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Title: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Luga74 on February 15, 2007, 07:25:23 PM
So did Tim Hardaway say something people WANT to say but don't or was he completely wrong..put aside they words he used..just the issue at hand..discuss
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: ChristopherA on February 15, 2007, 07:35:21 PM
Pretty much said how he felt and we all know you have to be tolerant of every friggin "disease,condition, lifestyle" people have nowdays.  Soon child molesters will have to be tolerated because "they were born that way" in the direction the pc world is going.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 15, 2007, 08:15:10 PM
So did Tim Hardaway say something people WANT to say but don't or was he completely wrong..put aside they words he used..just the issue at hand..discuss

AMAZING HOW FIRST AMMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH HAS LOST ALL OF ITS POWER.

AMERICA WITHOUT QUESTION IS ONE OF THE NATIONS PUSHING THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA MORE THAN ANY OTHER.  WITH THAT HAS BEEN THE CALL FOR HOMOSEXUALITY TO BE TOLERATED...THAT IS UNTIL SOMEONES CHILD IS MOLESTED BY A PEDOPHILE. I AGREE WITH HARDAWAY THAT KNOWING SOMEONE IS GAY WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF A PERSON OR TEAMS INTERACTION WITH THAT PERSON(S). BETTER FOR ANY CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL/LESBIAN TO REMAIN AS SUCH UNTIL THEIR DEPARTURE FROM THE SPORT...AND AFTER LEAVING THE TEAM I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO REVEAL SUCH ACTIVITIES/LIFESTYLE. WHAT WAS AMECHIS POINT IN THIS?
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Stavios on February 15, 2007, 08:16:44 PM
that dude has the right to say whatever the f**k he wants

 
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 15, 2007, 08:18:23 PM
he's an ignorant niglet... so what did you expect?
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: sandycoosworth on February 15, 2007, 08:25:26 PM
VIVA LA KRAMER
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Rich Gainihger on February 15, 2007, 08:27:10 PM
Tim Hardaway is a homosexual.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: WOOO on February 15, 2007, 08:28:44 PM
Tim Hardaway is a homosexual.

dude, you're in love!
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Luga74 on February 15, 2007, 08:46:59 PM
one thing is for sure is we here in the US have become way to PC. I am so sick of PC this and PC that. I am neither racist nor homophobic. I'm a short white italian from RI(oooh you must be in the mob everyone I used to meet would ask)...NOPE......I was raised catholic(which don't get me started on the friggin catholic church/priests-pediophilia) but I am so sick of---"it's because we're black or we're gay or you're white, your rich, I'm poor, you're republican/democrat, etc,etc)...how about we're human beings, we're just people...If I heard one more time that 2 african american coaches were in the super bowl...how about just two great coaches were in the Super Bowl. Two well respected men who were friends, are squaring off in the Super Bowl.....we're just people....no more color, creed, religion, political party etc....maybe if we here in America worried less about civil rights/liberties and put our heads together, we'd have less problems here.  Rodney King was right..."can't we all just get along!!!!" hell we all don't need to be friends, just live and stop looking to screw over the person next to you or be so quick to say..I'm being screwed for this or for that.....respect and live life to the fullest...enjoy life people....LIFE IS TOO SHORT
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 15, 2007, 09:02:48 PM
I'm really really curious to see how this pans out, John Rocker (a former MPF client ;D) was drummed out of baseball for saying things that were ten times less offensive than what Hardaway said, I worked with Rockhead for almost a year after his surgery and I can personally say that he was a 360 degree opposite of how the media portraied him.

Hardaway on the otherhand just flat out said that he HATED gays and admitted he was homophobic, if anyone should be banned in participating in ANY function related to basketball at any venue it's him, but I'll tell you this, if he does get banned from basketball and loses endorsments, I'll bet a grand right now he'll crying racism.....what a fucking loser!!
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: pumpster on February 15, 2007, 09:11:43 PM
Jimmy da Greek someone n' Rocker are having a chuckle.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: gordiano on February 15, 2007, 10:12:24 PM
one thing is for sure is we here in the US have become way to PC. I am so sick of PC this and PC that. I am neither racist nor homophobic. I'm a short white italian from RI(oooh you must be in the mob everyone I used to meet would ask)...NOPE......I was raised catholic(which don't get me started on the friggin catholic church/priests-pediophilia) but I am so sick of---"it's because we're black or we're gay or you're white, your rich, I'm poor, you're republican/democrat, etc,etc)...how about we're human beings, we're just people...If I heard one more time that 2 african american coaches were in the super bowl...how about just two great coaches were in the Super Bowl. Two well respected men who were friends, are squaring off in the Super Bowl.....we're just people....no more color, creed, religion, political party etc....maybe if we here in America worried less about civil rights/liberties and put our heads together, we'd have less problems here.  Rodney King was right..."can't we all just get along!!!!" hell we all don't need to be friends, just live and stop looking to screw over the person next to you or be so quick to say..I'm being screwed for this or for that.....respect and live life to the fullest...enjoy life people....LIFE IS TOO SHORT

I agree, man.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2007, 11:02:26 PM
I can personally say that he was a 360 degree opposite of how the media portraied him.

So he was a racist?   :D
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Tre on February 15, 2007, 11:06:01 PM
I'm really really curious to see how this pans out, John Rocker (a former MPF client ;D) was drummed out of baseball for saying things that were ten times less offensive than what Hardaway said, I worked with Rockhead for almost a year after his surgery and I can personally say that he was a 360 degree opposite of how the media portraied him.

Hardaway on the otherhand just flat out said that he HATED gays and admitted he was homophobic, if anyone should be banned in participating in ANY function related to basketball at any venue it's him, but I'll tell you this, if he does get banned from basketball and loses endorsments, I'll bet a grand right now he'll crying racism.....what a fucking loser!!

He's out.

The NBA wants nothing more to do with him.

Yes, he has the right to say whatever he wants.  And yes, the people paying him have the right to respond however they see fit and the advertisers who pay all that money to the NBA will ensure he no longer has any roles in or 'near' the league.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Hedgehog on February 16, 2007, 12:18:54 AM
Tim Hardaway is a fcuking idit.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 16, 2007, 12:47:27 AM
He's out.

The NBA wants nothing more to do with him.

Yes, he has the right to say whatever he wants.  And yes, the people paying him have the right to respond however they see fit and the advertisers who pay all that money to the NBA will ensure he no longer has any roles in or 'near' the league.

YOU JUST ENDORSED CANCELLING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH...RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T SEE IT, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE CRYING LATER FOR DOING SO.

AS IT STANDS THE ONLY THING BEING REVEALED IS HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS ARE IN PRO SPORTS...THAT INCLUDES OWNERS, PLAYERS, COACHES ETC...AND EVEN THIS MESSAGE BOARD. WHAT THIS MAN FEELS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS IS HIS OWN PEROGATIVE. TO ASK ONE'S OPINION (AS THE MEDIA DOES) ON SOMETHNG AND THEN BROADCAST IT BEFORE THE WORLD LIKE IT IS THE GREATEST EVIL EVER HAS NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. WHAT DO I CARE WHAT HE FEELS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? BETTER FOR SOMEONE TO ONLY THINK SOMETHING OF SOMEONE THAN TO HAVE THEM ACT ON THAT FEELING. AS IT STANDS THERE IS NO MORE HOSTILE NATION TO RACES, GENDERS, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, CULTURES, ETC THAN AMERICA, SO TO SEE THIS "REACTION" IS LAUGHABLE AT BEST. MAYBE THE NBA SUPPORTS JEFF GANNON AND THE WASHINGTON DC HOMOSEXUALS LIKE JOHN CRISP, DENNIS HASTERT, MARK FOLEY, JIM MCGREEVY AND THE ALL TOO MANY CLOSET CASES THAT RUN GOVERNMENT. FUNNY..BILL CLINTON WAS ALL BUT CASTRATED OVER MONICA LEWINSKI....MAYBE MONICA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MAN AND BILL WOULD BE A HERO TODAY.

WELCOME TO GAY USA HOME OF THE GAY NBA
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 12:57:12 AM
YOU JUST ENDORSED CANCELLING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH...RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T SEE IT, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE CRYING LATER FOR DOING SO.

AS IT STANDS THE ONLY THING BEING REVEALED IS HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS ARE IN PRO SPORTS...THAT INCLUDES OWNERS, PLAYERS, COACHES ETC...AND EVEN THIS MESSAGE BOARD. WHAT THIS MAN FEELS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS IS HIS OWN PEROGATIVE. TO ASK ONE'S OPINION (AS THE MEDIA DOES) ON SOMETHNG AND THEN BROADCAST IT BEFORE THE WORLD LIKE IT IS THE GREATEST EVIL EVER HAS NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. WHAT DO I CARE WHAT HE FEELS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? BETTER FOR SOMEONE TO ONLY THINK SOMETHING OF SOMEONE THAN TO HAVE THEM ACT ON THAT FEELING. AS IT STANDS THERE IS NO MORE HOSTILE NATION TO RACES, GENDERS, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, CULTURES, ETC THAN AMERICA, SO TO SEE THIS "REACTION" IS LAUGHABLE AT BEST. MAYBE THE NBA SUPPORTS JEFF GANNON AND THE WASHINGTON DC HOMOSEXUALS LIKE JOHN CRISP, DENNIS HASTERT, MARK FOLEY, JIM MCGREEVY AND THE ALL TOO MANY CLOSET CASES THAT RUN GOVERNMENT. FUNNY..BILL CLINTON WAS ALL BUT CASTRATED OVER MONICA LEWINSKI....MAYBE MONICA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MAN AND BILL WOULD BE A HERO TODAY.

WELCOME TO GAY USA HOME OF THE GAY NBA

Wow... I hate the all CAPS... but on some level you're kind of right.

What if you say something and it gets put in a paper... whatever it is, but your boss doesn't like it, so he can fire you?

Now granted, most of us are fortunate (or is it unfortunate) enough to not be famous, so no one asks our opinion on shit, however, imagine if they did... You said something and it upset a group of people, so you get fired... The group that you may have spent 1/2 your life being involved with basically turns its nose up at you from now on.

I don't think that's very cool for speaking your mind...

I don't agree with what he said, but I defend his right to say it without exception and without fear of retaliation from any person or group.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Hedgehog on February 16, 2007, 01:04:09 AM
YOU JUST ENDORSED CANCELLING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH...RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T SEE IT, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE CRYING LATER FOR DOING SO.

AS IT STANDS THE ONLY THING BEING REVEALED IS HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS ARE IN PRO SPORTS...THAT INCLUDES OWNERS, PLAYERS, COACHES ETC...AND EVEN THIS MESSAGE BOARD. WHAT THIS MAN FEELS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS IS HIS OWN PEROGATIVE. TO ASK ONE'S OPINION (AS THE MEDIA DOES) ON SOMETHNG AND THEN BROADCAST IT BEFORE THE WORLD LIKE IT IS THE GREATEST EVIL EVER HAS NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. WHAT DO I CARE WHAT HE FEELS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? BETTER FOR SOMEONE TO ONLY THINK SOMETHING OF SOMEONE THAN TO HAVE THEM ACT ON THAT FEELING. AS IT STANDS THERE IS NO MORE HOSTILE NATION TO RACES, GENDERS, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, CULTURES, ETC THAN AMERICA, SO TO SEE THIS "REACTION" IS LAUGHABLE AT BEST. MAYBE THE NBA SUPPORTS JEFF GANNON AND THE WASHINGTON DC HOMOSEXUALS LIKE JOHN CRISP, DENNIS HASTERT, MARK FOLEY, JIM MCGREEVY AND THE ALL TOO MANY CLOSET CASES THAT RUN GOVERNMENT. FUNNY..BILL CLINTON WAS ALL BUT CASTRATED OVER MONICA LEWINSKI....MAYBE MONICA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MAN AND BILL WOULD BE A HERO TODAY.

WELCOME TO GAY USA HOME OF THE GAY NBA

The NBA has the right to get rid of any fag-haters. It's their prerogative.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 01:33:48 AM
The NBA has the right to get rid of any fag-haters. It's their prerogative.

-Hedge

Everyone has a prerogative I suppose.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: rockyfortune on February 16, 2007, 04:10:54 AM
he's got a right to say whatever he wants..no matter how stupid it is...

he's won my vote for moron of the year for saying it on open radio.



Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Tre on February 16, 2007, 04:42:59 AM
YOU JUST ENDORSED CANCELLING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH...RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T SEE IT, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE CRYING LATER FOR DOING SO.

Your right to say what you want goes hand-in-hand with your right to deal with the consequences that may result from whatever you choose to say.

He will not be imprisoned for what he said, but the companies he currently works for have every right to decline his services in the future.

We enjoy plenty of freedoms here, but making inappropriate comments in a public forum can - and should - carry undesirable consequences.  Regardless of the target group, Americans hate the word 'hate'. 
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2007, 07:34:17 AM
Your right to say what you want goes hand-in-hand with your right to deal with the consequences that may result from whatever you choose to say.

He will not be imprisoned for what he said, but the companies he currently works for have every right to decline his services in the future.

We enjoy plenty of freedoms here, but making inappropriate comments in a public forum can - and should - carry undesirable consequences.  Regardless of the target group, Americans hate the word 'hate'. 

Well said.  I agree.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: sandycoosworth on February 16, 2007, 07:35:47 AM
So did Tim Hardaway say something people WANT to say but don't or was he completely wrong..put aside they words he used..just the issue at hand..discuss

im just as proud of tim as i was of kramer ... both champions for a day who pussied out the next!

Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 16, 2007, 09:07:51 AM
So he was a racist?   :D

Math was never a strong point for me, how about a complete 180 :-\?
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 16, 2007, 09:10:16 AM
BTW, why is this thread on the political board?
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2007, 09:17:41 AM
Math was never a strong point for me, how about a complete 180 :-\?

Ding! ;D  Me neither.  There is a reason I didn't go to engineering school.   :) 
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 16, 2007, 09:34:40 AM
Your right to say what you want goes hand-in-hand with your right to deal with the consequences that may result from whatever you choose to say.

He will not be imprisoned for what he said, but the companies he currently works for have every right to decline his services in the future.

We enjoy plenty of freedoms here, but making inappropriate comments in a public forum can - and should - carry undesirable consequences.  Regardless of the target group, Americans hate the word 'hate'. 

SO YOU ARE ALL FOR RESTRICTION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH?? DESPITE WHAT MAY BE SAID, THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS PROTECTED. WHY DO YOU THINK GROUPS LIKE THE KKK OR SKIN HEADS OR MILITIA ARE ALLOWED TO SAY AND DO AS THEY PLEASE WITHOUT REPERCUSSION. AS I SAID EARLIER YOU WILL CRY LATER FOR AGREEING TO SUCH THINGS NOW. IT IS A GRADUAL WAY OF REMOVING YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHT COMPLETELY..UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING SOMEONE ELSES FEELINGS. AS SOMEONE ELSE POSTED SOON WE WILL BE UNABLE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST A PEDOPHILE OR RAPIST DUE TO THEIR FEELINGS BEING HURT.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 16, 2007, 11:49:57 AM
He's out.

The NBA wants nothing more to do with him.

Yes, he has the right to say whatever he wants.  And yes, the people paying him have the right to respond however they see fit and the advertisers who pay all that money to the NBA will ensure he no longer has any roles in or 'near' the league.

Exactly! People have the right to respond the way they see fit.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: OzmO on February 16, 2007, 11:57:43 AM
SO YOU ARE ALL FOR RESTRICTION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH?? DESPITE WHAT MAY BE SAID, THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS PROTECTED. WHY DO YOU THINK GROUPS LIKE THE KKK OR SKIN HEADS OR MILITIA ARE ALLOWED TO SAY AND DO AS THEY PLEASE WITHOUT REPERCUSSION. AS I SAID EARLIER YOU WILL CRY LATER FOR AGREEING TO SUCH THINGS NOW. IT IS A GRADUAL WAY OF REMOVING YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHT COMPLETELY..UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING SOMEONE ELSES FEELINGS. AS SOMEONE ELSE POSTED SOON WE WILL BE UNABLE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST A PEDOPHILE OR RAPIST DUE TO THEIR FEELINGS BEING HURT.

What's happening to Tim is purely economical on the NBA's part.  A group or organization has the right to not support and or condone a person's behavior and the NBA is right in doing what they are doing.

This is NOT the US government telling Tim what he can or cannot say.

Aside from his comments being completely irresponsible he's put himself in a very bad position publicly-wise and sent the message that's it's OK to bash GAYs
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: drkaje on February 16, 2007, 02:08:01 PM
So honesty is a crime now? Didn't agree with his statements but it was refreshing as hell to hear someone actually answer a question and not say what people want to hear.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: OzmO on February 16, 2007, 02:25:39 PM
So honesty is a crime now? Didn't agree with his statements but it was refreshing as hell to hear someone actually answer a question and not say what people want to hear.

It's not a crime, but it honesty doesn't come without it's consequences.   I don't anyone here is saying that.  He has every right to say what ever he thinks, just as the people who pay him have every right to protect their interests.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2007, 02:30:36 PM
What's happening to Tim is purely economical on the NBA's part.  A group or organization has the right to not support and or condone a person's behavior and the NBA is right in doing what they are doing.

This is NOT the US government telling Tim what he can or cannot say.

Aside from his comments being completely irresponsible he's put himself in a very bad position publicly-wise and sent the message that's it's OK to bash GAYs

I agree with this.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: GroinkTropin on February 16, 2007, 04:06:23 PM
I commend him, he said what we all feel. I fucking sick and tired of homosexuals, and STOP CALLING THEM FUCKING GAY. THAT IS A PLAY ON WORDS THAT LIBERALS USE TO DECEIVE YOU. Gay means happy, having a "gay" time etc, they are not GAY they are HOMOSEXUALS. Fags, queers perverts whatever you want to call them please stop calling them gay. It's disturbing to me how tolerant our society has become, its no wonder muslims hate us. Can all the muslim terrorists reading this board please in the future target homosexuals and sesspools like hollywood please? Thanks in advance  ;D
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
I commend him, he said what we all feel. I fucking sick and tired of homosexuals, and STOP CALLING THEM FUCKING GAY. THAT IS A PLAY ON WORDS THAT LIBERALS USE TO DECEIVE YOU. Gay means happy, having a "gay" time etc, they are not GAY they are HOMOSEXUALS. Fags, queers perverts whatever you want to call them please stop calling them gay. It's disturbing to me how tolerant our society has become, its no wonder muslims hate us. Can all the muslim terrorists reading this board please in the future target homosexuals and sesspools like hollywood please? Thanks in advance  ;D

You do realize the economic impact the destruction of Hollywood would have on the US economy right?
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Tre on February 16, 2007, 06:11:37 PM
SO YOU ARE ALL FOR RESTRICTION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH?? DESPITE WHAT MAY BE SAID, THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS PROTECTED. WHY DO YOU THINK GROUPS LIKE THE KKK OR SKIN HEADS OR MILITIA ARE ALLOWED TO SAY AND DO AS THEY PLEASE WITHOUT REPERCUSSION. AS I SAID EARLIER YOU WILL CRY LATER FOR AGREEING TO SUCH THINGS NOW. IT IS A GRADUAL WAY OF REMOVING YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHT COMPLETELY..UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING SOMEONE ELSES FEELINGS. AS SOMEONE ELSE POSTED SOON WE WILL BE UNABLE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST A PEDOPHILE OR RAPIST DUE TO THEIR FEELINGS BEING HURT.

You don't understand what the first amendment is all about. 

By 'protected', it means that you will not be prosecuted (except in the rarest of circumstances) by the authorities.  It does not, however, mean that individuals and groups who disagree with you must continue to do business with you.

Just as Mr. Hardaway expressed his right to free speech, so, too, did the NBA.   
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Tre on February 16, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
I commend him, he said what we all feel. I fucking sick and tired of homosexuals, and STOP CALLING THEM FUCKING GAY. THAT IS A PLAY ON WORDS THAT LIBERALS USE TO DECEIVE YOU. Gay means happy, having a "gay" time etc, they are not GAY they are HOMOSEXUALS. Fags, queers perverts whatever you want to call them please stop calling them gay. It's disturbing to me how tolerant our society has become, its no wonder muslims hate us. Can all the muslim terrorists reading this board please in the future target homosexuals and sesspools like hollywood please? Thanks in advance  ;D

You christians suck ass.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: bmacsys on February 16, 2007, 06:14:37 PM
I'm really really curious to see how this pans out, John Rocker (a former MPF client ;D) was drummed out of baseball for saying things that were ten times less offensive than what Hardaway said, I worked with Rockhead for almost a year after his surgery and I can personally say that he was a 360 degree opposite of how the media portraied him.

Hardaway on the otherhand just flat out said that he HATED gays and admitted he was homophobic, if anyone should be banned in participating in ANY function related to basketball at any venue it's him, but I'll tell you this, if he does get banned from basketball and loses endorsments, I'll bet a grand right now he'll crying racism.....what a fucking loser!!

Rocker hated people due to race which is a little more serious than some dumb gay-bashing. People were enslaved and killed just because of their skin color for hundreds of years. I really don't think you can just assume Hardaway will play the race card. Sounds like John Rocker's thinking rubbed off on you man.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 16, 2007, 07:14:33 PM
Rocker hated people due to race which is a little more serious than some dumb gay-bashing. People were enslaved and killed just because of their skin color for hundreds of years. I really don't think you can just assume Hardaway will play the race card. Sounds like John Rocker's thinking rubbed off on you man.

No, Rocker didn't rub off on me, but I do know that the media took his remarks way out of context and he tried to explain that wasn't what he meant, Hardaway on the otherhand, blantently came out and said he hated gays, gay shouldn't exist and there was no place in America for them!!
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: 240 is Back on February 16, 2007, 07:23:11 PM
No, Rocker didn't rub off on me, but I do know that the media took his remarks way out of context and he tried to explain that wasn't what he meant,

Below is Rocker's teammate Randall Simon.

John Rocker called him a "fat monkey".  Source here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rocker#Controversy)


How was this taken out of context?

(http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/july02/detroit/simon3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: GroinkTropin on February 16, 2007, 07:53:44 PM
You christians suck ass.

Im not a christian dipshit.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: GroinkTropin on February 16, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
You do realize the economic impact the destruction of Hollywood would have on the US economy right?

Yeah a good one, please diehard liberal please do explain why youre beloved shithole that is hollywood is somehow important to this country.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 09:57:59 PM
Yeah a good one, please diehard liberal please do explain why youre beloved shithole that is hollywood is somehow important to this country.


You certainly do start calling names don't you... I'm hardly a diehard liberal as my posting record would show... maybe if you did research (even just briefly) on an individuals thoughts BEFORE you cast dispersions you might have something to go on.

Just because I think George W. Bush is an idiot does not make me a "Liberal" as you put it... It simply shows that I call a duck a duck.

The reality as that the income produced by Hollywood (domestic alone) is almost 10 Billion dollars, which would put Hollywood around number 100 on the GDP of all countries in the world.

Which is not too bad.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: GroinkTropin on February 16, 2007, 11:04:16 PM

You certainly do start calling names don't you... I'm hardly a diehard liberal as my posting record would show... maybe if you did research (even just briefly) on an individuals thoughts BEFORE you cast dispersions you might have something to go on.

Just because I think George W. Bush is an idiot does not make me a "Liberal" as you put it... It simply shows that I call a duck a duck.

The reality as that the income produced by Hollywood (domestic alone) is almost 10 Billion dollars, which would put Hollywood around number 100 on the GDP of all countries in the world.

Which is not too bad.

I didnt infer that your criticism about bush made you left, you just seemed like it. My apologies :) I hate bush to the fullest, he is a total sellout and has done this country no good whatsoever. Hollywood brings in 10bil domestic, how does that help the economy? So actors can get rich as well as the producers? Hollywood is a sesspool of drugs sex and violence, how much good do you think it really does? Not to mention the rest of the world tends to judge us very harshly precisely because their views on us as a nation tend to come from hollywood, that being the best window they have to view us as a society.
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 11:10:51 PM
I didnt infer that your criticism about bush made you left, you just seemed like it. My apologies :) I hate bush to the fullest, he is a total sellout and has done this country no good whatsoever. Hollywood brings in 10bil domestic, how does that help the economy? So actors can get rich as well as the producers? Hollywood is a sesspool of drugs sex and violence, how much good do you think it really does? Not to mention the rest of the world tends to judge us very harshly precisely because their views on us as a nation tend to come from hollywood, that being the best window they have to view us as a society.

Hollywood is not "all" bad... You have to remember that that 10Billion does stretch out into other things.

For instance I work for a place that has projects on tap with Steven Spielburg... he made his money in Hollywood and now is branching out.

He is helping to feed me and my family.

There are MANY more people behind the scenes who get paid and live modest lives thanks to that Hollywood money.

If people judge us based upon Hollywood, that seems to be their issue... I do not judge everyone in Iraq by how many clips I see of people bombing other people (or at least the aftermath). As a matter of fact what little judgment I may have in regards to Iraq is quickly lost because I really don't care about them all that much.

If people care more about this country than what is going on in their own country, that's kind of sad...
Title: Re: Tim Hardaway.........
Post by: GroinkTropin on February 16, 2007, 11:17:35 PM
Hollywood is not "all" bad... You have to remember that that 10Billion does stretch out into other things.

For instance I work for a place that has projects on tap with Steven Spielburg... he made his money in Hollywood and now is branching out.

He is helping to feed me and my family.

There are MANY more people behind the scenes who get paid and live modest lives thanks to that Hollywood money.

If people judge us based upon Hollywood, that seems to be their issue... I do not judge everyone in Iraq by how many clips I see of people bombing other people (or at least the aftermath). As a matter of fact what little judgment I may have in regards to Iraq is quickly lost because I really don't care about them all that much.

If people care more about this country than what is going on in their own country, that's kind of sad...

NH sir, I have no rebuttal. I just don't like the direction hollywood is going, but I guess things could always be worse.