if I did.
What I judge people on is debates and opinions, if you bring the debate here, then you'll get challenged on it. Again, why should this worry you?
Even so, I doubt anyone but regulars will get engaged in this type of debate.
You can't challenge someones opinions now can you? As far as your comment about "the regulars", perhaps you could get more traffic by not distinguishing between "us" and "you" so often and making more Getbiggers feel at home? You're attempt to make this into an elitist board yesterday and continuing today has not gone unnoticed. ;)
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You can't challenge someones opinions now can you? As far as your comment about "the regulars", perhaps you could get more traffic by not distinguishing between "us" and "you" so often and making more Getbiggers feel at home? You're attempt to make this into an elitist board yesterday and continuing today has not gone unnoticed. ;)
Actually, it was you that made this distinction, Danielson. I'll repeat, for your benefit:
I couldn't care less how much or little time someone spends here, Danielson, and wouldn't know how to guage it even if I did.
I'll have 240 greet you with a cuddle and a card if you don't feel as 'at home' as you would like, okay?
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Actually, it was you that made this distinction, Danielson. I'll repeat, for your benefit:
I couldn't care less how much or little time someone spends here, Danielson, and wouldn't know how to guage it even if I did.
I'll have 240 greet you with a cuddle and a card if you don't feel as 'at home' as you would like, okay?
That would be great Bruce. ::) You are proving my point exactly. The average person at Getbig doesn't want to take the time to write an essay to prove his opinion on a messageboard. I realize that 5 or 6 of you think that its a great idea, but the average Getbigger would just avoid this board more than they already do.
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The average person at Getbig doesn't want to take the time to write an essay to prove his opinion on a messageboard. I realize that 5 or 6 of you think that its a great idea, but the average Getbigger would just avoid this board more than they already do.
I don't disagree, Danielson. But why not let those that do want to engage in this type of debate have a forum to do so?
I never said this was a bona fide great idea, I was just asking for feedback on it. If the board doesn't like my idea, then so be it. If they do, you will find other ways to complain to me, no doubt.
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I don't disagree, Danielson. But why not let those that do want to engage in this type of debate have a forum to do so?
I never said this was a bona fide great idea, I was just asking for feedback on it. If the board doesn't like my idea, then so be it. If they do, you will find other ways to complain to me, no doubt.
Yeah, cuz I have complained about you so many times in the past ::) I didn't like your idea of inviting everyone to read your blog and then talk about it here(cuz it makes you look like an attention whore imo), but I didn't comment on it. I just don't think you should exclude future posters of this board with an idea of writing essays to support opinions, when only a few of you would actually choose to do so. Maybe you can write an "essay" and explain how this is going to help the board in the future?
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Maybe you can write an "essay" and explain how this is going to help the board in the future?
Are you challenging me? ;D
Seriously though, if you can prove to me that doing this will in fact drive posters away from this board, I'll let the idea go through to the 'keeper.
I can't be sure, so far I've had more support than negativity, but I think this would actually increase interest in the board.
Any other opinions?
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Are you challenging me? ;D
Seriously though, if you can prove to me that doing this will in fact drive posters away from this board, I'll let the idea go through to the 'keeper.
I can't be sure, so far I've had more support than negativity, but I think this would actually increase interest in the board.
Any other opinions?
No, I am not challenging you and I am not sure it would drive anyone away, I just don't see many new members acclimating to a "vault" type atmosphere. You guys know each other a little bit, but new members of Getbig would feel uncomfortable being called out to write an essay imo. That being said, as a reader of this forum I do think it would be interesting to read the submissions, but someone has to think about forum growth and I am not sure you have whats best for the boards future in mind.
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No, I am not challenging you and I am not sure it would drive anyone away, I just don't see many new members acclimating to a "vault" type atmosphere. You guys know each other a little bit, but new members of Getbig would feel uncomfortable being called out to write an essay imo. That being said, as a reader of this forum I do think it would be interesting to read the submissions, but someone has to think about forum growth and I am not sure you have whats best for the boards future in mind.
I think I do, otherwise I would have just PM'd Berserker (assuming I could right now) and asked him to incorporate it.
Instead I threw it out here so you and I could debate its benefits or lack thereof.
Ah, sweet democracy.
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I think I do, otherwise I would have just PM'd Berserker (assuming I could right now) and asked him to incorporate it.
Instead I threw it out here so you and I could debate its benefits or lack thereof.
Ah, sweet democracy.
How about an essay on why it is a good idea for the forum as a whole?
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How about an essay on why it is a good idea for the forum as a whole?
I wouldn't be sure that it is, Danielson - that's the purpose of this thread.
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I wouldn't be sure that it is, Danielson - that's the purpose of this thread.
Nothing says it has to be official Bruce. No one can stop any 2 people from writing essays. It's just that you wannabe pundits are so opinionated that I think you guys would get out of hand trying to get people to write essays all the time.
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Nothing says it has to be official Bruce. No one can stop any 2 people from writing essays. It's just that you wannabe pundits are so opinionated that I think you guys would get out of hand trying to get people to write essays all the time.
Place a little more faith in the Moderators here to do that for you, or demand they be replaced.
You're right, no one can stop us writing essays, but if you read my initial post (again) you'll see that I'd like to make it a little more formal, and for it to work I need some Mod assistance (as Berserker is kindly giving me). If you're suggesting that any given member here will be too pedantic about forcing people to write essays, then I agree they should not be allowed to. It has to be a two-way agreement, and I totally understand that it's not for everyone.
And as for me being opinionated, what did you expect to find here? People standing in circles holding hands whilst chanting quietly about the benefits of multicultural societies and frothy de-caf soya mocha lattes?
Maybe it's just you that isn't cut out for this board.
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Place a little more faith in the Moderators here to do that for you, or demand they be replaced.
You're right, no one can stop us writing essays, but if you read my initial post (again) you'll see that I'd like to make it a little more formal, and for it to work I need some Mod assistance (as Berserker is kindly giving me). If you're suggesting that any given member here will be too pedantic about forcing people to write essays, then I agree they should not be allowed to. It has to be a two-way agreement, and I totally understand that it's not for everyone.
And as for me being opinionated, what did you expect to find here? People standing in circles holding hands whilst chanting quietly about the benefits of multicultural societies and frothy de-caf soya mocha lattes?
Maybe it's just you that isn't cut out for this board.
I would never ask for a mod to be replaced, they seem to be doing fine anyway, and I said everyone here is opinionated, not just you. If you think its a good idea, then knock yourself out, but don't say I didn't warn you ;). And stop taking everything so personal.
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I would never ask for a mod to be replaced, they seem to be doing fine anyway, and I said everyone here is opinionated, not just you. If you think its a good idea, then knock yourself out, but don't say I didn't warn you ;). And stop taking everything so personal.
I take your 'warning' as seriously as I take everyone else here that said it's a good idea. You're in the minority in case you didn't notice.
you wannabe pundits are so opinionated that I think you guys would get out of hand trying to get people to write essays all the time.
The last part of that made me laugh, thanks for the heads-up, junior. I won't take it personally next time, I promise, okay?
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I take your 'warning' as seriously as I take everyone else here that said it's a good idea. You're in the minority in case you didn't notice.
You are frighteningly obtuse Bruce. I am in the minority because you guys have already alienated the casual poster to a certain degree. Do you think this is a good turnout for a vote? Only a few regulars even voted at all. Stop making this place all about you, okay :-*
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You are frighteningly obtuse Bruce. I am in the minority because you guys have already alienated the casual poster to a certain degree.
Oh, okay. You'll be able to prove that I've 'alienated' this 'casual poster' as you call him. Or not.
Do you think this is a good turnout for a vote?
Perhaps no-one is that fussed if I do it or not - I suspect that is the case. Again, you're in the minority on this thread, but I'm sure that's all just because of my dasterdly plot to 'alienate' the 'casual poster' - as if you're some sort of spokesman for the typical Getbigger. How about you just accept that the democratic process here has left you as the only member trolling me on this.
Only a few regulars even voted at all.
As opposed to the 'casual voter', who realised the 'regulars' were running shop here, and 'casually' decided to be 'alienated', right?
Stop making this place all about you, okay :-*
You post a dozen or so times about me in the space of a couple of hours, but I'm making it 'all about me'?
All this, on top of you accusing:
As far as your comment about "the regulars", perhaps you could get more traffic by not distinguishing between "us" and "you" so often and making more Getbiggers feel at home?
Sigh. Can I have my thread back now?
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Oh, okay. You'll be able to prove that I've 'alienated' this 'casual poster' as you call him. Or not.
Perhaps no-one is that fussed if I do it or not - I suspect that is the case. Again, you're in the minority on this thread, but I'm sure that's all just because of my dasterdly plot to 'alienate' the 'casual poster' - as if you're some sort of spokesman for the typical Getbigger. How about you just accept that the democratic process here has left you as the only member trolling me on this.
As opposed to the 'casual voter', who realised the 'regulars' were running shop here, and 'casually' decided to be 'alienated', right?
You post a dozen or so times about me in the space of a couple of hours, but I'm making it 'all about me'?
All this, on top of you accusing:
Sigh. Can I have my thread back now?
I am not posting about you Bruce. I am posting about your idea. Stop being so sensitive.
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I am not posting about you Bruce. I am posting about your idea. Stop being so sensitive.
Oh, okay then.
Nothing says it has to be official Bruce... you wannabe pundits are so opinionated that I think you guys would get out of hand trying to get people to write essays all the time.
You're not very good at this, are you?
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Oh, okay. You'll be able to prove that I've 'alienated' this 'casual poster' as you call him. Or not.
Here is one person you have alienated. I agree with Bench wholeheartedly btw. :)
because they are biased and completely clueless when it come to politics and how they work
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You're not very good at this, are you?
I didn't say I was good, did I? I just find your idea and to a lesser extent you to be annoying.
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I don't know who that is, and you didn't post the context of their message. For all I know he's talking about you, anyway.
Oh, and thanks for clearing this one up for me:
I am not posting about you Bruce.... Stop being so sensitive.
I just find....you to be annoying.
If you can't even convince yourself of your arguments, what hope do you have of changing anyone's mind here? I guess this is why you've spent your time here quarelling over this, rather than debating anything meaningful on the board.
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Here is Benchmstr saying this bruce http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=127783.0
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If you can't even convince yourself of your arguments, what hope do you have of changing anyone's mind here?
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I never said this was a bona fide great idea, I was just asking for feedback on it. If the board doesn't like my idea, then so be it. If they do, you will find other ways to complain to me, no doubt.
btw, you weren't annoying until you failed to realize how bad your idea was ;)
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btw, you weren't annoying until you failed to realize how bad your idea was ;)
Bad in your opinion, which is in the minority.
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Bad in your opinion, which is in the minority.
I have already told you that no one voted no cuz you guys have run this board into the ground(busy yes, but same people and opinions). No one cares anymore. I even gave you proof of someone complaining about it. I am not in the minority, I just happen to read this board so I voted. Can you explain to me in 500 words why this is a good idea following your guidelines?
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I have already told you that no one voted no cuz you guys have run this board into the ground(busy yes, but same people and opinions). No one cares anymore. I even gave you proof of someone complaining about it. I am not in the minority, I just happen to read this board so I voted. Can you explain to me in 500 words why this is a good idea following your guidelines?
You're assuming this. I have plenty of people PM me in support. Calm down, I know I'm under your skin but you need to bring the stalk-factor down a little.
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You're assuming this. I have plenty of people PM me in support. Calm down, I know I'm under your skin but you need to bring the stalk-factor down a little.
Fine, but don't let me hear that you are asking people to write essays over here, deal?
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Fine, but don't let me hear that you are asking people to write essays over here, deal?
It's not your call, hot shot. There isn't a damned thing you alone can stop me from doing here.
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It's not your call, hot shot. There isn't a damned thing you alone can stop me from doing here.
When does the vote end?
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When does the vote end?
Ask a mod, I don't make the rules here - neither do you.
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Ask a mod, I don't make the rules here - neither do you.
Well, do you have to be a "regular" here to vote on it? That was silly yesterday imo. Do you think a vote of 6 Yes' constitutes a Getbig majority?
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Well, do you have to be a "regular" here to vote on it? That was silly yesterday imo. Do you think a vote of 6 Yes' constitutes a Getbig majority?
I don't control who comes here and why, mate. You're giving me way too much credit. Like I said earlier I couldn't care less how much someone visits this board, and I'm certainly not going to weigh up their value here accordingly.
Whoever comes here to have their say, good on them. Everyone else can live in harmony elsewhere.
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I don't control who comes here and why, mate. You're giving me way too much credit. Like I said earlier I couldn't care less how much someone visits this board, and I'm certainly not going to weigh up their value here accordingly.
Whoever comes here to have their say, good on them. Everyone else can live in harmony elsewhere.
Fine Bruce, turn this forum into an academic pissing match. It's a stupid idea, but you are too stubborn to see anyone else's point of view anyway.
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Fine Bruce, turn this forum into an academic pissing match. It's a stupid idea, but you are too stubborn to see anyone else's point of view anyway.
You've spent the last 3 hours of your life debating the finer point of this with me (which, agreeably I entertained - if only because this is my idea) and now you claim I'm making it a 'pissing match'.
I suggest you crawl back into the box you've climbed out of recently.
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You've spent the last 3 hours of your life debating the finer point of this with me (which, agreeably I entertained - if only because this is my idea) and now you claim I'm making it a 'pissing match'.
I suggest you crawl back into the box you've climbed out of recently.
No Bruce, it would become a "pissing match" if you were to challenge people to write a better essay than you if you didn't like their opinions.
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No Bruce, it would become a "pissing match" if you were to challenge people to write a better essay than you if you didn't like their opinions.
Actually, that's what we call civilised debate where I come from.
I'm sure you'd rather hurl insults and make sneering remarks, and I'm not stopping you from doing it, but this is my suggestion.
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Actually, that's what we call civilised debate where I come from.
I'm sure you'd rather hurl insults and make sneering remarks, and I'm not stopping you from doing it, but this is my suggestion.
Ok Bruce, ruin the board. You can not be reasoned with, so no point trying.
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Ok Bruce, ruin the board. You can not be reasoned with, so no point trying.
No, I can't be stalked into submission - you know this now.
Go and make some interesting posts, would you? I've listened you out on this and I understand you don't like my idea.
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Go and make some interesting posts, would you?
Ok, what do you consider to be interesting?
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Ok, what do you consider to be interesting?
Anything about a political issue that contains your opinion. I'm tired of this back and forth, I'd much rather engage you in debate on something more interesting than me.
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Anything about a political issue that contains your opinion. I'm tired of this back and forth, I'd much rather engage you in debate on something more interesting than me.
I am thinking of something I am passionate about, but my sleeping pills are kicking in a little. Out of curiosity are you from Australia?
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I am thinking of something I am passionate about, but my sleeping pills are kicking in a little. Out of curiosity are you from Australia?
Yes, I am.
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Yes, I am.
Do you watch Temptation Island Australia? I have been watching it lately and I can't figure out why the guys are wearing Daisy Dukes all the time. It's quite distracting.
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Do you watch Temptation Island Australia? I have been watching it lately and I can't figure out why the guys are wearing Daisy Dukes all the time. It's quite distracting.
My girlfriend does but I haven't seen an episode for a long time. What's 'daisy dukes' anyway, if you can excuse my ignorance?
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My girlfriend does but I haven't seen an episode for a long time. What's 'daisy dukes' anyway, if you can excuse my ignorance?
Super short shorts. :-\
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Super short shorts. :-\
That sounds like bad news, I might have to have a word to the missus about why she's watching.
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That sounds like bad news, I might have to have a word to the missus about why she's watching.
Is that normal in Australia? We haven't worn shorts like that in 20+ years. Other than that it's ok, but this is the first thing I have watched from Australia since Dead Calm, and I am confused.
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Is that normal in Australia? We haven't worn shorts like that in 20+ years. Other than that it's ok, but this is the first thing I have watched from Australia since Dead Calm, and I am confused.
Not that I know of, unless they're wearing footy shorts, like the blokes on this website:
http://afl.com.au (http://afl.com.au)
I blame Daniel Craig, myself.
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Not that I know of, unless they're wearing footy shorts, like the blokes on this website:
http://afl.com.au (http://afl.com.au)
I blame Daniel Craig, myself.
Yeah, they are wearing those. I guess over there it is not so uncommon. Thanks for clearing that up, I thought for sure they were all gay.
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Yeah, they are wearing those. I guess over there it is not so uncommon. Thanks for clearing that up, I thought for sure they were all gay.
Haha, yeah don't worry, they used to be 10 times tighter back in the 80's - bad fashion indeed.
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Haha, yeah don't worry, they used to be 10 times tighter back in the 80's - bad fashion indeed.
Alright Bruce, it's still a rotten idea, but you are alright. Later.
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Alright Bruce, it's still a rotten idea, but you are alright. Later.
Okay mate, I look forward to your political posts later on.
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i missed this - cool idea bruce!
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i missed this - cool idea bruce!
Thanks, 240!
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what the hell happend to this thread, a good idea sabotaged by Team Jimmy... Danielson... Oh brother... get a life man...
I am team Cap86 and we just had a discussion, calm down.
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I am team Cap86 and we just had a discussion, calm down.
I don't think those sleeping pills are working!
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I don't think those sleeping pills are working!
Sure they are, I don't feel like arguing with anyone :)
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Sure they are, I don't feel like arguing with anyone :)
In that case - keep them coming!
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I am team Cap86 and we just had a discussion, calm down.
yea, I got to the later posts and deleted when I saw you guys had calmed down... I just figured you were trying to kill Bruce's idea. sorry.
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Ok all three mods liked this idea and it looks like most of the people who had comment had postive comment so this idea is good to go... I'm going to add it to the rules thread based on what was hashed out in this thread. This is not an added rule. More like a political forum activity that any two parties can engage in. The activity will have it's own rules for participating. Nobody has to do this, this is just a fun way to debate an opponent when two oponents want to face off on a topic and it should bring the best out of forum participants so hell yes this is a go...
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Ok all three mods liked this idea and it looks like most of the people who had comment had postive comment so this idea is good to go... I'm going to add it to the rules thread based on what was hashed out in this thread. This is not an added rule. More like a political forum activity that any two parties can engage in. The activity will have it's own rules for participating. Nobody has to do this, this is just a fun way to debate an opponent when two oponents want to face off on a topic and it should bring the best out of forum participants so hell yes this is a go...
Thanks again, Berserker - you've pretty much surmised exactly what the idea should be:
A good natured way to have a deeper intellectual debate with another member, without the need to insult or flood threads with information and posts.
Let the games begin!
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I dunno if it's a good idea or not, but I'm not gonna say it's bad either. Like danielson said, it's not cool to make someone write an essay when they disagree with you and it certainly isn't cool to slam them if they don't accept a debate.
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It's a good idea but I would call it The Pit
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I dunno if it's a good idea or not, but I'm not gonna say it's bad either. Like danielson said, it's not cool to make someone write an essay when they disagree with you and it certainly isn't cool to slam them if they don't accept a debate.
Let me make it clear we're not making anyone do anything! This only goes down if both parties agree to it, I will not defend any member that tries to force another to engage in it.
No means no, ladies.
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It's a good idea but I would call it The Pit
Bump for 'The Pit', thanks Stark.