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Title: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigbalddaddy on March 03, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
Tim got owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwned like a baby every round, complete domination, complete ownage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: 20inch calves on March 03, 2007, 09:49:04 PM
all i can say is randy is one of the best fighters of all time. 43yrs. old and still dominating..speed, strength wrestling and a good stand up. the guy is great.
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 09:54:09 PM
when Silvia was the champ , Mirko had pretty good chance of getting the belt.....with Randy on the top right now it's a totally different story :-\
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 03, 2007, 09:55:58 PM
Obviously Silvia didnt take this fight seriously. Did he even bother to train for it?
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Post by: dootle on March 03, 2007, 10:00:08 PM
Randy is the MAN!!!!! he looked better than ever!!! AWESOME!!!
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 03, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
finally!!!! I'm so happy.. just cause I hate Sylvia so godamn much!


but Randy is the man.. no doubt! phenomenal fighter.
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Post by: bigbalddaddy on March 03, 2007, 10:06:56 PM
when Silvia was the champ , Mirko had pretty good chance of getting the belt.....with Randy on the top right now it's a totally different story :-\

I think your right!  Randy matches up real good against CC.  I think Randy is on a huge roll right now...
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 03, 2007, 10:07:56 PM
I think your right!  Randy matches up real good against CC.  I think Randy is on a huge roll right now...

That should be a crazy fight to see.. Randy is a much better wrestler/ground skills but he can't come close to Crocop's striking and roundhouse kicks
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 10:13:48 PM
I think your right!  Randy matches up real good against CC.  I think Randy is on a huge roll right now...

 Silva was all about strength, power , outreaching most fighters,good technique but far away from great,   he was a perfect target fo CC, on the other side Randy is probably themost technical HW fighter at the moment, very crisp striking and outstanding ground game , pretty much the same size as CC and just as strong....  - not good for CC :-\
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Post by: Fury on March 03, 2007, 10:28:40 PM
Silva was all about strength, power , outreaching most fighters,good technique but far away from great,   he was a perfect target fo CC, on the other side Randy is probably themost technical HW fighter at the moment, very crisp striking and outstanding ground game , pretty much the same size as CC and just as strong....  - not good for CC :-\

Yeah, because CroCop hasn't gone up against great wrestlers before.  ::)

Is this where you claim Randy will destroy CC like Gomi/Diaz?
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 03, 2007, 10:39:31 PM
Silva was all about strength, power , outreaching most fighters,good technique but far away from great,   he was a perfect target fo CC, on the other side Randy is probably themost technical HW fighter at the moment, very crisp striking and outstanding ground game , pretty much the same size as CC and just as strong....  - not good for CC :-\

Strength and striking wise, not even CLOSE to CroCop..
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Post by: Kwon on March 03, 2007, 10:41:24 PM
Yes, that's what i was hoping for, but i was hoping even more for Crocop VS Sylvia, so CC could do a LHK KO on the Ogre.

Hope Randy won't get hurt vs CC!
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Post by: lilbg on March 03, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
Amazing!!!!  I was on the edge of my seat the whole time thinking Randy was gonna get dropped.  I never could have expected this outcome but I put money on Randy anyways.  What was up with his striking and head movement?  This has to have been his best stand-up I've ever seen.  I am worried Crocop will finish him but Randy has accomplished so much he can lose and still be the great admired fighter he has always been.  Glad to see Franklin win also... little disappointed in Hughes performance but he got the win.
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 10:47:52 PM
Strength and striking wise, not even CLOSE to CroCop..


  some were saying the same about Fedor's striking, but after tehir fight start giving more credit to his stand up game. Same thing was said about Randy before Randy vs Chuck N1 fight.....All i'm saying is taht people underestimate Randy's striking....
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Post by: dirtysanchez on March 03, 2007, 10:49:22 PM
I was shocked as hell, but in a good way!  Randy Freaking Couture!!!
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Post by: Carmello on March 03, 2007, 10:53:30 PM
Hughes could eat cheese all day. It's no different seeing him fight, and watching 2 people play street fighter 2 with someone pinned in the corner. He's no champ. He's a chump that cheeses his way to victory. It's not even interesting to see him fight and that's why he won and still got booed to hell tonight. As far as Randy goes, he's the Jordan of the game still learning, and applying at age 43. If Silvia looked bad, it's not cause he wasn't prepared, it's cause Randy knew what he was doing and had all the answers to make him look bad, so eat shit haters. Total shut out! and Crocop is very overrated. He'll meet his match when he fights a real fighter.
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 10:57:03 PM
Hughes could eat cheese all day. It's no different seeing him fight, and watching 2 people play street fighter 2 with someone pinned in the corner. He's no champ. He's a chump that cheeses his way to victory. It's not even interesting to see him fight and that's why he won and still got booed to hell tonight. As far as Randy goes, he's the Jordan of the game still learning, and applying at age 43. If Silvia looked bad, it's not cause he wasn't prepared, it's cause Randy knew what he was doing and had all the answers to make him look bad, so eat shit haters. Total shut out! and Crocop is very overrated. He'll meet his match when he fights a real fighter.

 Agreed about Randy, you wrong about Hughes though.....
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Post by: Fury on March 03, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
  some were saying the same about Fedor's striking, but after tehir fight start giving more credit to his stand up game. Same thing was said about Randy before Randy vs Chuck N1 fight.....All i'm saying is taht people underestimate Randy's striking....

It's not anywhere near CroCop's level. Are you fucking retarded or did you just start watching MMA last week? Either way, you don't know shit, but that's more and more obvious with every comment you make.
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 11:42:59 PM
It's not anywhere near CroCop's level. Are you fucking retarded or did you just start watching MMA last week? Either way, you don't know shit, but that's more and more obvious with every comment you make.

blah,blah,blah......shut the hell up you fat bitch, if you disagree with me just ignore me you schmoe....I'v heard enough of your crap
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Post by: Fury on March 03, 2007, 11:44:59 PM
blah,blah,blah......shut the hell up you fat bitch, if you disagree with me just ignore me you schmoe....I'v heard enough of your crap

What are you going to do? Beat me up you TUF dipshit?

Better watch out CroCop, according to G, Randy can outstrike you!!!!!!

Go ahead and make the claim that CC will get destroyed. I know you're itching to.  ::)
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Post by: G on March 03, 2007, 11:47:54 PM
What are you going to do? Beat me up you TUF dipshit?

Better watch out CroCop, according to G, Randy can outstrike you!!!!!!

Go ahead and make the claim that CC will get destroyed. I know you're itching to.  ::)

  I'd like to beat the shit out of you , but you are too big of a pussy to ever wanna meet me
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Post by: MindSpin on March 03, 2007, 11:49:12 PM
This fight was insane.  Made my week!  The red-neck is done!!!
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Post by: Fury on March 03, 2007, 11:54:15 PM
  I'd like to beat the shit out of you , but you are too big of a pussy to ever wanna meet me

Hello meltdown!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: G on March 04, 2007, 12:05:35 AM
 I'm gonna beat you senselessly and then i'm gonna rape you in front of you family -  just to degrade you, it'll be embarrassing, fat man, i promise.
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Post by: Fury on March 04, 2007, 12:26:11 AM
I'm gonna beat you senselessly and then i'm gonna rape you in front of you family -  just to degrade you, it'll be embarrassing, fat man, i promise.

You're melting down pretty badly here, tiny. Keep going, this is amusing.

Watch out Crocop!!!!!
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Post by: G on March 04, 2007, 12:29:25 AM
no meltdown what so ever , fool, cool as hell here....
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Post by: BDsauce on March 04, 2007, 01:11:51 AM
Mirko will rape the old man.

Hope this helps.
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 04, 2007, 01:39:19 AM
Silva was all about strength, power , outreaching most fighters,good technique but far away from great,   he was a perfect target fo CC, on the other side Randy is probably themost technical HW fighter at the moment, very crisp striking and outstanding ground game , pretty much the same size as CC and just as strong....  - not good for CC :-\

Hey I love Randy as much as the next guy, but he is far from the most technical HW fighter.  His striking, although it look good against Tim, is far from technical.  He did use a good peakaboo structure to enter and throw an overhand, left hook combo seven times that reached it's mark.  Tim should have realized he was counterpunching off of his weak jab and thrown a cross or right hook.  Randy's ground work is hardly stuff of legend as well.  What he is good at is his clinch game, and the ability to push the pace.  I think Mirko is tailor made to beat Randy.  I would love to see Randy get the win against Mirko, but I certainly wouldn't put money down on him.  I attended a Straightblast Gym seminar with the Natural years ago, and he truly is a wonderful human being. 
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Post by: Nathan on March 04, 2007, 07:55:33 AM
Tim should have put his F***ing hands up! makes it pretty easy when your hands are at your waist. lol
Randy Is far superior we all knew this! I was just worried about him getting past that 1 foot reach deficit.
But Randy was smarter he kept his dam hands up and did some awesome dodging and of course on the ground Randy's not in any danger from Tim.
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Post by: G on March 04, 2007, 08:26:26 AM
If Mirko gets through Gonzaga , his next fight is against Randy, sometime in the summer , - thats what Dana said!  Dana's comment on Wandi/Hendo  -qoute -   "......thats cause people in Pride are fucking retarded.........fucking geniuses..."   ;D ;D ;D

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1108
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Post by: Nathan on March 04, 2007, 08:34:11 AM
I feel sorry for Randy then. But imagin if he won boy would that be an uppset and a half.
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Post by: lilbg on March 04, 2007, 09:12:31 AM
Randy's Striking has improved but he is no Crocop and I really hate saying that.  Whoever said CC is overrated will be eating their words soon enough although I will have my fingers crossed in Randy's favor.

WAR RANDY.... BITCHES!
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Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 04, 2007, 10:03:44 AM
Congratulations, Randy. What an inspired performance. Complete domination.


Proved me wrong with his win. I had Sylvia's size advantage deciding the outcome. Randy is a bad mofo, for sure. Bring on Cro Cop!


By the way, anyone notice how Sylvia brought up that he was injured going into the bout, post fight?

"Not trying to take anything from Randy's win."   

Then why bring it up at all, you douchebag hillbilly?
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Post by: Fury on March 04, 2007, 10:08:54 AM
Congratulations, Randy. What an inspired performance. Complete domination.


Proved me wrong with his win. I had Sylvia's size advantage deciding the outcome. Randy is a bad mofo, for sure. Bring on Cro Cop!


By the way, anyone notice how Sylvia brought up that he was injured going into the bout, post fight?

"Not trying to take anything from Randy's win."   

Then why bring it up at all, you douchebag hillbilly?

He can't cope with the fact that he'll never hold a UFC/Pride/K1 Hero belt again.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 04, 2007, 10:55:32 AM
He can't cope with the fact that he'll never hold a UFC/Pride/K1 Hero belt again.

NEVER, EVER.
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Post by: scooter on March 04, 2007, 11:06:08 AM
I was really amazed with the fight randy pshed the pace he did what he wanted to all night. I think that dana will put tim vs crocop because he is the 1 contender in the hw division then he will give him a fight with the champ. I would love to see crocop destroy tim
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Post by: 20inch calves on March 04, 2007, 01:48:04 PM
i def give the edge to cro cop but last night randy proved you can never ever count him out. one thing i will say if randy can get cro cop on the ground he could def win.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 04, 2007, 04:52:34 PM
i def give the edge to cro cop but last night randy proved you can never ever count him out. one thing i will say if randy can get cro cop on the ground he could def win.

True, but Randy was up a against a gimp, that 1) Doesn't know how to fight  2) Is afraid to take any chances and put himself out there..
For the most part, Randy was fighting a tree that occasionally throws a jab :)
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 04, 2007, 05:56:05 PM
If Mirko gets through Gonzaga , his next fight is against Randy, sometime in the summer , - thats what Dana said!  Dana's comment on Wandi/Hendo  -qoute -   "......thats cause people in Pride are fucking retarded.........fucking geniuses..."   ;D ;D ;D

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1108

I see a Werdum/Crocop match in the near future.  I hope the "friends, or pact" doesn't come into play. 
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Post by: G on March 04, 2007, 06:08:23 PM
I see a Werdum/Crocop match in the near future.  I hope the "friends, or pact" doesn't come into play. 
If we can trust Dana , Mirco/Randy will somewhere in UFC 71/72, I doubt it that we are going to see Mirco/Werdum before that, but you never know what Dana might come up with....wuldnt be surprised to see Silvia/Mirco before that.  Also according to Dana's words we can expect Rampage/ Lidell fight very soon, probably UFC 70/71.
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 04, 2007, 06:14:08 PM
If we can trust Dana , Mirco/Randy will somewhere in UFC 71/72, I doubt it that we are going to see Mirco/Werdum before that, but you never know what Dana might come up with....wuldnt be surprised to see Silvia/Mirco before that.  Also according to Dana's words we can expect Rampage/ Lidell fight very soon, probably UFC 70/71.

Mirko is scheduled to fight Gonzaga in England, Arlovski is fighting Werdum.  If Mirko and Werdum both win, (I am assuming they will), then Randy fights Mirko at 71, and if Mirko wins, he would defend against the number one contender.  I don't see Mir getting back into the mix, perhaps Hardonk, Vera will be gone, that would leave Werdum or a rematch with Heath.  If Zuffa signs Sergei, that would be a great fight.  Or perhaps a rematch with Aleks (if the rumors are true). 
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Post by: G on March 04, 2007, 07:27:27 PM
Mirko is scheduled to fight Gonzaga in England, Arlovski is fighting Werdum.  If Mirko and Werdum both win, (I am assuming they will), then Randy fights Mirko at 71, and if Mirko wins, he would defend against the number one contender.  I don't see Mir getting back into the mix, perhaps Hardonk, Vera will be gone, that would leave Werdum or a rematch with Heath.  If Zuffa signs Sergei, that would be a great fight.  Or perhaps a rematch with Aleks (if the rumors are true). 

 ....one thing I know for sure is that the UFC HW division is getting way more exciting than what it used to be ...with Mirko coming , Randy the new champ and  a few other possible Pride fighters coming ..there is a lot going on in the HW class. One person I want to see back in action is Monson, but his contract is done and I doubt it Dana would sign with him again...
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 04, 2007, 08:11:36 PM
I don't think we will see Monson again in the UFC.  Most TUFF newbs don't appreciate the intricacies of the ground, and he appears boring to them. 
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Post by: 20inch calves on March 05, 2007, 09:27:27 AM
i think monson will sign again. dana won't spend much money on him. i hope he gets another shot
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 05, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
i think monson will sign again. dana won't spend much money on him. i hope he gets another shot

If they do sign him, he will be an undercard fighter and gatekeeper for the heavyweight divison. 
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Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 05, 2007, 06:24:26 PM
Anybody think Arlovsky will get another title shot in the near future? What sort of scenarios do you guys see unfolding with him involved? Obviously, he's not on the level of Mirko by a long shot but I always thought Arlovsky had good striking and a respectable ground game to stay a consistent contender in the UFC.
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 05, 2007, 06:45:54 PM
Anybody think Arlovsky will get another title shot in the near future? What sort of scenarios do you guys see unfolding with him involved? Obviously, he's not on the level of Mirko by a long shot but I always thought Arlovsky had good striking and a respectable ground game to stay a consistent contender in the UFC.

Glass jaw, he will get beat by Werdum.  Very light on his feet for a big man, though. 
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Post by: Carmello on March 05, 2007, 06:57:30 PM
Randy's Striking has improved but he is no Crocop and I really hate saying that.  Whoever said CC is overrated will be eating their words soon enough although I will have my fingers crossed in Randy's favor.

WAR RANDY.... BITCHES!
That's why Crocop got owned by Randleman, and McDonald in K-1. He's good, but not great. Sure if u make your career off of throwing Haymakers, of course you're bound to catch a couple of good fighters and look good, but he lacks in other areas and those areas is what makes a great MMA fighter.
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Post by: 1Fast400 on March 05, 2007, 08:47:52 PM
Either way, dana is laughing his ass all the way to the PPV bank.
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Post by: leonp1981 on March 05, 2007, 08:56:44 PM
Either way, dana is laughing his ass all the way to the PPV bank.

I reckon the biggest difference for Randy facing Crocop will be the head kicks.  If Sylvia had tried putting a few out there, it would have kept Randy guessing and maybe stopped Sylvia from taking so many combo's.  He just didn't do enough to keep Randy at arms length, and was unwilling to take any risks for fear of being caught.
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 05, 2007, 09:45:30 PM
That's why Crocop got owned by Randleman, and McDonald in K-1. He's good, but not great. Sure if u make your career off of throwing Haymakers, of course you're bound to catch a couple of good fighters and look good, but he lacks in other areas and those areas is what makes a great MMA fighter.

Please don't tell me you are comparing Michael McDonald to Randy Couture.  Randleman caught Mirko, period.  Did you see what happened in the rematch?  Man, I love Randy just like the next guy, and I want him to win, but I am honestly assesing the situation, Mirko is great at beating grapplers.  PERIOD.  His recent losses were to people who kept it on the feet.  Josh Barnett destroyed Randy, and Mirko beat him twice, convincingly.
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 06, 2007, 12:25:53 AM
Please don't tell me you are comparing Michael McDonald to Randy Couture.  Randleman caught Mirko, period.  Did you see what happened in the rematch?  Man, I love Randy just like the next guy, and I want him to win, but I am honestly assesing the situation, Mirko is great at beating grapplers.  PERIOD.  His recent losses were to people who kept it on the feet.  Josh Barnett destroyed Randy, and Mirko beat him twice, convincingly.

That guillotine choke in the rematch was SIIIICK!!! from what I remember Randleman spit up some blood on Mirko's chest.
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Post by: G on March 06, 2007, 09:07:51 AM
.  Josh Barnett destroyed Randy, and Mirko beat him twice, convincingly.

....but from this doesnt follow that Mirko will destroy Randy. I dont know if you remember but Randy was dominating Josh during most of the fight untill Josh reversed him and finished him in a minute, and also dont forget that Josh was outweighing Randy by 30 -35 lbs.

 
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 06, 2007, 10:53:57 AM
....but from this doesnt follow that Mirko will destroy Randy. I dont know if you remember but Randy was dominating Josh during most of the fight untill Josh reversed him and finished him in a minute, and also dont forget that Josh was outweighing Randy by 30 -35 lbs.

 

Moreso that Randy doesn't do well within guard.  He is good at top game, and is content to sit in guard and drop elbows, punches.  He doesn't do as well when he has a bigger/stronger man in his guard.  Did you forget about the Ricco fight as well.  You may attribute it to size, but I attribute it to technique.  Ricco did well in ADCC, and is a BJJ black belt.  Barnett, who "reversed" Randy slapped on a nasty kneebar on Big Nog in the open weight GP at the end of the round, and has a very tricky game.  Mirko has shown his GNP is very underrated, if Randy ends up on his back, he may be in trouble. 
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Post by: Faust on March 06, 2007, 11:18:24 AM
That's why Crocop got owned by Randleman, and McDonald in K-1. He's good, but not great. Sure if u make your career off of throwing Haymakers, of course you're bound to catch a couple of good fighters and look good, but he lacks in other areas and those areas is what makes a great MMA fighter.
Lol.

Ok, Crocop is not a great fighter.

Any more gems of wisdom you want to share?
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Post by: G on March 06, 2007, 11:28:14 AM
Moreso that Randy doesn't do well within guard.  He is good at top game, and is content to sit in guard and drop elbows, punches.  He doesn't do as well when he has a bigger/stronger man in his guard.  Did you forget about the Ricco fight as well.  You may attribute it to size, but I attribute it to technique.  Ricco did well in ADCC, and is a BJJ black belt.  Barnett, who "reversed" Randy slapped on a nasty kneebar on Big Nog in the open weight GP at the end of the round, and has a very tricky game.  Mirko has shown his GNP is very underrated, if Randy ends up on his back, he may be in trouble. 

 I actually attribute it both to size and strength, cause if Josh was Randy's size or smaller it would've been a different end....and i didnt forget about Ricco ..he is actually one of my favorite HW fighters .....watched an interview with him last year right after his fight against Ron H2O , he was talking how much he wants to get back in UFC and get the belt from Silvia and so on....but apparently Dana didn't seem to think so.....Ricco was also robbed against Nog....I dont think there is a single sane person in the world who thinks that Nog won the fight...it was ridiculous....   
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Post by: americanbulldog on March 06, 2007, 11:42:45 AM
I actually attribute it both to size and strength, cause if Josh was Randy's size or smaller it would've been a different end....and i didnt forget about Ricco ..he is actually one of my favorite HW fighters .....watched an interview with him last year right after his fight against Ron H2O , he was talking how much he wants to get back in UFC and get the belt from Silvia and so on....but apparently Dana didn't seem to think so.....Ricco was also robbed against Nog....I dont think there is a single sane person in the world who thinks that Nog won the fight...it was ridiculous....   

If you are a Ricco fan, you must know how slick his game is (most JJ Machado students are).  It is more leveraged and angles based than strength/athleticism.  If anything, Randy relies more on athleticism than either Josh, or Ricco, so again, I agree to disagree with you.  And yes, Ricco was robbed against Nog.  DSEs champa against Zuffa's former champ.  Slap on a gi and join a good BJJ school.  I get swept, reversed consistently by people I outweigh by 35-50 lbs because of technique, setup, and leverage. 
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Post by: G on March 06, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
If you are a Ricco fan, you must know how slick his game is (most JJ Machado students are).  It is more leveraged and angles based than strength/athleticism.  If anything, Randy relies more on athleticism than either Josh, or Ricco, so again, I agree to disagree with you.  And yes, Ricco was robbed against Nog.  DSEs champa against Zuffa's former champ.  Slap on a gi and join a good BJJ school.  I get swept, reversed consistently by people I outweigh by 35-50 lbs because of technique, setup, and leverage. 

  Gi..?Never ...It s a totally different game..if anyone wants to train for mma should never put on  gi  in training. Right after college when i was done with wrestling I wanted to get into mma  ....there were 4-5 different Gracie's schools in the area where I live I none of them had no gi classes so i kept  loking until i found what i was looking for ...of coure that's my opinion...many people would disagree with me , probably you as a grcie boy will do too.....
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Post by: smoothasf on March 06, 2007, 12:31:40 PM
I hate it when people assume that just because a fighter lost to one who was beaten by another means they cant win, different styles are made to fight certain fighters, mirko can beat randy stand up no problem period. can randy take mirko to the ground? everytime yes he could pull king kong to the floor. fact is until we see exactly where each fighter wants to take the fight you cant make an accurate assumption on who will win at this level of fighter.
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Post by: G on March 06, 2007, 12:33:57 PM
I hate it when people assume that just because a fighter lost to one who was beaten by another means they cant win, different styles are made to fight certain fighters, mirko can beat randy stand up no problem period. can randy take mirko to the ground? everytime yes he could pull king kong to the floor. fact is until we see exactly where each fighter wants to take the fight you cant make an accurate assumption on who will win at this level of fighter.


..there ya go....end of story 8)
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carmello on March 06, 2007, 02:35:32 PM
Please don't tell me you are comparing Michael McDonald to Randy Couture.  Randleman caught Mirko, period.  Did you see what happened in the rematch?  Man, I love Randy just like the next guy, and I want him to win, but I am honestly assesing the situation, Mirko is great at beating grapplers.  PERIOD.  His recent losses were to people who kept it on the feet.  Josh Barnett destroyed Randy, and Mirko beat him twice, convincingly.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Randy can, or will beat Crocop. I think it's impressive how Randy came out with a tight game plan against Silvia, and applied it, but the chemistry between CC and Randy is bad for Randy, unless he learns how to defend and overtake CC on the ground. Which I believe he is capable of doing, and learning. He's a legend and it wont be a blowout like everyone says, but CC is still a big favorite to win IMO.
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 06, 2007, 03:32:26 PM
  Gi..?Never ...It s a totally different game..if anyone wants to train for mma should never put on  gi  in training. Right after college when i was done with wrestling I wanted to get into mma  ....there were 4-5 different Gracie's schools in the area where I live I none of them had no gi classes so i kept  loking until i found what i was looking for ...of coure that's my opinion...many people would disagree with me , probably you as a grcie boy will do too.....

Our school, which is a Relson Gracie affiliate does Gi and nogi.  Training in the gi makes you more aware of many submissions that are possible, and their defenses.  I have competed only in nogi competitions, and have won on submission in two of my last three matches.  I wouldn't have been aware of one of them had I not trained in the gi.  BTW, Relson Gracies teams have done the best in sub grappling in Hawaii for some time now. 
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 06, 2007, 03:34:41 PM
I hate it when people assume that just because a fighter lost to one who was beaten by another means they cant win, different styles are made to fight certain fighters, mirko can beat randy stand up no problem period. can randy take mirko to the ground? everytime yes he could pull king kong to the floor. fact is until we see exactly where each fighter wants to take the fight you cant make an accurate assumption on who will win at this level of fighter.


Mirko's takedown defense is much better than Tim's.  Fujita, Coleman, Randleman, had a tough time taking CC down.  Most can't keep him there, particularly with stand ups the UFC seems to prefer.  Just because Randy took Tim down, you shouldn't ASS-UME that he will do the same to Mirko.  And for the record, I want Randy to win.  Remember, Randy had a tough time taking Chuck to the ground in fights two and three.  Mirko has better standup, movement, and just as good a takedown defense.  Did I mention he has power in his hands and feet? 
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on March 06, 2007, 04:45:29 PM
Awful lot of TUF retards in this thread who don't know shit. Tell me how Randy winning a fight against an overrated Sylvia equates to CC being overrated and a bad striker? Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 06, 2007, 04:52:20 PM
Awful lot of TUF retards in this thread who don't know shit. Tell me how Randy winning a fight against an overrated Sylvia equates to CC being overrated and a bad striker? Unbelievable.

Precisely what I was thinking....
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 07, 2007, 07:44:03 AM
Awful lot of TUF retards in this thread who don't know shit. Tell me how Randy winning a fight against an overrated Sylvia equates to CC being overrated and a bad striker? Unbelievable.

LOL, so true.
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: lilbg on March 08, 2007, 08:26:50 AM
Randy's striking has improved a lot but I dont think its anywhere near Crocop's level.  If you watch his fight against Silva he left him self open for leg kicks the whole time and I kept thinking Silva was going to see this but nope!  Crocop will win the fight.  Randy is my favorite fighter but you cant deny the facts... Crocop > Couture.... First round KO..... damnit....and I would love to eat my words on this one.
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: OKMike on March 09, 2007, 03:27:46 AM
Randy's striking has improved a lot but I dont think its anywhere near Crocop's level.  If you watch his fight against Silva he left him self open for leg kicks the whole time and I kept thinking Silva was going to see this but nope!  Crocop will win the fight.  Randy is my favorite fighter but you cant deny the facts... Crocop > Couture.... First round KO..... damnit....and I would love to eat my words on this one.

There is a reason Tim Sylvia did not kick much.  It would only make it easier for Randy to take him down, which he did do after one kick.
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 09, 2007, 10:58:16 AM
Mirko won't kick until he closes the right eye of Randy with his nasty cross/hook combo like he did to Wandy.  Plus Mirko delivers fantastic low line kicks that are hard to pick up.  BTW, how did Mirko stop a GOLD medal winning Judoka recently?  Was Yoshida able to grab any one of those kicks and take Mirko down?  Just so there is no confusion:

Mirko's striking>Tim's striking.
Michael McDonald's striking>Randy's striking
Mirko's TD defense>Tim.
Mirko's athleticism>Tim. 
Mirko>Chuck

Mirko has made a career of beating grappling  based figthers, not strikers. 

Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on March 09, 2007, 12:39:24 PM
Mirko won't kick until he closes the right eye of Randy with his nasty cross/hook combo like he did to Wandy.  Plus Mirko delivers fantastic low line kicks that are hard to pick up.  BTW, how did Mirko stop a GOLD medal winning Judoka recently?  Was Yoshida able to grab any one of those kicks and take Mirko down?  Just so there is no confusion:

Mirko's striking>Tim's striking.
Michael McDonald's striking>Randy's striking
Mirko's TD defense>Tim.
Mirko's athleticism>Tim. 
Mirko>Chuck

Mirko has made a career of beating grappling  based figthers, not strikers. 



That last part with the "Mirko > Sylvia" stuff translates to Chuck also. And we saw what happened with Chuck and Randy. Fucking TUF retards, watch some of CroCop's fights.   ::)
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 09, 2007, 04:08:41 PM
The TUF force is strong here. 
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on March 09, 2007, 04:59:55 PM
The TUF force is strong here. 

And there are people claiming it's not warranted when I say it.  :o
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dootle on March 09, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
i can not see him lasting very long with crocop..randy will get ko'd if he fights him..i do want to give randy props for the way he demolished silvia and i think that was the best randy we've ever seen! i love randy,he is a great guy and fighter,but he will not be able to handle crocop..in fact,crocop will retire randy via a brutal ko..
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on March 09, 2007, 09:32:04 PM
I don't think Cro Cop is overrated at all but his OWGP win was overrated

he fought 3 non heavyweights in minowa (what was he thinking entering the owgp :o) Yoshida and Wandy

then he beat a tired barnett

barnett had to go through aleks, hunt, and noguira to make it to the finals

cro cop defintly had an easy road to the finals

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Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MindSpin on March 10, 2007, 07:19:06 AM
i can not see him lasting very long with crocop..randy will get ko'd if he fights him..i do want to give randy props for the way he demolished silvia and i think that was the best randy we've ever seen! i love randy,he is a great guy and fighter,but he will not be able to handle crocop..in fact,crocop will retire randy via a brutal ko..

I'd like to see cro cop up against Silvia before they put him in front of randy.  He would take whatever silvia had left and completly demolish him...
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on March 10, 2007, 08:55:56 AM
Precisely what I was thinking....

Who cares what you think old man... Ha ha how are things over on the island buddy...... How've you been, tha family doing alright ( I hope) when you going to vegas next...
Title: Re: Fuck yeah!!! Randy all the way baby!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on March 10, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
Who cares what you think old man... Ha ha how are things over on the island buddy...... How've you been, tha family doing alright ( I hope) when you going to vegas next...

Busted up my shoulder pretty bad when it got caught in someones belt.  I have been out for two weeks from training, on anti inflamatory drugs, doing PT.  Will be in LV in May for another convention.