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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: donrhummy on March 05, 2007, 02:38:13 PM
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What happened with Phil heath? Was he as big as when you saw him or did he screw up his dieting? (If so, how'd he lose "10 pounds" of muscle in such a short time? If he was the same size as when you saw him, then I'm sorry but you were wrong, he wasn't 10 pounds heavier.
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It's called "HYPE"!
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Lift Studios?
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What happened with Phil heath? Was he as big as when you saw him or did he screw up his dieting? (If so, how'd he lose "10 pounds" of muscle in such a short time? If he was the same size as when you saw him, then I'm sorry but you were wrong, he wasn't 10 pounds heavier.
You can hear all about it on his next DVD.
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You can hear all about it on his next DVD.
That's lame. You can't even say, "yes, he was bigger than that when I saw him" or "No, he looked exactly like that." ?
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That's lame. You can't even say, "yes, he was bigger than that when I saw him" or "No, he looked exactly like that." ?
What difference does it make? All that matters is what any given competitor looks like when they are on stage that day.
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Phil Heath looked great three days out and was extremely impressive. Even on stage, most of us agreed that he has the best symmetry and excellent conditioning of the group. However, when you see the pictures, Phil looked smaller than the other competitors and perhaps not as muscular. Although many people would love to have his physique, and he looked great, some of the judges said he needed perhaps a few more pounds on him and he will have his day at the Arnold.
As Ronnie Coleman predicted before the show, Phil's time in not now to make the top three, but it will be soon. Remember, Phil is young, under 30, and many of the stars who are at the top are over 33, when the muscle mature and are thicker.
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It's called "HYPE"!
Why do you say that?
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Why do you say that?
He's speaking from personal experience ;D
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THE GUY'S BEEN WORKING OUT FOR A COUPLE FUCKING YEARS, CUT HIM SOME SLACK. He's TOP FIVE at the arnold with less than 5 years of serious training! FUck chill out, heath is awesome and will be a major force like dex in a year or two. Hype my ass.
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THE GUY'S BEEN WORKING OUT FOR A COUPLE FUCKING YEARS, CUT HIM SOME SLACK. He's TOP FIVE at the arnold with less than 5 years of serious training! FUck chill out, heath is awesome and will be a major force like dex in a year or two. Hype my ass.
well said. Phil is the future 8)
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Why do you say that?
'Cause that's exactly what it was. You don't get it?
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THE GUY'S BEEN WORKING OUT FOR A COUPLE FUCKING YEARS, CUT HIM SOME SLACK. He's TOP FIVE at the arnold with less than 5 years of serious training! FUck chill out, heath is awesome and will be a major force like dex in a year or two. Hype my ass.
unless he magically widens his shoulders he will always have a hard time against the big boys
yes, he will always beat the darrem charles of the world
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It's called "HYPE"!
Wow John Sherman in da house!!!!!
You dont compete anymore?
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Phil Heath looked great three days out and was extremely impressive. Even on stage, most of us agreed that he has the best symmetry and excellent conditioning of the group. However, when you see the pictures, Phil looked smaller than the other competitors and perhaps not as muscular. Although many people would love to have his physique, and he looked great, some of the judges said he needed perhaps a few more pounds on him and he will have his day at the Arnold.
As Ronnie Coleman predicted before the show, Phil's time in not now to make the top three, but it will be soon. Remember, Phil is young, under 30, and many of the stars who are at the top are over 33, when the muscle mature and are thicker.
Ron, you dont need to defend Lift. Lift was saying that Heath could get AC title last week. Last week is NOT future.
Its called HYPE. I think Phil is really good BBer. No ofence to him. But LIft Studio, you dont have eyes to judge bbing.
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Why do you say that?
Lift kept saying for months that Phil didn't even look like the same guy as last year and that his improvements would all blow our minds.
he kept talking like Phil was the next comming of Jesus.
I am a big fan of Phil, he looked incredible and deserved 4th in my opinion.
But Lift Studio WAY over-hyped him
let him do his thing he is good enough and he doesn't need anyone to make false claims about him
that's what it mean when we say: hype
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lift needs to back off, let the DVD sell itself, lower the HYPErbole about Phil and let Phil be Phil.
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THE GUY'S BEEN WORKING OUT FOR A COUPLE FUCKING YEARS, CUT HIM SOME SLACK. He's TOP FIVE at the arnold with less than 5 years of serious training! FUck chill out, heath is awesome and will be a major force like dex in a year or two. Hype my ass.
Yup!
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Phil had the best genetics up there....the guy does like 1/3 the drugs as the rest of the guys that beat him...he doesnt beat woman or deal drugs like the guys above him either....nor did it take him 6-7 as a pro to crack top five at the ASC.
The cream always rises to the top. Phil will beat all these guys soon enough.
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Phil had the best genetics up there....the guy does like 1/3 the drugs as the rest of the guys that beat him...
How do you know this?
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lift needs to back off, let the DVD sell itself, lower the HYPErbole about Phil and let Phil be Phil.
are you saying that LIft needs to get his tongue from out of Phil's ass?
....not happening, he keeps phil's ass spotless
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Me and Lift battle it out on the boards and in person. However I will have to say something. In this industry you must have a niche - you must have a product too sell, I do not think ANYONE is running out to purchase 100's of dollars of METRX because TheGIFT is an athlete however when a Stale lineup of Athletes are ALWAYS winning and no one else is allowed into the line a breath of fresh air is good.
Phil with 2 impressive wins- a great cover of FLex and other people besides Lift saying he is the future = HYPE. I asked to ease up on this however it fell on deaf ears. Indefense of LIFT - if you - THIS MEANS YOU .... If you have a DVD i think LIFT would be the person you would want promoting it , because he did his job and Phil had a long line and sold a good deal of product.So it is only up to Phil how he response to this - Shawn Ray has NEVER won the O - but he is a unstoppable product for 2 decades - that is what Phil should be working on and I think LIFT - knows that ....Another TRUE STORY - Weather you like it or not ....
SPLIT THE CLASSES OR THE XMAN MAN WILL KEEP KICKING ASSES!
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How do you know this?
I know a top national competitor that knows Phil. he says that phil uses very little compared to the rest of the guys
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I know a top national competitor that knows Phil. he says that phil uses very little compared to the rest of the guys
everyone that knows any bodybuilder says that same thing
with that said, as his receptors adjust he will have to use and ever increasing amount to just to keep his current state. And ofcourse upping the dosage doesn't always product good thigns.
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Rocco Jones is the Next One.
-Hedge
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everyone that knows any bodybuilder says that same thing
with that said, as his receptors adjust he will have to use and ever increasing amount to just to keep his current state. And ofcourse upping the dosage doesn't always product good thigns.
The guy who told me is a bodybuilder.. not an over zealous fan
Phil, right now, uses little (Im not talking about the future im talking about the present)
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I can imagine that Heath doesnt use as much as some of the other guys.Hes pretty new to the IFBB and his fantastic Genetics will probably allow him to respond to the lower doses.Then again,who knows...the guy could be hammering the sauce!
Nothing wrong with some hype coming up to a contest....but LIFT did go a little bit overboard.Too much hype put a lot of pressure on the althete IMO
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i have said several times now i think phil could have won the whole thing judging by the pics. i don't see where everyone says he is so much smaller. i truely believe he is very close to dex muscular wise because of his small waist (since dexs gut was sticking out) and joints...its and illusion.
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I can imagine that Heath doesnt use as much as some of the other guys.Hes pretty new to the IFBB and his fantastic Genetics will probably allow him to respond to the lower doses.Then again,who knows...the guy could be hammering the sauce!
Nothing wrong with some hype coming up to a contest....but LIFT did go a little bit overboard.Too much hype put a lot of pressure on the althete IMO
You guys said he was all hype when I posted his preview shots before Jr. Nationals, said he was all hype before USAs, and the Colorado. The only difference was this time more people then me chimed in with the "hype".
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I know a top national competitor that knows Phil. he says that phil uses very little compared to the rest of the guys
Well, I know a guy whose girlfriend's sister's boyfriend's brother is the dentist of a top IFBB pro and he says he's seen Phil use 63.4% of what the other guys use.
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You guys said he was all hype when I posted his preview shots before Jr. Nationals, said he was all hype before USAs, and the Colorado. The only difference was this time more people then me chimed in with the "hype".
Let them Vent LIFT- They are not making sense anyways - With a win or close lost too Melvin Anthony - Phil will be right back in the Hunt for the Mister O - If you split the classes - I can see Phil being Mr. O ..... He battled it out with the top 3-10 in the world and landed in 7th place < XMAN 's former place - sorry I had too say it > He needs too defeat Melvin and then he can move forward with some serious armour.
Phil is the Real Deal and does not need much - Judges are looking at smaller , sleek and cleaner bodies - Gustavo , Jay and Ronnie are the only ones left and Believe me they will be looking in ..Vic, XMAN , Anthony and Heath will bring it and they need to stay close and promote.
So let them vent - Bellies are a thing of past , Wide waist and poor Posing and Bad Attitudes .... We have something to actually be proud of .....
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You guys said he was all hype when I posted his preview shots before Jr. Nationals, said he was all hype before USAs, and the Colorado. The only difference was this time more people then me chimed in with the "hype".
I never said he was all hype.I actually think he has the tools to win the Big O.I just thought you went a little overboard with the hype before the AC.Not busting your balls Lift.I know you are tight with Heath and just want him to do well :)
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You guys said he was all hype when I posted his preview shots before Jr. Nationals, said he was all hype before USAs, and the Colorado. The only difference was this time more people then me chimed in with the "hype".
I never said I was all hype, tho I remember 240 saying that he wouldn't turn pro cause his legs are 3 years behind his upper body ;D
anyway he isn't hype, you OVER-HYPE him.
he doesn't need it. everybody will always be curious to see what he looks like at any contest he will enter so you don't need to say things like: " Phil looks nothing like last year, he is incredible you will see!!!!! his improvements will blow your mind ! blablabla....
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I never said I was all hype, tho I remember 240 saying that he wouldn't turn pro cause his legs are 3 years behind his upper body ;D
anyway he isn't hype, you OVER-HYPE him.
he doesn't need it. everybody will always be curious to see what he looks like at any contest he will enter so you don't need to say things like: " Phil looks nothing like last year, he is incredible you will see!!!!! his improvements will blow your mind ! blablabla....
I agree in part with what you're saying. When you see the photos of him in FLEX magazine you'll see what I was talking about in regards to how he looked when they shot him in the gym.
It's all good. Phil can handle his own and you won't hear me over-hyping him as you put it. Let the cards fall as they may and the best man will prevail on any given day.
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Phil Heath looked great three days out and was extremely impressive. Even on stage, most of us agreed that he has the best symmetry and excellent conditioning of the group. However, when you see the pictures, Phil looked smaller than the other competitors and perhaps not as muscular. Although many people would love to have his physique, and he looked great, some of the judges said he needed perhaps a few more pounds on him and he will have his day at the Arnold.
As Ronnie Coleman predicted before the show, Phil's time in not now to make the top three, but it will be soon. Remember, Phil is young, under 30, and many of the stars who are at the top are over 33, when the muscle mature and are thicker.
your kidding about best symmetry i hope ::)
when your arms are as big as your legs and your back is the size of a smurfs , im not getting the great symmetry part!