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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Birdman on February 28, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
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Getbig Bros...This fuckin sucks.
I did an inject into the right glute last Friday of only 2 cc's of Test E. Painless inject and had no pain until Sunday evening. By Sunday evening my temperature spiked to 102 degrees and the abcess started to become visible. By monday morning I could barely get my ass out of bed because...well it hurt like SHIT! So by Tuesday the infected area has a radius of over 6 inches. Im talking over half of my ass cheek is dark red and hot to touch. So I went to the hospital yesterday because I knew that I needed to get on some antibiotics and the shit was getting worse every hour.
I bounce at a night club and I had a relatively rough night last night because I was so sore and stiff. I noticed that when I got home (about 4 am) that the redness had/has streaked all the way around my hip and is not only about 3/4 of an inch from the Birdman's eggs (nuts). The doctor said to watch it and make sure it doesnt get to close...Well I think thats pretty fucking close so Im getting a little paranoid.
What do you guys think?
Im a little freaked so any positivie info would help.
The doctor said that if its not going down by Friday then he wants me to go in for immediate surgery.
Bird
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Damn bro that sux. I hope all goes well.
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That really sucks. If I were you I'd go right back to the doctor.
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That really sucks. If I were you I'd go right back to the doctor.
And really fast...
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If you have a problem over the weekend its WORSE to get med care-think about that, its Wed now ???
You could make an appt. now and cancel it if U get better ;)
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Get your "ass" to the doctor ASAP.
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You need to go to the doc.
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This needs surgical drainage.
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Bro.... I would love to give you some positive feed back, but there is absolutely nothing that I can "tell" you that is going to make you feel better, other than..... I kinda went thru the same thing a while back. I was in intense pain ( I walked around with it for 6 days before I realized that there is no such thing as "wishful healing") and had to go to a doctor, he looked at it and sent me to a surgeon right then. The worse part was the numbing shots he had to give me. (8 of them. All around it). But as soon as the shots kicked in and it got numb, he made a small cut on in and it was imediate relief. ( but I'm warning you bro... the numbing shots are bad. Real bad!! They hurt like hell because the area is so sensitive and swollen).
Go back to the doctor or go see another one, if the 1st doctor you saw just wants you to "keep an eye on it". Keeping an eye on it, will not make it better or make it go away, believe me, I know! Cuz I tried that already. LOL
Mine was bad enough that the doc prescribed me Lortab 10s after he cut me, but I didnt need em after he did.
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Bird get to the Doc asap, sounds like you didnt get deep enough into the muscle and its spreading all over the place.
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The doctor gave me lortab 10 as well yesterday. I just talked to the doctor and told him whats happened and he told me that the antibiotic hasnt even kickin in yet. He said that he talked to two seperate surgeons and they said that I should give it one more day (to give the antibiotics time) and if not better by tomorrow afternoon or Friday morning to go immediately to the ER and be admitted for surgery.
Ill keep you guys informed.
THIS SHIT SUCKS.
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Stay positive bro and follow proper protocol you will be OK, you have done the right things. it takes at least 24 hours for the antibiotics to start working. just dont let it throw you off too much.....its under control.
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BirdMan- What kind of Anti-Biotics? Augmenten?
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BirdMan- What kind of Anti-Biotics? Augmenten?
Cephalexin 500mg/4 x's a day
its generic for Keflex
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Thats the same antibotics I was on. They're pretty strong. Gave me the shits REAL bad. But they do the job
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Cephalexin 500mg/4 x's a day
its generic for Keflex
Keflex tears my stomach up.
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Augmenten should come with 24 rolls of toilet paper and 3 cans of baby wipes 4 when those are gone.
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doesn't sound like fun. did you re-use a needle or something? why does this happen?
hope we get to hear some better news from you tomorrow!
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shit. keep us posted. take some pics!
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what brand of gear were you shooting?
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what brand of gear were you shooting?
I was using BD...Ive used it for my last three cycles and havent had any problems. And to answer a previous question I didnt reuse the pin...I draw back from the bottle and put a new needle on so it was the first time the pin had ever entered anything.
240...Im still having a hard time trying to take pictures because Im so stiff that I cant turn or manuever to take pics. Ill try to get my wife to take some tomorrow.
Fortunately the redness hasnt got any worse since this morning. The doc told me to use a sharpie every couple hours and draw lines where the redness has gone and it hasnt gotten any worse so Im hoping and praying that I might be over the hump.
Ill keep you updated throughout tomorrow.
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Ive heard other people have this same problem with BD Test E. the batches vary like a motherfucka.
there were some pretty shitty batches going around though and complaints about their Test E. BD even reformulated it at one point.
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Ive heard other people have this same problem with BD Test E. the batches vary like a motherfucka.
there were some pretty shitty batches going around though and complaints about their Test E. BD even reformulated it at one point.
Im starting to think that it is the BD Test E. I have never had a problem with any other legit gear. My first two or three cycles were even QV and I never had any problems. I did a cycle a few months ago with a some stuff including Test E from BD and I think the I might of got the abscess then but it wasnt bad. It was swolen, red and painful but it went away after a few days so Im thinking there was still some sort of small boil or something in my glute and I might of injected right into it and caused it to flare up. Time will tell.
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Im starting to think that it is the BD Test E. I have never had a problem with any other legit gear. My first two or three cycles were even QV and I never had any problems. I did a cycle a few months ago with a some stuff including Test E from BD and I think the I might of got the abscess then but it wasnt bad. It was swolen, red and painful but it went away after a few days so Im thinking there was still some sort of small boil or something in my glute and I might of injected right into it and caused it to flare up. Time will tell.
I have had no problems with the BD test E. A little pain at times, I just used their prop on monday in the quad and am having a hard time walking today, hope all the shots dont go that way :(
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I have had no problems with the BD test E. A little pain at times, I just used their prop on monday in the quad and am having a hard time walking today, hope all the shots dont go that way :(
I've heard their Prop is quite painful. But then again I've never used it & won't use Prop again for that matter.
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I've heard their Prop is quite painful. But then again I've never used it & won't use Prop again for that matter.
Any reason you don't like prop? or just their prop.
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Prop's good stuff. esp to come off longer stuff.
Nice bee sting.
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Any reason you don't like prop? or just their prop.
Just the pain associated with it. I've tried five different brands & it's been the same everytime - intense pain. The only way I've found to minimize it some it to shoot Prop with EQ & even that doesn't always work. Maybe I'm just extra sensitive to the ester or something. No other ester really seems to bother me.
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Just the pain associated with it. I've tried five different brands & it's been the same everytime - intense pain. The only way I've found to minimize it some it to shoot Prop with EQ & even that doesn't always work. Maybe I'm just extra sensitive to the ester or something. No other ester really seems to bother me.
Try farmak :)
it's only 50mg but painless and shoots like water
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Try farmak :)
it's only 50mg but painless and shoots like water
Maybe I will. But I've been burned by so called painless prop before.
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I had the same problem recently in my quad. I am always very careful but for some reason a 2cc sust shot got me good. Huge knot, even bigger pain and hot bath/massages did nothing. I bit the bullet and even did some self draining with a 23g and a 10cc syringe and honestly got about 4-5 cc`s total of crap out in two trys. I knew it was time to go to the Dr. and was given a 6 pk of Zithromax and about a week later I was great. I still heat/massage it and it is all but gone.
It was a very respected UG and my method is always safe so I was suprised.
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Try Delts? I like 1/2 cc each right after a real nice delt work out. Really blow 'em up.
Pump the livin shit out of 'em first!
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Do I have to do EVERYTHING for you knucle heads? lol
For those sensitive to Prop, buy this and mix it in. Id say 1:1
http://www.northolm.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/162?osCsid=0415a6f72dafa72597c719cc408f4efe
Merry CHRISTmas,
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Do I have to do EVERYTHING for you knucle heads? lol
For those sensitive to Prop, buy this and mix it in. Id say 1:1
http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=605
Merry CHRISTmas,
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You're a fucking idiot.. at 1:1 that would be at least 3cc's of vitamin B a week, that's 12 a month, you can get poisoning from that much vitamin B and end up in a much worse condition, you don't need more then a 1/4cc to dilute with, I know I do it all the time.
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Do I have to do EVERYTHING for you knucle heads? lol
For those sensitive to Prop, buy this and mix it in. Id say 1:1
http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=605
Merry CHRISTmas,
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I already shoot a little B12 with every shot (about 0.25ml). I've already solved the problem - I don't use Prop anymore. I can get the same effect from Test E or C (I just have to wait a little longer for it to kick in).
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Now thats just downright rude. I mistakenly copied the link for the 250ml instead of the 250mcg. Ill change it.
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PS Youre so tough. I made pee.
You're a fucking idiot.. at 1:1 that would be at least 3cc's of vitamin B a week, that's 12 a month, you can get poisoning from that much vitamin B and end up in a much worse condition, you don't need more then a 1/4cc to dilute with, I know I do it all the time.
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Thanks for the validation. Guess Im not a "fucking idiot" after all. Glad you didnt die like that tough guy said you would. He's got internet smarts.
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I already shoot a little B12 with every shot (about 0.25ml). I've already solved the problem - I don't use Prop anymore. I can get the same effect from Test E or C (I just have to wait a little longer for it to kick in).
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LOL.. ok newb, re-read my post for more insight.
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Just trying to help the cat, not establish my online toughness like you. Nice job by the way.
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LOL.. ok newb, re-read my post for more insight.
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If you get it cut,tell the doctor to be carefull about cutting through muscle.I had mine done two years ago and its never been the same since.They must have cut through muscle and everytime I squat,the glute feels like its going to tear off.Be carefull.
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HOLD EVERYTHING!!!
Ok, what is the dealio with this B12 injection stuff never heard of it.
Will someone explain, what it exactly does and why to mix it.
Also, what the proper mixing dosage should be and don't say like 1:1 or shit tell me a mcg amount incase different ones have different doses.
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HOLD EVERYTHING!!!
Ok, what is the dealio with this B12 injection stuff never heard of it.
Will someone explain, what it exactly does and why to mix it.
Also, what the proper mixing dosage should be and don't say like 1:1 or shit tell me a mcg amount incase different ones have different doses.
For me B12 takes away some of the pain of injection or at least the soreness later. But that's just me. Like I said in a previous post I only use about 0.25ml of B12.
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I made the mistake of saying to use B complex (usually 1000mcg of B12) instead of straight B12. You can use an oil based, low dose B12 (250mcg), to cut your prop with.
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For me B12 takes away some of the pain of injection or at least the soreness later. But that's just me. Like I said in a previous post I only use about 0.25ml of B12.
I've never used B12 for this but I've read that it can help. However, I've used just a simple oil and that helps a lot...I prefer cotton-seed.
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I've never used B12 for this but I've read that it can help. However, I've used just a simple oil and that helps a lot...I prefer cotton-seed.
Most other compounds don't bother me but I still use a little B12 - I figure a little extra in my system won't hurt.
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I made the mistake of saying to use B complex (usually 1000mcg of B12) instead of straight B12. You can use an oil based, low dose B12 (250mcg), to cut your prop with.
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Chill out bro, we're all friends on this board :)
no hard feelings..
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Well Birdman what is the outcome of the problem? Update us, please
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I've heard their Prop is quite painful. But then again I've never used it & won't use Prop again for that matter.
It seems for me the first shot or two are pretty painfull, then the body aclimates to the ester, and the pain lessens. But once and a while things just end up hurting or getting swollen. Could have to do with the length of time on, after a while your body says "stop shooting all that oil in me!". Palumbo mentioned a "serum sickness" as being a problem with long term AAS use.
The human body when pushed too hard for too long with drugs and lots of stress on the body will find a way to throw out the anchor and stop stuff. It is a self preservation mechanism and a fight to maintain homeostasis or a balance. It may do some painfull stuff to you to get your attention.
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X2... The 'f'ing idiot' part threw me a bit, but we're good.
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Chill out bro, we're all friends on this board :)
no hard feelings..
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Well Birdman what is the outcome of the problem? Update us, please
I agree, where is this thread going? I want to know what the Dr, said.
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I agree, where is this thread going? I want to know what the Dr, said.
I'd like to hear the "ending" as well.
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He dont feel like click'n keys right now. Prolly not siting for awhile.
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UPDATE:
I went back to the doctor on Friday and met with the surgeon and he looked at it and noticed that the abscess had rescessed. I had been using a black sharpee to show the movement of the redness. FORTUNATELY the doc didnt cut me and told me to stay on the Antibiotics for another week or so. I we still a bit scared but I went home and woke up this morning and the abscess was almost completley gone. Id say 90% of the discoloration is gone as well as the pain.
If it flares back up I will discuss.
Question for the board.
Would you avoid injecting into that side in the future.
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Glad to hear things are working out pretty good for you.
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I wouldn't go within 8" of that area for months.
BOdy remembers that shit.
I got so many bound up small scar tissue spots from cycle & work injuries & iron.
These bastards create mobility impingement unless you work/strech (painfull) it out at the right time.
How many people say they are worse after a knee surgery? They never stretched to get back every millimeter of
range of motion. Let that thing heal a bit. Then get some nice gal to massage, massage... Before it can do any funny tissue creation. Hard lumps don't flex, no matter how you got 'em.
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UPDATE:
I went back to the doctor on Friday and met with the surgeon and he looked at it and noticed that the abscess had rescessed. I had been using a black sharpee to show the movement of the redness. FORTUNATELY the doc didnt cut me and told me to stay on the Antibiotics for another week or so. I we still a bit scared but I went home and woke up this morning and the abscess was almost completley gone. Id say 90% of the discoloration is gone as well as the pain.
If it flares back up I will discuss.
Question for the board.
Would you avoid injecting into that side in the future.
Glad things turned out well. i would like to back this up a little to the original problem. I have had a similar thing happen a few times over the years. Site after a couple days post injection becomes swollen, red, warm and painfull to the point of having a hard time walking, in the leg site cases. First time this happened I did go to the doc and as almost any doc would do was diagnosed with cellulitus. Was given a course of augmentin and sent on my way well everything was OK in a few days after that. This happened 3 times so far on this cycle.......well its been a long cycle :)
I don't feel this is caused by a bacterial infection, its more than likely a reaction to the BA in the gear. Also at time's you may inject into areas like tendons or other sensitive areas and this also can cause this type reaction. Usually about a week after the shot things are fine.
Right now I'm prepping for a show in a month and this happened to me last week on my quad. I could hardly walk and the thing got red and big time swollen, I could not even flex my leg, it looked terrible! Needless to say I was a little freaked but knew that this has happened to me before and to just keep my head on straight. For the last few days it has been getting better and this morning most of the swelling is down, whew!
Now this is where it gets tricky, when someone comes on this board with this kind of issue the proper advice to them should be cautious like it was. We don't know you or really whats going on, so in an effort to help and be safe we may error on the side of caution, really nothing wrong with that. Heres where it gets scary as a gear user you must learn perfectly how to listen to your own body and know how it reacts. You also must become very educated on the body and how things work, this will take lots of reading. This can be hard when people are saying go to the doctor ASAP, but you know from experience that you don't need to and things will be fine. This takes a lot of trust in yourself.
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words of wisdom right there. thanks!
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so do we have an inclination of what exactly caused this. It looks like it was not bacteria based. Birdaman stated that he had an issue in that area before and that he may have stuck the injection into something. Or as Luv said is this just soemthing that happens and you have to know that you are prone to it?
Does this type of isue seem to happen more with quad shots (haven't pinned here before) or with buttocks shots?
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i agree with luv2hurt, i just recently shot 1cc of test400 and 1cc of prop in my delt and the next day it had bloated up, it was hot, red, and soft to touch, it made a smal heat rash spread across my chest but it was just my bodys reaction to the high ba. it gave me a huge fever and flu like symptoms. but today im feeling fine, the redness is gone and its not so sore. maybe you just had a reaction to the high ba in the bd