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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: donrhummy on March 26, 2007, 02:25:42 PM
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I guess it's two questions:
what happened to willett?
do they still give a pro card for winning the Team U?
(http://www.jeffwillet.com/training/index_files/jwcurl.jpg)
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turned pro in 2003, hasn't competed since.
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I think he had no interest in competing as a natty at the pro level. I know he was planning on opening a gym in MI. Should be completed by now.
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awesome physique there :o
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http://www.jeffwillet.com/
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http://www.jeffwillet.com/
Yep, looks like he's the owner of a nice Powerhouse Gym nowadays.
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Yep, looks like he's the owner of a nice Powerhouse Gym nowadays.
looks like a pretty cool gym
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I think he had no interest in competing as a natty at the pro level. I know he was planning on opening a gym in MI. Should be completed by now.
Natty? ::)
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Natty? ::)
Jealous much? ::)
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He is natural, many years of total discipline and favourable genetics = Jeff WIllet.
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Jealous much? ::)
Yeah, you nailed it tough guy. Now go back to jerking off to your Fat Joe poster.
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He is natural, many years of total discipline and favourable genetics = Jeff WIllet.
His conditioning is crazy, I don't know much about him, he looks like he may have dabbled in some drugs, but if he hasn't that's awesome.
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Yeah, you nailed it tough guy. Now go back to jerking off to your Fat Joe poster.
Thanks for acknowledging my toughness. ;)
But why the Fat Joe reference? Did he accept your blowjob offer and treat you like a groupie? Did he explode in your mouth without warning? I bet you hated that. :-\
Jealousy is a bitch emotion, so I would expect nothing less from a f@ggot like you.
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I believe he owns a gym in Adrian, Michigan. I think it does quite well.
I don't think he has any desire to compete anytime soon.
He is well known around the area for his insane level of dedication and dilligence with his diet. He worked for his conditioning, I can tell you that.
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Thanks for acknowledging my toughness. ;)
But why the Fat Joe reference? Did he accept your blowjob offer and treat you like a groupie? Did he explode in your mouth without warning? I bet you hated that. :-\
Jealousy is a bitch emotion, so I would expect nothing less from a f@ggot like you.
Is that supposed to make any sort of sense? The Fat Joe reference is in your avatar meatball.
Guy has a great physique, so good almost questionable, jealousy didn't enter into it.
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Is that supposed to make any sort of sense? The Fat Joe reference is in your avatar meatball.
Guy has a great physique, so good almost questionable, jealousy didn't enter into it.
I know "the reference", dumbass. I'm from the Bronx and proud of it. Maybe the reason my post was incomprehensible to you is because reading is f-u-n-d-a-m-e-n-t-a-l. Try "Hooked On Phonics" for adults. ;)
Willet say's he's natural, and you react with a rolling of the eyes. Obvious monster jealousy due to your inferior and pathetic acheivements in the gym.
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He is natural, many years of total discipline and favourable genetics = Jeff WIllet.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa
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Check out his 2003 Training/Nutrition Journal at AST website. Pure dedication
http://ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/RoadTo2003/DailyJournal.asp?display=training&jid=25
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He is natural, many years of total discipline and favourable genetics = Jeff WIllet.
PLease God forgive his Innocence
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Yet another waste of that pro card. Why does the ifbb give one to the team u?
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I know "the reference", dumbass. I'm from the Bronx and proud of it. Maybe the reason my post was incomprehensible to you is because reading is f-u-n-d-a-m-e-n-t-a-l. Try "Hooked On Phonics" for adults. ;)
Willet say's he's natural, and you react with a rolling of the eyes. Obvious monster jealousy due to your inferior and pathetic acheivements in the gym.
Oh, so now I can't read? Ok, and this post in reference to your first response clarifies it?
My accomplishments ... do you know what they are? I am over the hill now (33), don't train like I used to, but my biggest one is owning a club.
Willett is clearly on shit, its not a knock against you or him. I personally think it is great that he can take shit and look that good. It is obvious you took the short bus to school, now run along, I think your mommy is burning yout TV dinner.
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Oh, so now I can't read? Ok, and this post in reference to your first response clarifies it?
My accomplishments ... do you know what they are? I am over the hill now (33), don't train like I used to, but my biggest one is owning a club.
Willett is clearly on shit, its not a knock against you or him. I personally think it is great that he can take shit and look that good. It is obvious you took the short bus to school, now run along, I think your mommy is burning yout TV dinner.
What a weak comeback, you little f@ggot.
Wow, you owned a "club". ::) You know how many friends I got in the niteclub business in NYC? I pulled some duckets as part owner at one time. That shit don't impress me muthafucka.
You're 33...I'm older than you and I'm in the best shape of my life. I likely make more money than you too, but money doesn't make a man. That comes from your balls and his word. You could make $20K a year and earn my respect if you're a stand up guy takes care of his family and looks after his parents.
You are jealous of Jeff's natural status and refuse to acknowledge it. If your reading comprehension is that poor, perhaps you should have invested in an education instead of a "club". I bet you know all about the "short bus", since that was your childhood experience.
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What a weak comeback, you little f@ggot.
Wow, you owned a "club". ::) You know how many friends I got in the niteclub business in NYC? I pulled some duckets as part owner at one time. That shit don't impress me muthafucka.
You're 33...I'm older than you and I'm in the best shape of my life. I likely make more money than you too, but money doesn't make a man. That comes from your balls and his word. You could make $20K a year and earn my respect if you're a stand up guy takes care of his family and looks after his parents.
You are jealous of Jeff's natural status and refuse to acknowledge it. If your reading comprehension is that poor, perhaps you should have invested in an education instead of a "club". I bet you know all about the "short bus", since that was your childhood experience.
I own a health club, considering that is the subject matter we were talking about, I graduated with a four year degree. Really not trying to impress you, glad you are in great shape man, way to go (seriously), but your opinion means nothing to me. Willett is impressive, but he is not natural, sorry to say it man, I can see it bothers you, but really I don't care if he is or isn't, he looks better than I do. It is not jealousy, it is called the truth.
Here's a pointer, when you speak in ebonics people automatically assume you aren't intelligent.
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Thanks for uselessly hijacking the thread you two. >:(
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he is not natty anymore...
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I own a health club, considering that is the subject matter we were talking about, I graduated with a four year degree. Really not trying to impress you, glad you are in great shape man, way to go (seriously), but your opinion means nothing to me. Willett is impressive, but he is not natural, sorry to say it man, I can see it bothers you, but really I don't care if he is or isn't, he looks better than I do. It is not jealousy, it is called the truth.
Here's a pointer, when you speak in ebonics people automatically assume you aren't intelligent.
Congratulations on owning a health club. Nobody gives a fuck.
I write how I choose to write and it gets my point across. This is a message board, not english lit class. The substance of your posts suggests you got your "four year degree" from a Cracker Jack box. At least I earned mine.
Until you offer the evidence proving that Jeff is not natural you are as jealous as the day is long.
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Check out his 2003 Training/Nutrition Journal at AST website. Pure dedication
http://ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/RoadTo2003/DailyJournal.asp?display=training&jid=25
awsome journal, this guy hits it hard and heavy. Really is a cool read and makes me want to give max-ot another shot one day, this guys poundages are insane on some of his movements.
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Congratulations on owning a health club. Nobody gives a fuck.
I write how I choose to write and it gets my point across. This is a message board, not english lit class. The substance of your posts suggests you got your "four year degree" from a Cracker Jack box. At least I earned mine.
Until you offer the evidence proving that Jeff is not natural you are as jealous as the day is long.
The enthusiasm in which you defend the honor of Jeff Willett makes me wonder ... Do you have a masturbatory shrine similar to your Fat Joe temple dedicated to Jeff Willett? I am sure he would be so pleased to know that wannabe Gangsta Rap guy like yourself pleasures himself to action photos of Jeff in the gym. GAY AS THE DAY IS LONG!
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awsome journal, this guy hits it hard and heavy. Really is a cool read and makes me want to give max-ot another shot one day, this guys poundages are insane on some of his movements.
agree!!! im reading this (thanks for the link!!!) and finding it great!
the guy is really focused, a lot like Skip Lacour. Im doing MaxOT for one month and a half and liking the results so far...The first gains are in strenght, but im feeling diference in size as well
his poundages are really impressive
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The enthusiasm in which you defend the honor of Jeff Willett makes me wonder ... Do you have a masturbatory shrine similar to your Fat Joe temple dedicated to Jeff Willett? I am sure he would be so pleased to know that wannabe Gangsta Rap guy like yourself pleasures himself to action photos of Jeff in the gym. GAY AS THE DAY IS LONG!
Why the attacks on rap music, mang? I didn't attack Barry Manilow in this thread did I? We all know you like his music playing softly in the background when you have your lover's salty balls in your mouth. The fact that your latest post went the gay route seems to show that you are ready to come out of the closet. Go for it, baby. Blast your Celine Dion with pride, put on your rainbow pendant and tell the world you're gay and proud! :-*
I'm still waiting for your facts on Willet's lies about being natural...
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Why the attacks on rap music, mang? I didn't attack Barry Manilow in this thread did I? We all know you like his music playing softly in the background when you have your lover's salty balls in your mouth. The fact that your latest post went the gay route seems to show that you are ready to come out of the closet. Go for it, baby. Blast your Celine Dion with pride, put on your rainbow pendant and tell the world you're gay and proud! :-*
I'm still waiting for your facts on Willet's lies about being natural...
Where are the facts that he's not?
Man, seriously if he is a friend of yours, or your favorite bodybuilder, sorry that I may have offended you. But I just go by what my eyes tell me. A guy that finished fourth in his class at the Nationals this year works out at one of my gyms, he runs a lot of shit, he looks great, I am happy that he is successful. Willett looks better than him.
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Congratulations on owning a health club. Nobody gives a fuck.
I write how I choose to write and it gets my point across. This is a message board, not english lit class. The substance of your posts suggests you got your "four year degree" from a Cracker Jack box. At least I earned mine.
Until you offer the evidence proving that Jeff is not natural you are as jealous as the day is long.
Benny from the bronx. Do you train in the bronx also? No disrespect but "Until you offer evidence proving Jeff is natural you are jealous as the day is long" is a pretty dumb comment. By those standards Ronnie, Jay and most of the top bb'ers in the world are natural also.
I don't think jealousy has anything to do with it. Myself and anyone else who's involved in bodybuilding can look at his physique and see that he's not natural. I don't care if someone is or not. I have alot of resect for both. I do think it's very unfair that a majority of natural competitors who win natural shows are not natural and take a trophy from someone who rightfully deserves it.
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Where are the facts that he's not?
Man, seriously if he is a friend of yours, or your favorite bodybuilder, sorry that I may have offended you. But I just go by what my eyes tell me. A guy that finished fourth in his class at the Nationals this year works out at one of my gyms, he runs a lot of shit, he looks great, I am happy that he is successful. Willett looks better than him.
He's not a friend, and I don't have a favorite bodybuilder.
Your eyes can deceive you, brother. Jeff has always stated he is natural, and you are calling him a liar. I just want to know if you have ANY evidence to support your belief he is a liar and a fraud...besides your eyes. Until then, you come across as a man as JEALOUS AS THE DAY IS LONG.
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He's not a friend, and I don't have a favorite bodybuilder.
Your eyes can deceive you, brother. Jeff has always stated he is natural, and you are calling him a liar. I just want to know if you have ANY evidence to support your belief he is a liar and a fraud...besides your eyes. Until then, you come across as a man as JEALOUS AS THE DAY IS LONG.
So when Gustavo Badell claims, "All natural baby", in his DVD, and I call bullshit, it is out of jealousy?
Poll the rest of the board, you'll get your answer.
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So when Gustavo Badell claims, "All natural baby", in his DVD, and I call bullshit, it is out of jealousy?
Poll the rest of the board, you'll get your answer.
We're not talking about Gus Badell...we're talking about Jeff Willett. A guy who has consistently stated he is natural for his whole career as far as I know. Not a throwaway line like Badell made.
Again...where is your evidence that he is otherwise? I'll take anything besides your disapproving eyes. I assume you feel the same towards Derik Farnsworth and Skip Lacour as well?
Fuck a getbig poll...we all know this board is full of fat haters who don't even work out. You'd just get assurances to back up your jealousy and you know it. That's why you made the suggestion.
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So when Gustavo Badell claims, "All natural baby", in his DVD, and I call bullshit, it is out of jealousy?
Poll the rest of the board, you'll get your answer.
Natural my ass! no amount of hardcore training, dieting and dedication will build you a body like that, if that were the case then the natural bodybuilding organizations wouldn't have string -beans for competitors.
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Benny from the bronx. Do you train in the bronx also? No disrespect but "Until you offer evidence proving Jeff is natural you are jealous as the day is long" is a pretty dumb comment. By those standards Ronnie, Jay and most of the top bb'ers in the world are natural also.
I don't think jealousy has anything to do with it. Myself and anyone else who's involved in bodybuilding can look at his physique and see that he's not natural. I don't care if someone is or not. I have alot of resect for both. I do think it's very unfair that a majority of natural competitors who win natural shows are not natural and take a trophy from someone who rightfully deserves it.
I have no reason to believe Jeff isn't natural. Anyone who has spent more than a minute talking to him would get a sense that he really is natural. He doesn't strike me as a liar, and he isn't a large man.
If you need AAS to get into contest shape, something is wrong. He has an incredible work ethic from everything I've seen, and everyone I've talked to.
I believe that his insistence in not using AAS is a large reason he is no longer competing.
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I have no reason to believe Jeff isn't natural. Anyone who has spent more than a minute talking to him would get a sense that he really is natural. He doesn't strike me as a liar, and he isn't a large man.
If you need AAS to get into contest shape, something is wrong. He has an incredible work ethic from everything I've seen, and everyone I've talked to.
I believe that his insistence in not using AAS is a large reason he is no longer competing.
Care to respond, BigSexy50? Or are you only adept at hurling weak insults at me in defense of your monster jealousy?
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I have no reason to believe Jeff isn't natural. Anyone who has spent more than a minute talking to him would get a sense that he really is natural. He doesn't strike me as a liar, and he isn't a large man.
If you need AAS to get into contest shape, something is wrong. He has an incredible work ethic from everything I've seen, and everyone I've talked to.
I believe that his insistence in not using AAS is a large reason he is no longer competing.
I know when he won the team universe he had a whole team at AST working with pretty much every aspect of his training and dieting. From what I remember they all had doctorite's in sports nutrition or exercise physiology.
I don't know the guy but it seems to me if you have that kinda team helping you with everything you do it puts you at a great advantage plus I'm pretty sure he was making a decent living with AST so he kinda had all his bases covered.
I know people gave me shit when I mentioned this stuff before but it's gotta count for something.
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Care to respond, BigSexy50? Or are you only adept at hurling weak insults at me in defense of your monster jealousy?
Don't be upset BigSexy 50 is just trying to help you. It is time now to wake up....it is morning already...If you have minimum understanding of BB you be able to observe muscle density, dryness...among other factor. Say that you are natural is just a joke...That what Giambi, Bonds, Lance....all say sure ....again time to wake up.
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Don't be upset BigSexy 50 is just trying to help you. It is time now to wake up....it is morning already...If you have minimum understanding of BB you be able to observe muscle density, dryness...among other factor. Say that you are natural is just a joke...That what Giambi, Bonds, Lance....all say sure ....again time to wake up.
I've been in this game longer than "BigSexy50", so he can't teach me shit, numbnuts. Take his salty balls out of your mouth. And try responding to Troponin not me next time, genius. >:(
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I've been in this game longer than "BigSexy50", so he can't teach me shit, numbnuts. Take his salty balls out of your mouth. And try responding to Troponin not me next time, genius. >:(
It is an enormous range of performance enhancing substances that are not necessary Steroids. Clen, anti-estrogens,T-3 do you Know if he is using any ...The word natural is extremely vague. Making such assumptian seems Innocence
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It is an enormous range of performance enhancing substances that are not necessary Steroids. Clen, anti-estrogens,T-3 do you Know if he is using any ...The word natural is extremely vague. Making such assumptian seems Innocence
I know more about the subjects mentioned than you do, Sparky. ;)
Address your comments to Troponin from here on out, numbnuts. I am done with you.
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Here are a few shots from the 2003 TU he won the pro card.
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Here are a few shots from the 2003 TU he won the pro card.
Anyone that has been "in the game" should realize that this kind of developement can not be achieved by natural means alone. His hormone profile is not on par with even a national competitor, but it is the show or conditioning drugs that I believe he uses. Clen, T3, Anti-E's, etc ... to achieve his dryness. The guy trains hard, I have respect for anyone that can look as good as he does. The fact of the matter is just because he denies drug use does not mean he is telling the truth. Barry Bonds denies using PEDs, do you believe him?
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I think he had no interest in competing as a natty at the pro level. I know he was planning on opening a gym in MI. Should be completed by now.
he is not natural. ::)
not even close
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his thin neck...could be a sign of "lower" (relative term") dosages tho.
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I know more about the subjects mentioned than you do, Sparky. ;)
Address your comments to Troponin from here on out, numbnuts. I am done with you.
Then map out for us a pre-contest drug regimine that you would follow?
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i'm not saying it is not possible he can be clean ,conditioning is great but not super dried like a a high level amateur or pro using.his neck/trap tie in could be where he looses his size when dieting,most users don't even need to shrug they get drug traps from doing just back movement's.he dosen't have that look ,but still i won't say yes or no .it's his buissness and he is a very prepared and good bber.
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Benny from the bronx. Do you train in the bronx also? No disrespect but "Until you offer evidence proving Jeff is natural you are jealous as the day is long" is a pretty dumb comment. By those standards Ronnie, Jay and most of the top bb'ers in the world are natural also.
I don't think jealousy has anything to do with it. Myself and anyone else who's involved in bodybuilding can look at his physique and see that he's not natural. I don't care if someone is or not. I have alot of resect for both. I do think it's very unfair that a majority of natural competitors who win natural shows are not natural and take a trophy from someone who rightfully deserves it.
Hi Loser ;D
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Willet is natural. gh15's definition of natural... which is basically "not-as-jacked"...
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Exactly
These guys are 'natural' because they do not get caught on drug tests, not because there has never been a not-natural substance in their body
You have to be really naive to believe all this, look at 99% of the field at natural competitions, then put lacour&willet and some others who claim to be natural as they come next to them
Do you really believe that huge DISCREPANCY is caused by 'genetics' and 'hard(er) work' only ?
Kind of insulting to those other competitors
Now I agree, we have NO proof whatsoever for this so this is ALL hypothetical
But I refuse to believe the difference between those guys and all the rest of the field is only because of those two factors
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Exactly
These guys are 'natural' because they do not get caught on drug tests, not because there has never been a not-natural substance in their body
You have to be really naive to believe all this, look at 99% of the field at natural competitions, then put lacour&willet and some others who claim to be natural as they come next to them
Do you really believe that huge DISCREPANCY is caused by 'genetics' and 'hard(er) work' only ?
Kind of insulting to those other competitors
Now I agree, we have NO proof whatsoever for this so this is ALL hypothetical
But I refuse to believe the difference between those guys and all the rest of the field is only because of those two factors
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Willet is natural. gh15's definition of natural... which is basically "not-as-jacked"...
Haterade
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alot of his muscle was built when pro hormones were legal and the team u did not ban them like other natural federations. I was carrying 25 lbs more muscle back then then I do now, and theres no way in hell i can ever come close to what i did without pro hormones or the real shit... so I think willet at 190 in contest shape is ummmm easilly achievable back then with what was available!
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he is not natural. ::)
not even close
haha its even funny you guys think he is natural.. all "MAX-OT" you say? ::)
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haha its even funny you guys think he is natural.. all "MAX-OT" you say? ::)
learn to comprehend. im saying his not natural.
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Haterade
Yes, Benny, I'm very jealous...Jeff Willet is my hero. ::)
Come on, no way that guy is natural, no way LaCour is/was nattie. Dont even start with this b.s. : "...he built physique with PH's when they were legal..."
Catch a wake-up guys.
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learn to comprehend. im saying his not natural.
i was quoting you for truth ::)
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Yes, Benny, I'm very jealous...Jeff Willet is my hero. ::)
Come on, no way that guy is natural, no way LaCour is/was nattie. Dont even start with this b.s. : "...he built physique with PH's when they were legal..."
Catch a wake-up guys.
You sip Haterade daily whether Willet is your "hero" or not. ::) Who gives a fuck who your hero is? Grownups shouldn't have heroes anyway. You know nothing of the "supplements" Willet takes...only speculation.
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i was quoting you for truth ::)
well it didnt fit with your statement..you should have quoted someone who thought he wasnt natural. dont try to backtrack, BITCH
;)
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natural = free of detectable drugs at the time the test is administered
hope that helps.
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natural = free of detectable drugs at the time the test is administered
hope that helps.
And that is all that matters. Hope THAT fact helps. ;)
It should also be noted when an individual has passed different tests by more than one organization on more than one occasion.
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natural = free of detectable drugs at the time the test is administered
hope that helps.
PERFECT-A-MUNDO !!!
Finally a post that naild it in the head in just one simple line! Good job. When you know the game you're playing there's no need to be prolix. You can hit it right with just one good swing!! ;)