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On National Public Radio this morning - that bastion of elitist liberalism - the hostess blandly asked her assembled talking heads re the KSM confession: "Does it matter if he was tortured?"
So at last we've dispensed with those winking euphemisms "duress" and "aggressive interrogation". We can throw the naked cowering body onto the metal table and study it impassively under the harsh overhead light...
Torture.
Am I the only one who can remember the distant past - 7 years ago! - when this country still regarded torture as a universal and supreme evil? Like slavery and child prostitution?
How did we sink this low this quickly? Why did the criminals and thugs who now rule us find it so easy to manipulate our fear and cruelty?
History - if we survive to have one - will remember we "good Germans" with all the contempt we deserve.
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On National Public Radio this morning - that bastion of elitist liberalism - the hostess blandly asked her assembled talking heads re the KSM confession: "Does it matter if he was tortured?"
So at last we've dispensed with those winking euphemisms "duress" and "aggressive interrogation". We can throw the naked cowering body onto the metal table and study it impassively under the harsh overhead light...
Torture.
Am I the only one who can remember the distant past - 7 years ago! - when this country still regarded torture as a universal and supreme evil? Like slavery and child prostitution?
How did we sink this low this quickly? Why did the criminals and thugs who now rule us find it so easy to manipulate our fear and cruelty?
History - if we survive to have one - will remember we "good Germans" with all the contempt we deserve.
Answer: neotaints in leadership and a fear motivated public
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On National Public Radio this morning - that bastion of elitist liberalism - the hostess blandly asked her assembled talking heads re the KSM confession: "Does it matter if he was tortured?"
So at last we've dispensed with those winking euphemisms "duress" and "aggressive interrogation". We can throw the naked cowering body onto the metal table and study it impassively under the harsh overhead light...
Torture.
Am I the only one who can remember the distant past - 7 years ago! - when this country still regarded torture as a universal and supreme evil? Like slavery and child prostitution?
How did we sink this low this quickly? Why did the criminals and thugs who now rule us find it so easy to manipulate our fear and cruelty?
History - if we survive to have one - will remember we "good Germans" with all the contempt we deserve.
Because pussies like you think everything is torture. Lord forbid we put them in a cold uncomfortable room!!
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Because pussies like you think everything is torture. Lord forbid we put them in a cold uncomfortable room!!
Pussies like me believe waterboarding is torture. Do you?
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Pussies like me believe waterboarding is torture. Do you?
no I don't think waterboarding is torture
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no I don't think waterboarding is torture
so you have no prob with the US using it on captured men, or them using it on our captured men?
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no I don't think waterboarding is torture
come to think of it, you're in the fcking military, man.
and you don't think waterboarding is torture?
don't they teach you guys this stuff? holy fuck.
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no I don't think waterboarding is torture
It's only not a torture when done so by an US agent ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
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It's only not a torture when done so by an US agent ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
yeah, it's easy to think it isn't torture until it gets done to you.
if it wasn't torture, then why are they doing it? Are they trying to keep their prisoner hydrated?
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it's a mental game, they are depending on the weak to fold under pressure and reveal info.
how would you guys get info from the enemy? ask pretty please? :-*
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it's a mental game, they are depending on the weak to fold under pressure and reveal info.
how would you guys get info from the enemy? ask pretty please? :-*
i'd torture them.
i just wouldn't beat around the bush about what i'm doing.
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I'd torture them.
i just wouldn't beat around the bush about what I'm doing.
honesty is the best policy :D
even if it's not politically correct
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come to think of it, you're in the fcking military, man.
and you don't think waterboarding is torture?
don't they teach you guys this stuff? holy fuck.
I fully expect to have shit like waterboarding and much worse done to me if I am ever in that situation. But see I guess being a man about it and realizing I signed up for a job that could include that it makes me more accepting. It all comes down to being a man, not a pussy
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I fully expect to have shit like waterboarding and much worse done to me if I am ever in that situation. But see I guess being a man about it and realizing I signed up for a job that could include that it makes me more accepting. It all comes down to being a man, not a pussy
see, the US govt agreed not to torture people. all the civilized govts of the world did.
and they do it anyway. which drops the US down to the level of those terrorist assholes.
i have higher expectations from my country. I wish you did too.
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see, the US govt agreed not to torture people. all the civilized govts of the world did.
and they do it anyway. which drops the US down to the level of those terrorist assholes.
i have higher expectations from my country. I wish you did too.
Maybe the US doesn't consider waterboarding torture unlike your pussy ass. These people want to fight in a war and you libs want us to feel bad because we put them in cold rooms and won't let them read the Koran. They should have taken a page out of your book and stayed home on the couch and bitched about everything.
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I fully expect to have shit like waterboarding and much worse done to me if I am ever in that situation. But see I guess being a man about it and realizing I signed up for a job that could include that it makes me more accepting. It all comes down to being a man, not a pussy
So you're saying your standards are just as low as Suddam Hussein and Osama Bin Ladens?
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Maybe the US doesn't consider waterboarding torture unlike your pussy ass. These people want to fight in a war and you libs want us to feel bad because we put them in cold rooms and won't let them read the Koran. They should have taken a page out of your book and stayed home on the couch and bitched about everything.
It's not that we feel bad for some low life terrorist. Why don't you use your brain? ???
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Because pussies like you think everything is torture. Lord forbid we put them in a cold uncomfortable room!!
you really think thats all it would take for a potential suicide bomber..mind you..someone willing to die..to spill his guts?
lmao! ::)
we torture..in horrific ways..and i'm ALL FOR IT..
i'm just against torturing the "maybes"
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It's not that we feel bad for some low life terrorist. Why don't you use your brain? ???
If you don't feel bad then why complain they are in cold cells?
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If you don't feel bad then why complain they are in cold cells?
Honestly, I would slowly cut a terrorists ears off myself, or any enemy of the United States myself if necessary. I'm fine with our Soldiers occasionally unofficially beating them up for info as long as the higher ranks don't find out. Torture officially ordered by the top of our government though?? That is fucked up, this administration is on the level of low life governments around the world now as far as I'm concerned.
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Honestly, I would slowly cut a terrorists ears off myself, or any enemy of the United States myself if necessary. I'm fine with our Soldiers occasionally unofficially beating them up for info as long as the higher ranks don't find out. Torture officially ordered by the top of our government though?? That is fucked up, this administration is on the level of low life governments around the world now as far as I'm concerned.
Who do you think ordered the waterboarding?
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Maybe the US doesn't consider waterboarding torture unlike your pussy ass.
They do. Well, they did. Soldiers in WWII were prosecuted and jailed for using waterboarding and torture.
I guess they just don't make standards like they used to.
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They do. Well, they did. Soldiers in WWII were prosecuted and jailed for using waterboarding and torture.
I guess they just don't make standards like they used to.
alright, good research. All I want to know is what do you care if they waterboard a detainee? I hope it isn't worry about how we are seen in the worlds eyes
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They do. Well, they did. Soldiers in WWII were prosecuted and jailed for using waterboarding and torture.
I guess they just don't make standards like they used to.
lol... wait, wait, i know...
"terrorists today are so much worse than in WWII. We need torture."
Right. Cause japanese kamikaze pilots who filled their nosecones with tnt and flew into aircraft carriers weren't crazy.
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alright, good research. All I want to know is what do you care if they waterboard a detainee? I hope it isn't worry about how we are seen in the worlds eyes
You're an american soldier, on a message board, telling us you condone torture.
to me, that's sad. I had this glorified image of our forces - brave, honorable, and above resorting to these horrible, inhumane tactics that those savage insurgents use.
I no longer have that image.
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Who do you think ordered the waterboarding?
I'm not sure who originally ordered it, but it was endorsed by Vice President Dick Cheney.
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You're an american soldier, on a message board, telling us you condone torture.
to me, that's sad. I had this glorified image of our forces - brave, honorable, and above resorting to these horrible, inhumane tactics that those savage insurgents use.
I no longer have that image.
see I never said I condoned it, way to try and put words in my mouth again. Actually I stated many times I don't consider waterboarding torture. I want to know what you care either way.
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see I never said I condoned it, way to try and put words in my mouth again. Actually I stated many times I don't consider waterboarding torture. I want to know what you care either way.
Would you use waterboarding, if the situation called for it?
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Would you use waterboarding, if the situation called for it?
Of course I would as long as it was legal. I consider torture ot be things like pulling fingernails, breaking hands and feet..you know things that leave a lasting discomfort or permanent disfigurement. Not 10 minutes of discomfort
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I don't consider waterboarding torture.
So would you waterboard your kid? Let's say he spills grape juice on the white couch fucs it up? Or do you lock him up in a cold dark room and blast Christina Aguilera, while flashing lights, feeding him only rice pilaf for the next week?
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So would you waterboard your kid? Let's say he spills grape juice on the white couch fucs it up? Or do you lock him up in a cold dark room and blast Christina Aguilera, while flashing lights, feeding him only rice pilaf for the next week?
lol, loser