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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: bassmaster on February 17, 2007, 03:56:14 AM
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here it go boys, I'm "kick starting" my cycle with 50 mgs d-bol. wanting to continue the use of the d a little longer or thinking of switching over to var then finshing off the cycle with some stanzo.. my cycle will last 16 weeks and consists of 500 mgs test-e ew, 300mgs deca ew, .5mgs adex eod...... ? to the crew would be " whats the longest you'll run 17a orals in a cycle?"
:-Kiss my liver goodbye :-X
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i know eight weeks should be the max, but somebody out their must have went past.
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6 weeks MAX
Its for exactly what you said. "Kick starting your cycle" By the end of week 4-5 the Test and Deca is well into your system.
Save it for your next cycle.
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thanks.
going to bump up the test/deca ratio to 2:1
i think i need to get a little more focused on my cardio but thats for another board.
much respect.
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here it go boys, I'm "kick starting" my cycle with 50 mgs d-bol. wanting to continue the use of the d a little longer or thinking of switching over to var then finshing off the cycle with some stanzo.. my cycle will last 16 weeks and consists of 500 mgs test-e ew, 300mgs deca ew, .5mgs adex eod...... ? to the crew would be " whats the longest you'll run 17a orals in a cycle?"
:-Kiss my liver goodbye :-X
The 17AA quotient of oral is highly overrated.
As long as you aren't megadosing them, you'll be fine for a cycle, even if you run them the whole way.
Drink alot of water and keep account of how dark your urine stays....
If it's light yellow, that's fine, but if it gets to a dark orange and stays that way, you'll need to stop the orals.
DIV
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I usually run them 10 weeks or so.
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For me no more than six weeks tops! Not willing to risk anything more...
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most ever was 4 weeks of 40mgs of dbol at the beginning of a cycle....finishing with 3 weeks of 25mgs of dbol. it was a 16 week cycle.
thats it......pretty tame
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I've run a cycle with 3 orals (plus injectables) for 10 weeks+ with no problems at all, had my liver values (and all blood work) checked about 9 weeks into the cycle and my liver and kidney values were spot on PERFECT, so I definetly agree that the liver/17a thing is highly overrated (unless we're talking about anadrol).
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4-6 months. 40mg var ED with my injects. Blood work done mid way. Liver values were highish, bit within range. 1+ gal water ED, milk thistle, etc.
D
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4 weeks. however if you get bloodwork done after 4 weeks and everything looks good 6-8 weeks is ok.
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I've run Tbol for nine or ten weeks before. I also feel the toxicity of 17aa orals to be overrated (as long as you're not megadosing).