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Title: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 02:08:56 PM
The Chinese market is on the verge of imploding on itself and the US markets saw a major hit as a result today. Biggest loss since the week after 9/11.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/ChinasMeltdownNoSurprise.aspx?GT1=9114

Thank you China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 27, 2007, 02:17:44 PM
The Dow Jones ran down 400 points as well. Isn't it scary that our economy is dependent on China? I mean we're a hungry nation and we need them to keep manufacturing goods for cheap and they need us to keep on buying.

Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 02:51:57 PM
The Dow Jones ran down 400 points as well. Isn't it scary that our economy is dependent on China? I mean we're a hungry nation and we need them to keep manufacturing goods for cheap and they need us to keep on buying.



It's scary that China exhibits next to no control over their market and lets it run wild without doing anything about it. People have been predicting this for a long time now. And who's the superpower?  ::)
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: ribonucleic on February 27, 2007, 02:57:10 PM
And who's the superpower?  ::)

Put it this way....

The Chinese aren't selling hundreds of billions in debt instruments to us to finance their foreign trade deficit.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 03:02:05 PM
Put it this way....

The Chinese aren't selling hundreds of billions in debt instruments to us to finance their foreign trade deficit.

No, they're busy letting millions of illegal security trades go through to boost their economy to the point of imploding on itself.  ::)
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: ribonucleic on February 27, 2007, 03:07:45 PM
If China ever has to put Taiwan in a headlock, it will be amusing to reflect that the military they use to do it with will have been paid for by all the cheap crap we bought at Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 03:10:45 PM
If China ever has to put Taiwan in a headlock, it will be amusing to reflect that the military they use to do it with will have been paid for by all the cheap crap we bought at Wal-Mart.

I look forward to when their military is used on the populace to quell the inevitable democratic uprising!
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: ribonucleic on February 27, 2007, 03:16:36 PM
I look forward to when their military is used on the populace to quell the inevitable democratic uprising!

I fear they may be too busy coughing their lungs out to stage the rebellion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3683574.stm
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 27, 2007, 03:21:19 PM
If I told you China owned a lot of US land, would you believe me?
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 03:22:04 PM
I fear they may be too busy coughing their lungs out to stage the rebellion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3683574.stm

I wonder when they're going to start the human genocide there to control their population. Not that I'd be complaining if they or India decided to do something like that.

If I told you China owned a lot of US land, would you believe me?

I wouldn't be surprised. Let me guess, they played a hand in 9/11 too!?!?!?!??!
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 27, 2007, 03:25:17 PM
I wouldn't be surprised. Let me guess, they played a hand in 9/11 too!?!?!?!??!

let me guess, you're making shit up?  china had nothing to do with 911 as far as i know.

but thanks for that redirect.  yes, china owns a lot of US land and a lot of land on loan collateral for debt we've incurred to them.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 03:28:49 PM
let me guess, you're making shit up?  china had nothing to do with 911 as far as i know.

but thanks for that redirect.  yes, china owns a lot of US land and a lot of land on loan collateral for debt we've incurred to them.

I'm just breaking your balls. I believe it. I'd suggest that we owned Chinese land but there's really not much worth owning out there.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: ribonucleic on February 27, 2007, 03:29:22 PM
china owns a lot of US land and a lot of land on loan collateral for debt we've incurred to them.

Could we pay off some debt to them by giving them Alabama and Mississippi?

You could put a lot of Chinese in there...  ;)
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Fury on February 27, 2007, 03:33:07 PM
Could we pay off some debt to them by giving them Alabama and Mississippi?

You could put a lot of Chinese in there...  ;)

Sounds like a good plan to me.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 27, 2007, 06:29:16 PM
It's scary that China exhibits next to no control over their market and lets it run wild without doing anything about it. People have been predicting this for a long time now. And who's the superpower?  ::)

People think they will be the next superpower because of their current rate of growth. But honestly right now they're not even close to America and neither is any other country.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: ribonucleic on February 27, 2007, 06:48:20 PM
People think they will be the next superpower because of their current rate of growth. But honestly right now they're not even close to America and neither is any other country.

Darn right.

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 28 Feb 2007 at 02:47:18 AM GMT is:

$ 8 , 7 7 5 , 1 7 4 , 7 2 7 , 7 0 7 . 6 5

U... S... A!  U... S... A!

That's 64.7% of GDP, by the way. Just ahead of such economic powerhouses as Cote D'Ivoire and Uganda. [China: 24.4%]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: 24KT on February 27, 2007, 07:51:40 PM
I fear they may be too busy coughing their lungs out to stage the rebellion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3683574.stm

China and Taiwan are two of our fastest growing markets at FFi (http://jme.mpgproduct.com/default.aspx?cid=50962) <--click me

I'm lovin' it. I can barely pronounce some of the names in my downline, ...but that's cool.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: theonlyone on February 27, 2007, 10:51:28 PM
Russia has all the natural resourses ( the more than everyone else about there ) that is why it

most likely will be the superpower in future + smart people)))). Add to it that Russia hasn't ever

lost any war on its territory.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: BRUCE on February 28, 2007, 01:53:57 AM
Russia has all the natural resourses ( the more than everyone else about there ) that is why it

most likely will be the superpower in future + smart people)))). Add to it that Russia hasn't ever

lost any war on its territory.

You're correct to note Russia's enormous embarrassment of resource wealth.  Unfortunately, Russia is a country in demographic decline - it has one of the highest AIDS rates in the world at the moment.  It's more likely China will move to 'acquire' some of this wealth in the future, as its own sources dry up.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: theonlyone on February 28, 2007, 04:54:54 AM
You're correct to note Russia's enormous embarrassment of resource wealth.  Unfortunately, Russia is a country in demographic decline - it has one of the highest AIDS rates in the world at the moment.  It's more likely China will move to 'acquire' some of this wealth in the future, as its own sources dry up.
Hi there. As their sources dry up? Lol they had already dried up. China is 30 + years behind Russia in high tecknology development enough would be said that all/may be not all 100% of the nuclear power stations in China built by russians. I assume you do guess what I mean. IF the russian people in the russian streets will be seeing lots of narrow eyed faces it will be the war. It cannot be possible that somewhere on a russian soil there would exist a town with say 80% of narrow eyed faces. Slavic faces in the streets rule is what will deter the Chinese envasion. Unless the government will give the green light and all narrow eyed will be trown away in 3 days,3 days man. Not much awhile ago government gave a green light to clear several social spheres of georgians, georgian mafia, ( not a Georgia state man ) the majority of the so called thieves in law are georgians, the criminal elite who control casinos, banks etc. All have been cleared up in 3 days. Can when want as we say. Russian let the georgians invest their capitals in Russia and then throw them away. Tactics. Russia let their old people sooner dia in poverty so it boosted demographic decline but instead gotten international debt free. You have to sacrifice soemthing to only then get more powerful.
Did you hear how Putin lighted up in Germany. He showed the west , the a the an USA its place. The tendecy? The USA will lose its world dominance in a world very soon, the emerging superpowers China, India, Russia. We can freeze the whole Europe, the EU as you say. The EU should fear at all to bark at Russia.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: bmacsys on February 28, 2007, 04:57:44 AM
If I told you China owned a lot of US land, would you believe me?

And the USA owns a lot of land in other counries too.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: bmacsys on February 28, 2007, 05:02:35 AM
Hi there. As their sources dry up? Lol they had already dried up. China is 30 + years behind Russia in high tecknology development enough would be said that all/may be not all 100% of the nuclear power stations in China built by russians. I assume you do guess what I mean. IF the russian people in the russian streets will be seeing lots of narrow eyed faces it will be the war. It cannot be possible that somewhere on a russian soil there would exist a town with say 80% of narrow eyed faces. Slavic faces in the streets rule is what will deter the Chinese envasion. Unless the government will give the green light and all narrow eyed will be trown away in 3 days,3 days man. Not much awhile ago government gave a green light to clear several social spheres of georgians, georgian mafia, ( not a Georgia state man ) the majority of the so called thieves in law are georgians, the criminal elite who control casinos, banks etc. All have been cleared up in 3 days. Can when want as we say. Russian let the georgians invest their capitals in Russia and then throw them away. Tactics. Russia let their old people sooner dia in poverty so it boosted demographic decline but instead gotten international debt free. You have to sacrifice soemthing to only then get more powerful.
Did you hear how Putin lighted up in Germany. He showed the west , the a the an USA its place. The tendecy? The USA will lose its world dominance in a world very soon, the emerging superpowers China, India, Russia. We can freeze the whole Europe, the EU as you say. The EU should fear at all to bark at Russia.

The Russians dominating the world? Their missiles are non functional is silos. Their navy is in mothballs rusting. Their Migs have no spare parts. They have no money to pay there soldiers in the regular army. Thats the formula for world domination no doubt?
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 28, 2007, 05:11:44 AM
The Russians dominating the world? Their missiles are non functional is silos. Their navy is in mothballs rusting. Their Migs have no spare parts. They have no money to pay there soldiers in the regular army. Thats the formula for world domination no doubt?

Actually Russia is now DEBT FREE.  And rebuilding. 
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: theonlyone on February 28, 2007, 05:47:29 AM
The Russians dominating the world? Their missiles are non functional is silos. Their navy is in mothballs rusting. Their Migs have no spare parts. They have no money to pay there soldiers in the regular army. Thats the formula for world domination no doubt?
I don't know whether this joke can be translated into the west mentality but there is a saying Why does the russian soldier lways win? - Because he hasn't anything to lose
In every joke is a bit a true sense as we say
Behind our backs is Russia, that would be enough over tops to fight for the whatever end
> Every country buys russian migs, no one american how they called?
If you think the american army would "ram" the russian army it will neber be. Russians fought whole its history, let it a try if you think it should be done.))
(http://img.rian.ru/images/5953/81/59538126.jpg)
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: bmacsys on February 28, 2007, 02:23:12 PM
Actually Russia is now DEBT FREE.  And rebuilding. 

Yeah, debt free and broke. Their only exports are oil and vodka.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 02:26:52 PM
Yeah, debt free and broke. Their only exports are oil and vodka.

Which we would buy an assload of.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: bmacsys on February 28, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
Which we would buy an assload of.

Tu, this country has been in debt on paper since WWII.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
Tu, this country has been in debt on paper since WWII.

Of this I have no doubt.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: 24KT on February 28, 2007, 04:32:10 PM
Yeah, debt free and broke. Their only exports are oil and vodka.

...some speculate nukes too.  :P
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 07:07:05 PM
...some speculate nukes too.  :P

But do they know where they are?
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: 24KT on February 28, 2007, 07:23:47 PM
But do they know where they are?

Of course they do. ...they're somewhere around Moscow... to the north ...the south... the east ...and west.  :P
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 07:37:40 PM
Of course they do. ...they're somewhere around Moscow... to the north ...the south... the east ...and west.  :P

That could be Idaho... :P
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 28, 2007, 08:05:09 PM
I've had about 6 vodka shots.. Let me tell you that vodka is clean stuff! Get's you buzzed without the hangovers! I think I'll have 4 more to make it an even 10 and then go to bed!
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: BRUCE on February 28, 2007, 08:06:17 PM
I've had about 6 vodka shots.. Let me tell you that vodka is clean stuff! Get's you buzzed without the hangovers! I think I'll have 4 more to make it an even 10 and then go to bed!

Oh, you're getting drunk - can I expect more logic again?
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 28, 2007, 08:11:18 PM
Oh, you're getting drunk - can I expect more logic again?

Nah, I'm pretty spent, but if I do post it wont be anything anylytical.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: theonlyone on February 28, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
Yeah, debt free and broke. Their only exports are oil and vodka.
How bout that whole Europe buys Russian gas?
America runs out of oil so it moved to middle east. The USA doing a politics of international jandarme or whatever it's spelled. Did the people of Iraq, Iran ask for whatever the a USA? Your ignorance, stupidity and lack of any tactics will bite you in the ass very soon.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 10:13:23 PM
How bout that whole Europe buys Russian gas?
America runs out of oil so it moved to middle east. The USA doing a politics of international jandarme or whatever it's spelled. Did the people of Iraq, Iran ask for whatever the a USA? Your ignorance, stupidity and lack of any tactics will bite you in the ass very soon.

America is not even close to out of oil actually... There are capped Oil Wells in Texas that are just waiting... Lots of oil there... We also have capped wells in Tennessee and Pennsylvania, plus, there's geological surveys which scientists believe put oil in places like Montana, Oklahoma, and other states as well...

Alaska is sitting on an Ocean of the stuff... The US has tons of oil, but the HMFICs want to drain the middle east first.
Title: Re: China is the future superpower!!! Can't even control their own stock market!
Post by: bmacsys on March 01, 2007, 03:20:29 PM
America is not even close to out of oil actually... There are capped Oil Wells in Texas that are just waiting... Lots of oil there... We also have capped wells in Tennessee and Pennsylvania, plus, there's geological surveys which scientists believe put oil in places like Montana, Oklahoma, and other states as well...

Alaska is sitting on an Ocean of the stuff... The US has tons of oil, but the HMFICs want to drain the middle east first.

That is 100 % true. We use as little of our own oil as possible. Why exploit our reserves when its cheaper to import what we need for now.