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Title: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Matt C on March 16, 2007, 11:31:57 PM
Discuss.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: gh15 on March 17, 2007, 12:30:46 AM
why do serge look like he was reborn in 1965?
why do branch look 48?
why do ron look like he just got accepted to the new kids on theblock band?
why do youngblood looked 50+ in most of his pictures?

white vs black my friend,,its called genetics
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: musclecenter on March 17, 2007, 12:39:46 AM
Hi,guys
Stay natural !!
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Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: gordiano on March 17, 2007, 12:43:18 AM
Why do women say one thing, but mean another?


Why are there so many fucking stupid folks?


Where do fat people get their self-esteem?


If I take a shit in the woods, and no one is there to smell it, does it still stink?


Why am I so fucking horny all the time?


Why must every girl have a "tramp stamp", and every guy a "tribal arm band"?


Why is everything Apple makes, so fucking gay?


Why does every 115lb beast think they are "cage fighters"?






Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Moen on March 17, 2007, 12:52:40 AM
Simple: androgens make you look older, that's why you look younger again when you come off them
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: GoneAway on March 17, 2007, 12:57:18 AM
I'm gonna agree with gh15 about white vs. black to a point, but that doesn't explain Dave Draper, Arnold, Reg Park, and many other white guys in the 60's and 70's who looked just fine.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: TheAnimal on March 17, 2007, 01:21:32 AM
Are you saying that a woman has told you she doesn't like muscular guys before and next thing you know it, she's sucking you off?
hahaha the myth that women don't like muscular men is so blatently untrue

Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: gordiano on March 17, 2007, 01:26:12 AM
hahaha the myth that women don't like muscular men is so blatently untrue



I think that every woman has her own preferences.


Some like the super skinny, starved, HIV patient look. Don't ask me why, but that's popular right now.


Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: gordiano on March 17, 2007, 01:27:49 AM
Are you saying that a woman has told you she doesn't like muscular guys before and next thing you know it, she's sucking you off?

 ;)

 ;D


I'm saying that some women like to be man-handled, picked up and fucked, pounded and spanked.....and I'm the right man for the job!
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: TheAnimal on March 17, 2007, 01:35:41 AM
hahahaha are you suggesting that some women are craving cock from a skinny "metro-sexual" who would be diagnosed with anorexia nervosa at the drop of a hat combined with persistant use of recreational drugs consequently having the enthusiasm for general life similiar to that of men in retirement villages. These "men" also see a hard day's work in trying on a few pairs of "tight fit" pants.

hahaha gayer than idolising David Beckham
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Sir William Idol on March 17, 2007, 01:35:56 AM
why do serge look like he was reborn in 1965?
why do branch look 48?
why do ron look like he just got accepted to the new kids on theblock band?
why do youngblood looked 50+ in most of his pictures?

white vs black my friend,,its called genetics

gh15 is right again.  blacks tend to age much more quickly than whites initially, then they kind of just stay looking the same for a long time until they're old.  this isnt true in all cases but for the most part from what i've seen, and i grew up in a city with a high density of blacks.

but lets hear it from the blacks...

speak on this
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Moen on March 17, 2007, 01:42:33 AM
I'm gonna agree with gh15 about white vs. black to a point, but that doesn't explain Dave Draper, Arnold, Reg Park, and many other white guys in the 60's and 70's who looked just fine.

Ofcourse it does, it's fairly well known these guys werent using big amounts of test or tren
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: brendan_192 on March 17, 2007, 03:26:21 AM
hahaha ugly fucks. i love it when you fags start the "women love muscular men" bullshit again. Give it up pussies no amount of time you spend in the gym is going to make you better looking, best you just accept the fact your an ugly girl.
How many chics have rejected you for a much thinner (better looking) guy may i ask.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: TheAnimal on March 17, 2007, 03:40:02 AM
hahaha ugly fucks. i love it when you fags start the "women love muscular men" bullshit again. Give it up pussies no amount of time you spend in the gym is going to make you better looking, best you just accept the fact your an ugly ####.
How many chics have rejected you for a much thinner (better looking) guy may i ask.
hahaha, nah man I know Im good looking just going to have my word on that...

I just have seen how women light up when describing this "big guy" they met etc. like they are some sort of demi-god.

Have fun staying skinny/fat, peace out.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: brendan_192 on March 17, 2007, 04:08:43 AM
yea but there opinion of a "big guy" is alot different to yours.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: BayGBM on March 17, 2007, 06:48:02 AM
yea but there opinion of a "big guy" is alot different to yours.


 ha ha ha ha ha ha  ;D
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Hedgehog on March 17, 2007, 06:56:28 AM
I'm gonna agree with gh15 about white vs. black to a point, but that doesn't explain Dave Draper, Arnold, Reg Park, and many other white guys in the 60's and 70's who looked just fine.

Dave Draper got off gear back in the 70's.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: GoneAway on March 17, 2007, 08:01:17 AM
Dave Draper got off gear back in the 70's.

-Hedge

I didn't know that. Only seen very few photos of him, but in the ones where he looked jacked, he looks his age, not older.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: dr.chimps on March 17, 2007, 08:12:05 AM
gh15 is right again.  blacks tend to age much more quickly than whites initially, then they kind of just stay looking the same for a long time until they're old.  this isnt true in all cases but for the most part from what i've seen, and i grew up in a city with a high density of blacks.

but lets hear it from the blacks...

speak on this
Ever heard the saying, 'black don't crack; brown don't frown?' It's all to do with the skin, collagen, malanin etc. It's why black women as they age tend to look better longer than their white counterparts.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: columbusdude82 on March 17, 2007, 08:16:56 AM
Since no one posted this already, here goes, judge for yourselves:
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Buttsuck on March 17, 2007, 08:43:17 AM
Since no one posted this already, here goes, judge for yourselves:
Hahahah Trey Brewer looks just like one of my friends who did Teen Nationals.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: columbusdude82 on March 17, 2007, 08:44:47 AM
But your friend here doesn't seem like he has "aged" does he?!
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Buttsuck on March 17, 2007, 08:46:21 AM
But your friend here doesn't seem like he has "aged" does he?!
Yeah imsure if you gave him time he would
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: columbusdude82 on March 17, 2007, 08:47:38 AM
Yeah imsure if you gave him time he would

Doesn't that apply to everyone else in the world? We all age "if given time," that's the definition.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: Buttsuck on March 17, 2007, 08:48:46 AM
Doesn't that apply to everyone else in the world? We all age "if given time," that's the definition.
::)
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: ubaz on March 17, 2007, 06:49:20 PM
why do serge look like he was reborn in 1965?
why do branch look 48?
why do ron look like he just got accepted to the new kids on theblock band?
why do youngblood looked 50+ in most of his pictures?

white vs black my friend,,its called genetics

Noone mentioned the fact that alot of blacks tend to use lotions, moisturizers etc on a daily basis. I don't see whites do this as much.
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: bmacsys on March 17, 2007, 08:01:43 PM
Matt, leave it to you to come up with some weird ass topics!
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: suckmymuscle on March 17, 2007, 09:32:51 PM
Why is it that Kevin Levrone looks younger than he is but some pros look much older?  Is it basically genetic, or does juicing up play a big role in accelerating aging?

Here is Markus Ruhl at age 27 looking in his late sixties:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprix/130.jpg)

Discuss.

  Well, Ruhl is a heavy smoker, and carbon monoxide speeds up oxidative stress. There are several reasons why pro bodybuilders look much older than they really are. The reasons are as follows:

 - A high calorie diet.

 - Too much protein and carbs of the wrong type.

 - Androgens.

 - Poor gastrointestinal health.

  Let's analyse one by one. The most obvious reason why pro bodybuilders look much older than they really are is because they are, physiologically, much older than they are chronologically. Eating too many calories speeds up oxidative stress, decreases the natural production of antioxidants like superoxide dismutase and glutathione and generates too much waste products from metabolisation, like ammonia and uric acid. This dramatically accelerates ageing.

  Eating large amounts of protein and simple carbs, like many bodybuilders who are packing on weight do, while not getting enough fibers from plant material, plays havoc with your skin, hair and nails. While saturated fats and simple sugars are worse for your health than protein, the latter is unparallelled in it's ability to generate toxic by-products from it's metabolisation. This puts the body in an acidic rather than alkaline state, and some of the acids released by the kidneys and liver from the metabolisation process is excreted through the hair, nails and skin, giving them a "brittle" appearance, which is similar to the skin of old people.

  Androgens. Masculine faces look older than non-masculine faces. For instance, the reason why Tom Cruise still looks like an adolescent at age 44 is not because he doesen't have wrinkles - his nasolabial sulcus is already clearly etched -, but because his facial features are not very mature. The same can be said about DiCaprio, who still looks like he's 17. Large amounts of androgens masculinize one's facial features, making one look more mature and older. By making the face larger and squarer, androgens make you look older. Arnold looked older at age 22 than DiCaprio at age 37, because the former's face is so masculine.

  Poor gastro-intestinal health. Again, a consequence of diet. While pro bodybuilders might claim to eat broccoli at every meal, the reality is that all they care about is getting their protein and as much calories as possible. In the off-season, they gorge in beef and candy. Simple sugars are a prefered food for bacteria, and the lack of fiber slows digestion. The result is that the gastro-intestinal tract of pro bodybuilders is filled with bacteria, which ferments food. This results in constipation and inflammation of the walls of the GI tract. This toxemia is manifested in the skin as white spots, discoloration and inflammated pores, all of which make you look older than you truly are.

  As for why Levrone's physiological age is the same as his chronological one, I don't know, but I will make a guess. Kevin never seemed to go overboard on calories durig his competitive years, which is evident by his taunt waist. So, there was no increased oxidative damage in his case. Furthermore, Kevin seemed to have a preference for GH. While androgens make you look older by making your face look more mature, GH actually seems to help protect the elastin and collagen structures of your skin, thus making you look younger by preventing wrinkles and lines - although I personally think it's side effects are hardly worth it.

  As for Ruhl looking like he's in his late sixties, I think that's a hyperbolic statement on the part of Matt C. But he does have a point: while the average pro looks to be about 10 to 15 years older than his chronological age, Ruhl looks like he's about 25 years older. While he doesen't look like he's in his late sixties, he does look like he's in his early fities or at least late forties. In the case of Ruhl, he adds insult to injury, because he combines a typical pro bodybuilder lifestyle, with all that it entails, with the habit of smoking, which also adds a decade more to your physiological age and appearance. So Ruhl looking a quarter of a century older than he is the result of combining too many bad habits at the same time. At this rate, he'll be dead in 10 years, and let me tell you that I'm not being metaphorical in this assertion. Hope this helps. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: suckmymuscle on March 18, 2007, 12:41:36 PM
Dave Draper got off gear back in the 70's.

-Hedge

  I'm not so sure about that. There are some pics of him from the 1980s where he's looking pretty jacked.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Gear and accelerated aging.
Post by: suckmymuscle on March 21, 2007, 03:09:22 AM
  Well, Ruhl is a heavy smoker, and carbon monoxide speeds up oxidative stress. There are several reasons why pro bodybuilders look much older than they really are. The reasons are as follows:

 - A high calorie diet.

 - Too much protein and carbs of the wrong type.

 - Androgens.

 - Poor gastrointestinal health.

  Let's analyse one by one. The most obvious reason why pro bodybuilders look much older than they really are is because they are, physiologically, much older than they are chronologically. Eating too many calories speeds up oxidative stress, decreases the natural production of antioxidants like superoxide dismutase and glutathione and generates too much waste products from metabolisation, like ammonia and uric acid. This dramatically accelerates ageing.

  Eating large amounts of protein and simple carbs, like many bodybuilders who are packing on weight do, while not getting enough fibers from plant material, plays havoc with your skin, hair and nails. While saturated fats and simple sugars are worse for your health than protein, the latter is unparallelled in it's ability to generate toxic by-products from it's metabolisation. This puts the body in an acidic rather than alkaline state, and some of the acids released by the kidneys and liver from the metabolisation process is excreted through the hair, nails and skin, giving them a "brittle" appearance, which is similar to the skin of old people.

  Androgens. Masculine faces look older than non-masculine faces. For instance, the reason why Tom Cruise still looks like an adolescent at age 44 is not because he doesen't have wrinkles - his nasolabial sulcus is already clearly etched -, but because his facial features are not very mature. The same can be said about DiCaprio, who still looks like he's 17. Large amounts of androgens masculinize one's facial features, making one look more mature and older. By making the face larger and squarer, androgens make you look older. Arnold looked older at age 22 than DiCaprio at age 37, because the former's face is so masculine.

  Poor gastro-intestinal health. Again, a consequence of diet. While pro bodybuilders might claim to eat broccoli at every meal, the reality is that all they care about is getting their protein and as much calories as possible. In the off-season, they gorge in beef and candy. Simple sugars are a prefered food for bacteria, and the lack of fiber slows digestion. The result is that the gastro-intestinal tract of pro bodybuilders is filled with bacteria, which ferments food. This results in constipation and inflammation of the walls of the GI tract. This toxemia is manifested in the skin as white spots, discoloration and inflammated pores, all of which make you look older than you truly are.

  As for why Levrone's physiological age is the same as his chronological one, I don't know, but I will make a guess. Kevin never seemed to go overboard on calories durig his competitive years, which is evident by his taunt waist. So, there was no increased oxidative damage in his case. Furthermore, Kevin seemed to have a preference for GH. While androgens make you look older by making your face look more mature, GH actually seems to help protect the elastin and collagen structures of your skin, thus making you look younger by preventing wrinkles and lines - although I personally think it's side effects are hardly worth it.

  As for Ruhl looking like he's in his late sixties, I think that's a hyperbolic statement on the part of Matt C. But he does have a point: while the average pro looks to be about 10 to 15 years older than his chronological age, Ruhl looks like he's about 25 years older. While he doesen't look like he's in his late sixties, he does look like he's in his early fities or at least late forties. In the case of Ruhl, he adds insult to injury, because he combines a typical pro bodybuilder lifestyle, with all that it entails, with the habit of smoking, which also adds a decade more to your physiological age and appearance. So Ruhl looking a quarter of a century older than he is the result of combining too many bad habits at the same time. At this rate, he'll be dead in 10 years, and let me tell you that I'm not being metaphorical in this assertion. Hope this helps. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  Matt C, I posted a detailed reply to your question, so please read it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE