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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: Special Ed on March 29, 2007, 07:55:14 AM
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As posted late last night on the Titus-Ryan board by TK (which most of us never look at), it appears that Kelly may be about to flip on Craig.
BODYBUILDER CASE: Battered wife issue raised
Attorneys dispute whether Ryan still backs husband
By GLENN PUIT
REVIEW-JOURNAL
Kelly Ryan's lawyer said Tuesday that the national fitness champion is a battered woman, and he plans to tell a jury that Ryan was under the control of her husband, bodybuilder Craig Titus, when the couple's personal assistant turned up dead in the desert.
Attorney Greg Denue said he is now seeking a court order to have Ryan examined by an expert on battered woman syndrome, and he also plans to argue at Ryan and Titus' murder trial that Ryan did whatever Titus wanted her to do because she was an abused spouse.
"She (Ryan) agrees with my defense," Denue said. "Her actions were done under the duress of Craig Titus, and she's finally starting to see the light."
Denue also announced Tuesday he's seeking to have Ryan tried separately from Titus, and he wants to have Titus' lawyer, Marc Saggese, kicked off the high-profile murder case for visiting Ryan at the Clark County Detention Center even though he's not Ryan's attorney.
"His visits have made him a witness in this case," Denue said.
But an attorney seeking to replace Denue as Ryan's attorney said Denue is wrong, and that Ryan has no interest in blaming her husband for the fate of their personal assistant, Melissa James.
"That is completely inconsistent with what I've heard from her," Michael Cristalli said. "It's not true."
The battered woman allegations surfaced Tuesday amid a battle over which lawyer will represent Ryan.
Ryan had a thriving career as one of the world's top women's fitness athletes. Titus is a nationally known bodybuilder who competed in the Mr. Olympia contest. The husband and wife are accused of killing James in December 2005 at the couple's posh southwest Las Vegas home, then setting James' remains ablaze in the desert off State Route 160.
Titus and Ryan have denied killing James.
The fitness stars told police they found James dead of a drug overdose in their home, and instead of simply reporting the overdose to the police, they panicked and set James' body on fire to avoid negative publicity.
Last month, it seemed as if Denue was being sacked as Ryan's defense attorney in favor of Cristalli. It would have been the second time since Ryan's arrest that she has fired her attorney.
However, before Denue was ousted, it was learned that his proposed replacement was Cristalli, the partner of Titus' defense attorney, Saggese.
Denue has since claimed that Titus, through Saggese, is seeking to control his wife's legal defense. Specifically, after Cristalli sought to represent Ryan, Cristalli and Saggese said Ryan and Titus had signed a joint defense agreement, meaning they had agreed to pursue a similar defense strategy at trial.
District Judge Jackie Glass, however, ruled that Cristalli would not be allowed to represent Ryan, saying having two law firm partners representing co-defendants in the same murder case presented a conflict of interest.
Cristalli and Saggese are now appealing Glass' decision to the Nevada Supreme Court, saying it is ultimately Ryan's choice as to who will represent her.
Denue said Tuesday it is true that Ryan originally wanted to fire him, but she is now having second thoughts. Instead, Ryan wants to leave it up to the Nevada Supreme Court as to who will represent her.
"She wants it to play out in front of the Supreme Court, and she believes whatever happens is God's will," Denue said.
Denue on Tuesday filed the motions seeking to have Ryan tried separately from Titus and to have Saggese tossed off the case.
"Craig Titus found the sock puppet lawyer he has been searching for in Marc Saggese," Denue wrote in the motion. "When three of this town's top lawyers ... refused to dance to Titus' tune, he choreographed their removal. Now, because Denue likewise refuses to dance the Titus two-step, he too is targeted for legal amputation by Titus and his errand boy, Saggese."
Denue wrote that Saggese is seeking to have Ryan "sacrificed at the altar of Craig Titus" and that when Glass appointed veteran attorney William Terry to meet with Ryan, Terry concluded the joint defense agreement was "essentially an unenforceable contract."
Saggese on Tuesday night countered that Denue is attacking him because Denue doesn't want to be taken off the high-profile case, and that Denue's problems with Ryan resulted from the attorney never visiting with Ryan at the Clark County Detention Center.
"I feel sorry for him," Saggese said of Denue. "It's an act of desperation. It's not my fault he didn't have the competence to represent her. Kelly Ryan literally cried to me in desperation to have a lawyer really represent her. He is lashing out at me because of his shortcomings as an attorney. If he was a good lawyer, he'd be her lawyer."
Saggese also confirmed Tuesday that Clark County prosecutor Robert Daskas has given him notice that he plans to call Saggese as a witness in the case, but Saggese said he will never testify in the Titus-Ryan trial.
"I think Denue conspired with Daskas to eliminate me from the case," Saggese said. "I would never practice law for a second, ever again, for the rest of my life, if I was in some way forced to testify against Kelly Ryan or Craig Titus. I would give up all I have or ever will have to stand by the attorney-client privilege. No person, no entity, and no agency could ever get me to testify against my client."
Because of the unresolved dispute over who will be Ryan's lawyer, Glass canceled Titus and Ryan's previously scheduled April trial date. A new trial date was not set.
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Bye Bye Craigers - atleast you made her lick her own sh it off your c ock :D
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sounds like a good plan, if i was her attorney i'd suggest the same thing.
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I assume he was the one behind it, and she should roll over on his ass.
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That it's taken this long's a good measure of his control over her.
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she shouldve sung like a canary a long time ago
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They're both losers. She is just as guilty as he is for not reporting it. Aiding & abedding. For all we know she probably was the one who torched the body. He is a class "A" imbecile.
PB
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that's fcuk up. whatever happened to "till death do us part"
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that's fcuk up. whatever happened to "till death do us part"
A death sentence?
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that's fcuk up. whatever happened to "till death do us part"
were you the guy from cell no. 909 who jacked off titus?
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Ed, May I express a thought? I so rarely get one. You're no Denny Crane.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137618.0
Denny Crane, legal genius.
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Ed, May I express a thought? I so rarely get one. You're no Denny Crane.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137618.0
Denny Crane, legal genius.
I just found out who Denny Crane is. I don't watch 'Boston Legal' because it's a carryover from 'The Practice' and that show was about as realistic as a reality show. But I am a huge William "Look at those Lats" Shatner fan.
Here is a lost Shatner clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq4K8LTgZHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq4K8LTgZHk)
Special "Scotty" Ed
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I just found out who Denny Crane is. I don't watch 'Boston Legal' because it's a carryover from 'The Practice' and that show was about as realistic as a reality show. But I am a huge William "Look at those Lats" Shatner fan.
You'll do anything to get me into bed.
I have an erection. That's a good sign. I'm ready to go to trial. Lock and load.
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that's fcuk up. whatever happened to "till death do us part"
It is. Melissa James is DEAD. Every man for themselves. Ryan needs to become a stool pigeon.
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As shitty as this may sound...who here would actually do any different if you were in Kelly's shoes? This sounds like a pretty open and shut case, and they're looking at life in prison if not the death sentence. The battered wife bullshit is her only angle to get some sort of lesser sentence.
As far as them being married, in love, and death till us part bullshit...let's get serious. They fucking murdered someone!!! Does anyone think that any of their vows of marriage mean anything when they both conspire to kill someone??
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even if she was a battered wife she still deserves a very stiff sentence, I say life sentence
daddy warned her about craig
E
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even if she was a battered wife she still deserves a very stiff sentence, I say life sentence
daddy warned her about craig
E
HURL GARBALDO!!!!!!
How are you doing bozo?
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even if she was a battered wife she still deserves a very stiff sentence, I say life sentence
daddy warned her about craig
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wazz up hurl gurbaldo ::)..have you seen redline yet? ::)
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HURL GARBALDO!!!!!!
How are you doing bozo?
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha man i love that name 'hurl gurlbaldo'hahahaahah
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are you two the same because you both constantly follow me with the "wazzup hurl garbaldo" line ???
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are you two the same because you both constantly follow me with the "wazzup hurl garbaldo" line ???
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wazz up hurl gurlbaldo ::)
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It is. Melissa James is DEAD. Every man for themselves. Ryan needs to become a stool pigeon.
lol....it's gonna be interesting to see if these two will turn against each other, shit, when everything is set and done, I think Titus will be the one at the end of the rope.
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are you two the same because you both constantly follow me with the "wazzup hurl garbaldo" line ???
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Debussey invented the name.
Sushant Kapur/The Shadow = copycat.
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I wonder if he'll follow me for the next 3 years, right soldat ;)
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Debussey invented the name.
Sushant Kapur/The Shadow = copycat.
i love that name its so funny when you say 'wazz up hurl gurlbaldo' over and over again ;D ;D ;D
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If Kelly testifies against Titus, the prosecutor will probably let her plead to Manslaughter-1 with a sentence recommendation. [The threat of her playing the battered-woman wild card will make them likelier to accept the deal.] So she won't have to celebrate her 50th birthday in prison.
But any way you slice it, Titus is fucked. If he's lucky, they'll let him plead to Murder-2 and serve 25-to-life.
Dumb bastid. >:(
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hahahahaha I wonder how she'll do in the spring pro show circuit.
Mr GetBig 2 - two days left to enter! (http://www.getanabolics.com/contests-i-10.html)
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Now that Titus knows she is probably going to roll on him...Can't he do the same thing? He supposedly was banging this girl behind Kellys back...And Im sure their are some people who can be subpoenaed that knew Craig was banging her...
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battered wife?? get the f--- outta here. She was with the guy every day, had business' with the guy, had party's with him and obviously got along well with him when around people...Obviously most relationships have fights but battered wife stuff is a cop out big time.
She is the person that actually purchased the stuff at the store...she is the person that spoke to her friend after and NEVER, I believe, blamed Craig for the crime 100%.
They probably are both guilty and if so should simply both get life or whatever they do in nevada. The battered wife thing would hardly ever work if I'm on the jury.
For instance the guy Steinberg that killed his adopted kid years ago in NYC, beat her for years then the women gets off with the battered wife thing. If your husband is beating your kid for years, breaking bones you better say something or you should go down the same way as far as I'm concerned.
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But hey were both sooooooooo nice..........
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sounds like a good plan, if i was her attorney i'd suggest the same thing.
You would do fu*kall, your a FAT 34 yr old forum junky and if you had a clue you would get a job and lose 30kg of Useless fat by chopping your head off.
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You would do fu*kall, your a FAT 34 yr old forum junky and if you had a clue you would get a job and lose 30kg of Useless fat by chopping your head off.
meltdown
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meltdown
So basically your his fat bum buddy who craves the tang of ass in their mouth
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"ASS TANG....a part of the NASA space program for over 40 years."
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This thread confuses me. Everybody knows they are both going to walk.
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Tommy, why do you think that they are going to walk?
Insufficient evidence?
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I highly doubt they'll walk on the murder charges. One of them may eventually get a sweet deal, but if they continue firing lawyers, and insisting one being tried together, both will go down for the loooong haul.
They'll never walk from the secondary charges the state is sitting on. They have enough to send both away for about 10-15 years. The brutal part about these two idiots is that to prove their innocent, they have to admit to doing numerous other felonies. ie. Arson, indecency to a corpse, failure to report a serious crime, all sorts of stuff.
Don't expect to be seeing these dopes anytime soon.
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Tommy is just trying to be "ironic" err....I dunno.... funny? Ummm...sarcastic? Ummm...silly?
At least I'm hoping he doesn't buy that hype. ???
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Battered wife syndrome....she was found at a spa while she was getting her nails done and she knew she had helped commit murder.....I'm sorry, i feel nothing for her and that thing she was married to....if not death penalty....then life in the slammer
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that's fcuk up. whatever happened to "till death do us part"
WELL SOME PORE BROADS DEATH DID THEM APART THATS FOR SURE.. I CANT BELIEVE SHE HASN'T SANG LIKE A BIRD EITHER!! I KNOW IM ALITTLE LATE ON THE ISSUE..
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battered wife?? get the f--- outta here. She was with the guy every day, had business' with the guy, had party's with him and obviously got along well with him when around people...Obviously most relationships have fights but battered wife stuff is a cop out big time.
She is the person that actually purchased the stuff at the store...she is the person that spoke to her friend after and NEVER, I believe, blamed Craig for the crime 100%.
They probably are both guilty and if so should simply both get life or whatever they do in nevada. The battered wife thing would hardly ever work if I'm on the jury.
For instance the guy Steinberg that killed his adopted kid years ago in NYC, beat her for years then the women gets off with the battered wife thing. If your husband is beating your kid for years, breaking bones you better say something or you should go down the same way as far as I'm concerned.
...and don't forget about her alleged missing car that was found torched with a body in it....guilty guilty guilty. I still think she did the unthinkable; and Craig was there to help her rid of the body. He was having an affair with the girl; why would he kill her, and what was his motive to kill her? I'm still waiting for CSI to have a similar episode on this muscle and murder in Las Vegas.
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Motive: James had stolen Kelly's ID online & was using Kelly's credit cards.
Motive: Titus is a sociopath, & a stupid one at that. Burning a body in a car visible from the freeway? Excuse me?
Defense: Kelly can easily plead battered & Stockholm syndrome. Chad Nicholls said that he & his wife had dinner with Titus-Kelly at the USA the summer before & every time Kelly started to say something, she looked over at Titus for his approval before she spoke.
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True dat. Kelly was that way from the start - and probably got worse.