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Whatever can be said of their beliefs, the 9/11 hijackers were brave enough to give their lives for them.
You on the other hand - while happily cheering on the slaughter from the sidelines - are willing to risk nothing more than a Repetitive Stress Injury from your keyboard.
I respect them a whole lot more than I respect you. ::)
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9/11 terrorists 'brave' and 'respected' by this clown. Does anyone need any further information on why he shouldn't be listened to in any debate here from now on?
Thanks, Ribo, you've done more harm to yourself here than I ever could.
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Why don't you post one of your quotes stating that you want US Soldiers to die.
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Why don't you post one of your quotes stating that you want US Soldiers to die.
Because I've never said that.
I've said I want the US to lose the Iraq war - preferably by our declaring defeat and immediately withdrawing.
Our friendly neighborhood Bruce took it from there. :)
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
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Because I've never said that.
I've said I want the US to lose the Iraq war - preferably by our declaring defeat and immediately withdrawing.
Our friendly neighborhood Bruce took it from there. :)
Yes, I know and I tried to make that point but apparently there's no getting around the fact that you actually want US soldiers dead. ::)
BTW, need you point out that you were actually pointing out that you don't respect bruce when you said you respect the terrorists more than you respect bruce? Or is that obvious?
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
The 9/11 hijackers weren't terrorists because they killed themselves. They were terrorists because they killed 3,000 innocent civilians to advance their agenda.
Of course, we've killed at least 57,000 innocent civilians to advance our agenda.
But we're Americans. So we're not terrorists.
Hope this helps.
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BTW, need you point out that you were actually pointing out that you don't respect bruce when you said you respect the terrorists more than you respect bruce? Or is that obvious?
This thread owes its admittedly sorry existence to Bruce speculating in another thread how embarrassed I must be to have said something as "silly" as my comments on the hijackers. Knowing how fearless he's been in his quest for truth, I thought he deserved to have this evidence to the contrary.
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Yes, I know and I tried to make that point but apparently there's no getting around the fact that you actually want US soldiers dead. ::)
BTW, need you point out that you were actually pointing out that you don't respect bruce when you said you respect the terrorists more than you respect bruce? Or is that obvious?
That's a very sensible post. Why smear the board with such filth if it's actually me he has such a problem with?
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
tu, you're on a slippery slope with this post. Those terrorists killed innocent people by highjacking planes and strapping bombs to themselves. I don't agree with comparing them with soldiers that are fighting a war. Those 3,000 people weren't in a war they were going to work during a time of peace.
I don't see our soldiers attacking people at work during a time of peace.
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tu, you're on a slippery slope with this post. Those terrorists killed innocent people by highjacking planes and strapping bombs to themselves. I don't agree with comparing them with soldiers that are fighting a war. Those 3,000 people weren't in a war they were going to work during a time of peace.
I don't see our soldiers attacking people at work during a time of peace.
Precisely. You, I and others may disagree with one another on the ideological manner in which this coalition arranges itself and the details within America’s foreign policy are enacted. However, to belittle the lives of those lost in such barbaric acts by supporting the terrorists that committed them, this moron must be condemned and disregarded as a fool by all on this site that enjoy serious debate.
You and I have had our serious disagreements and petty debates, but I'm glad to know we're in agreement that Ribonucleic is devoid of any meaningful participation here because of his outlandish statements.
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tu, you're on a slippery slope with this post. Those terrorists killed innocent people by highjacking planes and strapping bombs to themselves. I don't agree with comparing them with soldiers that are fighting a war. Those 3,000 people weren't in a war they were going to work during a time of peace.
I don't see our soldiers attacking people at work during a time of peace.
I'm not talking about the 9/11 hijackers inherently... my post is very specific to the "terrorist" actions going on in Iraq at the present time.
I can not defend anything related to 9/11... HOWEVER, they have shown that the supposed 9/11 hijackers, are still alive and well in the world, so they must not have been the terrorists either.
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There is no comparison between someone like Bruce and terrorists..
Terrorists blow shit up while Bruce just nitpicks information and dodges.. huge difference.
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Why smear the board with such filth if it's actually me he has such a problem with?
Sorry, laughing boy. But you're the one who kept linking to my original post in completely unrelated contexts in the pitiful hope that it would somehow embarrass me. I hope we've now settled that, at least.
So while I contributed the original "filth", if you like, the "smearing" of it far and wide was your own handiwork.
But if you prefer, in the future, I can simply call you a fascist fucktard and leave it at that.
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There is no comparison between someone like Bruce and terrorists..
Terrorists blow shit up while Bruce just nitpicks information and dodges.. huge difference.
Bruce also stops posting when you bring a good point up which he has no retort for... Then he calls you a "fool" for no other apparent reason as well... Bruce also thinks that when you decide he's not worth the effort to respond to, that he's "won".
Very similar to the "Mission Accomplished" sign if you ask me.
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I'm not talking about the 9/11 hijackers inherently... my post is very specific to the "terrorist" actions going on in Iraq at the present time.
I can not defend anything related to 9/11... HOWEVER, they have shown that the supposed 9/11 hijackers, are still alive and well in the world, so they must not have been the terrorists either.
Sorry tu, I thought you were referring to the 9/11 terrorists. I apologize.
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Bruce also stops posting when you bring a good point up which he has no retort for... Then he calls you a "fool" for no other apparent reason as well... Bruce also thinks that when you decide he's not worth the effort to respond to, that he's "won".
Very similar to the "Mission Accomplished" sign if you ask me.
What's funny to me is that he simply ignores to connect the dots.. He wont accept the fact that the US sending chemical weapons to a iraqi university = sending weapons to saddam. I know he asks for facts, but there's no point in presenting anything to him as he'll just ignore the brunt of it and say that you have no point and that he's won. ::)
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Sorry tu, I thought you were referring to the 9/11 terrorists. I apologize.
In reading over the entire posting content... I can see how that was inferred... I apologize for not clarifying myself in the beginning.
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What's funny to me is that he simply ignores to connect the dots.. He wont accept the fact that the US sending chemical weapons to a iraqi university = sending weapons to saddam. I know he asks for facts, but there's no point in presenting anything to him as he'll just ignore the brunt of it and say that you have no point and that he's won. ::)
And this is the thanks he gets for exposing all those liberal fallacies for us...
No wonder he's always so cranky.
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Bruce also stops posting when you bring a good point up which he has no retort for... Then he calls you a "fool" for no other apparent reason as well... Bruce also thinks that when you decide he's not worth the effort to respond to, that he's "won".
Very similar to the "Mission Accomplished" sign if you ask me.
LOL, nice. Only without the flightsuit.
What does ribo call Bush, Chimpy McFlightsuit or something? LOL
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LOL, nice. Only without the flightsuit.
What does ribo call Bush, Chimpy McFlightsuit or something? LOL
Oh, you never know... he could walk around wearing a flight suit... Although I don't know if they come in "He-Man" size.
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he could walk around wearing a flight suit... Although I don't know if they come in "He-Man" size.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/413102473_8b1009f7da.jpg?v=0)
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Sorry, laughing boy. But you're the one who kept linking to my original post in completely unrelated contexts in the pitiful hope that it would somehow embarrass me. I hope we've now settled that, at least.
So while I contributed the original "filth", if you like, the "smearing" of it far and wide was your own handiwork.
But if you prefer, in the future, I can simply call you a fascist fucktard and leave it at that.
Ouch, this is really upsetting you, isn't it.
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I don't condone terrorism in any way shape or form, ...but let's face it, ...it does take courage to fly into a building.
If you had to, which would you prefer to do.... to steer a plane into a skyscraper,
or lob a laser guided missile at the building from far away while safely in the cockpit?
...not that I think those 'hijackers' knew they were going into the building.
But let's call it accurately.
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I don't condone terrorism in any way shape or form, ...but let's face it, ...it does take courage to fly into a building.
Let's face it, we already know you're capable of saying some pretty daft things. This is no exception.
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Let's face it, we already know you're capable of saying some pretty daft things. This is no exception.
FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!
my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! >:(
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I can not defend anything related to 9/11... HOWEVER, they have shown that the supposed 9/11 hijackers, are still alive and well in the world, so they must not have been the terrorists either.
I don't know why this doesn't matter to people.
There were ZERO arabs autopsied at the Pentagon. Zero Arab plane tickets. And they found the one magic passport. That was the only connection.
I can't believe people don't ask how these men got on the plane with no tickets.
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wow i didn't know this was going to be a double feature tonite!
8)
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I don't know why this doesn't matter to people.
There were ZERO arabs autopsied at the Pentagon. Zero Arab plane tickets. And they found the one magic passport. That was the only connection.
I can't believe people don't ask how these men got on the plane with no tickets.
"The how and the who is just scenery for the public. Keeps them guessing like some kind of parlor game. Prevents them from asking the most important question. Why?"
(http://www.jfk-online.com/sutherland.jpg)
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FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!
my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! >:(
Take a few seconds out to relax, okay? That can't be good for your health.
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FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!
my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! >:(
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If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.
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If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.
Don't say that - she'll have to purchase some carbon offsets.
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Those who murder innocent people and intentionally kill themselves in the process, dying a painless death, the result of which they believe is "heaven" with 70 (or whatever) virgins for themselves are evil cowards.
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If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.
Those who know... know.
Those who don't, ...wish they did. ;)
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Those who know... know.
Those who don't, ...wish they did. ;)
And in which rest home can we find those who did?
:D
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Those who murder innocent people and intentionally kill themselves in the process, dying a painless death, the result of which they believe is "heaven" with 70 (or whatever) virgins for themselves are evil cowards.
Amen to that.
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Of course, we've killed at least 57,000 innocent civilians to advance our agenda.
But we're Americans. So we're not terrorists.
Hope this helps.
No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.
But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.
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No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.
But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.
During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people. They were quite frustrated by the inability of their superior conventional forces to prevail against a fluid domestic resistance. And thanks to some material support from France, we made the war too costly for them to sustain at such a distance from the heart of their empire. They went home and we were free to get down to the business of killing Indians and making money.
I'm sure you're not getting it yet, so I'll draw you a diagram...
Then Now
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The British The Americans
The Americans The Iraqis
The French The Iranians
The Indians The Kurds
Now I know that you're never going to accept the premise that some dirty brown-skinned sand-ni@@er with a crazy name who speaks gibberish instead of English might be as passionate and sincere in wanting to get rid, by any means necessary, of the imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that.
But I will ask you to reflect on the central point in my little analogy...
The British lost.
We, too, are going to lose. It's an historical inevitability. [Of course, as Dr. Rice demonstrated recently, history is not the neocons strong suit.]
I'd like us to acknowledge that inevitability and end the war now before more people on both sides are killed for no fucking purpose.
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No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.
But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.
These nuts aren't just setting up shop in civilian areas and mosques, they are blowing up civilian areas and mosques.
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ribo,
mad props. that is an amazing post about the similiarities. France helping the colonists to hurt their neighboring UK was their way of keeping the UK weak enough to not move into their neck of the woods for british imperialism.
wow, this puts it all in perspective. I know you'll have the irrational neotaints here, calling you names because they don't understand American history.
Fascinating...
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
I know I have explained this before, but for all you knuckle heads like tu_holmes (great name by the way...snicker...) We are the biggest kid in the playground. You come here and fuck up our swingset, you are a terrorist, and until you can stop us we will come beat your ass and call ourselves the good guy...which will be forever
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I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start.
As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people." By and large the majority of the battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.
Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War.
As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow. So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit??? American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace. That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior. American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.
One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians? I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level. Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions. THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.
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I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start.
As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people." By and large the majority of the battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.
Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War.
As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow. So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit??? American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace. That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior. American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.
One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians? I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level. Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions. THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.
well said. nice post
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So American forces are raping women, killing children
<< A US Army soldier has pleaded guilty to raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and helping murder her and her family. James Barker agreed to the plea deal at the start of his court-martial in the US to avoid the death penalty... Specialist Barker is one of four US soldiers charged with murder... All four soldiers belong to the 2nd Brigade of the elite 101st Airborne Division. >>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6152118.stm
"Elite" is highlighted in anticipation of the inevitable whining about "a few bad apples". These 4 psychopaths were the gung-ho ones - "the best of the best".
But there's no need to quibble. If you send 100,000 19-year olds far from home, give them automatic weapons, require them to perform a hopeless mission as their buddies are blown up, and continually reinforce them to dehumanize "the enemy", this kind of thing is a mathematical inevitability.
And undoubtedly occurring 10 times for each accusation we hear about.
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I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start.
As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people." By and large the majority of the battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.
Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War.
As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow. So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit??? American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace. That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior. American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.
One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians? I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level. Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions. THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.
Would the Americans have won the Revolutionary War much faster if they had gone with 90% guerilla warfare?
I contend: Hell yes.
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During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people. They were quite frustrated by the inability of their superior conventional forces to prevail against a fluid domestic resistance. And thanks to some material support from France, we made the war too costly for them to sustain at such a distance from the heart of their empire. They went home and we were free to get down to the business of killing Indians and making money.
I'm sure you're not getting it yet, so I'll draw you a diagram...
Then Now
----- ----
The British The Americans
The Americans The Iraqis
The French The Iranians
The Indians The Kurds
Now I know that you're never going to accept the premise that some dirty brown-skinned sand-ni@@er with a crazy name who speaks gibberish instead of English might be as passionate and sincere in wanting to get rid, by any means necessary, of the imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that.
But I will ask you to reflect on the central point in my little analogy...
The British lost.
We, too, are going to lose. It's an historical inevitability. [Of course, as Dr. Rice demonstrated recently, history is not the neocons strong suit.]
I'd like us to acknowledge that inevitability and end the war now before more people on both sides are killed for no fucking purpose.
Once again, when put in an indefensible position, you respond with overly long nonsensicle drivel, complete with accusations that U.S soldiers are rapists. And don't point out a few isolated incidents either. According to your logic, Americans are rapists, because there are rapes committed by Americans every year.
And save the "Your not getting it" crap. I've dealt with people way brighter than you.
The bottom line is that your analogy is absurd:
Hiding in forrests is not the same as hiding behind women and children, and in Mosques.
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
<GASP>
you r anti american.. :-\
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Once again, when put in an indefensible position, you respond with overly long nonsensicle drivel
Option 1: Whine and bitch about it.
Option 2: Stop reading and replying to my posts.
Hope this helps.
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Option 1: Whine and bitch about it.
Option 2: Stop reading and replying to my posts.
Hope this helps.
I'll go with Option 3:
Point out the many flaws and holes in your logic, shoot down your arguments with undeniable facts as I did with your "The Unemployment Rate is really higher" argument, and then watch you pout like a little girl at a supermarket check-out line, whose mommy just told her that she couldn't have that Snickers bar.
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I'll go with Option 3
Would that option also include learning how to spell the word "nonsensical"?
If so, I'm all for it. :)
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I must have missed that Unemployment thread where lizzy made ribo cry like a little girl at the supermarket. ;D
EDIT:
I found it http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=129968.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=129968.0) yet I can't quite see any posts where ribo is crying like a girl that can't have a snickers.
Maybe there's a parallel universe where the exact same thread occurred but the outcome was different.
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yet I can't quite see any posts where ribo is crying like a girl that can't have a snickers.
Back when I was in short pants, I did cry once when I wanted a Mounds but Mom got me an Almond Joy instead.
Cuz, you know, sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't.
;)
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ribo,
mad props. that is an amazing post about the similiarities. France helping the colonists to hurt their neighboring UK was their way of keeping the UK weak enough to not move into their neck of the woods for british imperialism.
wow, this puts it all in perspective. I know you'll have the irrational neotaints here, calling you names because they don't understand American history.
Fascinating...
Oh dear, is it any coincidence you're all over someone that has said things including:
- He wants the US to lose in Iraq
- A mockery of dead Australian soldier Jake Kovco's family
- 9/11 terrorists are 'brave'; have his 'respect'
Why is it you have more in common with this person than not? You're yet to post a single criticism of him here, and yet you openly abuse conservatives for 'naive' positions in which they don't 'understand' the bigger picture. Your defence and support for Ribonucleic makes your own arguments look illogical and hate-driven - as if they weren't enough already.
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During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people........
The Americans The Iraqis
Blah Blah rant, etc. (cue 240)
Your 'argument' falls flat on its face like a drunkard immediately here.
The somewhat laughable presumption that the US forces are at war against the Iraqis highlights either your deep set ignorance of the conflict, or your deliberate attempts to mislead the reader. Possibly both.
The people we are actually at war against are terrorists: people that seek to destroy the lives of (mostly the Iraqis you claim are our enemy) for no reason other than their support of freedom. A mere elementary knowledge of the Iraq conflict is all that is needed to note this.
Iraq has its own democratically appointed government; we are not at war with them - can you not realise this in your Leftist fantasy world?
Iraq has had two national legislative elections since the colation arrived. Allow me to dismiss your argument:
Constitutional Election
With a total of some 8.4 million votes cast, a 58 % turnout, the Iraqi Electoral Commission considers the election to have taken place without major disruption. Voter turnout ranged from 89 % in the Kurdish region of Dahuk to two percent in the Sunni region of Anbar.
According to what you have said, we are at war with these 8.4 million people. People so brave and so enthusiastic for democracy, they voted en mass despite the ever present threat of terror attacks. Seems to me like such people are in support of the Bush doctrine, wouldn't you say? Here's some more figures to consider:
General Election
Turnout for the election was reported to be high, at 70%. The White House was encouraged by the relatively low levels of violence during polling
Oh, and just to rub salt into your ideological wounds, I used your little safe haven of Wikipedia as my source. I encourage all do read further into the newly instated, and successful, democratic process in Iraq - a process the Iraqis (Not our enemy) have ratified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_National_Assembly_election,_2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_National_Assembly_election,_2005)
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Has it turned into sunshine, lollipops and rainbows over there yet? I'm a little slow on getting the news.
“For months now the White House has rejected claims that the situation in Iraq has deteriorated into civil war, and for the most part, news organizations like NBC have hesitated to characterize it as such," host Matt Lauer told viewers. "But after careful consideration, NBC News has decided a change in terminology is warranted -- that the situation in Iraq with armed, militarized factions fighting for their own political agendas can now be characterized as civil war.”
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/11/7f52a0a5-b5f0-4dff-ae4b-eea23f2ed844.html
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Would that option also include learning how to spell the word "nonsensical"?
If so, I'm all for it. :)
The spelling police have arrived. Hide the five syllable words.
This smug condescending attitude is why normal people want nothing to do with your ilk. (See: "Air America," before it disappears completely, as opposed to just going bankrupt).
Face it. Only a dick points out spelling errors in an informal situation.
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Has it turned into sunshine, lollipops and rainbows over there yet?
Certainly not, but it's typical of you to sneer at a people given a chance at democracy.
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Face it. Only a dick points out spelling errors in an informal situation.
I bow to your evident authority on matters of etiquette. ::)
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Certainly not, but it's typical of you to sneer at a people given a chance at democracy.
Lol Bruce... the drama! Perhaps some day you too will play the Great Dane upon the stage. ;)
Why do you say I sneer at people for pointing out that they've been plunged into civil war? I pity every mother who's had to bury a child.
You probably don't know much about tribal cultures and how they function. You're very earnest though... give you points.
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Lol Bruce... the drama! Perhaps some day you too will play the Great Dane upon the stage. ;)
Why do you say I sneer at people for pointing out that they've been plunged into civil war? I pity every mother who's had to bury a child.
You probably don't know much about tribal cultures and how they function. You're very earnest though... give you points.
Possibly because there's actually no 'civil war' as you exaggerate it to be. Also, who exactly are you accusing of having a 'tribal culture'? I'd advise you be very careful with your answer.
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I'd advise you be very careful with your answer.
You know, Bruce... even if you shared every last one of my political opinions, I'd still think you were an asshole from your constant use of this tone.
I mean, seriously... who the fuck do you think you are? :) What happens if Deedee doesn't heed your pissy little threat? Are you going to "expose" her? Are you going to hector other people to join you in "condemning" her?
God, what a miserable little soul you must have.
yeah yeah, I know. "meltdown". :)
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the smallest package in the world is someone who is all wrapped up in themselves
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You know, Bruce... even if you shared every last one of my political opinions, I'd still think you were an asshole from your constant use of this tone.
I mean, seriously... who the fuck do you think you are? :) What happens if Deedee doesn't heed your pissy little threat? Are you going to "expose" her? Are you going to hector other people to join you in "condemning" her?
God, what a miserable little soul you must have.
yeah yeah, I know. "meltdown". :)
The reality though is that the Iraqi people are a tribal culture... That's just the truth... of course Bruce will say, "No, they're not", but if you look at the infighting amongst their own nation... It's not a national pride, but a pride of their respective tribes...
Deedee is absolutely accurate on that point, but she better tread lightly... because you know if someone on this forum thinks she's wrong, her life may just come to an end.
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And yes, he is an asshole, who will now tell us how our approval of him means so little...
What
Ever
Dude
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You know, Bruce... even if you shared every last one of my political opinions, I'd still think you were an asshole from your constant use of this tone.
I mean, seriously... who the fuck do you think you are? :) What happens if Deedee doesn't heed your pissy little threat? Are you going to "expose" her? Are you going to hector other people to join you in "condemning" her?
God, what a miserable little soul you must have.
yeah yeah, I know. "meltdown". :)
Yep, that pretty much sums it up perfectly.
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Oh dear, is it any coincidence you're all over someone that has said things including:
- He wants the US to lose in Iraq
- A mockery of dead Australian soldier Jake Kovco's family
- 9/11 terrorists are 'brave'; have his 'respect'
Why is it you have more in common with this person than not? You're yet to post a single criticism of him here, and yet you openly abuse conservatives for 'naive' positions in which they don't 'understand' the bigger picture. Your defence and support for Ribonucleic makes your own arguments look illogical and hate-driven - as if they weren't enough already.
Yeah, sometimes 240 cracks me up. If you spent all day everyday on the internet your sense of reality would be skewed as well.
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Some of you guys are just falling all over yourselves to attack Bruce. You're starting to sound like parrots.
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Some of you guys are just falling all over yourselves to attack Bruce.
Democracy in action is a beautiful thing, ain't it. ;D
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Democracy in action is a beautiful thing, ain't it. ;D
More like the migration of lemmings if you ask me. :)
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More like the migration of lemmings if you ask me. :)
Just wait till you 2 have a disagreement and he starts with his character attacks and pompous crap.
But he sees you as his conservative brother, so in his dwindling of friendly support i doubt he'll pull it that junk on you for now.
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Just wait till you 2 have a disagreement and he starts with his character attacks and pompous crap.
But he sees you as his conservative brother, so in his dwindling of friendly support i doubt he'll pull it that junk on you for now.
Ah ha! The tacit admission that the attacks on Bruce are done primarily by liberals. :) (I think is true BTW.)
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More like the migration of lemmings if you ask me. :)
You only say that because he shares your political leanings. I've never seen you stick up for any dem in the hot seat. And he deserves it. He's extremely rude...although he says he welcomes debate, he basically throws down the gauntlet with every reply.
I'm going to respond to his question above later when I have time, but since you are a reasonable person, can you plse explain to me how my saying that I don't think life is all moonbeams and unicorns in Iraq, (based on news sources and personal observations gleaned from friends serving there) can somehow be interpreted as a "sneer" at the people currently living under rather dire circumstances there?
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Ah ha! The tacit admission that the attacks on Bruce are done primarily by liberals. :) (I think is true BTW.)
hhehehe.
Yep it's a conspiracy to bully and dominate the forum.
you didn't get the memo?
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Ah ha! The tacit admission that the attacks on Bruce are done primarily by liberals. :) (I think is true BTW.)
He's Gordon Pritchard. Watch the movie and you'll understand.
the minute he gets a taste of his own medicine whines like a "Bee on watch" and can't handle it.
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can you plse explain to me how my saying that I don't think life is all moonbeams and unicorns in Iraq... can somehow be interpreted as a "sneer" at the people currently living under rather dire circumstances there?
The same way he tried to twist my suggestion that the family of an Australian soldier killed in Iraq might be angry that their son died for a lie as "mocking their grief" - or whatever pompous nonsense he used.
He must think his personal smears against his ideological adversaries here are less likely to be challenged if he claims the righteous mantle of defending someone else's suffering.
What a putz. :)
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Ah ha! The tacit admission that the attacks on Bruce are done primarily by liberals. :) (I think is true BTW.)
Bruce's only raison d'etre to being here, by his own admission is to "debunk" liberal fallacies. He drags left versus right into every debate, even when it isn't an issue. His cultish devotion to all things extreme right wing impairs his judgement and he always goes off half-cocked with insults and derisive comments aimed at liberals so there can never be any reasoned debate. It always ends up in mud-slinging. It's tedious, childish, and boring au but.
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You only say that because he shares your political leanings. I've never seen you stick up for any dem in the hot seat. And he deserves it. He's extremely rude...although he says he welcomes debate, he basically throws down the gauntlet with every reply.
I'm going to respond to his question above later when I have time, but since you are a reasonable person, can you plse explain to me how my saying that I don't think life is all moonbeams and unicorns in Iraq, (based on news sources and personal observations gleaned from friends serving there) can somehow be interpreted as a "sneer" at the people currently living under rather dire circumstances there?
Deedee I will stick up for anyone in the hot seat that I happen to agree with. I make no apologies for the fact that those I disagree with are wrong. :D
Thanks for the compliment. From one reasonable person to another, I don't think your comments were sneer. What I suspect is you are both cynical of each other, so comments that you both make to each other are probably misinterpreted.
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Bruce's only raison d'etre to being here, by his own admission is to "debunk" liberal fallacies. He drags left versus right into every debate, even when it isn't an issue. His cultish devotion to all things extreme right wing impairs his judgement and he always goes off half-cocked with insults and derisive comments aimed at liberals so there can never be any reasoned debate. It always ends up in mud-slinging. It's tedious, childish, and boring au but.
And yet people continue to engage him. He must be doing something right (so to speak). :) I think his style rubs some people the wrong way, but he does bring facts to the table. How you spin/interpret them is debatable, but from what I've seen he at least provides information that he believes supports his positions.
I agree the mud-slinging by anyone gets to be tedious, childish, and boring. I'm guilty of some of this myself.
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The same way he tried to twist my suggestion that the family of an Australian soldier killed in Iraq might be angry that their son died for a lie as "mocking their grief" - or whatever pompous nonsense he used.
He must think his personal smears against his ideological adversaries here are less likely to be challenged if he claims the righteous mantle of defending someone else's suffering.
What a putz. :)
I would say mishuggah half the time... but tomaytoe, tomahtoe. :)
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I would say mishuggah half the time... but tomaytoe, tomahtoe. :)
I'm assuming mishuggah is Hebrew of "putz"?
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I'm assuming mishuggah is Hebrew of "putz"?
Lol... both Yiddish.
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Lol... both Yiddish.
LOL, sorry. I meant Yiddish. I've been to a few bar mitzvahs and heard enough 13 year olds struggling with Hebrew to know the difference. Sorry, hope I didn't offend.
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Bottom line is this:
If your first response to a person's posts that you don't agree with is filled with character attacks then your a jack ass. Period dot com dot org dot net.
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Bottom line is this:
If your first response to a person's posts that you don't agree with is filled with character attacks then your a jack ass. Period dot com dot org dot net.
I still think bruce is ultimately good for this board. He gets people to post, true it usually ends up in an argument rather than a debate but he still keeps it entertaining. As I said in another post, he's like true adonis and the sarcasm/squadfather account in that respect.
I particularly like the battles he has with Deedee, they're very entertaining. And watching her post calmly and rationally when you know she wants to scream and yell is amusing.
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I still think bruce is ultimately good for this board. He gets people to post, true it usually ends up in an argument rather than a debate but he still keeps it entertaining. As I said in another post, he's like true adonis and the sarcasm/squadfather account in that respect.
I particularly like the battles he has with Deedee, they're very entertaining. And watching her post calmly and rationally when you know she wants to scream and yell is amusing.
yes this is true.
I don't dislike BRUCE other then his pompous tendencies to attack people, he however, is entertaining.
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LOL, sorry. I meant Yiddish. I've been to a few bar mitzvahs and heard enough 13 year olds struggling with Hebrew to know the difference. Sorry, hope I didn't offend.
Not at all. Am not Jewish myself, but grew up in Montreal (world's best bagels) within a large community, unlike Rib who I think is Jewish and lives in Mormon country. :)
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Not at all. Am not Jewish myself, but grew up in Montreal (world's best bagels) within a large community, unlike Rib who I think is Jewish and lives in Mormon country. :)
Good, and if ribo was offended I'm sorry as well.
Been to Montreal a few times but only for bachelor parties, St. Catherine street is a winner. ;D
I was always amazed how open the city is with the topic of sex. A huge strip club sits right next to a Hugo Boss store selling $1,200 suits and down the street is a underground adult video booth place which is across the street from another high end store. I remember being blown away by it the first time I saw it.
Down here in Boston the strip clubs were in the Combat Zone which is a DUMP. A respectable business wouldn't go within a mile of the place.
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I still think bruce is ultimately good for this board. He gets people to post, true it usually ends up in an argument rather than a debate but he still keeps it entertaining. As I said in another post, he's like true adonis and the sarcasm/squadfather account in that respect.
I particularly like the battles he has with Deedee, they're very entertaining. And watching her post calmly and rationally when you know she wants to scream and yell is amusing.
:-\. Well he's the Ralph Kramden of the two of us. I am calm and rational. :)
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Well he's the Ralph Kramden of the two of us.
I find Ralph a lot more endearing. :)
But they do both have a BIIIIIIG MOUTH!!
(http://www.buyersmls.com/honeymooners/eyes.jpg)
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I find Ralph a lot more endearing. :)
But they do both have a BIIIIIIG MOUTH!!
(http://www.buyersmls.com/honeymooners/eyes.jpg)
Okay now I SERIOUSLY almost lost it a minute ago in front of all my colleagues. :D I hope he ends up taking this in good humor because I'm starting to actually feel a little affection toward him.
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Been to Montreal a few times but only for bachelor parties, St. Catherine street is a winner. ;D
I was always amazed how open the city is with the topic of sex. A huge strip club sits right next to a Hugo Boss store selling $1,200 suits and down the street is a underground adult video booth place which is across the street from another high end store. I remember being blown away by it the first time I saw it.
Down here in Boston the strip clubs were in the Combat Zone which is a DUMP. A respectable business wouldn't go within a mile of the place.
Say no more... you and half the US male population have come to Montreal for that very purpose. :) I got used to the idea of businessmen going to the all you can eat lunch buffet at Chez Paree a loooonnng time ago. (Who eats lunch in a strip club? :P) It's the French influence. Lol. I'm on your side of the fence now... love my yearly trips to Boston btw... some of the architecture is amazingly similar to Montreal. But coming from such an open environment, I still occasionally do a double-take at the subtle but real difference in our cultures.
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Possibly because there's actually no 'civil war' as you exaggerate it to be. Also, who exactly are you accusing of having a 'tribal culture'? I'd advise you be very careful with your answer.
As you can see from this thread, we've been discussing your debating technique. I'm going to ignore the derisive way you address me, but regarding your post above, I will remind you that I have not "accused" anyone of belonging to or having a tribal culture. Looking back at what I posted, I'm satisfied that what I wrote was in no way derogatory or insulting to anyone who may be living in a tribal culture. I have also not "sneered" at the Iraqi people, simply because I disagree completely with YOUR exagerated view that Iraqi city streets are filled with joyous citizens and ticker tape parades.
That having been said, I do in fact believe the Iraqi people have a tribal culture mindset, and believe it will take at least a generation if not more to become inured to the idea of "democratic" rule. Perhaps it isn't possible at all. Here's something I read when I became interested in the Niqab/Burka question and why tribal culturism is so inherent and deep-rooted. I believe what the author says... he's a distinguished military officer who has spent time working as a security analyst in Iraq, and his paper is peer-reviewed. You might find it interesting, as well as an interesting departure from the usual Andrew Bolt right wing material you seem to prefer.
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue10_3/mac/index.html
Actually, here's a whole shopping cart full, if you're inclined to read.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=iraq+%2B+tribal+culture&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Just wait till you 2 have a disagreement and he starts with his character attacks and pompous crap.
But he sees you as his conservative brother, so in his dwindling of friendly support i doubt he'll pull it that junk on you for now.
Gimme a break. Ribo is easily the most pompous person on this board, but I've never heard you refer to him as such.
The only reason libs here have issues with Bruce is because he does to your silly arguments what that hillbilly did to Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
Squeal Libs!!!
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Ribo is easily the most pompous person on this board
Your earlier posts have made it clear that my vocabulary aggravates your inferiority complex. But the Internet is here to help you....
http://www.bartleby.com/61/
Use it. It's your friend. :)
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Gimme a break. Ribo is easily the most pompous person on this board, but I've never heard you refer to him as such.
The only reason libs here have issues with Bruce is because he does to your silly arguments what that hillbilly did to Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
Squeal Libs!!!
LOL, fantastic post, he even posted a picture from the movie. ;D
Didn't you claim in another thread that you made ribo cry like a little girl at the grocery store? Can you point out exactly where that happened because I can't quite find it.
Well, let me clarify. I found the thread you were referring to I just couldn't find the part where you made ribo cry. Thanks.
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I found the thread you were referring to I just couldn't find the part where you made ribo cry.
Yeah, that's puzzling. ::)
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I love this thread. Completely bilious and hate-filled... yet so funny. Cathartic.
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Gimme a break. Ribo is easily the most pompous person on this board, but I've never heard you refer to him as such.
The only reason libs here have issues with Bruce is because he does to your silly arguments what that hillbilly did to Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
Squeal Libs!!!
Haha, thank you, and helloooo all! :)
I love this thread. Completely bilious and hate-filled... yet so funny. Cathartic.
Indeedee!
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LOL, fantastic post, he even posted a picture from the movie. ;D
Didn't you claim in another thread that you made ribo cry like a little girl at the grocery store? Can you point out exactly where that happened because I can't quite find it.
Well, let me clarify. I found the thread you were referring to I just couldn't find the part where you made ribo cry. Thanks.
Since you're obsessed with this, here goes:
Ribo was making an argument that the unemployment rate is actually higher than reported. Pinkos love to make the economic picture seem bleak. It's their way of saying, "You see? You see? Capitalism doesn't work!!!!".
Ribo had his little bullet points and his link to back up his claim. Sadly, for him, I had to tear his argument to shreads by pointing out that there are just as many reasons why the Unemployment Rate can actually be LOWER than reported.
One of my stronger points was that a sizable percentage of people collecting unemployment insurance don't start looking for a job until their benefits are about to run out. Anyone who works in an unemployment office would confirm this.
Does Ribo concede my point and give me my props? Of course, not! He goes into pout mode and comes back with some silly, completely irrelevant Ronald Reagan quote about welfare mothers driving Cadilacs. I'm sure there were tears streaming onto Ribo's keyboard as he typed the feeble reply.
There, are you happy now?
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Since you're obsessed with this, here goes:
Ribo was making an argument that the unemployment rate is actually higher than reported. Pinkos love to make the economic picture seem bleak. It's their way of saying, "You see? You see? Capitalism doesn't work!!!!".
Ribo had his little bullet points and his link to back up his claim. Sadly, for him, I had to tear his argument to shreads by pointing out that there are just as many reasons why the Unemployment Rate can actually be LOWER than reported.
One of my stronger points was that a sizable percentage of people collecting unemployment insurance don't start looking for a job until their benefits are about to run out. Anyone who works in an unemployment office would confirm this.
Does Ribo concede my point and give me my props? Of course, not! He goes into pout mode and comes back with some silly, completely irrelevant Ronald Reagan quote about welfare mothers driving Cadilacs. I'm sure there were tears streaming onto Ribo's keyboard as he typed the feeble reply.
There, are you happy now?
Do you often tell people that ask you to prove your claim that they're obsessed?
I was actually looking for one of ribo's posts showing him crying. Your synopsis doesn't really cut it as well as his actual post would.
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I was actually looking for one of ribo's posts showing him crying.
I'm afraid "I'm sure there were tears streaming onto Ribo's keyboard as he typed the feeble reply" is the best he has to offer. ;D
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I'm afraid "I'm sure there were tears streaming onto Ribo's keyboard as he typed the feeble reply" is the best he has to offer. ;D
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I love the pictures you use, the young kid picking his nose is particularly funny. LOL
The picture from "Deliverance" with the caption "Squeal Lib" that you used earlier was absolutely priceless. ;D
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Is that kid behind her flipping us off? ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=133064.0;attach=148967;image)
I'm sure you were wearing women's underwear when you made this graphic. :)
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Now I feel bad about what I said and miss Bruce.
I think I'm addicted to arguing with him. :-\
What's wrong with me? ;D
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What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.
If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.
How were the 9/11 guys "giving their lives for their country"? As far as I know it was soley based on religion.
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How were the 9/11 guys "giving their lives for their country"? As far as I know it was soley based on religion.
Good point. They weren't acting on behalf of Saudi Arabia or any other country.
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Good point. They weren't acting on behalf of Saudi Arabia or any other country.
actually, there was a great deal of intelligence tying the 911 guys to Pakistani Intelligence (ISI) and yes, Saudi Arabia.
The lead general of the ISI wired Muhammed Atta 100,000, several days before the 911 attacks. He then had breakfast with Goss (future CIA chief) and Graham (a 911 commissioner) on the morning of 9/11 as the attacks were taking place.
I hope the more intelligent readers here would think this is weird. Also weird is that this general's name was removed from all transcripts and recordsing made by the white house, even though CNN and CSPAN picked it up up just fine, during the 911 commission hearings.
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actually, there was a great deal of intelligence tying the 911 guys to Pakistani Intelligence (ISI) and yes, Saudi Arabia.
See, now there you go with your cockamamie conspiracy theories again...
We give military support to Pakistan. The Bushes practically French-kiss the Saud royal family whenever they get together.
If what you were saying was true, wouldn't we have gone after them instead of Saddam?
;)
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See, now there you go with your cockamamie conspiracy theories again...
You took the words right out of my mouth. :)
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How were the 9/11 guys "giving their lives for their country"? As far as I know it was soley based on religion.
See, now you're saying ony 9/11 was terrorism... I'm relating to the "Terrorism" in Iraq and other countries as well... that is not based on religion. I'm not solely looking at 9/11...
According to what we now classify as "terrorism" the revolutionary war was a terrorist act.
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actually, there was a great deal of intelligence tying the 911 guys to Pakistani Intelligence (ISI) and yes, Saudi Arabia.
The lead general of the ISI wired Muhammed Atta 100,000, several days before the 911 attacks. He then had breakfast with Goss (future CIA chief) and Graham (a 911 commissioner) on the morning of 9/11 as the attacks were taking place.
I hope the more intelligent readers here would think this is weird. Also weird is that this general's name was removed from all transcripts and recordsing made by the white house, even though CNN and CSPAN picked it up up just fine, during the 911 commission hearings.
Does anyone
1) believe this isn't true, or
2) find this incredibly appalling that it was never investigated?
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The same way he tried to twist my suggestion that the family of an Australian soldier killed in Iraq might be angry that their son died for a lie as "mocking their grief" - or whatever pompous nonsense he used.
He just think his personal smears against his ideological adversaries here are less likely to be challenged if he claims the righteous mantle of defending someone else's suffering.
What a putz. :)
Oh, okay - 'pompous nonsense' it is......
First Australian soldier killed in Iraq, eh?
Is his family upset that the Australian government sent him to his death in order to secure American access to Iraqi oil reserves?
Or not.
'Is his family upset'? Sure sounds like a mocking tone to me - but you never were one to take responsibility for what you've said.