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Title: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 08, 2007, 10:49:12 AM
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Ford President Alan Mulally, right, had to be quick on his feet to make sure President Bush plugged a power cord into the right socket on a Ford hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid.


Credit Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally with saving the leader of the free world from self-immolation.

Mulally told journalists at the New York auto show that he intervened to prevent President Bush from plugging an electrical cord into the hydrogen tank of Ford's hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid at the White House last week. Ford wanted to give the Commander-in-Chief an actual demonstration of the innovative vehicle, so the automaker arranged for an electrical outlet to be installed on the South Lawn and ran a charging cord to the hybrid. However, as Mulally followed Bush out to the car, he noticed someone had left the cord lying at the rear of the vehicle, near the fuel tank.

"I just thought, 'Oh my goodness!' So, I started walking faster, and the President walked faster and he got to the cord before I did. I violated all the protocols. I touched the President. I grabbed his arm and I moved him up to the front," Mulally said. "I wanted the president to make sure he plugged into the electricity, not into the hydrogen This is all off the record, right?"

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/AUTO01/704070338/1148
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: The Enigma on April 09, 2007, 03:58:03 AM
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Ford President Alan Mulally, right, had to be quick on his feet to make sure President Bush plugged a power cord into the right socket on a Ford hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid.


Credit Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally with saving the leader of the free world from self-immolation.

Mulally told journalists at the New York auto show that he intervened to prevent President Bush from plugging an electrical cord into the hydrogen tank of Ford's hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid at the White House last week. Ford wanted to give the Commander-in-Chief an actual demonstration of the innovative vehicle, so the automaker arranged for an electrical outlet to be installed on the South Lawn and ran a charging cord to the hybrid. However, as Mulally followed Bush out to the car, he noticed someone had left the cord lying at the rear of the vehicle, near the fuel tank.

"I just thought, 'Oh my goodness!' So, I started walking faster, and the President walked faster and he got to the cord before I did. I violated all the protocols. I touched the President. I grabbed his arm and I moved him up to the front," Mulally said. "I wanted the president to make sure he plugged into the electricity, not into the hydrogen This is all off the record, right?"

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/AUTO01/704070338/1148

Damn......soooooo close to answering my prayers.  >:(
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 09, 2007, 04:29:31 AM
I have to say: I'm glad to see some hybrid cars and alternative fuel sources coming up in the US.

USA has a big car industry, and if it's not too late, this could perhaps save the US companies.

What needs to be done are a couple of things:

1. Big tax raise on gas.

Make it expensive to ride non-efficient cars. This tax raise would have to be made incrementally, over perhaps a two year period. But get the gas price up to somewhere around $6-8 per gallon. This will make people choose more gas-efficient cars, thus making the car makers to focus on that.

2. Invest in infrastructure like subways, buses, railways and alike.

3. Remove the tax on all gas-efficient cars.



Note: The first suggestion is also the most controversial, as well as most effective. It will make people change from Pick-up trucks to small efficient Hyundai's or the US alternative in no time.

-Hedge
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: muscleforlife on April 09, 2007, 04:42:48 AM
I have to say: I'm glad to see some hybrid cars and alternative fuel sources coming up in the US.

USA has a big car industry, and if it's not too late, this could perhaps save the US companies.

What needs to be done are a couple of things:

1. Big tax raise on gas.

Make it expensive to ride non-efficient cars. This tax raise would have to be made incrementally, over perhaps a two year period. But get the gas price up to somewhere around $6-8 per gallon. This will make people choose more gas-efficient cars, thus making the car makers to focus on that.

2. Invest in infrastructure like subways, buses, railways and alike.

3. Remove the tax on all gas-efficient cars.



Note: The first suggestion is also the most controversial, as well as most effective. It will make people change from Pick-up trucks to small efficient Hyundai's or the US alternative in no time.

-Hedge

I totally agree.  If the government was serious about oil, fuel efficiency, global warming, etc  these changes would be implemented.
Unfortunately, politicians don't want to make tough choices.  They worry too much about losing their positions of power.

Sandra
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 09, 2007, 04:59:11 AM
no comment, I'm laughing to hard...
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 09, 2007, 05:21:02 AM
no comment, I'm laughing to hard...

He's not the brightest bulb in the lighthouse.

You know that.

-Hedge
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 09, 2007, 05:24:20 AM
Who here is surprised?...Anyone....Anyone?

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Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 09, 2007, 05:30:43 AM
He's not the brightest bulb in the lighthouse.

You know that.

-Hedge

or  the White House.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 09, 2007, 05:43:33 AM
I have to say: I'm glad to see some hybrid cars and alternative fuel sources coming up in the US.

USA has a big car industry, and if it's not too late, this could perhaps save the US companies.

What needs to be done are a couple of things:

1. Big tax raise on gas.

Make it expensive to ride non-efficient cars. This tax raise would have to be made incrementally, over perhaps a two year period. But get the gas price up to somewhere around $6-8 per gallon. This will make people choose more gas-efficient cars, thus making the car makers to focus on that.

2. Invest in infrastructure like subways, buses, railways and alike.

3. Remove the tax on all gas-efficient cars.



Note: The first suggestion is also the most controversial, as well as most effective. It will make people change from Pick-up trucks to small efficient Hyundai's or the US alternative in no time.

-Hedge

You will never get me out of my Tahoe if gas goes to 20 bucks a gallon.  I enjoy overpowering people on the road too damn much.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 09, 2007, 05:44:31 AM
Lets just take the rest of the oil in the middle east.  Shouldn't be too damn hard, we have the missiles to do the job.

We could have gas for 25 cents a gallon.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 09, 2007, 05:47:28 AM
You will never get me out of my Tahoe if gas goes to 20 bucks a gallon.  I enjoy overpowering people on the road too damn much.

a tahoe?  HA!  That's not big. :) I drive a 1 ton 4wd Crew Cab dually...gets 9 mpg. But I agree with you,I like being a road hog...I dare someone to run into that truck. ;D  sucks buying gas though.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 09, 2007, 06:02:03 AM
a tahoe?  HA!  That's not big. :) I drive a 1 ton 4wd Crew Cab dually...gets 9 mpg. But I agree with you,I like being a road hog...I dare someone to run into that truck. ;D  sucks buying gas though.

I look at gas prices this way, the more it goes up, the less kids with that rap crap turned up full volume there will be to bother me at red lights.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: OzmO on April 09, 2007, 10:17:24 AM
I look at gas prices this way, the more it goes up, the less kids with that rap crap turned up full volume there will be to bother me at red lights.

Nah,  you'll just see these kids in little Toyota hybrids with one 30 inch sub woofer sticking out back!

When they drive off they'll sound like mo-ped with a base drum. 
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 09, 2007, 05:14:01 PM
I have to say: I'm glad to see some hybrid cars and alternative fuel sources coming up in the US.

USA has a big car industry, and if it's not too late, this could perhaps save the US companies.

What needs to be done are a couple of things:

1. Big tax raise on gas.

Make it expensive to ride non-efficient cars. This tax raise would have to be made incrementally, over perhaps a two year period. But get the gas price up to somewhere around $6-8 per gallon. This will make people choose more gas-efficient cars, thus making the car makers to focus on that.

2. Invest in infrastructure like subways, buses, railways and alike.

3. Remove the tax on all gas-efficient cars.



Note: The first suggestion is also the most controversial, as well as most effective. It will make people change from Pick-up trucks to small efficient Hyundai's or the US alternative in no time.

-Hedge

Don't worry, ...that's happening soon enough.  :P
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 09, 2007, 05:17:05 PM
What would have happened if he plugged it into the hydrogen?
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 09, 2007, 05:25:59 PM
What would have happened if he plugged it into the hydrogen?

President Pelosi would be delivering the eulogy at the most lavish national funeral of all time.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 09, 2007, 06:18:08 PM
President Pelosi would be delivering the eulogy at the most lavish national funeral of all time.

Any chance of stringing that Alan Mullaly guy up by his testicles?
I mean... he did break official protocols by touching the pResident?
Ya never know... he could have been a terrorrist or something?
He should be taken out, flogged and tortured mercilessly!  ;D
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: ribonucleic on April 09, 2007, 06:20:51 PM
Any chance of stringing that Alan Mullaly guy up by his testicles?
I mean... he did break official protocols by touching the pResident?

Does it seem to anyone else like the Secret Service dropped the ball on this one?
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 09, 2007, 07:03:40 PM
Does it seem to anyone else like the Secret Service dropped the ball on this one?

How, ...by not restraining the car guy, ...or by letting Bush go for the hydrogen plug?

Maybe they got an order from Cheney to stand down?  ;D
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 11, 2007, 02:42:06 AM
Don't worry, ...that's happening soon enough.  :P

I see you're plugging gas-reducing pills.

Let me give you some info on those: They only work as placebo.

How? People who buys those pills are driving smarter, more efficient. Which creates the 10-15% reduction of gas usage.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1850045&page=1

""We really want marketers to know we're watching them. We're monitoring the airwaves and the Internet and the print ads, and that we will take action if we see something that's egregious," Lupovitz said."

Take this as a friendly heads-up about getting out of a fishy business, which could get you in trouble.


-Hedge
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 11, 2007, 05:34:41 AM
What would have happened if he plugged it into the hydrogen?
Nothing
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 11, 2007, 05:35:51 AM
I see you're plugging gas-reducing pills.

-Hedge

    Beano is the best.
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 11, 2007, 09:06:34 AM
I see you're plugging gas-reducing pills.

Let me give you some info on those: They only work as placebo.

How? People who buys those pills are driving smarter, more efficient. Which creates the 10-15% reduction of gas usage.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1850045&page=1

""We really want marketers to know we're watching them. We're monitoring the airwaves and the Internet and the print ads, and that we will take action if we see something that's egregious," Lupovitz said."

Take this as a friendly heads-up about getting out of a fishy business, which could get you in trouble.


-Hedge

Hey Hedge,
Thanks for the story... but it is over a year old and is extremely inaccurate. The pills definitely do work.
It is NOT a placebo effect. That article came out over a year ago, when it was fashionable to do a hatchet job on the so-called gas saver devices. I cannot blame them, there were all sorts of charlatans coming out of the wood-work attempting to cash in on the desperation of motorists with products that did not work.

The tests these network guys conducted on the pills were improper and were destined to not show results.

That's why this is the type of product that works best in an networking environment, because you have people talking to people and ensuring they use the product correctly and will know what to expect from it.

In the AAA test, they plopped one pill in the gas tank and drove without giving the pill the time to dissolve in the tank. Of course they wouldn't see any results. Furthermore, it is necessary to first condition the engine, by developing a nano thin catalytic coating on the combustion chamber parts before one see the results. That could take processing up to 80 gallons of fuel before the coating is in place depending on how much carbon buildup is already present. ABC did their test incorrectly despite the proper instructions being provided to them, and they got a 4% increase on the first tank. We thought that was very impressive and quite a testament to the product that they managed to get a 4% increase despite using the product incorrectly.

After we realized it was becoming fashionable to attack us in the press and to lump us in with other products that do not work, we organized a test and invited the media to come and witness the results. They ended up with egg on their faces, and didn't pursue any further negative stories about us.

To the credit of many media outlets, they reported the positive results, ...however, many just sheepishly backed away from all mention of us and our product altogether.

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"How to Save Money at the Pump,
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You will clearly see:

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Since that test was conducted, we've since discovered how to improve results even further.

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We had been perplexed by different results being reported in the field. We couldn't understand how some people were seeing negligible results, while others were seeing reduced fuel consumption and savings in the 20 - 30% range. We hired him on as a technical consultant and he worked out an improved protocol that resulted in optimal results more consistently. He helped us to understand the different results that could be expected depending on the different dosages used.


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Hope That Clarifies
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Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: The Enigma on April 15, 2007, 05:24:30 AM
What would have happened if he plugged it into the hydrogen?


KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 15, 2007, 03:22:07 PM

KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be one way for him to justify his preference for oil.  :P
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2007, 03:35:45 PM
What would have happened if he plugged it into the hydrogen?


nothing - the story is that Mulally was making a joke and it got picked up by the media as being true. 
Title: Re: How fitting an end to the Bush presidency would this have been?
Post by: 24KT on April 15, 2007, 04:27:37 PM

nothing - the story is that Mulally was making a joke and it got picked up by the media as being true. 

Are you saying that even the car guy thinks Bush is not too bright? ???