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Title: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: davidpaul on February 18, 2007, 04:31:27 AM
he has weak legs, no detail at all from the side in the legs, has a back weaker than strydom and dillet, just big ass gunzzzzz

Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on February 18, 2007, 04:37:04 AM
amen terrible terrible legs from the side and rear

ta ta
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: kyomu on February 18, 2007, 04:59:58 AM
Typical example of body which looks good in the gym but looks bad on stage.
I am sorry for him.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 18, 2007, 05:10:31 AM
Frank.... Matt C is crushed right now, he is crying his heart out, splooge-covered roll of kleenex in one hand, autographed poster of frank in the other...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: UK Gold on February 18, 2007, 06:23:16 AM
He looks terrible compared to real bodybuilders, but he has the ideal physique for wrassling or being a bad guy in movies. He needs to reasses his goals. But fuck, awesome arms!
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 18, 2007, 06:27:22 AM
Yeah... but I bet in a club or any setting other than a BB stage, Frank has no trouble pulling more hot chicks than any of the guys who beat him. He's got height, looks, muscles, without being "grotesque" in the eyes of the general female public..
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: GoneAway on February 18, 2007, 06:44:12 AM
All arms.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Pollux on February 18, 2007, 06:56:55 AM
His physique is awesome for a guy to be walking the streets, but for him to be up there on stage against the others in a show such as the Ironman, that cat just ain't complete.  :-\
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 18, 2007, 06:59:26 AM
Check out his jaw. It's probably the biggest on that stage!
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: swilkins1984 on February 18, 2007, 07:08:38 AM
He should hook up with Milos. Milos' athletes looked amazing at the Ironman. All he needs to go is dry up those legs and work on widening the back.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: benjamin pearson on February 18, 2007, 07:19:06 AM
Terrible hamstrings
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: MAXX on February 18, 2007, 07:39:54 AM
yeah pretty shitty legs and back by pro bb standards.

alltough i would still much rather have Franks physique then 95% of the gutmonsters
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: insidescoop on February 19, 2007, 09:29:25 AM
see guys....take your ANIMAL PAKS and you too can have the personality of a piece of driftwood, and do so bad in a show that you dont even show up for the finals!  I met him once.....mr charisma he is not!
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Karl Kox on February 19, 2007, 09:31:11 AM
Typical example of body which looks good in the gym but looks bad on stage.
I am sorry for him.

I agee some pics I have seen of him in the gym look great
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: IceCold on February 19, 2007, 09:45:05 AM
Yeah... but I bet in a club or any setting other than a BB stage, Frank has no trouble pulling more hot chicks than any of the guys who beat him. He's got height, looks, muscles, without being "grotesque" in the eyes of the general female public..


thats great and all but not when you're trying to win shows and be a champion.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Moen on February 19, 2007, 09:46:28 AM
So far for the hardcore journey on animalpak.com
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: D_1000 on February 19, 2007, 10:26:40 AM
amen terrible terrible legs from the side and rear

ta ta

Never mind the legs. Check out the rear lat spread. WTF?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: tommywishbone on February 19, 2007, 10:32:04 AM
Ouch. That rear-lat-spread sucks. Those legs can come up, but that taper is nonexistent.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 19, 2007, 11:48:24 AM
Frank McGrath was last because he didn't finish the show.  Did round one and something happenned to him that caused him to drop out.  Unsure as to what it was
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Blockhead on February 19, 2007, 12:04:36 PM
So far for the hardcore journey on animalpak.com
'The Journey' has been on that website for like...a year and it was supposed to be 16 weeks.

 Notice that all the 'Animal' dvds are McGrath training upper-body ONLY. I bet they never come out with 'Animal LEGS'. If so...they'll have like...'Ladiner' instead of McGrath.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 19, 2007, 12:06:53 PM
Anyone who is complaining about Frank's back can look at Omar Deckard's... now that is a big OUCH!!!
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Stark on February 19, 2007, 12:33:41 PM
Frank McGrath was last because he didn't finish the show.  Did round one and something happenned to him that caused him to drop out.  Unsure as to what it was

How is diet comming along bro?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Moen on February 19, 2007, 12:42:23 PM
'The Journey' has been on that website for like...a year and it was supposed to be 16 weeks.

 Notice that all the 'Animal' dvds are McGrath training upper-body ONLY. I bet they never come out with 'Animal LEGS'. If so...they'll have like...'Ladiner' instead of McGrath.

Seems like a perfectly wasted year then  ;D
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: bmacsys on February 19, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
Besides having no lats Frank's lower back is non-existant. Matt was comparing Frank's v-taper to Sergio's a while back. Frank could hide behind Sergio.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 19, 2007, 02:23:33 PM
hahahahhahaaa I agree with u totally matt c...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on February 19, 2007, 02:27:32 PM
I would still rather look like him than most pros.  Who is with me on this?  I would rather be 5'11 and 240 shredded with a tiny waist like his than 5'5 and 200 or 5'7 and 240, with a big waist and GH gut.

 :-X



would you wanna be 6'6 275lbs, or be 5'10 231lbs?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: omg on February 19, 2007, 02:35:08 PM
frank dont look as bad as you guys say there... still looks good to me even though some parts are abit lagging..he will improve with time he's quite new to pro ranks
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: nycbull on February 19, 2007, 03:12:06 PM
Unfortunately arms are just not valued as much in bb anymore. They use to be the symbol of bodybuilding and the reason for most fans interest, but now they are gettin overshadowed and lost to huge synthol filled oversized delts. And forearms were never very valued in BB or considered much in judgeing. Too bad. 
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: The.Giant on February 19, 2007, 03:49:01 PM
5'10 and 231...didn't you see that Moore's commercial with the tall guy hitting his head on everything?  :-X

You don't hit your head on too much stuff at 6'6". You can still clear most doorways  ;D
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Below Me on February 19, 2007, 03:52:40 PM
Guess he needs to spend the rent money on something more than Animal products.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: cqfd on February 19, 2007, 07:26:28 PM
Yeah... but I bet in a club or any setting other than a BB stage, Frank has no trouble pulling more hot chicks than any of the guys who beat him. He's got height, looks, muscles, without being "grotesque" in the eyes of the general female public..

yeah let's be real, most on the guys placing high in contests look quite stupid "on the street", like muscled obeses.
It's like models. Their extremely thin physiques make them look good on podiums but is that the kind of chicks you really want in your bed?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: jr on February 19, 2007, 10:34:20 PM
Monster receding hairline.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: oakleyreplicas on February 20, 2007, 12:13:50 AM
Frank has the smallest waist in the IFBB today, bar none.   He doesn't abuse GH/ insulin.  Looks fantastic.  A year of work on the back and he owns most pros. 
Judging and callouts were messed up at this show.... Compare 2nd place Dugdale to Last callout McGrath.  Are you telling me this difference warrents those placings???  I don't believe so.

Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: The.Giant on February 20, 2007, 12:32:52 AM
That picture doesn't do dugdales conditioning justice.

He complete owned Frank on back and lower body (especialliy hams) conditioning.

Also, Dugdale got a gift with 2nd.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Moen on February 20, 2007, 03:49:34 AM
Frank has the smallest waist in the IFBB today, bar none.   He doesn't abuse GH/ insulin.  Looks fantastic.  A year of work on the back and he owns most pros. 
Judging and callouts were messed up at this show.... Compare 2nd place Dugdale to Last callout McGrath.  Are you telling me this difference warrents those placings???  I don't believe so.



Have to say that is some fishy judging

Even if his backside was that bad, he still owns dugdale on 50% of the body (the front) so ?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 20, 2007, 04:33:55 AM
Frank McGrath DROPPED OUT AFTER ROUND ONE!!!  He would have finished very well most likely but he dropped out. 
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: pumpster on February 20, 2007, 05:12:00 AM
I would still rather look like him than most pros.  Who is with me on this? 
Actually this has been said over and over by many, already.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: pumpster on February 20, 2007, 05:12:54 AM
Unfortunately arms are just not valued as much in bb anymore.
No, it's just that other muscles are expected to be as good. In the old daze greater imbalance was acceptable, for example less developed legs.

He might have to get on the GH bandwagon in a bigger way to catch up. Probably not worth it.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 20, 2007, 05:16:07 AM
You dickriders always get called out hahahahahahahaa
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: The.Giant on February 20, 2007, 05:29:14 AM
Frank McGrath DROPPED OUT AFTER ROUND ONE!!!  He would have finished very well most likely but he dropped out. 

Wrong. He was tied for last with 80 points after pre-judging.

Hope he continues to compete. Guy is the closest thing to an Ironager we have left. If he adds hamstrings/calves and gets his conditioning better he'll do great.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on February 22, 2007, 08:01:07 AM
So what is Vince talking about?  Is he on crack?  ???

no, poo behind eye socket
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Adam Empire on February 22, 2007, 09:04:44 AM
He is taking forehead growth to a new level.  Hello conehead.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Parker on February 22, 2007, 09:17:55 AM
Actually, his back is more detailed than Jay Cutler's...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Chick on February 22, 2007, 09:21:32 AM
Lets not get crazy, boys...Frank is a decent bb, but he was nowhere near Mark.

Franks strength is also his weakness...arms. good from the front, not so good from the rear.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: donrhummy on February 22, 2007, 09:23:48 AM
And stubbs and abbew had great legs?  ::)

No one is saying Frank deserved a top 3 placing but he should have been 9-10.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Chick on February 22, 2007, 09:27:43 AM
And stubbs and abbew had great legs?  ::)

No one is saying Frank deserved a top 3 placing but he should have been 9-10.

Stubbs no...Abbew wasnt as bad as your making him out to be. Frank was notonly weak from the back, but soft as well and lacking width, he's very narrow...Stubbs and Abbew are wide as a country mile...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: donrhummy on February 22, 2007, 11:04:23 AM
Stubbs no...Abbew wasnt as bad as your making him out to be. Frank was notonly weak from the back, but soft as well and lacking width, he's very narrow...Stubbs and Abbew are wide as a country mile...

Agreed on Stubbs/Abbew being wide, but I think their lack of proportion was overlooked more than Frank's. Again, I'm not saying Frank should have beaten Abbew, but I think Abbew/Stubbs got cut more slack than Frank did.

Also I agree that Frank's back is not wide enough but he's got big enough delts and a small enough waist that he's not that narrow if he just brings up his lats. Frank also has no gut, which in today's BB world should count for something (especially on a guy with a fair amount of muscle).
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: oakleyreplicas on February 22, 2007, 12:03:28 PM
I don't think that anyone is really debating weather or not Frank should have placed in the top 3, 5, or whatever.  But to have him last callouts is not right..... just like alot of other missed calls at this show.  Alot of people didn't get a fair placing or cllout at this show, and I believe everyone knows that.  It was not just Frank. 

But, her is something to ponder.....   The IFBB has been preaching how many years now about the big guts, and how they will not be rewarded in competition...... they say a tight waist waist will be rewarded, but  is it?  No, thats very obvious. 

It seems like a continuous cycle....

1. BODYBUILDERS NEED TO BE AS BIG AS NEXT GUY.... TAKES GH/SLIN..... GETS BIG MUSCLES AND BIG GUT. 
OR
2. BODYBUILDER HAS TINY WAIST, GREAT TAPER, ALOT SMALLER WAIST WITH SLIGHTLY SMALLER MUSCLES.


What do the judges want?!...... for the most part (and I know I'm being very general here), the guy who is not abousing gh/slin/igf, is going to have smaller muscles.  If the IFBB judges are saying to bring down the waists, that in turn is going to lead to smaller muscles overall, and smaller waists.

This, imo, is what McGrath is representing.  He represents what the IFBB "SAYS" they want.  That is why I believe that McGrath is talked about alot on the Internet and appears to have a strong following for a virtual unknown. Yes, he still needs to make improvements but he is still a young kid.  I believe the success McGrath has depends on if the Judges live up to what they claim.

Here's a video of Frank Mcgrath at the Ironman. I believe he is todays modern Ironage bodybuilder. Check out the vid.
Peace Bros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4nfm6pYrKc&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4nfm6pYrKc&mode=related&search=)



Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Croatch on February 22, 2007, 12:21:35 PM
Quote
Franks strength is also his weakness...arms. good from the front, not so good from the rear.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=128425.0;attach=143244;image)
I would have to agree.  Frank's arms really don't look that great from behind. ::)
Imagine having that physique and not placing...scary.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: SteelePegasus on February 22, 2007, 01:38:40 PM
I don't see how Frank's conditioning was off.  Maybe if "off" means "not absolutely as good as possible" then I suppose he was off.  His conditioning was still very good though.  I'm also not sure if his back is weak, or if it's just that his arms are so strong they dwarf his back like Levrone's delts dwarfed his chest.  I read that his calves are 18.5" and I think he could use another couple of inches there.  His hamstrings are his true weakness in my opinion - they could be both bigger and harder.

All in all, I really don't see how that is a last place physique.

the legs look terrible, zero hams, quads are small, no cut what so ever
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 22, 2007, 02:07:57 PM
Matt C <<<--- Behemoth monster epic inability to let go;)

No seriously, I agree with you.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Debussey on February 22, 2007, 02:28:43 PM
Frank = losing his hair.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 22, 2007, 03:05:12 PM
I don't see how Frank's conditioning was off.  Maybe if "off" means "not absolutely as good as possible" then I suppose he was off.  His conditioning was still very good though.  I'm also not sure if his back is weak, or if it's just that his arms are so strong they dwarf his back like Levrone's delts dwarfed his chest.  I read that his calves are 18.5" and I think he could use another couple of inches there.  His hamstrings are his true weakness in my opinion - they could be both bigger and harder.

All in all, I really don't see how that is a last place physique.

Frank's overall conditioning was off , clearly evident in the hams & glutes and his back isn't ' weak ' per sa he shows very good development and separation of the teres major , infraspinatus and traps his lats are small especially when viewed from the back , in that pose he's scrunching his back to show his muscularity and his lats disappear , he needs more back work because its not in proportion with his delts/biceps/triceps/forearms especially in the back double biceps pose , he does have a nice structure and a small waist and hips he could do more damage with more thickness in this back and more lat width
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 22, 2007, 03:22:39 PM
Bob Paris? There are guys at the Junior nats who beat Bob Paris nowadays...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 22, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Frank was better than Bob Paris overall and his arms are better than Dorian's.

Discuss.

Bob Paris was top 10 at the Olympia ( one time 7th ) doubtful Frank will be ( though possible ) and you're stating the obvious about his arms , both accomplished much more than Frank has in the sport
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 22, 2007, 03:31:53 PM
Not according to ND.

You see some of the guys at the nationals these past few years lol not exactly the cream of the crop , there was a time when the National level had a much richer and deeper field of competitor , when Rory Lidelmeyer couldn't get a pro card or Matt Mendenhall or Edgar Fletcher , how things have changed
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on February 22, 2007, 03:39:58 PM
I think McGrath's arms and shoulders are better than Dorian's.

Discuss.
you're right.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 22, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
Matt C, if you see Frank at the AC expo will you begin to blush, as you relive the many many nights you spend in front of your computer, a picture or video of Frank on your screen, as you beat your meat like a friggin Iraqi prisoner....;)
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 22, 2007, 03:47:26 PM
I think McGrath's arms and shoulders are better than Dorian's.

Discuss.

Arms yes , delts I don't think so
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Big Lee on February 22, 2007, 07:37:39 PM
But the real question is who is better out of Dorian and Ronnie?  MMMMM..........  I wonder.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 23, 2007, 06:32:01 AM
I think Frank has the superior arms, delts, and waist.  I won't say he has much else on Dorian, but give him that!

Again compared to the pic I posted I don't see how his delts are ' superior ' comparable sure , better NO
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: SteelePegasus on February 23, 2007, 06:35:59 AM
But the real question is who is better out of Dorian and Ronnie?  MMMMM..........  I wonder.

why don't you start a thread about it?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Bronx on February 23, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
The thing everyone is forgetting about Frank (or don't know) is that it's pretty damn hard for a kid from a small Canadian town to succeed in this industry on his own, especially training here with no real freak trainers to work with. He has a lot of potential if someone starts working with him...and let's not forget, he is just starting out folks. Cut him some slack.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 23, 2007, 12:11:55 PM
The thing everyone is forgetting about Frank (or don't know) is that it's pretty damn hard for a kid from a small Canadian town to succeed in this industry on his own, especially training here with no real freak trainers to work with. He has a lot of potential if someone starts working with him...and let's not forget, he is just starting out folks. Cut him some slack.

Arnold came from Thal Austria , Dorian from Birmingham England , not exactly bodybuilding Meccas , its not the location and yet they became the best .
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Necrosis on February 23, 2007, 02:09:47 PM
Exactly.  He is from St. John's, Newfoundland.  I was born there and lived there until I was seven and let me tell you - the province as whole isn't exactly living large (other than Frank, no pun intended).  He is literally the biggest man in a province of 500,000.  St. John's is the best place to live in the province, but even then it isn't exactly easy to pursue bodybuilding.

i live in st johns and am keeping the dream alive.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 23, 2007, 04:57:29 PM
Bronx's point was that it makes it a lot harder.  Do you agree?

And my point was others have done it , so can he .
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: slaveboy1980 on February 24, 2007, 10:01:23 AM
he needs to promote himself. he needs to get into g4p, he will do better if he does.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 24, 2007, 10:03:46 AM
he needs to promote himself. he needs to get into g4p, he will do better if he does.

You're not serious, are you?! Spare me the jokes about "colombosis" please...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Saxon on February 24, 2007, 01:30:45 PM
Exactly.  He is from St. John's, Newfoundland.  I was born there and lived there until I was seven and let me tell you - the province as whole isn't exactly living large (other than Frank, no pun intended).  He is literally the biggest man in a province of 500,000.  St. John's is the best place to live in the province, but even then it isn't exactly easy to pursue bodybuilding.

I went on a rugby tour to Newfoundland...got drunk lots...that was fun...best place we visited in Canada  :)
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Saxon on February 24, 2007, 01:38:34 PM
George Street.

Yes, there was some place selling bottles of beer for 50 cents...i liked that place  :)
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: body88 on February 24, 2007, 01:48:52 PM
Bronx's point was that it makes it a lot harder.  Do you agree?

Not really.

Cutler came from some hick town in western Massachusetts. Ronnie comes from Texas. Football (Both Texas and MA) and ice hockey (western MA) is what most teens do in these places, not bodybuild.

All a bb needs with extreme potential, is some juice ( which he obviously has) some weights, and some basic nutritional knowledge. Guys like Yates and Coleman swear by the "basics". It is not like there is something in the water out in Cali or Florida that makes you have better genetics. A argument could be made that he was better of in the middle of nowhere. less distractins compared to living in LA or Florida. The truth is, frank looks great. It is also true that he needs to improve on pretty much everything besides his arms.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Stavios on February 24, 2007, 02:03:20 PM
The thing everyone is forgetting about Frank (or don't know) is that it's pretty damn hard for a kid from a small Canadian town to succeed in this industry on his own, especially training here with no real freak trainers to work with. He has a lot of potential if someone starts working with him...and let's not forget, he is just starting out folks. Cut him some slack.

Milos offered him some help but I don<t know what happened next
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: body88 on February 24, 2007, 02:09:16 PM
body88 - I doubt it's easy to get lots of gear in Newfoundland.

Cook had no problem getting it in the middle of Alaska. I am not trying to say the Frank is not a great bb, because he is. I just think he needs to improve, and where he is from has little to do with his current look.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Frank Mcgrath on June 23, 2007, 01:50:51 PM
Heys just wanted to write and tell you guys whats been going on with me, i know i was off at the Ironman, i know my back and legs need to come up. I have had a bad knee for a nice few years now making it hard for me to train legs, and far as bak i have never had a back..lol. Not because i dont train it hard because i do, just doesnt seem to grow, i have been told that my arm are doin all the work when i do back, and i have not real had help form any one i  have train on my owe. Not many trainer where i'm from. But i have been train hard for the last 3 month and planning on competing in sept. So for all thse whoo support me thank you, good to know i have some fans out there, really means alot.Any why i will be back up there soon. Bigger and better.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Matt C on June 23, 2007, 01:58:13 PM
Frank - a fellow Newfie.  ;D

Question for you: why did you not complete the Ironman?  Was it due to illness?  By the looks of you in prejudging you would have done pretty well and had the smallest waist in the show.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: ThaRealist on June 23, 2007, 02:11:28 PM
Frank has the means(sponsorship) to move if he really feels it is his geographical location that is holding him back in his bodybuilding career...It is ludicrous to make the excuse it is more difficult for him to develop his physique because of location...Other great bodybuilders of the past have been successful no matter where they lived and so can Frank...Just another lame excuse about location.... ::)
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Frank Mcgrath on June 23, 2007, 02:30:30 PM
hey Mat, I was sick for a few days befor the show, and the day of i couldnt keep any thing down, so i was very flat, i was in the pump up room and i just couldnt get a pump, so that and noy being able to i decided not to contunie. as for as moving i dont know how much people think i make but beleive me its not much, i make enough to get by. So sorry to disapoint you. so moving would not be easy
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: YoungBlood on June 23, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
Get that man his Blue Stars!!! :P

Hey Frank, are you still (or did you ever get started) working with Milos?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: ThaRealist on June 23, 2007, 02:47:21 PM
Get your prostars and I will take you more seriously...Until then you could just as easily be a gimmic account...No offense if you really are Frank that is....
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Matt C on June 23, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
hey Mat, I was sick for a few days befor the show, and the day of i couldnt keep any thing down, so i was very flat, i was in the pump up room and i just couldnt get a pump, so that and noy being able to i decided not to contunie. as for as moving i dont know how much people think i make but beleive me its not much, i make enough to get by. So sorry to disapoint you. so moving would not be easy

I think you are very skilled at building muscle but not as much at promoting yourself.  There is no good reason why you couldn't be acquiring a lot more sponsorship than you currently have.  On my website forum, your thread has over 75,000 views!

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by not marketing yourself more.  Let me know if you are up for an interview or something because that would be at least something and my website does get thousands of visitors a day.  The money is really out there for you to make, Frank.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Mars on June 23, 2007, 02:59:11 PM
Monster arms.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 23, 2007, 03:00:24 PM
I have to agree with Matt. Frank McGrath can easily get a lot more attention, coverage, and publicity than he is currently getting. Remember, Frank, the VAST MAJORITY of young men who lift weights want to look like you, not like Branch or Jay. I go to a big state school, with several large rec facilities where many dozens of meat heads go to work out every day. They ALL want to look like "the Animal Pak guy."
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Mars on June 23, 2007, 03:06:56 PM
Yes Jay and Branch look like shit compared to Frank.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Matt C on June 23, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
I have to agree with Matt. Frank McGrath can easily get a lot more attention, coverage, and publicity than he is currently getting. Remember, Frank, the VAST MAJORITY of young men who lift weights want to look like you, not like Branch or Jay. I go to a big state school, with several large rec facilities where many dozens of meat heads go to work out every day. They ALL want to look like "the Animal Pak guy."

Exactly.  It is a combination of things which make young men aspire to look like Frank and it has a lot to do with height (not being short like most pros) and having a small waist.  Also, having muscle where it really matters like arms and shoulders.  To me, having a large waist completely ruins a physique.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: mwbbuilder on June 23, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
Exactly.  It is a combination of things which make young men aspire to look like Frank and it has a lot to do with height (not being short like most pros) and having a small waist.  Also, having muscle where it really matters like arms and shoulders.  To me, having a large waist completely ruins a physique.

How tall are you Matt?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Matt C on June 23, 2007, 03:26:44 PM
How tall are you Matt?

5'8.9 as of right this second but I might lose another 0.3 inches as the day continues.  ;D
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 23, 2007, 03:27:24 PM
Matt C, you are absolutely right. Of the many guys here who went to the ASC and with whom I spoke before or after the fact, the main reasons they were going were to see, in this order:
1. Arnold
2. Jay and/or Ronnie
3. The Animal Pak booth and Frank McGrath
4. martial arts or powerlifting...
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: garraeth on June 23, 2007, 04:04:02 PM
Heys just wanted to write and tell you guys whats been going on with me, i know i was off at the Ironman, i know my back and legs need to come up. I have had a bad knee for a nice few years now making it hard for me to train legs, and far as bak i have never had a back..lol. Not because i dont train it hard because i do, just doesnt seem to grow, i have been told that my arm are doin all the work when i do back, and i have not real had help form any one i  have train on my owe. Not many trainer where i'm from. But i have been train hard for the last 3 month and planning on competing in sept. So for all thse whoo support me thank you, good to know i have some fans out there, really means alot.Any why i will be back up there soon. Bigger and better.
I don't think anyone said this yet to you (you're a newbie, afterall): WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BITCH!  ;D

And, u gonna train w/ Milos, or was that just a rumor?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Frank Mcgrath on June 23, 2007, 04:28:31 PM
yes i was going to work with Milos, but he is extermily busy. he is training alot of people right now, and i could not afford to fly to LA to meet with him, so. We may work together in the near future. I hope :P
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on June 23, 2007, 04:30:08 PM
yes i was going to work with Milos, but he is extermily busy. he is training alot of people right now, and i could not afford to fly to LA to meet with him, so. We may work together in the near future. I hope :P
great to have you aboard Frank, one of the best physiques in the business for sure.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: garraeth on June 23, 2007, 04:32:45 PM
yes i was going to work with Milos, but he is extermily busy. he is training alot of people right now, and i could not afford to fly to LA to meet with him, so. We may work together in the near future. I hope :P
Promise you, it'll be worth it...whip your ass into shape in no time (lats, etc).
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: G Diesel on June 23, 2007, 06:18:30 PM
yes i was going to work with Milos, but he is extermily busy. he is training alot of people right now, and i could not afford to fly to LA to meet with him, so. We may work together in the near future. I hope :P

The dude is a self made man... Many of the best didn't rely on the advice of the gurus. Arnold, Dorian and Ronnie (except Chad helps Ronnie get stage ready, just as Aceto helps Jay). If his knees hold up long enough for him to get his wheels up to speed and the judging comes around to rewarding the middle ground between aesthetics/symmetry and the freaks, Frank will get his just dues. In my personal opinion, the future of the sport hinges on guys like Heath, Lockett, Frank and the like getting the judging nod. Peace, G
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: BDsauce on June 24, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
Bump for the Animal pak guy. ;D
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: MAXX on June 24, 2007, 01:30:22 PM
Arnold came from Thal Austria , Dorian from Birmingham England , not exactly bodybuilding Meccas , its not the location and yet they became the best .
Totally agree.

Why do these pros today need these guru trainers and guru nutritionists. Do they have any brain of their own?

That's the reason i respect Dorian so much more than Ronnie. Dorian didn't need any of these "gurus".
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: BIG ACH on June 24, 2007, 01:39:20 PM

I remember when I saw his picture for the first time doing a front double biceps, I was like HOLY SHIT!!! 

I'd love to look like him, His legs are not bad, they are just not in balance with his massive Arms.  But he looks awesome in my opinion.  Much better than many other pros, and imo he should not have placed last.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Matt C on June 24, 2007, 02:15:07 PM
I remember when I saw his picture for the first time doing a front double biceps, I was like HOLY SHIT!!! 

I'd love to look like him, His legs are not bad, they are just not in balance with his massive Arms.  But he looks awesome in my opinion.  Much better than many other pros, and imo he should not have placed last.

I agree.  I actually don't think Frank should have dropped out.  I think he must have succumbed to some sort of anxiety which made him feel he should drop out.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: BIG ACH on June 24, 2007, 02:38:54 PM

I usually try to avoid critiquing IFBB Pros....  Because at the end of the day, they are IFBB pros and I am not LOL.

Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: Stavios on June 24, 2007, 03:39:13 PM
Hey Frank, will you be present at the Montreal Pro this year ?
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 24, 2007, 06:32:03 PM
The dude is a self made man... Many of the best didn't rely on the advice of the gurus. Arnold, Dorian and Ronnie (except Chad helps Ronnie get stage ready, just as Aceto helps Jay). If his knees hold up long enough for him to get his wheels up to speed and the judging comes around to rewarding the middle ground between aesthetics/symmetry and the freaks, Frank will get his just dues. In my personal opinion, the future of the sport hinges on guys like Heath, Lockett, Frank and the like getting the judging nod. Peace, G

Well put.

(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/mcg12xw9.jpg)
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2007, 11:48:53 PM
bump for animal
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: bmacsys on June 25, 2007, 04:17:12 AM
Heys just wanted to write and tell you guys whats been going on with me, i know i was off at the Ironman, i know my back and legs need to come up. I have had a bad knee for a nice few years now making it hard for me to train legs, and far as bak i have never had a back..lol. Not because i dont train it hard because i do, just doesnt seem to grow, i have been told that my arm are doin all the work when i do back, and i have not real had help form any one i  have train on my owe. Not many trainer where i'm from. But i have been train hard for the last 3 month and planning on competing in sept. So for all thse whoo support me thank you, good to know i have some fans out there, really means alot.Any why i will be back up there soon. Bigger and better.

A pro who seems to be able to be critical of himself and not have an ego the size of the moon.  You have to find a way to relocate to California. Good luck.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: MikeThaMachine on June 25, 2007, 04:57:35 AM
Heys just wanted to write and tell you guys whats been going on with me, i know i was off at the Ironman, i know my back and legs need to come up. I have had a bad knee for a nice few years now making it hard for me to train legs, and far as bak i have never had a back..lol. Not because i dont train it hard because i do, just doesnt seem to grow, i have been told that my arm are doin all the work when i do back, and i have not real had help form any one i  have train on my owe. Not many trainer where i'm from. But i have been train hard for the last 3 month and planning on competing in sept. So for all thse whoo support me thank you, good to know i have some fans out there, really means alot.Any why i will be back up there soon. Bigger and better.



Nice to hear a pro act like he is just another guy who loves to lift rather then think they are the best thing since sliced bread. It would probably help alot if you had the means to move to a known BBing region, It's always nice to train around others who have had much more time and experience in the game. I would not worry so much as about just improving your overall look which is already good but just try to keep it dialed in for shows, a consistently good looking pro will always have a good fan base which in turn means guest posing $$$. I hope things go great and you have some good showings later this season.
Title: Re: Reason why frank mcgrath came last (pics)
Post by: HowieW on June 25, 2007, 05:06:59 AM
he has weak legs, no detail at all from the side in the legs, has a back weaker than strydom and dillet, just big ass gunzzzzz



He does not look that bad c'mon. He was off at the show these pics were taken at. He could dial in and better and solve the "sides" issue . His big problem however is is lack of a wide shoulder girdle.