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Gus was better than Phil yesterday. Accept it.
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Gus was better than Phil yesterday. Accept it.
exactly right.
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Phil was too light to fight
Gustavo's waist is becoming a little on the huge side tho
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gus was a bit bigger than hype heath..hype heath looked like a kid next to badell
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Gus was better than Phil yesterday. Accept it.
No.
You're even comparing that flaccid sack of menudo to a physique that would have inspired the phrase "ebony mountain of muscle" if it wasn't already in widespread use?
You're high.
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What a stupid photo comparison.JUST STUPID.
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What a stupid photo comparison.JUST STUPID.
It was the worst picture of Badell I could find.
It suited my purpose. :)
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What a stupid photo comparison.JUST STUPID.
exactly, i love how people who try to get you to like their guy always post the worst picture of someone else and the absolute best picture of their favorite, epic lack of objectivity.
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Forget about this over hyped BBer.
The only thing i can accept is his condtion. His proportion is good but not amazing like Flex wheeler.And needless to say,his mass is really nothing.
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It was the worst picture of Badell I could find.
It suited my purpose. :)
gus was huge hype heath was small
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exactly, i love how people who try to get you to like their guy always post the worst picture of someone else and the absolute best picture of their favorite, epic lack of objectivity.
U bl;ind?????????? but I expect that from u..if u are incapable to see why heath was better
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gus was huge hype heath was small
BBing is more than just being big, duh? Heath was more conditioned and had better seperation
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BBing is more than just being big, duh? Heath was more conditioned and had better seperation
Gustavo
Mass--Good
Shape--so so
Muscle tone--good
Condition--good
Heath
Mass--Bad
Shape--good
Muscle tone--so so
Condition--good
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Heath is very light for someone his height he needs more size , Gustavo was big and had pretty damn good conditioning .
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Gustavo
Mass--Good
Shape--so so
Muscle tone--good
Condition--good
Heath
Mass--Bad
Shape--good
Muscle tone--so so
Condition--good
Gee, you must be a judge. A little pointer for you, keep your day job!
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Gustavo looked like block of shit!!
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Gee, you must be a judge. A little pointer for you, keep your day job!
I was a judge once in small local contest(No kidding).
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once (No kidding).
I believe it :-X!
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I believe it :-X!
Oh thanx >:(
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Gustavo looked better, end of story.
Heath did amazing for his first MAJOR show........To place 5th at the arnold first time out, especially with this line-up. He did great!
Props to Phil for staying true to himself and not trying to play the size game. Give him some time he hasnt even come close to his prime yet.
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gus has a ton of mass
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Gustavo looked better, end of story.
Heath did amazing for his first MAJOR show........To place 5th at the arnold first time out, especially with this line-up. He did great!
Props to Phil for staying true to himself and not trying to play the size game. Give him some time he hasnt even come close to his prime yet.
But if he dont try to do the size game, he will be like Darrem Charles for sure. NEVER EVER BE IN TOP 6 OF O.
I think he surely need to gain some serious mass. He is too skinny to be a top dog.
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Fo sho!
He just needs to keep that waist down, and try to add a few ( no more than 7-10) lbs of quality muscle per year for the next 2 or 3 years, and by 2010 he's Mr.O...........
that is of course unless someone else comes along.
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From previous post....
Shawn and Priest in the past have said the judges have their minds made up based on previous showings. A couple of guys will get robbed if they are thinking Heath. I'm sure he looks good with the xtra 10lbs of muscle. I guess some guys have seen him already but bbers always look super standing alone aka Dennis James.
Lift was looking at Phil in a Denver gym standing alone and remembering him beating the #15 or so bber in the world Charles.
1. Phil will good in the next 3-5 years but he isnt the next Wheeler.
2. Responds good to gear like a young Ray
Good for the judges. The mature muscle isnt there yet. 4-5 yrs isnt enough for him to knock off the top guys at 85-90%. Good but not a young Flex who knocked off Lee L. in his rookie yr.
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Gustavo
Mass--Good
Shape--so so
Muscle tone--good
Condition--good
Heath
Mass--Bad
Shape--good
Muscle tone--so so
Condition--good
Muscle tone? LOL This isn't men's fitness
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At first looking at the prejudging, I was thinking total bullshit how they put badell over heath. But I got a look at the night show shots, and as much as I don't care for badell, he did get signifigantly better condition wise for the night showing... maybe even a little better than heath, as heath lost a little crispness in the night show. So it could have gone either way in my opinion... Heath beat the hell out of gustavo in the prejudging, gustavo edged heath slightly in the night show... in the end, they will always give it to the veteran, which in this case was badell.
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hyped didn't live up to the expectation
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phil is so young.... he'll be around for awhile. Sooner than later he will be a serious serious threat. But i still think richard jones is better
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I don't get it either. :(
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No Calf`s no placing, at least Badell had some.
High calf`s are an imperfection to a complete physique.
Everyone looks like they are on stilts in the top 4.
In-complete physique.
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show Badell and heath from the back and its easy to see why he beat him...Badell is a freak...
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Phil was too light to fight
Gustavo's waist is becoming a little on the huge side tho
It was actually smaller than in the past..
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Muscle tone? LOL This isn't men's fitness
You dont understand.
For example,
Yates and Flex,
Flex alway posses better muscle tone than Yates,even if yates is in better condition than Flex.
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Have never liked Gustavo's physique, nor can I see what's so great about it. I appreciate a variety of physiques, from mass monsters to tiny waisted aesthetes, and I just can't figure him out.
What sets him apart from other competitors at his level? What makes him special?
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gus was a bit bigger than hype heath..hype heath looked like a kid next to badell
for once you are right on point....rat eater
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Phil was too light to fight
Gustavo's waist is becoming a little on the huge side tho
he is working on the classic H taper
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Phil looked like an 8th grader playing in college
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Have never liked Gustavo's physique, nor can I see what's so great about it. I appreciate a variety of physiques, from mass monsters to tiny waisted aesthetes, and I just can't figure him out.
What sets him apart from other competitors at his level? What makes him special?
he has been training using a secret weapon called Gakic and Anator P..wait until he starts stacking goat whey...limitless
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Phil looked like an 8th grader playing in college
Yeah he def looked small up there even next to Dex but he did have the 2nd best set of calves in the top 6. If his conditioning was better he could have moved up a spot.
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he has been training using a secret weapon called Gakic and Anator P..wait until he starts stacking goat whey...limitless
MuscleTech doesn't have a goat whey, he will have Leukic and Creakic though so watch out come Olympia time!!!
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Forget about this over hyped BBer.
The only thing i can accept is his condtion. His proportion is good but not amazing like Flex wheeler.And needless to say,his mass is really nothing.
Well said... Heath can not be compared to Badell, not enough mass. He would be competitive in the 80's though...
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Here's the thing:
SOMEONE must have said something to someone on the judging panel.
When the prejudging got started and was well under way it was clear to EVERYONE that Heath, Freeman, Dexter and Victor were the top 4. They were called out against each other a number of times. Badell was no where to be seen. Badell was finally called out but with a group of BB's who were clearly not in the top 5 (but likely the numbers 6-12 range). And when he was called out with that group, he wasn't even the best there.
THEN, all of a sudden, Badell was called out with the top group. Suddenly, he's a top contender. it was out of nowhere. They'd already seen him a number of times and yet hadn't put him with that top group. Then suddenly they change their minds?
Hmmm...
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THEN, all of a sudden, Badell was called out with the top group. Suddenly, he's a top contender. it was out of nowhere. They'd already seen him a number of times and yet hadn't put him with that top group. Then suddenly they change their minds?
Hmmm...
240?
;D
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Here's the thing:
SOMEONE must have said something to someone on the judging panel.
When the prejudging got started and was well under way it was clear to EVERYONE that Heath, Freeman, Dexter and Victor were the top 4. They were called out against each other a number of times. Badell was no where to be seen. Badell was finally called out but with a group of BB's who were clearly not in the top 5 (but likely the numbers 6-12 range). And when he was called out with that group, he wasn't even the best there.
THEN, all of a sudden, Badell was called out with the top group. Suddenly, he's a top contender. it was out of nowhere. They'd already seen him a number of times and yet hadn't put him with that top group. Then suddenly they change their minds?
Hmmm...
honestly kind of refreshing...Badell had him beat and they fixed it to show that...
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IS PHIL ABOUT 180 ?
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hyped didn't live up to the expectation
I said this would happen