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Title: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 19, 2007, 04:35:06 PM
On CNN.  Accuses Bush of misleading American Public.

Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 04:37:22 PM
On CNN.  Accuses Bush of misleading American Public.



Oh brother.   ::)  Now there's a "high crime or misdemeanor." 
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 04:37:39 PM
On CNN.  Accuses Bush of misleading American Public.

thirty or forty vermont towns did this last month.

catching on?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 04:44:02 PM
What a doofus.   ::)

Mar 19, 2007 4:58 pm US/Mountain

Protesters Turn Out In Salt Lake City
SALT LAKE CITY Mayor Rocky Anderson called for President Bush’s removal by impeachment Monday as anti-war protesters rallied at City Hall on the fourth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq.

Speaking to a crowd of hundreds, Anderson delivered a litany of accusations. He said Bush lied about the reasons for invading Iraq and authorized a global campaign to detain and torture foreign nationals suspected of having ties to Al-Qaeda terrorists in defiance of domestic and international law.

“I do not say this lightly, but the record is plain: President Bush is a war criminal,” Anderson, a Democrat in heavily Republican Utah, said in another stinging denunciation of the Republican president. “He must be held accountable.”

It was not the first criticism from Anderson, who was on the impeachment-speech circuit as recently as Saturday in Washington, D.C., and has testified at the Washington state Capitol.

Anderson “has been called everything from an embarrassment to a nut case,” said the Rev. Erin Gilmore of the Holladay United Church of Christ, who gave the mayor her full support.

Anderson’s outspoken views have polarized Utah, where many feel his inflamed rhetoric is doing the state a dishonor.

“He should respect the rank of presidency,” said retired Army Sgt.-Maj. Steven Hixon, who was in full uniform as the only visible counter-protester Monday.

“It’s like a flashback to the 1970s,” said Hixon, an ROTC instructor at the University of Utah, who served in Cambodia, Beirut and El Salvador during a 30-year Army career.

“A soldier in a foxhole in Iraq, when he sees this on CNN on his Blackberry, it has to be disheartening,” Hixon said. “Our leaders are doing the best they can. I think it’s winnable. We’ve just got to buckle down and do it.”

Other anti-war demonstrations were staged across the country Monday as Bush pleaded for patience, saying the U.S. can control Iraq but that it will take months longer. The Utah rally was not as large as an event in August that drew thousands to City Hall during an American Legion convention.

Bush’s secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, defended the decision to go to war in Iraq but acknowledged an initial failure to send enough troops to handle the civil unrest after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

Anderson said Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have squandered the country’s credibility.

“We are sadly becoming like those tyrannical human rights-violating nations which we have always tried to distinguish ourselves from,” the mayor said.

A few hours earlier, a funeral Mass was held for U.S. Army Spc. Brandon Parr at the Cathedral of the Madeleine in Salt Lake City. He was killed March 3 in Baghdad.

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_078190248.html
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 04:51:41 PM
watch what happens when it's 800 US cities calling for it.
suddenly it's incredibly good for a state rep's 2008 candidacy to start impeachments bills in 2007.

watch what happens when it's 12 or 15 state reps calling for it.
suddenly you have congressmen starting impeachment bills.


Besides, if Bush didn't commit any crimes, he has nothing to worry about.  "Bring em on", right? ;)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: gymforlord on March 19, 2007, 05:11:27 PM
watch what happens when it's 800 US cities calling for it.
suddenly it's incredibly good for a state rep's 2008 candidacy to start impeachments bills in 2007.

watch what happens when it's 12 or 15 state reps calling for it.
suddenly you have congressmen starting impeachment bills.


Besides, if Bush didn't commit any crimes, he has nothing to worry about.  "Bring em on", right? ;)
The "bring 'em on" quote IS pretty funny... :)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 19, 2007, 05:12:34 PM
Has any other president since 1900 have this happen to him besides Clinton and Nixon?

Where mayors of many cities call for impeachment?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 05:16:15 PM
Where mayors of many cities call for impeachment?

It's mainly symbolic.  Ensures they get re-elected.  And lets the people at the level above them (state govt) know what the constituents in that city desire.  They do it also, and keep their jobs, and the level above them wakes up.  Eventually it reaches congress, who acts if it's right and the evidence is there.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 19, 2007, 05:17:40 PM
It's mainly symbolic.  Ensures they get re-elected.  And lets the people at the level above them (state govt) know what the constituents in that city desire.  They do it also, and keep their jobs, and the level above them wakes up.  Eventually it reaches congress, who acts if it's right and the evidence is there.

is that what happened with Clinton?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 05:22:08 PM
is that what happened with Clinton?

The impeachment talk with Clinton started shortly after he took office. 

With Bush, the impeachment talk is absolute malarkey.  He hasn't committed a crime.  It's simply dumb water cooler talk.  And a couple batty mayors.   :)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: gymforlord on March 19, 2007, 05:25:08 PM
The impeachment talk with Clinton started shortly after he took office. 

With Bush, the impeachment talk is absolute malarkey.  He hasn't committed a crime.  It's simply dumb water cooler talk.  And a couple batty mayors.   :)

It does seem like the "flavor of the moment" opinion...
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 19, 2007, 05:28:23 PM
The impeachment talk with Clinton started shortly after he took office. 

With Bush, the impeachment talk is absolute malarkey.  He hasn't committed a crime.  It's simply dumb water cooler talk.  And a couple batty mayors.   :)


i wasn't paying much attention back then.  Did it start with City Mayors?  Or was it Gingo while he was doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
Clinton lied before a grand jury.  Bush would do th same, but his people are smart enough to keep him from going under oath.  If they ever got Bush under oath, he'd commit perjury in about 30 seconds, or admit to seriously impeachable stuff.

The thing is, Clinton got a BJ.  Bush invaded a nation based upon a cherry-picked fallacy from his man Doug Feith in the pentagon, whose report was fed to congress.  3200 Americans dead, 24,000 wounded.  hundreds of thou of iraqis dead. 

but hey, clinton got a BJ, right?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: ribonucleic on March 19, 2007, 05:42:36 PM
As a resident of SLC, I am proud to call Rocky Anderson my mayor.  :)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 05:54:36 PM
i wasn't paying much attention back then.  Did it start with City Mayors?  Or was it Gingo while he was doing the same thing?

It started in Congress.  I believe it began with former Rep. Bob Barr.  There was another Rep. (forget his name) who was all over the Whitewater matter.  They were beating the impeachment drums for years.  They spent a lot of my money running down rabbit trails.   >:(
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 06:09:17 PM
It started in Congress.  I believe it began with former Rep. Bob Barr.  There was another Rep. (forget his name) who was all over the Whitewater matter.  They were beating the impeachment drums for years.  They spent a lot of my money running down rabbit trails.   >:(

Do you believe people should be able to lie under oath?

Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 06:14:10 PM
Do you believe people should be able to lie under oath?



 ???  240 why do you keep asking me dumb questions?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 06:20:31 PM
???  240 why do you keep asking me dumb questions?

Didn't you refer to the Clinton impeachment as a rabbit trail?

You, me, and people in DC cannot lie under oath without consequences.  period.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 06:31:33 PM
Didn't you refer to the Clinton impeachment as a rabbit trail?

You, me, and people in DC cannot lie under oath without consequences.  period.

I was referring to essentially all of the Clinton investigations.  They resulted in a partisan impeachment of the President, and that's about it.  They were a waste of my tax dollars.  I was not happy.   

You don't know what you're talking about.  Lying under oath about a material issue is perjury.   
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 07:51:26 PM
You don't know what you're talking about.  Lying under oath about a material issue is perjury.   

Really?  Can you show me where the law says "minor" lies under oath are okay?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 08:14:40 PM
Really?  Can you show me where the law says "minor" lies under oath are okay?

 ::)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 08:15:44 PM
::)

Ok, so you can't show me where the law says "minor" lies under oath are okay?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on March 19, 2007, 08:19:20 PM
Ok, so you can't show me where the law says "minor" lies under oath are okay?

All your fued needs is a little swearing and it will be just as entertaining as Ozmo and MM69's fued is.  ;D

A couple of "fucking fags" and "bitch" and whatever else MM69 uses and you're good to go.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 08:21:39 PM
All your fued needs is a little swearing and it will be just as entertaining as Ozmo and MM69's fued is.  ;D

A couple of "fucking fags" and "bitch" and whatever else MM69 uses and you're good to go.

BB and I *usually* keep it civil.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 19, 2007, 08:52:14 PM
Ok, so you can't show me where the law says "minor" lies under oath are okay?

You have exceeded your quota of one dumb question per day.  Please try again tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Tre on March 19, 2007, 09:00:44 PM

There are a lot of idiots in Utah, but thankfully, there's some good sense in SLC. 
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:02:51 AM
On CNN.  Accuses Bush of misleading American Public.



If you guys knew anything about Rocky Anderson you wouldn;t give him any more credibility than Rosie...oh wait...Having lived in SLC for 3 years the people can't stand Rocky and are just waiting for his term to end.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 09:00:56 AM
If you guys knew anything about Rocky Anderson you wouldn;t give him any more credibility than Rosie...oh wait...Having lived in SLC for 3 years the people can't stand Rocky and are just waiting for his term to end.

So Rocky and Bush have a lot in common then?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2007, 09:11:21 AM
If you guys knew anything about Rocky Anderson you wouldn;t give him any more credibility than Rosie...oh wait...Having lived in SLC for 3 years the people can't stand Rocky and are just waiting for his term to end.

I wonder what Rocky's approval rating is?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 09:52:27 AM
I wonder what Rocky's approval rating is?

The low approval rating just cements Bush as a great leader. He is strong enough to not let your pussy opinions derail him from the importance of protecting the country
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Tre on March 20, 2007, 10:23:51 AM
The low approval rating just cements Bush as a great leader. He is strong enough to not let your pussy opinions derail him from the importance of protecting the country

Or maybe it means he's done a shitty job. 
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 10:24:43 AM
Or maybe it means he's done a shitty job. 

Nah, doubt it. He's just more man than you ever will be. You would have heard one bad poll and crumbled!
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 20, 2007, 10:27:56 AM
I agree he is a very strong leader.  That is one of the things I like about him.
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 20, 2007, 10:34:45 AM
Oh brother.   ::)  Now there's a "high crime or misdemeanor." 
LOL, just one?  :D
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Dos Equis on March 20, 2007, 10:46:45 AM
LOL, just one?  :D

You only need one.  See Clinton, B.   :)
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2007, 10:50:33 AM
The low approval rating just cements Bush as a great leader. He is strong enough to not let your pussy opinions derail him from the importance of protecting the country

No what i'm asking is Rocky's approval rating,  what is it?
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: Tre on March 20, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
He's just more man than you ever will be.

Sorry, but I don't aspire to be a lying piece of shit.

I may be a piece of shit, but at least I'm honest.  That's more than I can say for the so-called 'man' you worship.  That only proves how low your standards are...which causes me to question just how hot your 'hot wife' really is. 
Title: Re: Mayor of Salt Lake city calls for Bush's impeachment
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 11:55:32 AM
Sorry, but I don't aspire to be a lying piece of shit.

I may be a piece of shit, but at least I'm honest.  That's more than I can say for the so-called 'man' you worship.  That only proves how low your standards are...which causes me to question just how hot your 'hot wife' really is. 


What basis to you have to say he lied?