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Title: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:11:51 PM
how and when did this happen?  :-\


bit watery aswell  ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:12:55 PM
monstrous legs.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: benchmstr on March 03, 2007, 07:14:24 PM
how and when did this happen?  :-\


bit watery aswell  ::)
not enough drugs,he actually looks kind of healthy in those pics compared to the past

bench
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:15:50 PM
monstrous legs.

indeed....any ideas squadfather?

when did this happen.......

his legs are nuts
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: akers1021 on March 03, 2007, 07:16:15 PM
Wow..... :o


Looks as bad if not worse than Coleman's
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:17:22 PM
indeed....any ideas squadfather?

when did this happen.......

his legs are nuts
he probably did it with his stupid Ronnie and Johnnie Jackson like Texas style training, swinging up wayy too heavy t bars and bb rows.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2007, 07:17:49 PM
monstrous legs.
Its really an illusion.

HE is TINY in person.

His arms are 16 inches at best.  No shit.  That makes his legs look bigger.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:18:22 PM
and again... ;)
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:19:03 PM
the fuccking legs are insane though, looks like someone opened up the skin and inserted 50 pounds of steak in each one, ridiculous.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:20:44 PM
Its really an illusion.

HE is TINY in person.

His arms are 16 inches at best.  No shit.  That makes his legs look bigger.

i agree to an extent, you towered over him in that little interview you did with him, you also appeared wider than him, his arms do look horrible in these shots.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Luv2Hurt on March 03, 2007, 07:21:12 PM
Man it does look bad!  I have to wonder how someone tears their lat though?  I agree the texas training style may be the cause but man to rip your lat like that must take some big weights and a good ability to isolate your lats enough.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:22:40 PM
Its really an illusion.

HE is TINY in person.

His arms are 16 inches at best.  No shit.  That makes his legs look bigger.


yeah.....but whatt height are you Adonis?

hes 5'6".....the amount of muscle packed onto his legs is out of hand
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:23:07 PM
Man it does look bad!  I have to wonder how someone tears their lat though?  I agree the texas training style may be the cause but man to rip your lat like that must take some big weights and a good ability to isolate your lats enough.
have you seen the way these clowns train? they load the bar with 400-500 pounds and then proceed to yank the bar 4 inches and then lower it again.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:25:04 PM
have you seen the way these clowns train? they load the bar with 400-500 pounds and then proceed to yank the bar 4 inches and then lower it again.


lmao.........your right......its nuts
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Luv2Hurt on March 03, 2007, 07:27:51 PM
have you seen the way these clowns train? they load the bar with 400-500 pounds and then proceed to yank the bar 4 inches and then lower it again.

Yeah that would do it.  I think my spine would sheer off at the pelvis if I tryed a 500lb barbell or t-bar row
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: akers1021 on March 03, 2007, 07:28:58 PM

lmao.........your right......its nuts



No......it's stupid.

This is an example of what happens too.... ;D
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: MAXX on March 03, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
that heavy, crappy form training was going to catch up to him sooner or later.

Now he has 3 torn muscles. One Bicep, one triep, and now his lat.

Better to train smart like Cutler.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:35:14 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on March 03, 2007, 07:36:19 PM
and again... ;)

Dude is done as a bodybuilder.  Done.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 07:37:02 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: kh300 on March 03, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
have you seen the way these clowns train? they load the bar with 400-500 pounds and then proceed to yank the bar 4 inches and then lower it again.

your right,, some people rip on cutler for lighter weights but he's too smart for that 'powerbuilding' bullshit
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:39:20 PM
your right,, some people rip on cutler for lighter weights but he's too smart for that 'powerbuilding' bullshit
yeah, Cutler doesn't really train "light" but he's smart to keep his bb rows at 365 or below but he does go pretty heavy on t bars, 9 plates.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: akers1021 on March 03, 2007, 07:43:19 PM
yeah, Cutler doesn't really train "light" but he's smart to keep his bb rows at 365 or below but he does go pretty heavy on t bars, 9 plates.

Squad.  do you think Cutler is gonna have an injury trying for Sandow #2 this year?
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Wombat on March 03, 2007, 07:44:10 PM
it looks like branch lost some size in his upper body and put on size in his lower body....The opposite of what he should be doing....That and his conditioning...
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 07:45:13 PM
Squad.  do you think Cutler is gonna have an injury trying for Sandow #2 this year?
if he doesn't cool it a little bit on his back training he will, i know this sounds crazy coming from someone who admires strength but there's no reason for any of these dudes to go over 315 on bb rows or 6-7 plates on t bars for full range reps.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: akers1021 on March 03, 2007, 07:48:15 PM
if he doesn't cool it a little bit on his back training he will, i know this sounds crazy coming from someone who admires strength but there's no reason for any of these dudes to go over 315 on bb rows or 6-7 plates on t bars for full range reps.


I agree the weight these guys use now is just getting STUPID, the rash of injuries the last few year is just amazing....

come to think of it how many top guys have a BAD injury?

Branch
Coleman
Freeman
Tamila ( his whole Physique is an injury)
Who Else
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Rampage on March 03, 2007, 08:03:58 PM
In that 1 post which compares branch before and after , you can see his legs improvment

His legs now resemble those of Mustafa.......amazing legs
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: ribonucleic on March 03, 2007, 08:07:26 PM
there's no reason for any of these dudes to go over 315 on bb rows or 6-7 plates on t bars for full range reps.

DVD buyers demand to see maximum poundages.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 08:12:16 PM
lmao

yesssss this is it.......dvd buyers demand maximum poundages.....


but in actual fact this is not the case....seems like jay doesnt give a fuck....he just trains with no showing off
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: trab on March 03, 2007, 08:13:05 PM
I think that heavy weight builds a quality Cutler does not have.Even ripped.
I cant believe how long Ronnie lasted throwing plate like that.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Squadfather on March 03, 2007, 08:14:15 PM
lmao

yesssss this is it.......dvd buyers demand maximum poundages.....


but in actual fact this is not the case....seems like jay doesnt give a fuck....he just trains with no showing off
yeah but anyone who is expecting to see strict form from Jay is going to be disappointed, Jay swings the weights more than anyone i've seen on just about everything.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: b.c. on March 03, 2007, 08:14:35 PM
if he doesn't cool it a little bit on his back training he will, i know this sounds crazy coming from someone who admires strength but there's no reason for any of these dudes to go over 315 on bb rows or 6-7 plates on t bars for full range reps.

Exactly right... this is the cause for most of  the lat tear and partial lat tears.  Keep it at 315-365 and these injuries can be avoided.  Too bad for Branch though, runner up last year and now out of the top 6.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 03, 2007, 08:18:56 PM
shawn rays form is nice


and of course Arnolds is perfect
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Money Man on March 03, 2007, 08:42:55 PM
The human body can only take some much abuse,and will start to break down.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on March 03, 2007, 11:03:26 PM
Maybe they should rename "Metro-Flex" gym down there where Ronnie and Branch train into "Metro-WRECKS DA FLEX"........
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: The Heckler on March 03, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Maybe they should rename "Metro-Flex" gym down there where Ronnie and Branch train into "Metro-WRECKS DA FLEX"........

 ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Alex23 on March 04, 2007, 12:17:52 AM
Maybe they should rename "Metro-Flex" gym down there where Ronnie and Branch train into "Metro-WRECKS DA FLEX"........


Maybe you should stop eating burgers at the fastfood franchise you manage in good 'ol Tenesse and actually start hitting the "Metro-WRECKS" for a change. Maybe this way you could break the 167lb barrier.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: bigmikecox on March 04, 2007, 12:24:38 AM
He has no seperation.  Branch looked better when he won the Europa a few years ago.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: 400kwgtr on March 11, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
Is Branches career over now? how do u come back from a injury like that? does he have massive surgery to repair it? can they even repair an injury like that?
 
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: phyxsius on March 11, 2007, 05:33:36 PM
Branch won't live past 40
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: saucetradomous on March 11, 2007, 05:41:25 PM
In that 1 post which compares branch before and after , you can see his legs improvment

His legs now resemble those of Mustafa.......amazing legs

Yeah but his upper body looks way better before those leg improvments
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Sir Bigness on March 11, 2007, 06:10:26 PM
Shitty form = muscle tears. Coleman, Warren, Freeman, Platz, etc...
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Marty Champions on March 11, 2007, 06:20:25 PM
dude has like no abdominal devolopment
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: johnnytosh on March 11, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
EXACTLY,
While I dont wish injury on anybody, he desrves this 100%.
After tearing his bicep "Curling" (heaving) 275 pounds, he tore his tricep, and now this..
Fuck all that Metroflex "YEAH BUDDY" macho horseshit..

Branch is STOOOOPID.. I hope he recovers...


that heavy, crappy form training was going to catch up to him sooner or later.

Now he has 3 torn muscles. One Bicep, one triep, and now his lat.

Better to train smart like Cutler.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: getfast81 on March 12, 2007, 12:13:54 AM
 ??? Whoa heavy training works all the time.  These guys blow their wad precontest when it is very easy to blow a muscle or two.  All it is, is backing off precontest.  ASK my man Dorian YATES. 
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: adipo8 on March 12, 2007, 04:00:36 AM
it looks like branch lost some size in his upper body and put on size in his lower body....The opposite of what he should be doing....That and his conditioning...

Ronnie rockel will beat Branch next time
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: honest on March 12, 2007, 04:23:29 AM
If only these guys would stop shootting 3ccs in each lat twice a week or if their going to, train lighter, nothing like a few ccs giving you that full feeling whilst you row 405 for reps then snap, good bye lat. 
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: Petrucci on March 12, 2007, 04:50:10 AM
Like someone said, guys who use heavy weights have a kind of physique and thickness others dont have...(Johnnie , Banch, Ronnie, etc)
 And lets get real people...people who use light weights and have great physiques (for a pro a least) HAVE to be genetic beasts....like Flex Wheeler for instance or maybe Gunter, and even those guys put some big numbers a lot of times...
 Jay may not force himself 100% to beat his records on weight, but he dont use 'girlie' weights either...he do go heavy, and after all, he is more of a 'volume' guy...And even the fact he do not use perfect form may be a thing that prevent him from injuries (just look at Dorian...Perfect form with lots of intensity led him to what???)
 Ronnie may have his injuries but have in mind the guy has like 15, 20 YEARS of heavy trainning...its not like he have a tear every year....
 Inhuman volume may work a lot for some guys (lee for instance, or maybe Milos?) and prevent him to have injuries...but this doesnt look to work for anyone....
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 05:49:25 AM
Can you fix a torn lat?
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: monstercalves on March 12, 2007, 07:01:50 AM
yep same as any other muscle

tendon to bone

i suppose it would be more complicated than the common pec/bicep tears
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: eastcoastbbman on March 12, 2007, 10:22:12 AM
if he doesn't cool it a little bit on his back training he will, i know this sounds crazy coming from someone who admires strength but there's no reason for any of these dudes to go over 315 on bb rows or 6-7 plates on t bars for full range reps.








then why do you make fun of me so much for the fact that ive learned how to make lighter weights work for me?? this is why im training at 42 and injury free after 25 years in the gym.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: dizzleman06 on March 12, 2007, 01:13:11 PM
Its really an illusion.

HE is TINY in person.

His arms are 16 inches at best.  No shit.  That makes his legs look bigger.


your a complete idiot... he is as thick as you are tall...  and i bet you wouldn't say that shit to his face you pussy.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: ali23 on March 12, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
why do you have a pic of him doing a side chest.. how does that show his injury??
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 12, 2007, 04:42:42 PM
Thats a pro these days? Dude looks like shit, wouldn't crack top ten at any pro show in the mid 90's.
Title: Re: Branch Warren's right lat injury (pics)
Post by: LeePriestLover on June 29, 2007, 12:55:30 AM
Most intelligent post in this entire thread (although it could use a grammar injection).

Although I've never admired Jay's physique and think that he's only top 5 material and not Mr. O, he does have one of the worlds top 10 best physiques RIGHT NOW.  And I will not say he lifts LIGHT WEIGHTS by any means - he just doesn't feel the need to show off when he's depleted. 

In his latest video he's doing deadlifts with 5 plates for a couple of sets, bench 4... very impressive.  And he's not "Swinging" the weights as some of you like to think.  Look around the gym and see how the stiff lifters stand there with thier elbows buried in thier obliques thinking this is "perfect" form.  Jay uses his entire arm to get the weight up on a standing dumbbell curl - the same way that Ronnie does it on his video when he's curling the 75's - and his biceps are CLEARLY Contracting.  Your body doesn't have to be "stiff" to stimulate the muscle.

Jay trains very strictly compared to tons of guys at the gym, and a hell of a lot stricter than Branch Warren or Johnnie Jackson. 

Ronnie, on the other hand, is a genetic MUTANT and you guys still don't accept that.  Before he even LIFTED WEIGHTS he had striations and veins in his legs from simply playing on a football field.  Before he juiced he had 20 inch arms.  That's genetics, and he's going to get away with a lot more than most of us ever will.

Oh, and by the way - the guy is in his early 40's --- and he suffers his first injury, which isn't even a major concern compared to the rest of his physique.

I agree that the weights are getting crazy, but to exaggerate and say all of these guys use shit form and only move the weight "4 inches" is like saying True Adonis is a bodybuilder - it just ain't true.


Like someone said, guys who use heavy weights have a kind of physique and thickness others dont have...(Johnnie , Banch, Ronnie, etc)
 And lets get real people...people who use light weights and have great physiques (for a pro a least) HAVE to be genetic beasts....like Flex Wheeler for instance or maybe Gunter, and even those guys put some big numbers a lot of times...
 Jay may not force himself 100% to beat his records on weight, but he dont use 'girlie' weights either...he do go heavy, and after all, he is more of a 'volume' guy...And even the fact he do not use perfect form may be a thing that prevent him from injuries (just look at Dorian...Perfect form with lots of intensity led him to what???)
 Ronnie may have his injuries but have in mind the guy has like 15, 20 YEARS of heavy trainning...its not like he have a tear every year....
 Inhuman volume may work a lot for some guys (lee for instance, or maybe Milos?) and prevent him to have injuries...but this doesnt look to work for anyone....