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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: boonstack on March 17, 2007, 12:18:31 PM
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Well, let's put it like this:
6'6, 350lb+ "Strongman" vs. maybe 5'7-10" SEAL. Who'd win? Obviously a lot of factors go into play, but its supreme size vs. supreme endurance, and most seals would put a nfl running back to shame. Just a one on one hand to hand combat... I pick the seal
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a punch to the throat will take out anyone no matter the size, xo I will take the Navy Seal. Plus they are trained for combat while the strongman isn't. If all it took was strength and size to win battles than all military combantants would take drugs and lift heavy weights all the time instead of training in many different disciplines and training for speed, agility, endurance, technique and strength to name just a few qualities of a good fighter.
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Strongman would crush him. Why do you think they have weight classes in boxing, wresling etc...
bigger is better (generally)
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a punch to the throat will take out anyone no matter the size, xo I will take the Navy Seal. Plus they are trained for combat while the strongman isn't. If all it took was strength and size to win battles than all military combantants would take drugs and lift heavy weights all the time instead of training in many different disciplines and training for speed, agility, endurance, technique and strength to name just a few qualities of a good fighter.
haha thats stupid. how easy is it to land a punch in the throath LOL
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Navy Seal.
By a big margin.
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I was in San Diego this weekend for spring break, we went to some club and things got a little crazy one of my friends he plays D1 defensive end 6'4" 265 started hitting on some girl. My friend is a nice guy and if he knew she was with someone he wouldn't chase it so her boyfriend gets up acting like a jack ass and starts yelling navy seal and other bull shit and hes with about 3 more dudes. My friend just starts to walk away ignoring him. The navy seal hits him in the back of the head my friend turns around head butts him and drops him cold. Two of his friends jump him but he throws one off him about 20 feet and puts the other in a headlock and starts to beat his face in. So in regards to your question maybe
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Strongman would crush him. Why do you think they have weight classes in boxing, wresling etc...
bigger is better (generally)
a strongman and a navy seal are not equals in battle. Now I would take a 230 pound navy seal over a 180 pound one, but even then who knows
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haha thats stupid. how easy is it to land a punch in the throath LOL
I don't know. How easy is it to take someone's knee out or a kick to the groin or a poke to the eyes?
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I don't know. How easy is it to take someone's knee out or a kick to the groin or a poke to the eyes?
not very easy...
you have watched to much ninja films and krav maga bullshit is my guess...
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it depends on the strongman, Pudz is an experienced boxer so id say Pudz could crush pretty much anyone
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Definetly the SEAL, special forces units are trained to kill with they're bare hands, to make every strike the first and last one. To be an efficient killing machine.
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does the navy seal have his gun?
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I was in San Diego this weekend for spring break, we went to some club and things got a little crazy one of my friends he plays D1 defensive end 6'4" 265 started hitting on some girl. My friend is a nice guy and if he knew she was with someone he wouldn't chase it so her boyfriend gets up acting like a jack ass and starts yelling navy seal and other bull shit and hes with about 3 more dudes. My friend just starts to walk away ignoring him. The navy seal hits him in the back of the head my friend turns around head butts him and drops him cold. Two of his friends jump him but he throws one off him about 20 feet and puts the other in a headlock and starts to beat his face in. So in regards to your question maybe
but he's not natural like 90% of the NCAA
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Oh dear you nerd this is the gayest thread since I last began one.
Totally depends on what training they had, plus so many other factors.
Fuck off nerd
ta ta
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waste of bandwidth, I pick the seal as if theres a contest anyway.. the Seal is trained for war -v- strongman trained to pick up boulders and squat.
(http://kevino.net/images/kevino.net/fullsize/p-seal-at-toronto-zoo.jpg)
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Seals don't even have arms. There flippers could slap the shit out you though
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What are we now on bb.com?
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brutal 30 year old virgin who lives in his mom's basement style thread, what next? let me guess, the old "who would win in a fight between bruce lee and mike tyson", thats usually a favourite amongst those who are pea of brain.
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Wait, is the navy seal Steven Segal? Because then it would be a no brainer!
This is the most juvinial thread ever. A street fight is an unpredictable thing at best.
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Wait, is the navy seal Steven Segal? Because then it would be a no brainer!
This is the most juvinial thread ever. A street fight is an unpredictable thing at best.
you tell 'em Steve.
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Did anyone else see Randy COuture Submit the Navy Seal 6 times in 5 minutes on "Pros vs Joes".
The Announcers were going on before hand about what a badass the guy was and how he has endured extensive hand to hand combat training as a seal, and would be a real challenge for Couture.
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Wait, is the navy seal Steven Segal? Because then it would be a no brainer!
This is the most juvinial thread ever. A street fight is an unpredictable thing at best.
YES!!! it's Casey Ryback!!
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Yeah special forces FIGHTING ability is super hyped by people who don't know any better.
The instructors are highly experienced sensais and hand to hand instructors and they get, at most, a few weeks with em.
Now tell me, if you guys sat in a karate dojo or judo dojo for 6 months would you be indestructable?
I think not.
The strongman would most likely crush the seal by a longshot.
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A professional killer vs a powerlifter?
Are we seriously debating this?
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i would choke both of them out
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I was in San Diego this weekend for spring break, we went to some club and things got a little crazy one of my friends he plays D1 defensive end 6'4" 265 started hitting on some girl. My friend is a nice guy and if he knew she was with someone he wouldn't chase it so her boyfriend gets up acting like a jack ass and starts yelling navy seal and other bull shit and hes with about 3 more dudes. My friend just starts to walk away ignoring him. The navy seal hits him in the back of the head my friend turns around head butts him and drops him cold. Two of his friends jump him but he throws one off him about 20 feet and puts the other in a headlock and starts to beat his face in. So in regards to your question maybe
Way to lift my avatar man!
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I was in San Diego this weekend for spring break, we went to some club and things got a little crazy one of my friends he plays D1 defensive end 6'4" 265 started hitting on some girl. My friend is a nice guy and if he knew she was with someone he wouldn't chase it so her boyfriend gets up acting like a jack ass and starts yelling navy seal and other bull shit and hes with about 3 more dudes. My friend just starts to walk away ignoring him. The navy seal hits him in the back of the head my friend turns around head butts him and drops him cold. Two of his friends jump him but he throws one off him about 20 feet and puts the other in a headlock and starts to beat his face in. So in regards to your question maybe
I dont beleive this for one second. Seals dont go around fighting in bars, Claiming to be seals. Seals are highly trained, and disciplined. This thread is gay.
Also didn't you just PM me for an addy on the avatar?
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Yeah special forces FIGHTING ability is super hyped by people who don't know any better.
The instructors are highly experienced sensais and hand to hand instructors and they get, at most, a few weeks with em.
Now tell me, if you guys sat in a karate dojo or judo dojo for 6 months would you be indestructable?
I think not.
The strongman would most likely crush the seal by a longshot.
finally a voice of reason...Kids on here watch to many movies...
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Well, let's put it like this:
6'6, 350lb+ "Strongman" vs. maybe 5'7-10" SEAL. Who'd win? Obviously a lot of factors go into play, but its supreme size vs. supreme endurance, and most seals would put a nfl running back to shame. Just a one on one hand to hand combat... I pick the seal
I pick the special forces soldier. The muscle man would just put up his dukes and have no idea he is about to get his windpipe ripped out or eyes popped out before he could even react.
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Seal would get ripped in half like a piece of tissue paper.....
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I pick the special forces soldier. The muscle man would just put up his dukes and have no idea he is about to get his windpipe ripped out or eyes popped out before he could even react.
Yeah right... like I said everyone severely overestimates a specwar soldiers fighting ability.
Throw a strong man and a seal into a barroom brawl and the seal would prob be knocked out in no time. Specwar training is all around combat meaning guns, demo, h2h, knives, rappelling, jumping, rescue, stealth.. but put em up in a physical contest against someone used to throwing around 3 or 4 times thier weight and is used to pain and the seal would be in for a big surprise.
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Oh dear you nerd this is the gayest thread since I last began one.
Totally depends on what training they had, plus so many other factors.
Fuck off nerd
ta ta
your um... weird. And im 19 and worth more than u will ever be. freak. hope this helps:)
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Did anyone else see Randy COuture Submit the Navy Seal 6 times in 5 minutes on "Pros vs Joes".
The Announcers were going on before hand about what a badass the guy was and how he has endured extensive hand to hand combat training as a seal, and would be a real challenge for Couture.
Randy Couture is about as far from the average strongman in fighting ability as it gets.
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waste of bandwidth, I pick the seal as if theres a contest anyway.. the Seal is trained for war -v- strongman trained to pick up boulders and squat.
(http://kevino.net/images/kevino.net/fullsize/p-seal-at-toronto-zoo.jpg)
yea.. there arent multiple opinions/debates going on here... ::)
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Yeah right... like I said everyone severely overestimates a specwar soldiers fighting ability.
Throw a strong man and a seal into a barroom brawl and the seal would prob be knocked out in no time. Specwar training is all around combat meaning guns, demo, h2h, knives, rappelling, jumping, rescue, stealth.. but put em up in a physical contest against someone used to throwing around 3 or 4 times thier weight and is used to pain and the seal would be in for a big surprise.
And the strongman has exactly zero fighting skills? How does lifting weights equate into an ability to fight?
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And the strongman has exactly zero fighting skills? How does lifting weights equate into an ability to fight?
watch out.. this guys a bulldog and he MEANS BUSINESS
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watch out.. this guys a bulldog and he MEANS BUSINESS
I don't know how anybody thinks just because a guy is big that it will compensate for having zero skills compared to a person who is trained for the worst situations possible.
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Simply because an overly powerful guy can very easily make up for fighting ability. Being able to overpower an opponent either by striking him harder, grabbing and controlling him, or manipulation of limbs isn't something that has to be "trained" and can devastate another human faster than a lot of skills can make up for.
Don't get me wrong, seals are tough.. but they're not these great fighters like you see in the movies. H2H is a very small part in thier training. You're over estimating what they bring to the table as a far as a fight goes.
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stupid discussion....
if its a FIGHT probably the Strongman.. BUT if all bets are off and its to the death (and the seal is ALLOWED to kill him) the seal wins no brainer, all he needs is ONE shot to the right spot
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Simply because an overly powerful guy can very easily make up for fighting ability. Being able to overpower an opponent either by striking him harder, grabbing and controlling him, or manipulation of limbs isn't something that has to be "trained" and can devastate another human faster than a lot of skills can make up for.
Thats why Royce Gracie routinely beat men who were double his size and strength.
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Thats why Royce Gracie routinely beat men who were double his size and strength.
That's sport fighting with rules... not street fighting. Grapplers can go much farther in the "sport" of fighting.
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You all give the Navy Seals too much credit.
We would have won the Iraq war by now it they were all that.
The Somali's wouldn't have had them run with their tail between their legs,
And Castro wouldn't still be ruling Cuba.
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stupid discussion....
if its a FIGHT probably the Strongman.. BUT if all bets are off and its to the death (and the seal is ALLOWED to kill him) the seal wins no brainer, all he needs is ONE shot to the right spot
Their are 5th degree and up black belt karate guys that have gotten their asses handed to them in the ring(MMA) against just decent wrestlers with some good ground and pound...Their isn't no seal out there that have the skills of these karate guy...That being said these Karate guys have the knowledge of the so called death punch ect and none them can pull such a thing off...And I would bet the house that some seal with minimal fighting ability is going to have an effective "death shot"...Not saying its impossible but in a legitimate fight, its the closest thing to impossible..
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I dont beleive this for one second. Seals dont go around fighting in bars, Claiming to be seals. Seals are highly trained, and disciplined. This thread is gay.
Also didn't you just PM me for an addy on the avatar?
suck it bitch i was there
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Seals do go out and have a beer and these dudes looked pretty drunk
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After seeing the seal perform against Couture on Pro vs Joes I think a strong man such as Pudz would have still lost but faired much better.
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not very easy...
you have watched to much ninja films and krav maga bullshit is my guess...
are you fucking kidding me man? they (maybe not the eyes) are some of the most unprotected places of an aggressor
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a UFC fighter could beat a strongman - a navy seal is nowhere near a UFC fighter - the Strongman would win - it's like a gorilla VS a human - no fucking contest!
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A professional killer vs a powerlifter?
Are we seriously debating this?
a killer with weapons, the latest and greatest technology available and sneaking up on people.
seals are trained with basic hand to hand combat against other soldiers.
those soldiers dont weigh 350 and flip 900 lbs. tractor tires.
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stupid discussion....
if its a FIGHT probably the Strongman.. BUT if all bets are off and its to the death (and the seal is ALLOWED to kill him) the seal wins no brainer, all he needs is ONE shot to the right spot
likewise for the strongman.
seals are the only ones who are allowed and know to go after the throat, eyes, etc.
::)
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And the strongman has exactly zero fighting skills? How does lifting weights equate into an ability to fight?
lifting weights doesnt, but just bc someone is big and strong DOES NOT mean they dont know how to fight.
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Oh dear you nerd this is the gayest thread since I last began one.
Totally depends on what training they had, plus so many other factors.
Fuck off nerd
ta ta
too right, someone's just turned 16 or thought he was on sherdog
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OK,, how about 15inch arm NAVY SEAL Casey Ryback (seagal) VS "20inch" arm COMMANDO John Matrix (arnie)?? :P
A good comparsion between quick, decisive and skilled VS bigger and stronger and both can fight.
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i love these gay threads.
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A professional killer vs a powerlifter?
Are we seriously debating this?
I know this thread is awesome. ::)
Chuck Norris would own them all.
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what if grandma had nuts? would she be grandpa? Oh brother gimme a break, it's too early for this nonsense...
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Well, let's put it like this:
6'6, 350lb+ "Strongman" vs. maybe 5'7-10" SEAL. Who'd win? Obviously a lot of factors go into play, but its supreme size vs. supreme endurance, and most seals would put a nfl running back to shame. Just a one on one hand to hand combat... I pick the seal
Seriously do you really think a Navy Seal would put aNFL running back to shame? How so? In what way?
Im not sure why Seals get some "rap" as being badass fighters.It aint so.
In "B.U.D.S." training the emphasis is on how to overcome obstacles under water and use equipment in harsh environments and acomplish a mission.
You are trained to be "Tough as nails" not to be the ultimate killing machine lol.
How does getting up at 4am and running an obstcle course on the beacg and having a drill instrustor kick sand in your face while you do pushups in knee deep water make you a badass fighter?? lol
STRONG MAN by a mile.
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Another stupid thread for whom believe in muscular guy take on everything.
I can beat most of Pro BBer on the street though....
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Another stupid thread for whom believe in muscular guy take on everything.
I can beat most of Pro BBer on the street though....
Yes, normally strong guys are slow.
if you're fast and know the right spots to hit and are tough enough to take a blow or two, it's no problem.
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Yes, normally strong guys are slow.
if you're fast and know the right spots to hit and are tough enough to take a blow or two, it's no problem.
Yes. But actualy,I have seen several cases that big man lost against small one.
Big guys are very confident and they have tendency to use his good built body.
But,small people are weak and they use their brain to make good strategy or weapons.
Nobody win against weapon thoough....
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Yes. But actualy,I have seen several cases that big man lost against small one.
Big guys are very confident and they have tendency to use his good built body.
But,small people are weak and they use their brain to make good strategy or weapons.
Nobody win against weapon thoough....
haha, weapons are out of question moron.
I could kill the whole K1 squad with one single shot from a rocket launcher. ;D ;D
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haha, weapons are out of question moron.
I could kill the whole K1 squad with one single shot from a rocket launcher. ;D ;D
See? You are stronger than anybody!! ;D
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See? You are stronger than anybody!! ;D
YES!! ;D ;D
It's all about positive thinking, right??
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ttt for this great thread
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The question really is...
Could a juiced up Goodrum take a natural Derek Anthony in a streetfight?
discuss..
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Actually I belive that Vince could handle DA now. Not being racisct but Vince is Black, and DA was probably brought up in a middle upper class white area with barely any exposure to them, so he probably is naturally affraid of them.
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Seriously do you really think a Navy Seal would put aNFL running back to shame? How so? In what way?
Im not sure why Seals get some "rap" as being badass fighters.It aint so.
In "B.U.D.S." training the emphasis is on how to overcome obstacles under water and use equipment in harsh environments and acomplish a mission.
You are trained to be "Tough as nails" not to be the ultimate killing machine lol.
How does getting up at 4am and running an obstcle course on the beacg and having a drill instrustor kick sand in your face while you do pushups in knee deep water make you a badass fighter?? lol
STRONG MAN by a mile.
well, the open ocean is a lot different than a 100 yard field in a superdome. How many blacks compared to whites are running backs? And how many whites compared to blacks know how to swim? ;)
seals can obviously run well... AND swim.
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Strongmen are VERY strong but a Strongman and a Navy Seal usually and generally have different skillsets.
While one is specialized in lifting as much weight as possible, the other specializes in incapacitating/destroying other people.
Of course, there are many factors, the difference in size, strength, speed.
But in general, the Navy Seal have a better skillset for this kind of event (incapacitating a person).
I assume the Seal would be somewhat faster than the Strongman, and would attack his groin,windpipe and whatnot before the Strongman could lift him up and perform militarypresses with him.
There are always exceptions though, in one situation out of 10, we might have a very athletic strongman which moves faster than general and knows some fightingskills, while this Seal in question may be sloppier than normal, which would result in a victory for the Strongman.
But generally, i'd put my money on the Seals over The Strongmen.
Now, Ninjas VS Pirates, that's another question.
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Strongmen are VERY strong but a Strongman and a Navy Seal usually and generally have different skillsets.
While one is specialized in lifting as much weight as possible, the other specializes in incapacitating/destroying other people.
Of course, there are many factors, the difference in size, strength, speed.
But in general, the Navy Seal have a better skillset for this kind of event (incapacitating a person).
I assume the Seal would be somewhat faster than the Strongman, and would attack his groin,windpipe and whatnot before the Strongman could lift him up and perform militarypresses with him.
There are always exceptions though, in one situation out of 10, we might have a very athletic strongman which moves faster than general and knows some fightingskills, while this Seal in question may be sloppier than normal, which would result in a victory for the Strongman.
But generally, i'd put my money on the Seals over The Strongmen.
Now, Ninjas VS Pirates, that's another question.
Wow, you put a lot of thought into this.
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Strongmen are VERY strong but a Strongman and a Navy Seal usually and generally have different skillsets.
While one is specialized in lifting as much weight as possible, the other specializes in incapacitating/destroying other people.
Of course, there are many factors, the difference in size, strength, speed.
But in general, the Navy Seal have a better skillset for this kind of event (incapacitating a person).
I assume the Seal would be somewhat faster than the Strongman, and would attack his groin,windpipe and whatnot before the Strongman could lift him up and perform militarypresses with him.
There are always exceptions though, in one situation out of 10, we might have a very athletic strongman which moves faster than general and knows some fightingskills, while this Seal in question may be sloppier than normal, which would result in a victory for the Strongman.
But generally, i'd put my money on the Seals over The Strongmen.
Now, Ninjas VS Pirates, that's another question.
Ninjas hands down.
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Ninjas hands down.
But, you can consider Navy seals as Ninjas of now a day.
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But, you can consider Navy seals as Ninjas of now a day.
Your forgetting a fight between a seal and a strongman wouldn't include weapons. But I can only picture 50 ninjas swinging in on pirates with rappelling ropes and swords. The pirates would be slaughtered.
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lifting weights doesnt, but just bc someone is big and strong DOES NOT mean they dont know how to fight.
Chances are they don't. How many fights have people had here? I am sure most people here aren't brawlers.
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Without equipment SEAL's are totally useless.
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Without equipment SEAL's are totally useless.
Dead wrong,you dont know how it goes Aikido,Jutsu...etc.
Do you know Rickson Gracie how great he was?
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well, the open ocean is a lot different than a 100 yard field in a superdome. How many blacks compared to whites are running backs? And how many whites compared to blacks know how to swim? ;)
seals can obviously run well... AND swim.
SO are they fighting a NFL running back out in the ocean or a black strongman? ???
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Most SEALs have 0 unarmed combat training. Unless they seek it out themselves. Give him a Sig 226, MP5, or an M4, and I'd take the SEAL. Without weapons, the larger guy wins. They are pretty athletic, and have major endurance, but most of the SEAL guys who have come to our school get wrecked by most of the seasoned white belts.
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If the strong man has watched any MMA fighting and can take a punch...The strongman will knock the seal out within 3 to 5 minutes of fighting...All he would have to do is take the seal to the ground and use a barage of ground and pound...
If nobody stopped the fight, the strongman could kill the seal in under 5 mins...
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Yes, normally strong guys are slow.
if you're fast and know the right spots to hit and are tough enough to take a blow or two, it's no problem.
Depends... Mariusz is not slow. Many K-1 fighters weight more than 110 kgs and are not slow... "One blow or two" are enough to put you to sleep, coming from a guy like Mariusz.
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I was in San Diego this weekend for spring break, we went to some club and things got a little crazy one of my friends he plays D1 defensive end 6'4" 265 started hitting on some girl. My friend is a nice guy and if he knew she was with someone he wouldn't chase it so her boyfriend gets up acting like a jack ass and starts yelling navy seal and other bull shit and hes with about 3 more dudes. My friend just starts to walk away ignoring him. The navy seal hits him in the back of the head my friend turns around head butts him and drops him cold. Two of his friends jump him but he throws one off him about 20 feet and puts the other in a headlock and starts to beat his face in. So in regards to your question maybe
My brother is marine recon...a couple of years back we were in a bar fight and the huge bouncer was trying to get to me. My bro jumped on his back and put him in some kind of choke...the bouncer was walking with my bro on his back...he took 3 steps and fell to the ground. out cold. and my bro is 6 feet 190 tops. this was in SD also.