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Blair Announces Iraq Withdrawal Plan...
Cheney Says Positive Sign...
Denmark to Withdraw...
Rice denies coalition crumbling...
Australia: 'We knew' Brits would leave...
Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb...
Troops Out, Harry In
Another US Chopper shot down this AM
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Blair Announces Iraq Withdrawal Plan...
Cheney Says Positive Sign...
Denmark to Withdraw...
Rice denies coalition crumbling...
Australia: 'We knew' Brits would leave...
Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb...
Troops Out, Harry In
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Its a shame some nations become pussies when the going gets tough. God bless you GWB.
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YES! God bless President Bush, our blessed leader! God bless our troops, and God bless America!
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YES! God bless President Bush, our blessed leader!
Are you serious? ???
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Damn straight I am!
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Damn straight I am!
Bold guesses:
You're not serving.
You've never seen blown up civilians.
You've never wiped a double amputee's ass.
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I have seen blown up civilians... you know the story about the first guess... you're right on the third guess..
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Blair Announces Iraq Withdrawal Plan...
Cheney Says Positive Sign...
Denmark to Withdraw...
Rice denies coalition crumbling...
Australia: 'We knew' Brits would leave...
Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb...
Troops Out, Harry In
Another US Chopper shot down this AM
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One of the princes (harry maybe?) is headed to fight in Iraq however
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One of the princes (harry maybe?) is headed to fight in Iraq however
No. Harry is going to Iraq to serve in non-combat support role.
Do you find it any coincidence that Harry announces he's going to Iraq, then 3 days later, England announces it's bringing home 20% of forces and converting the ohter 80% from combat to non-combat logistics roles?
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No. Harry is going to Iraq to serve in non-combat support role.
Do you find it any coincidence that Harry announces he's going to Iraq, then 3 days later, England announces it's bringing home 20% of forces and converting the ohter 80% from combat to non-combat logistics roles?
I give hom props for going, where are the bush twins or chelsea
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I give hom props for going, where are the bush twins or chelsea
Chelsea Clinton? What does she have to do with this? Her father's been out of office for nearly two full terms.
By the way, Harry's a trained officer and the Bush twins and Chelsea Clinton are mid-20's women that don't have an ounce of training, it's not exactly analogous.
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Chelsea Clinton? What does she have to do with this? Her father's been out of office for nearly two full terms.
By the way, Harry's a trained officer and the Bush twins and Chelsea Clinton are mid-20's women that don't have an ounce of training, it's not exactly analogous.
You fucking Douchbag, I was trying to point out that no american in a position relative to Harry would dream of serving in the military. You are such a fag
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You fucking Douchbag, I was trying to point out that no american in a position relative to Harry would dream of serving in the military. You are such a fag
Ouch, out come the names. Looks like you're getting sensitive.
By the way, there are no Americans in a position like his. His family has no real power anymore, they are there in essence to attract tourist dollars. You compared a military officer to three mid-twenties women one of whom's father hasn't even been President for nearly two full terms.
Don't get mad at me if your analogies don't work. If Tony Blair had a daughter and she went to Iraq then you'd have something.
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Do you think it's just a coincidence that after a 47 month war, Harry decides to enlist AFTER England removes all troops from combat?
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Do you think it's just a coincidence that after a 47 month war, Harry decides to enlist AFTER England removes all troops from combat?
He has been at england's version of West Point, and cardio you are a fag. I have yet to see you contribute anything of value to any conversation in any of these posts. Once again my point is no child of wealth would enlist in America.
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He has been at england's version of West Point, and cardio you are a fag. I have yet to see you contribute anything of value to any conversation in any of these posts. Once again my point is no child of wealth would enlist in America.
How ironic when your example used three mid-twenties women because that makes all the sense in the world. ::)
If by fag you mean that I don't agree with your nonsensical point of view then I agree.
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How ironic when your example used three mid-twenties women because that makes all the sense in the world. ::)
If by fag you mean that I don't agree with your nonsensical point of view then I agree.
it is clearly over your head, I'll stop trying to talk to the wall that is you
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it is clearly over your head, I'll stop trying to talk to the wall that is you
LOL, oh the irony.
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He has been at england's version of West Point
Yep.
But his family knew of longterm iraq war planning.
Why would he make this announcement 3 days before UK suddenly pulls men from danger?
There are no coincidences in politics, I think we all know this.
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Yep.
But his family knew of longterm iraq war planning.
Why would he make this announcement 3 days before UK suddenly pulls men from danger?
There are no coincidences in politics, I think we all know this.
I'm not sure why everyone is taking my comment the wrong way. I'm not calling him a hero by any stretch but I do think it is more a commentary on the US society that someone in our country with the wealth he has would do the same. Even if for only a few days
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LOL, oh the irony.
I try to be a good liberal and resist my stereotypes of soldiers as - well, not to put too fine a point on it - violent reactionary assholes.
Sometimes it's harder than others. ::)
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You fucking Douchbag, I was trying to point out that no american in a position relative to Harry would dream of serving in the military. You are such a fag
We do not have monarchs. The british have a tradition of sending their young princes to the military.
I have never heard of presidents sending their sons to serve in the army.
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We do not have monarchs. The british have a tradition of sending their young princes to the military.
I have never heard of presidents sending their sons to serve in the army.
me neither, maybe they should?
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The british have a tradition of sending their young princes to the military.
Well, they're traditional. They think that a national leader, even a figurehead one, ought to be able to at least pretend that they served their country.
We more forward-thinking Americans have dispensed with that idea.
(http://highvolumemedia.com/thebullhorn/images/People/US Politicians/BushGW-FlightSuit.jpg)
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Well, they're traditional. They think that a national leader, even a figurehead one, ought to be able to at least pretend that they served their country.
(http://highvolumemedia.com/thebullhorn/images/People/US Politicians/BushGW-FlightSuit.jpg)
lol ;D
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Well, they're traditional. They think that a national leader, even a figurehead one, ought to be able to at least pretend that they served their country.
We more forward-thinking Americans have dispensed with that idea.
(http://highvolumemedia.com/thebullhorn/images/People/US Politicians/BushGW-FlightSuit.jpg)
Would you have posted the same sort of picture if Kerry were president? or are you proud of his service?
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If Kerry was President, we would have left Iraq by now.
You know, like the four other countries who said they'll be cleared out by the end of 2007.
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Would you have posted the same sort of picture if Kerry were president? or are you proud of his service?
Never though much about the details, quite frankly.
But I'd say he would have about 10,000 times more moral authority if sending American troops into combat than Chimpy McFlightsuit there.
Do you actually disagree?
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Never though much about the details, quite frankly.
But I'd say he would have about 10,000 times more moral authority if sending American troops into combat than Chimpy McFlightsuit there.
Do you actually disagree?
Not big on Kerry's actions following his service in Vietnam.
As far as Bush? noone to blame but the people that voted him into power as my boss
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As far as Bush? noone to blame but the people that voted him into power as my boss
Wait.
Politicians aren't to blame for their actions - only those who elected them?
So if I hire a guy to clean my pool and he robs the house - do I blame myself for hiring him?
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Not big on Kerry's actions following his service in Vietnam.
Your earlier question was if I was proud "of his service" - not what he's done since.
Principled opposition to war takes guts.
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Wait.
Politicians aren't to blame for their actions - only those who elected them?
So if I hire a guy to clean my pool and he robs the house - do I blame myself for hiring him?
Not what I said, we just have to live with his decisions because we put him there like it or not. Hind sight is a beautiful thing. But maybe you should have checked the pool guy's background more!!!
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Not what I said, we just have to live with his decisions because we put him there like it or not. Hind sight is a beautiful thing. But maybe you should have checked the pool guy's background more!!!
But if I had a 4-year contract, and the punk stole from me, I would fire him.
THe Pentagon just made it very clear from their audit that Bush cherrypicked intel.
New documents show we are stealing oil at non-market rates, as everyone suspected.
3100 men dead and we're surging as everyone else pulls out.
No WMD ever found.
No Osama evidence ever delivered as they promised.
I do not blame voters for these things.
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can I get in on this thread (I've nothing better to do at the minute 'xcept do this and listen to heavy metal.
May I respond to like 10 of your silly posts or are you just plain daft?
friendly fire, from Linda in London England xxx
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But if I had a 4-year contract, and the punk stole from me, I would fire him.
THe Pentagon just made it very clear from their audit that Bush cherrypicked intel.
New documents show we are stealing oil at non-market rates, as everyone suspected.
3100 men dead and we're surging as everyone else pulls out.
No WMD ever found.
No Osama evidence ever delivered as they promised.
I do not blame voters for these things.
I'd fire him also, not so easy here though in this situation. If the dems feel so "strongly" about it why don't they try? Becasue they don't feel that strong. Just like GOPers told us a bunch of lines to get elected and then did bupkus, the Dems are going to do the same thing. Sure they will pass NON BINDING resolutions but will they do anything with substance? How many voted to pull troops last year? like 4? yet go to a press conference and see what they say.
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Never though much about the details, quite frankly.
But I'd say he would have about 10,000 times more moral authority if sending American troops into combat than Chimpy McFlightsuit there.
Do you actually disagree?
I love how Kerry is brought into this. Kerry actually fought didn't he? I mean he was actually in Vietnam and saw action right? Doesn't he deserve at least a little respect for that?
Disagree with his actions as a politician since Vietnam all you want but how is the fact that he actually saw action a negative?
What's next criticizing McCain's record in Vietnam? Oh, that's right, he's not a Liberal. Nevermind.
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I love how Kerry is brought into this. Kerry actually fought didn't he?
It's exactly because it showed up W's cowardice so brutally that the neofascists had to smear Kerry's service by whatever lies necessary. Hence, the introduction of "Swiftboating" into our political vocabulary.
Thanks a lot you fucking right-wing assholes.
I know... "meltdown". :)
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Blair Announces Iraq Withdrawal Plan...
Blair didn't announce anything, it was a newsleak, a piece of propaganda. Ever since those Princes grew up, they've done army or navy or something. That's what our royal family boys always do. William is the heir, so he can't really go anyplace without paparazzi and bodyguards.
Henry is the one who has been training and made head of some regiment. They don't have much of an army in this country anymore, they're all over the place, even still in Ireland.
So, Harry turns 21 or 18 or something and for months if not years, they've been talking about him.
It's a publicity stunt, or something in the stars. Look, I posted elsewhere, Blair is doing his lap of honour. He's fallen out with Bush and now he's getting along with the Windsors.
Send in another regiment. Pull them out, send them in. God. Oil. Friendly fire.
We so love our leaders
Stiff upper lip etc
xL
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As far as B? noone to blame but the people that voted him into power as my boss
I'm ashamed to say that I voted for Tony Blair
can't wait to see who we get to vote for next, they're not talking about any election anymore, only about war.
Can I go back and re-read your crap about the British Royal Family and how you perceive 2,000 years of culture? It might make me laugh. After all, you only found your country in 1776 and someone helped you. xL
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I love how Kerry is brought into this. Kerry actually fought didn't he? I mean he was actually in Vietnam and saw action right? Doesn't he deserve at least a little respect for that?
Disagree with his actions as a politician since Vietnam all you want but how is the fact that he actually saw action a negative?
What's next criticizing McCain's record in Vietnam? Oh, that's right, he's not a Liberal. Nevermind.
Nothing like that fool. Bush served, just because he wasn't in the AOR doesn't make it any less honorable. Like I said the other day only 49% of the Air Force has served time in the AOR during OEF/OIF. So are we going to call the other 51% cowards? Just because I was boots on the ground in Iraq am I better than the guy that didn't? RIBO was implying that Bush's service was cowardly. How was paper cut Kerry any better? Just because he was there?
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Bush served, just because he wasn't in the AOR doesn't make it any less honorable. Like I said the other day only 49% of the Air Force has served time in the AOR during OEF/OIF. So are we going to call the other 51% cowards? Just because I was boots on the ground in Iraq am I better than the guy that didn't? RIBO was implying that Bush's service was cowardly. How was paper cut Kerry any better? Just because he was there?
If Bush went AWOL while Kerry was earning his purple hearts, would Bush's service mean less to you?
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Nothing like that fool. Bush served, just because he wasn't in the AOR doesn't make it any less honorable. Like I said the other day only 49% of the Air Force has served time in the AOR during OEF/OIF. So are we going to call the other 51% cowards? Just because I was boots on the ground in Iraq am I better than the guy that didn't? RIBO was implying that Bush's service was cowardly. How was paper cut Kerry any better? Just because he was there?
Bush using family connections to get stationed domestically and then going AWOL doesn't seem less honorable to you? ::)
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Bush served, just because he wasn't in the AOR doesn't make it any less honorable. Like I said any better? Just because he was there?
If my memory serves me right, your George Bush was the son of a previous President?
I know for a fact he wasn't in either of the big world wars, nor in Korea, Vietnam or Afganistan. I thought he grew up on a ranch someplace. That pic above where he's doing TopGun is hilarious.
I'm really having a giggle now, you've brought it home to me that he's your equivalent of a royal family.
fff
xL
etc
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Bush using family connections to get stationed domestically and then going AWOL doesn't seem less honorable to you? ::)
mm69 either has to admit his President's service is less honorable than Kerry's, or he has to admit he doesnt' see desertion as dishonorable.
My guess is, his ego cant handle either and he'll challenge the commonly known fact that Bush dissappeared from service.
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Nothing like that fool. Bush served, just because he wasn't in the AOR doesn't make it any less honorable. Like I said the other day only 49% of the Air Force has served time in the AOR during OEF/OIF. So are we going to call the other 51% cowards? Just because I was boots on the ground in Iraq am I better than the guy that didn't? RIBO was implying that Bush's service was cowardly. How was paper cut Kerry any better? Just because he was there?
Ouch, that fool quip is killing me. I'll need a few minutes to recover. ::)
I never called Bush a coward, so what that has to do with me I'm not sure. You asked if ribo was "proud of his service". Kerry fought in Vietnam, why wouldn't he be proud of his service? He was actually over there fighting. The man saw action and you denigrate him by calling him "paper cut Kerry". LOL
Are you proud of Kerry's service in Vietnam? Is he somehow less worthy than any other soldier that fought in Vietnam simply because you don't like his politics?
To me his politics don't matter when talking about this issue, I don't like his politics and he's been my Senator for most of my adult life yet I don't look down on his service in Vietnam.
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Australia: 'We knew' Brits would leave...
wow, you read the Australian news, or does Australian news make the headlines in the US?
I hadn't seen this.
Obviously Australians have huge issues about the wars they've had to go to. They lost gazillions in the last world war 55 years ago. Did they go to Iraq, i don't know. I do know that Canada didn't...
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Did they go to Iraq, i don't know. I do know that Canada didn't...
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/2/-/bush_debate_poland.jpg)
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who in the hell is Kerry, I haven't been watching any American politics, is he about to take Bush out, do you have an election coming up?
I thought it was going to be Hillary Clinton or that young "black" man, last time I looked.
Hope Kerry's service record serves him well in the White House if he gets there.
xL
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wow, you read the Australian news, or does Australian news make the headlines in the US?
I hadn't seen this.
Obviously Australians have huge issues about the wars they've had to go to. They lost gazillions in the last world war 55 years ago. Did they go to Iraq, i don't know. I do know that Canada didn't...
http://drudgereport.com/ gives a nice morning mix of world news.
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Rice denies coalition crumbling...
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love condalisa. what's she up to?
What coalition she talking 'bout?
Send her over
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kerry ran against bush in 2004.
he won. but then the republican owned diebold election machines fudged the election results.
repubs sued to keep the voted form being recounted. :)
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http://drudgereport.com/ gives a nice morning mix of world news.
so does the BBC and the internet
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with love
Linda
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kerry ran against bush in 2004.
he won. but then the republican owned diebold election machines fudged the election results.
repubs sued to keep the voted form being recounted. :)
right, i forgot about that, it all happens so fast.
That was the Florida re-count thing and it ended up that Bush got in illegally or something.
I'm sure there was some reason I blocked that one out of my memory...
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so that means Kerry is coming back? I love K names, they're special, I dislike B's
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kerry can't run cause he said something along the lines of "if you dont do good in school, you end up more likely to enroll in the military"
which while statistically may be true, people don't wanna hear it.
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Wait.
Politicians aren't to blame for their actions - only those who elected them?
So if I hire a guy to clean my pool and he robs the house - do I blame myself for hiring him?
that's the thing about Iraq story, here in England. It's all bigger than us. It's not just the guy you hire or the man you voted for.
gotta watch the news, I think we might be retreating.
xL
I'm waiting for the second coming (I think God should show up around now) with mad love, xL
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kerry can't run cause he said something along the lines of "if you dont do good in school, you end up more likely to enroll in the military"
which while statistically may be true, people don't wanna hear it.
Had he said what you quoted, he wouldn't have caught so much flack, but he said "If you don't do well in school, you get stuck in Iraq."
There a difference between the two. The former is a statement about a statistic. The latter is a sweeping generalization about people in the military.
There's a reason he lost an election that he should've won easily.
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mm69 either has to admit his President's service is less honorable than Kerry's, or he has to admit he doesnt' see desertion as dishonorable.
My guess is, his ego cant handle either and he'll challenge the commonly known fact that Bush dissappeared from service.
It was never proved that Bush was AWOL. I like debating but when you guys don't read an entire post it gets old. I said to Ribo, I admire Kerry's service not his action after his return. Guess cardio missed that. The fact that Bush was state side during the war shouldn't be held against him. There is never a time when 100% of the military enters the AOR during a war.
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It was never proved that Bush was AWOL. I like debating but when you guys don't read an entire post it gets old. I said to Ribo, I admire Kerry's service not his action after his return. Guess cardio missed that. The fact that Bush was state side during the war shouldn't be held against him. There is never a time when 100% of the military enters the AOR during a war.
IF it was proven that Bush went awol -
would you admit Bush's service was less honorable than kerry's?
I believe it was proven to the point where the White house just said "we can't find anythign" and left it at that. I'm sure Ribo can fill us in on the actual ending. BTW military - do you really believe bush wasn't awol? LOL... some people here will back the most unrealistic points because "it's their guy!"
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IF it was proven that Bush went awol -
would you admit Bush's service was less honorable than kerry's?
I believe it was proven to the point where the White house just said "we can't find anythign" and left it at that. I'm sure Ribo can fill us in on the actual ending. BTW military - do you really believe bush wasn't awol? LOL... some people here will back the most unrealistic points because "it's their guy!"
I don't know if he was AWOL or not, never paid attention. Isn't that what the Dan Rather forged documents tried to say and were proven false? Not sure. As far as Bush compared to Kerry, I would give both less than passing grade but yes kerry slightly higher
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The fact that Bush was state side during the war shouldn't be held against him.
Not even if his family pulled strings to get him that slot? The deprivation of which might have caused some other guy to get assigned to the field and KIA?
As to whether it was proved he went AWOL: are we using the same standard of "proof" that the right applied to the Whitewater accusations? Or the theory that Vince Foster was murdered? :)
FWIW, here's the Boston Globe - "left-wing rag", no doubt - saying that the records released by the White House to demonstrate that W met his military obligations do nothing of the kind.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/08/bush_fell_short_on_duty_at_guard/
Money quote...
[Retired Army Colonel Gerald A.] Lechliter said the records push him to conclude that Bush had little interest in fulfilling his obligation, and his superiors preferred to look the other way. Others agree. ''It appears that no one wanted to hold him accountable," said retired Major General Paul A. Weaver Jr., who retired in 2002 as the Pentagon's director of the Air National Guard.
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kerry ran against bush in 2004.
he won. but then the republican owned diebold election machines fudged the election results.
repubs sued to keep the voted form being recounted. :)
Oh god.
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I'll kill your thread, if I may?
Iran has given their final answer. On the BBC news, during the last 30 minutes, it has been announced that they will meet in London. Talks on Monday.
ok? Is it Friday yet? can we discuss tomorrows news?
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US, UK, France, Russia, China they're saying 6 countries. Can't keep up
oh fuck, at first i thought that that was a great thing and that they should all get together and chat. UN and all.
But then I realised I'd better not go anywhere next week in case they decide to bomb London again...
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Iran has given their final answer. On the BBC news, during the last 30 minutes, it has been announced that they will meet in London. Talks on Monday.
???
From a look at the BBC News web page a minute ago...
Iran has rejected UN calls to stop uranium enrichment as "unacceptable", after a report said it had missed a deadline to suspend its activities.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6388143.stm
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Prince Harry wants to go with the Reds & Blues into Iraq. fine.
and Chris Eubank, former boxer, just got arrested for driving a van down Whitehall displaying anti-war slogans.
xL
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???
From a look at the BBC News web page a minute ago...
Iran has rejected UN calls to stop uranium enrichment as "unacceptable", after a report said it had missed a deadline to suspend its activities.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6388143.stm
do you get the BBC headlines at the same time as I do? I doubt it. I think they called a final ultimatum and...
haven't got time to see what they're saying in america or ali-news.
good night
xL
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iran is going to get invaded, there shouldn't be any doubt.
Pointless to debate it. It's gonna happen. This is playing out precisely as Iraq did.
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It was never proved that Bush was AWOL. I like debating but when you guys don't read an entire post it gets old. I said to Ribo, I admire Kerry's service not his action after his return. Guess cardio missed that. The fact that Bush was state side during the war shouldn't be held against him. There is never a time when 100% of the military enters the AOR during a war.
Was that post in this thread? I can't seem to find one of your posts to Ribo that says you admire Kerry's service. I can however find the one where you call Kerry "paper cut Kerry" and say that Kerry's service record is essentially no better than our current President's.
This is the closest thing I can find but it doesn't say anything close to you admiring Kerry's service.
Not big on Kerry's actions following his service in Vietnam.
As far as Bush? noone to blame but the people that voted him into power as my boss
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iran is going to get invaded, there shouldn't be any doubt.
Pointless to debate it. It's gonna happen. This is playing out precisely as Iraq did.
I need to know, don't wanna debate it...
By whom?
xL
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iran is going to get invaded, there shouldn't be any doubt.
Pointless to debate it. It's gonna happen. This is playing out precisely as Iraq did.
This won't, I'm sorry, "play out" as Iraq did.
the UK pulled out yesterday, remember?
They're sending in the young Prince and his regiment (so they say, to Iraq.
It's a formality.
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By a coalition.
It will be the US sending 20,000 men, plus 50 to 100 men from ten scrub nations.
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By a coalition.
It will be the US sending 20,000 men, plus 50 to 100 men from ten scrub nations.
go for it, those Persians are mental and have been since before history.
have fun
love you, mean it
xL
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By a coalition.
It will be the US sending 20,000 men, plus 50 to 100 men from ten scrub nations.
240 I honestly don't think we will invade Iran. Not that we don't want to. But I don't see it. If it were to happen the Dem congress would have to approve right? Do you think they would? I see Israel acting before we do.... thoughts?
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I dislike B's
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo! :o
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240 I honestly don't think we will invade Iran. Not that we don't want to. But I don't see it. If it were to happen the Dem congress would have to approve right? Do you think they would? I see Israel acting before we do.... thoughts?
Are you saying Bush needs congressional approval bafore invading Iran?
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Are you saying Bush needs congressional approval bafore invading Iran?
I know where you are trying to lead me, bush did have approval for Iraq. I don't look at it so much as you put it but rather I see it that in his final days he won't want a new target on the GOP back for the Dems to shoot at. So unless the Dems decide we need to go, I don't think we will. And the Dems won't, even if it is the right thing to do because all they care about is staying in power, not making the tough decision. Dems won't do dick unless the polls say they should
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No, I was trying to see if you believe the Office of the President NEEDS Congress' approval to invade Iran.
Cause they don't.
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No, I was trying to see if you believe the Office of the President NEEDS Congress' approval to invade Iran.
Cause they don't.
I feel that this debate - however meaningful it might be under other circumstances - is at this time a dangerous distraction.
Bush was installed in power by his family's political cronies in a clear violation of established election law.
He has admitted, nay, boasted of unwarranted wiretapping activity that a federal judge has ruled to be a violation of the law. You know... a criminal act.
In both word and deed, he has publicly proclaimed that he recognizes no limitation on his power by either the legislative or judicial branches.
Just as the media is afraid to call the situation in Iraq "civil war", we are all afraid to call our situation what it obviously is: A coup d'etat.
Does Bush need Congressional authorization to invade Iraq?
Did Stalin need Politburo authorization to liquidate the officer corps??
The question now is not what can Bush do. The question now is what can we do.
At this point, it may be that nothing short of a military overthrow will succeed in dislodging the tyrant from power - and that might be going from the frying pan into the fire.
But there is nothing stopping us from sending a million people into the streets of Washington to demand our democracy back. Or from staging a general strike to bring the country to a halt. Nothing but our own passivity.
And when we find ourselves in Camp Halliburton, the judgment on us will have been written by Solzhenitsyn - who sneered at those "who didn't love freedom enough".