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Title: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: donrhummy on March 01, 2007, 10:00:45 PM
The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Condor on March 01, 2007, 10:04:49 PM
That pic is missing his greatest improvement---his back. 
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 01, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
He doesn't look too different to me....it looks like he just didn't use Lasix in 2006.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 01, 2007, 10:17:20 PM
Oh yeah and he overtanned in 2006
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: donrhummy on March 01, 2007, 10:18:56 PM
That pic is missing his greatest improvement---his back. 

Done.


uh...but I don't think he improved that much... to me, it looks like his upper lats got better, and his lower lats got worse (as did his lower back/"christmas tree").
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on March 01, 2007, 11:18:03 PM
Done.


uh...but I don't think he improved that much... to me, it looks like his upper lats got better, and his lower lats got worse (as did his lower back/"christmas tree").

Upper lats? Lower lats?  ::)
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Andre Nickatina on March 01, 2007, 11:23:30 PM
He very well could have been better because Ronnie was unbeatable.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: GoneAway on March 01, 2007, 11:29:46 PM
Looks better from the back, looks worse from the front, but a pic AFTER the Olympia is not a valid comparison to a pic on the day.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: ThaRealist on March 02, 2007, 07:59:38 AM
From every angle you can tell his obliques got wider...Cutler will go down in the history books as one of the least impressive Mr. Olympia's...He deserved the title only because Coleman didn't come in up to par...An on target Ronnie will always destroy a perfect Cutler hands down....
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: donrhummy on March 02, 2007, 09:15:31 AM
Upper lats? Lower lats?  ::)

Hey, I understand what you're saying but LOOK at the picture. His lats upper insertion point (by the armpit) & the teres major look thicker than in 2001. His lats lower insertion point (near the external obliques) looks as though it's receeded or something. It definitely is not as thick there and looks almost to have a higher insertion point than in the past.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: chainsaw on March 02, 2007, 09:20:30 AM
You are guys something forgetting important..

The skin of a deer and the

lips are hamstring, young calf!
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: IceCold on March 02, 2007, 09:27:04 AM
He doesn't look too different to me....it looks like he just didn't use Lasix in 2006.

actually, i dont think he did.

jay said that he had some illness and that took care of him 'drying out'.

some stomach virus where he shat constantly.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 02, 2007, 09:40:27 AM
He looks better in 2001!
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Livewire on March 02, 2007, 09:59:22 AM
He looks better in 2001!

yeah he does.

hey, you can leave that 535 on the bar when yo're done with the bench, mr intenseone!
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
actually, i dont think he did.

jay said that he had some illness and that took care of him 'drying out'.

some stomach virus where he shat constantly.

how convenient......
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: jaejonna on March 02, 2007, 10:16:24 AM
Jay 2001 was his all time best....
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: getfast81 on March 02, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
From every angle you can tell his obliques got wider...Cutler will go down in the history books as one of the least impressive Mr. Olympia's...He deserved the title only because Coleman didn't come in up to par...An on target Ronnie will always destroy a perfect Cutler hands down....
True that.  But Jay's back did improve.  He nailed his condition in 01 and then his back declined in 03,04, and kind of came to the party in 05 and 06 he nailed it again.  That inner back is just ripped up compared to 01.  He always had the width he finally added the detail.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: DK II on March 02, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
his hamstrings suck.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: chainsaw on March 02, 2007, 11:41:34 AM
After second taking  look at,

glutes ripped legs more.

Chicken hair and fish ears.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: the shadow on March 02, 2007, 11:44:06 AM
After second taking  look at,

glutes ripped legs more.

Chicken hair and fish ears.
fish years and chicken hair are not judged in bodybuilding..so whether he has dog ears or lion hair..nobody gives a fuck about it
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: alexxx on March 02, 2007, 11:45:15 AM
The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.

He doesn't measure up either way.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:49:14 AM
The left pic is just after the 2001 Mr. O, the right is at the 2006 Mr. O. Did he progress? Now that he's the best bodybuilder in the world (i.e. the Mr. Olympia) is he better than when he was the 2nd best?

To me it looks like he's made his lats bigger and his pecs thicker and that's it for improvements. His waist a LOT wider/dumpier, his arms look smaller, his delts a tad smaller and he's got less separation.

2001 Jay wins in the midsection
2006 Jay wins in the back and overall mass (although it isnt obvious from these pics)

its close but his back is far ahead of what it was i will go with 2006 Jay
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 12:14:23 PM
If you really think about it, Jay could get worse yet still win the Olympia.

Comparing it to baseball, say in 2001 Jay Cutler hit 50 home runs, but Ronnie hit 55, Ronnie would win, but if in 2006 Jay only hit 40 home runs, but Ronnie only hit 35, Jay would be the best, as long as he beats everyone else.

SUMMARY:  Jay may have gotten worse, but Ronnie got MUCH worse, and Jay beat Ronnie.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: the shadow on March 02, 2007, 12:16:37 PM
If you really think about it, Jay could get worse yet still win the Olympia.

Comparing it to baseball, say in 2001 Jay Cutler hit 50 home runs, but Ronnie hit 55, Ronnie would win, but if in 2006 Jay only hit 40 home runs, but Ronnie only hit 35, Jay would be the best, as long as he beats everyone else.

SUMMARY:  Jay may have gotten worse, but Ronnie got MUCH worse, and Jay beat Ronnie.
so you're telling me tha jay was so worse that he beat ronnie? ???
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
so you're telling me tha jay was so worse that he beat ronnie? ???

Yes, he beat Ronnie, who had a torn lat and torn tricep
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: ThaRealist on March 02, 2007, 12:20:55 PM
Yes, he beat Ronnie, who had a torn lat and torn tricep

The shadow didn't understand what you were saying at all.....LoL
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 12:25:50 PM
If you really think about it, Jay could get worse yet still win the Olympia.


Unlikely; they'll soon give it to someone younger like Martinez. Jay is the Columbu of the new millenium, a good fill-in until someone better.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 12:27:49 PM
Unlikely; they'll soon give it to someone younger like Martinez. Jay is the Columbu of the new millenium, a good fill-in until someone better.

I agree with you, I was just trying to say that if no one improved, and Jay got worse, but he still was better than everyone else, he would be the winner.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: the shadow on March 02, 2007, 12:28:24 PM
The shadow didn't understand what you were saying at all.....LoL
all he was talking about was these stupid home run theories...its better to post in a non-retard manner
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: the shadow on March 02, 2007, 12:31:33 PM
I agree with you, I was just trying to say that if no one improved, and Jay got worse, but he still was better than everyone else, he would be the winner.
...ahahah what?..'i was just trying to say that if no one improved, and jay got worse,but he still was better than every one else,he would be the winner'???? :-\..dude you're stupid
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 12:34:20 PM
I agree with you, I was just trying to say that if no one improved, and Jay got worse, but he still was better than everyone else, he would be the winner.

Ya; there's no reason to attack him the way rabid Arnold & Sergio groupies like Alexxx do, he deserves credit.
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 12:35:04 PM
...ahahah what?..'i was just trying to say that if no one improved, and jay got worse,but he still was better than every one else,he would be the winner'???? :-\..dude you're stupid

Repeat this in pakistani urdu, it would be easier to understand. ::)
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: chainsaw on March 02, 2007, 12:46:46 PM
Veins arms Jay big has....

Femur Fern plant skin..

Rabbit beak, and lizard hair.

legs of a SNAKE!!!
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 12:59:12 PM
...ahahah what?..'i was just trying to say that if no one improved, and jay got worse,but he still was better than every one else,he would be the winner'???? :-\..dude you're stupid

don't blame me if you can't understand a simple concept
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 02, 2007, 09:20:42 PM

hey, you can leave that 535 on the bar when yo're done with the bench, mr intenseone!

Why.....are you trying to kill yourself?
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 02, 2007, 09:24:37 PM
LOL.....here's "Livewire" after he told me to leave the 535 on the bar!!
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Knives on March 02, 2007, 09:59:47 PM
LOL.....here's "Livewire" after he told me to leave the 535 on the bar!!

is there supposed to be a picture?
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 02, 2007, 10:02:26 PM
Oops.........

Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: gymrat3082 on March 03, 2007, 08:59:09 AM
2001 better conditioning....2006 bigger better BACK
Title: Re: Jay 2001 vs Jay 2006
Post by: Andre Nickatina on March 03, 2007, 09:03:46 AM
Veins arms Jay big has....

Femur Fern plant skin..

Rabbit beak, and lizard hair.

legs of a SNAKE!!!
WTF ???