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Title: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 07:25:59 AM
well well well.  Some of you get yo foots out yo mouths!

A released Royal Navy crew member said today that the captured Britons were blindfolded and faced constant psychological pressure while held in Iran
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 06, 2007, 07:32:39 AM
the captured Britons were blindfolded and faced constant psychological pressure while held in Iran

(http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/images/hooded-prisoner-abu-ghraib-.jpg)
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: headhuntersix on April 06, 2007, 07:34:36 AM
OH no..that horrible terrorits had to wear a bag over his head..how terrible.  ::)
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 07:38:10 AM
The group had been presented with two options, said Lt. Carman: to admit having strayed into Iranian waters or face up to seven years in prison in Iran.

Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 06, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
OH no..that horrible terrorits had to wear a bag over his head..how terrible.  ::)

Tell it to Ye Olde Rooster. He's the one beating his breast about bagged heads.  :)
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 07:40:00 AM
(http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/images/hooded-prisoner-abu-ghraib-.jpg)


Apparently you are a democrat, for the enemy, against our troops. 
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 07:40:55 AM
(http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/images/hooded-prisoner-abu-ghraib-.jpg)


I'd love to ram a broomstick up that fucks ass, then squeeze off a round and turn his head to red mist.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 07:47:19 AM
The group had been presented with two options, said Lt. Carman: to admit having strayed into Iranian waters or face up to seven years in prison in Iran.

Do you think they did the right thing by spilling their guts on TV?

Or did they do the cowardice thing, and the selfish thing, by speaking when their military code requires they not speak?
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 07:54:17 AM
Do you think they did the right thing by spilling their guts on TV?

Or did they do the cowardice thing, and the selfish thing, by speaking when their military code requires they not speak?

They did the right thing, anybody with an iq over 10 knew they were coerced into saying that shit.  I pictured Iranians with guns drawn on them or knifes in hand making slitting motions across their necks just off camera.   So hell ya, save yo life, everyone knew it was bullshit.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: headhuntersix on April 06, 2007, 07:57:54 AM
Well I'm not sure what i would have done but guys like John Mcain spent 7 years in prison without saying shit...I think u could be polite and say less.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 08:03:56 AM
Well I'm not sure what i would have done but guys like John Mcain spent 7 years in prison without saying shit...I think u could be polite and say less.

wait a second - you're in the military.

mm69 has said on here that if you give up any info, you will be tried and hanged as a traitor when you return.

hh6, why would you even doubt what you'd do?  mm69 is correct, isn't he?
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 06, 2007, 08:06:59 AM
mm69 has said on here that if you give up any info, you will be tried and hanged as a traitor when you return.

Is the military that MM is in the Revolutionary Army?  :)

When was the last American military execution performed by hanging?
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:07:21 AM
wait a second - you're in the military.

mm69 has said on here that if you give up any info, you will be tried and hanged as a traitor when you return.

hh6, why would you even doubt what you'd do?  mm69 is correct, isn't he?

No, you would not be hung.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 08:09:54 AM
No, you would not be hung.


military muscle 69 said 'executed'.

So maybe it's firing squad.

But he's in the military and he said it was so.  I know he's made multiple mistakes about oil, the middle east, the saud/bush releations, etc, but I doubt he would be so dead wrong about something directly related to his job.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:12:02 AM
wait a second - you're in the military.

mm69 has said on here that if you give up any info, you will be tried and hanged as a traitor when you return.

hh6, why would you even doubt what you'd do?  mm69 is correct, isn't he?

um.....what info did they give up?  thats news to me.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 08:13:33 AM
um.....what info did they give up?  thats news to me.

They just admitted on CNN to a "controlled release of non-operational mission information"

A lot more than name, rank, serial and DOB.

mm69 said they can be executed for this in the USA.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
They just admitted on CNN to a "controlled release of non-operational mission information"

A lot more than name, rank, serial and DOB.

mm69 said they can be executed for this in the USA.

Like I said, its not like it was not known it was either spout the crap iran had written on paper for them to spout or off with their heads.  Its just a game.   Did anyone believe the british troops when they said they were in iranian waters?  um, naw.
I'm sure if you gave troop locations out, you would be imprisoned and should be.  Thats why Geraldo should be in prison.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: militarymuscle69 on April 06, 2007, 08:39:07 AM
Article 5 of the code of conduct

When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause



A POW must resist, avoid, or evade, even when physically and mentally coerced, all enemy efforts to secure statements or actions that may further the enemy's cause.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:41:18 AM
Article 5 of the code of conduct

When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause



A POW must resist, avoid, or evade, even when physically and mentally coerced, all enemy efforts to secure statements or actions that may further the enemy's cause.

Nothing will happen to them negative.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 08:41:57 AM
A POW must resist, avoid, or evade, even when physically and mentally coerced, all enemy efforts to secure statements or actions that may further the enemy's cause.

these 15 certainly made Iran look better in the eyes of the world, there is no denying that.

They should have demanded their uniforms.  They should have not smiled and laughed thru the press conference.  They shouldn't have read that crap over the air.  And they did it all based upon threat of a prison sentence?  Soldiers are whipped for months and don't talk.  These people get their cheesecake withheld for a half hour and they're turning over the keys to the palace.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:44:20 AM
these 15 certainly made Iran look better in the eyes of the world, there is no denying that.

They should have demanded their uniforms.  They should have not smiled and laughed thru the press conference.  They shouldn't have read that crap over the air.  And they did it all based upon threat of a prison sentence?  Soldiers are whipped for months and don't talk.  These people get their cheesecake withheld for a half hour and they're turning over the keys to the palace.
So you think someone in the world believe the british troops believed what they were saying.

Must be folks that rode the short bus, anyone with IQ over 10 knows they were forced to read that crap. 

It made Iraq look foolish more than anything, made most folks think 'fuck we DO need to bomb the shit out of them towel headed iranians.'
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: militarymuscle69 on April 06, 2007, 08:45:27 AM
Nothing will happen to them negative.

There not Americans, if they were they would be in hot water
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 06, 2007, 08:46:46 AM
made most folks think 'fuck we DO need to bomb the shit out of them towel headed iranians.

Be patient... you'll get to open that present soon.

In the meantime, maybe you can find some animals to torture to tide you over.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 08:47:49 AM
So you think someone in the world believe the british troops believed what they were saying.

Must be folks that rode the short bus, anyone with IQ over 10 knows they were forced to read that crap. 

It made Iraq look foolish more than anything, made most folks think 'fuck we DO need to bomb the shit out of them towel headed iranians.'

At a time when we're on their borders preparing to invade, the leader of Iran got primetime American TV coverage, smiling and granting freedom to our allies, who were all smiles.

They were able to undermine US war authority by appearing to be kind and gentle - and the brits helped greatly by playing along.

Think about it.  Adhmedijahad got positive airplay in the US this week.  Everyone does know they read what they were told, but at the same time, they were smiling when they didn't have to, and thanking iran for their hospitality.  Spit.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 06, 2007, 08:50:18 AM
Well I'm not sure what i would have done but guys like John Mcain spent 7 years in prison without saying shit...I think u could be polite and say less.
I'm inclined to think the same thing. 
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 06, 2007, 08:51:20 AM
Rambo wouldnt have said shit.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:51:20 AM
At a time when we're on their borders preparing to invade, the leader of Iran got primetime American TV coverage, smiling and granting freedom to our allies, who were all smiles.

They were able to undermine US war authority by appearing to be kind and gentle - and the brits helped greatly by playing along.

Think about it.  Adhmedijahad got positive airplay in the US this week.  Everyone does know they read what they were told, but at the same time, they were smiling when they didn't have to, and thanking iran for their hospitality.  Spit.

i guess we see different things, what i saw is 'hahahaha, look at those chicken shit iranians, scared to fucking death we are gonna attack em so look at the fools playing nice, hahahahaha'
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: militarymuscle69 on April 06, 2007, 08:51:34 AM
At a time when we're on their borders preparing to invade, the leader of Iran got primetime American TV coverage, smiling and granting freedom to our allies, who were all smiles.

They were able to undermine US war authority by appearing to be kind and gentle - and the brits helped greatly by playing along.

Think about it.  Adhmedijahad got positive airplay in the US this week.  Everyone does know they read what they were told, but at the same time, they were smiling when they didn't have to, and thanking iran for their hospitality.  Spit.

He is right rooster, you think people like Rosie, John Stewart, Bill Maher, Cindy Sheehan and Sean Penn won't be running around talking about how humane the Iranians are? And unfortunately people put alot on what they say.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 08:53:23 AM
He is right rooster, you think people like Rosie, John Stewart, Bill Maher, Cindy Sheehan and Sean Penn won't be running around talking about how humane the Iranians are? And unfortunately people put alot on what they say.

Well we know democrats will believe that shit, no way to prevent that.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: militarymuscle69 on April 06, 2007, 08:56:52 AM
Well we know democrats will believe that shit, no way to prevent that.

exactly dude, that is why those Brits kicked us in the balls. They make Iran look like cupcakes...
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2007, 09:00:29 AM
I'm not saying Iran was right.

I'm saying they got a lot of American TV time, at a time when we're about to attack them for somewhat dubious reasons, and it was favorable.

While it was all an act, guess what, most of what the US and UK govts do on TV is an act too.  people know this.

If the US starts cooking Iranian cities this weekend, the image that Americans will have of Iran is NOT that idiot at the UN spewing hatred for israel.  Now, Americans will remember him as the little smiley guy being thanked by our allies.  The average american viewer isn't as politically saavy as most here.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 06, 2007, 09:04:45 AM
I'm not saying Iran was right.

I'm saying they got a lot of American TV time, at a time when we're about to attack them for somewhat dubious reasons, and it was favorable.

While it was all an act, guess what, most of what the US and UK govts do on TV is an act too.  people know this.

If the US starts cooking Iranian cities this weekend, the image that Americans will have of Iran is NOT that idiot at the UN spewing hatred for israel.  Now, Americans will remember him as the little smiley guy being thanked by our allies.  The average american viewer isn't as politically saavy as most here.

Man i hope we don't bomb them this weekend, i'll be watching the masters and i'd hate to have to choose for the masters or watching towelheads get bombed.   i'd be perplexed.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Cavalier22 on April 06, 2007, 09:13:06 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/06/iran.sailors/index.html
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: headhuntersix on April 06, 2007, 10:19:53 AM
Well I can tell u this....I would not have allowed myself to be captured unless it was pretty clear that by resisting i would cause a major shitstorm for the US. I think this may have been the case here. Also i cannot second guess folks who where there in that situation. I would have not made any statements and I would have been polite until it was clear that i was not going home. Then I would have shit in my hand and thrown it at them repeatedly. Made shit puppets......shit castles..basically been a major pain in the ass. Lived u to the code of conduct.....These guys knew they would not be there long term....
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 06, 2007, 10:30:25 AM
Perhaps the fact that this story about how the British troops were maltreated made it real big will serve as a reminder that the media isn't "liberal", ie biased to the left.

-Hedge
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: The Enigma on April 06, 2007, 10:51:44 AM
well well well.  Some of you get yo foots out yo mouths!

A released Royal Navy crew member said today that the captured Britons were blindfolded and faced constant psychological pressure while held in Iran

No waterboarding or torture? UK wimps.  ;)
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: headhuntersix on April 06, 2007, 10:58:34 AM
Nope..i think that would be too complicated....knives and electricity.
Title: Re: British troops treated well by those lovely iranians?
Post by: youandme on April 06, 2007, 12:35:11 PM
Well I'm not sure what i would have done but guys like John Mcain spent 7 years in prison without saying shit...I think u could be polite and say less.

True.