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Title: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 24KT on February 17, 2007, 06:29:45 PM

Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans

DAMASCUS, Syria — In the early hours of Jan. 6, Laith al-Ani stood in a jail near the Baghdad airport waiting to be released by the American military after two years and three months in captivity.

He struggled to quell his hope. Other prisoners had gotten as far as the gate only to be brought back inside, he said, and he feared that would happen to him as punishment for letting his family discuss his case with a reporter.

But as the morning light grew, the American guards moved Mr. Ani, a 31-year-old father of two young children, methodically toward freedom. They swapped his yellow prison suit for street clothes, he said. They snipped off his white plastic identification bracelet. They scanned his irises into their database.

Then, shortly before 9 a.m., Mr. Ani said, he was brought to a table for one last step. He was handed a form and asked to place a check mark next to the sentence that best described how he had been treated:

“I didn’t go through any abuse during detention,” read the first option, in Arabic.

“I have gone through abuse during detention,” read the second.

In the room, he said, stood three American guards carrying the type of electric stun devices that Mr. Ani and other detainees said had been used on them for infractions as minor as speaking out of turn....  story continues... (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/world/middleeast/18bucca.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all)
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2007, 11:42:19 PM
But we don't torture, right? ;)
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:05:37 AM
Oh no... not us... we use "coercive tactics"
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 12:10:11 AM
Oh no... not us... we use "coercive tactics"

I prefer to call it "creative cooperation".

To question it is to support saddam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:12:42 AM
I prefer to call it "creative cooperation".

To question it is to support saddam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd support him, but I hate holding up "dead weight".
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 12:15:34 AM
I'd support him, but I hate holding up "dead weight".

if you vote dem, you love terrorists and want to kiss terrorists and want to marry terrorists.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:19:19 AM
if you vote dem, you love terrorists and want to kiss terrorists and want to marry terrorists.

Define "terrorist" today the Revolutionary War would be a terrorist act.

Is the terrorist a HOT terrorist with a smokin' body? I mean... I don't think that Al Quaeda realizes that if they produce enough hot chicks, they could rule the world... Although Iceland hasn't done it yet, it's just a matter of time for them.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 12:21:49 AM
if you vote dem then you like to punt kittens.


do you like to punt kittens?  No.  then vote bush!
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:22:42 AM
if you vote dem then you like to punt kittens.


do you like to punt kittens?  No.  then vote bush!

No!!! I vote for shaved!!! No Bush!!
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 03:35:23 AM
Lefties... how can you believe this man is talking 100% truth in the isolated incident?

How come anyone who remotely believes anything from the US government as truth gets heckled by you jokers?
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 07:11:26 AM
Lefties... how can you believe this man is talking 100% truth in the isolated incident?

Do you 100% believe he's lying?
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: mightymouse72 on February 18, 2007, 07:22:26 AM
when i clicked to continue story and saw the NYtimes,

i considered the source.


blah, blah blah
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 07:31:41 AM
when i clicked to continue story and saw the NYtimes,

i considered the source.


blah, blah blah

Do you believe the NYT fabricated this story, mightymouse?
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 08:31:41 AM
Do you 100% believe he's lying?

Yeah I'm pretty confident he's lying.

You just have no grounds to stand on with stories like this.

The majority of Iraqis don't like America, but still it's impossible that, that FACT is skewing the info this prisoner is giving.

No no, that's not even considerable by unintelligent fools like yourself 240.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 08:41:46 AM
Yeah I'm pretty confident he's lying.
You just have no grounds to stand on with stories like this.
The majority of Iraqis don't like America, but still it's impossible that, that FACT is skewing the info this prisoner is giving.

Please list your grounds that this man is lying.

No no, that's not even considerable by unintelligent fools like yourself 240.

Are you as confident this man is lying, as you are that I am unintelligent?
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 08:53:04 AM
Please list your grounds that this man is lying.

Are you as confident this man is lying, as you are that I am unintelligent?

Well, your unintelligence is a fact, so my confidence in it being true doesn't change it :-*

Reasons he's lying are mainly the social enviroment of iraq at this present time.

Q: Is the man telling the gospel truth... e.g. is he not skewing ANY info? Is he being conservative in his claims of torture? Or is his info liberally skewed with bullshit? Hmm... ::)
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: youandme on February 18, 2007, 08:58:17 AM
Lefties... how can you believe this man is talking 100% truth in the isolated incident?

How come anyone who remotely believes anything from the US government as truth gets heckled by you jokers?

Well some documents have been declassified so if you want the truth it's right there.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 09:02:36 AM
Well, your unintelligence is a fact, so my confidence in it being true doesn't change it :-*

Well, I could spend the day proving ya wrong- IQ tests and my grad degree.  But hey, you know it for a fact so I'll let you keep that great feeling.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 09:11:14 AM
Well, I could spend the day proving ya wrong- IQ tests and my grad degree.  But hey, you know it for a fact so I'll let you keep that great feeling.

IQ tests? Ok, prove me wrong. Also prove to me that intelligence is measureable.

PS. Everyone on Getbig has an IQ of 140+, so make sure you make the grade old man.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 09:14:36 AM
IQ tests? Ok, prove me wrong. Also prove to me that intelligence is measureable.

PS. Everyone on Getbig has an IQ of 140+, so make sure you make the grade old man.

Man, you're embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Jailed 2 Years, Iraqi Tells of Abuse by Americans
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 09:18:23 AM
Man, you're embarrassing yourself.

Yeah man, my face has gone all red ::)

Seriously, i'd like to know how intelligence is measureable? ???