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Title: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2007, 08:37:02 PM
Good decision.  What took so long? 

Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Three Players Were Facing Charges of First Degree Kidnapping, First Degree Forcible Sexual Offense
Rutgers Team Wants Personal Apology

By LARA SETRAKIAN
ABC News Law & Justice Unit

April 10, 2007 — The office of Attorney General Roy Cooper will announce that he is dismissing all charges against three Duke Lacrosse players, ABC News has learned from sources close to the case. The reasons that will be cited for the dismissal are not yet known.

The three players, Reade Seligmann, David Evans and Collin Finnerty were facing charges of first degree kidnapping and first degree forcible sexual offense. The charges stem from an off-campus party on the night of March 13, 2006. In the hours after the party, one of two dancers hired to perform for the players claimed she had been violently raped in a bathroom by members of the lacrosse team.

The players had also been indicted for first degree rape, but that charge was dismissed on Dec. 22, 2006.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3028515&page=1
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2007, 05:14:55 PM
The accuser (below).  I want to hear what man-hater Wendy Murphy has to say about this.

Crystal Gail Mangum: Profile of the Duke Rape Accuser
Wednesday, April 11, 2007

By Michael Y. Park

Yearbook photo of Crystal Mangum, who graduated from Hillside High School, Durham, N.C., in 1996.
Some of the details of the Duke University rape case may never be solved, but one thing is startlingly clear: Crystal Gail Mangum, the woman who accused three college lacrosse players of locking her in a bathroom and raping her, has had a very troubled life.

Mangum has been identified by name publicly several times, including by lawyers during press conferences on the case.

According to North Carolina Department of Corrections records, she was born on July 18, 1978, to a truck driver. She grew up the youngest of three children, not far from the house where she claimed she was assaulted in 2006. Durham is a slow-paced Southern town with equally large populations of black and white residents and a history of racial tensions — including those between a wealthy, predominantly white university community and its poorer black neighbors.

In 1993, when she was 14 years old, Mangum claimed to have been kidnapped by three men, driven to a house in Creedmoor, N.C., 15 miles away from Durham, and raped. She said one of the men was her boyfriend at the time, and was a physically and emotionally abusive man seven years older than she was. Creedmoor Police Chief Ted Pollard said Mangum filed a report on the incident in Aug. 18, 1996, three years after the rapes allegedly took place. The case, however, was not pursued, because the accuser backed away from the charges out of fear for her life, according to her relatives.
 
Family members still disagree on what really happened in 1993. The accuser's father has said he believes his daughter was not raped or injured in that incident, while her mother has said a rape involving three men in Creedmoor did occur, but said it happened when her daughter was 17 or 18; Mangum's ex-husband, Kenneth Nathanial McNeill, has said he believes the 1993 rape accusations are true.

According to her father, the year after the alleged Creedmoor rape, Mangum saw a psychiatrist and took prescription medication for a year because trauma from the assault had left her suicidal.

After Mangum graduated from high school in 1996, McNeill, then her fiance, encouraged her to join the Navy because she wanted to "see the world," he told various news outlets. She began her two-year active duty in the summer of 1997, marrying McNeill, who is 14 years her senior, in the fall of that year. She was trained to operate radios in Virginia, then the couple drove out to California where she was stationed on an ammunition ship. But she was frequently at sea, leading to ruptures in the marriage. On June 16, 1998, she accused her husband of taking her into a wooded area and threatening to kill her, which he has denied doing. When she failed to appear at a court hearing, the complaint was dismissed. The two separated after 17 months of marriage, and that same year, Mangum was discharged from the Navy, pregnant by a sailor she has begun a relationship with. That man would have another child with her as well, but that relationship wouldn't last.

By 2002, Mangum seems to have given up her dreams of seeing the world. She was back in her hometown, trying to get a job as a stripper. In June 2002, she was arrested on a multitude of charges while working at a topless dance club called Diamond Girls. According to police, she removed a customer's keys to his taxicab while giving him a lap dance, then stole the taxi while he was in the bathroom. Police chased her at speeds up to 70 miles per hour — frequently in the wrong lane — and when an officer tried to approach her, she barely missed running him over, and struck his patrol car instead. She tried to escape again, but a flat tire ended the second leg of her getaway. Finally in custody, she was found to have a blood-alcohol content of 0.19 (the state limit is 0.08). While being questioned, Mangum passed out and was taken to a hospital.

In the end, Mangum had racked up 10 charges, including driving while impaired, driving with a revoked license (her license has been suspended three times), eluding police, reckless driving, failure to heed a siren and lights, assault on an officer and larceny of a motor vehicle. In 2003, she pleaded guilty to four misdemeanors: larceny, speeding to elude arrest, assault on a government official and DWI. She served three weekends in jail, was placed on two years' probation and paid $4,200 in restitution and court fees.

But the portrait of an out-of-control, unstable woman with a drinking problem isn't accurate, according to relatives, who have described Mangum as a hardworking single mom running herself ragged trying to support her children and improve her life. In 2004, she earned an associate's degree from Durham Technical Community College. At the time of the Duke lacrosse rape allegations, she was in her second year as a full-time student at North Carolina Central University, studying police psychology and maintaining a 3.0 average. She had at some point held jobs working at a nursing facility and at a $10.50-an-hour assembly-line job making catalytic reducers.

But it wasn't a happy life.

Sometime in the last two years, according to her parents, Mangum suffered a mental breakdown and was taken to a hospital in Raleigh. They said they didn't know what caused the breakdown but said she felt burdened by mounting debts. In 2003, she went to court to force the father of her children to pay child support (the court sided with her and ordered $400 from his monthly paycheck to go to child support). In 2006, Mangum was working as a stripper in at least one club and for one service. She was adamant that she never worked as a prostitute, and told police that in only one instance did she have sex with a customer, a man she thought was "nice." According to employees of clubs she worked at, she was known as a problem dancer, frequently clashing with customers and other dancers and often passing out. At least one of the club workers, however, said he never saw Mangum drink while working.

As time went on, her romantic life didn't get more stable, either. According to reports, Mangum said she'd had sex with at least three men in the days leading up to the Duke lacrosse incident, including her boyfriend and two of the men who drove her to dancing gigs. Somewhere around this time, she again became pregnant. She gave birth to a premature girl in January 2007.

But the greatest upheaval in Mangum's life was to come on March 13, 2006. That's when she and 31-year-old Kim Roberts were hired to perform a striptease at the off-campus lacrosse house on North Buchanan Blvd. near Duke.

Now that all charges against the three players she accused have been dropped, it remains to be seen whether Mangum herself will be the target of any legal retribution on behalf of the players' families.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265374,00.html
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: kh300 on April 11, 2007, 05:20:45 PM
they should still be arrested.. your a fucking duke lacrosse player..so you hire the nastiest, skankiest stripper you can find to strip for you.. how pathetic, they cant get their own girls?
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 11, 2007, 08:49:32 PM
they should still be arrested.. your a fucking duke lacrosse player..so you hire the nastiest, skankiest stripper you can find to strip for you.. how pathetic, they cant get their own girls?

that bitch that accused them should be arrested!
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 11, 2007, 10:32:54 PM
I loved all the tards in the media ranting about how anyone who thought this girl was lying was a RACIST!!!! All those media clowns making these kids out to be guilty based on some third rate skunts lies need to insert there foot into there mouth. I hope Mike Dickfong gets what is coming to him.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 240 is Back on April 11, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
Remember those 28 Duke professors who called for those kids to be expelled?

egg, meet face.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2007, 01:51:42 PM
This is bad.  This guy should turn in his prosecutor card. 

D.A. apologizes to Duke lacrosse players
POSTED: 4:43 p.m. EDT, April 12, 2007
Story Highlights• Mike Nifong acknowledges dismissal of charges was correct
• Nifong also recognizes damage to reputations not easily undone
• Attorney general criticized "rush to accuse" early in case
• Player's attorney rejects apology

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DURHAM, North Carolina (AP) -- The local prosecutor who charged three Duke lacrosse players with raping a stripper apologized to the athletes Thursday, acknowledging that the North Carolina attorney general's decision to drop the case was correct.

"To the extent that I made judgments that ultimately proved to be incorrect, I apologize to the three students that were wrongly accused," Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong said in a statement.

On Wednesday, Attorney General Roy Cooper not only dropped all remaining charges against the players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans, but also pronounced the men innocent and said they were the victims of Nifong's "tragic rush to accuse." Cooper branded Nifong a "rogue" prosecutor who was guilty of "overreaching."

"I also understand that whenever someone has been wrongly accused, the harm caused by the accusations might not be immediately undone merely by dismissing them," Nifong said.

"It is my sincere desire that the actions of Attorney General Cooper will serve to remedy any remaining injury that has resulted from these cases."

Nifong refused to answer any questions after handing the statement to an Associated Press reporter outside his office in Durham.

Seligmann's attorney, Jim Cooney, responded bitterly to the apology.

"You can accept an apology from someone who knows all the facts and simply makes an error," Cooney said. "If a person refuses to know all the facts and then makes a judgment, that's far worse -- particularly when that judgment destroys lives."

Nifong faces ethics charges with the North Carolina state bar and could be disbarred if found guilty.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/12/lacrosse.nifong.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 12, 2007, 01:56:42 PM
This is bad.  This guy should turn in his prosecutor card. 

D.A. apologizes to Duke lacrosse players
POSTED: 4:43 p.m. EDT, April 12, 2007
Story Highlights• Mike Nifong acknowledges dismissal of charges was correct
• Nifong also recognizes damage to reputations not easily undone
• Attorney general criticized "rush to accuse" early in case
• Player's attorney rejects apology

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DURHAM, North Carolina (AP) -- The local prosecutor who charged three Duke lacrosse players with raping a stripper apologized to the athletes Thursday, acknowledging that the North Carolina attorney general's decision to drop the case was correct.

"To the extent that I made judgments that ultimately proved to be incorrect, I apologize to the three students that were wrongly accused," Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong said in a statement.

On Wednesday, Attorney General Roy Cooper not only dropped all remaining charges against the players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans, but also pronounced the men innocent and said they were the victims of Nifong's "tragic rush to accuse." Cooper branded Nifong a "rogue" prosecutor who was guilty of "overreaching."

"I also understand that whenever someone has been wrongly accused, the harm caused by the accusations might not be immediately undone merely by dismissing them," Nifong said.

"It is my sincere desire that the actions of Attorney General Cooper will serve to remedy any remaining injury that has resulted from these cases."

Nifong refused to answer any questions after handing the statement to an Associated Press reporter outside his office in Durham.

Seligmann's attorney, Jim Cooney, responded bitterly to the apology.

"You can accept an apology from someone who knows all the facts and simply makes an error," Cooney said. "If a person refuses to know all the facts and then makes a judgment, that's far worse -- particularly when that judgment destroys lives."

Nifong faces ethics charges with the North Carolina state bar and could be disbarred if found guilty.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/12/lacrosse.nifong.ap/index.html
What gets me about this whole ordeal is that the woman who brought about these false claims is walking scott-free!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:(  She needs to be held accountable for this.  Are there not laws against false charges/claims?  Were it not for her, none of these events would have transpired. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2007, 01:59:06 PM
What gets me about this whole ordeal is that the woman who brought about these false claims is walking scott-free!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:(  She needs to be held accountable for this.  Are there not laws against false charges/claims?  Were it not for her, none of these events would have transpired. 

I agree.  I don't know if they can bring any charges against her.  The prosecutor probably has some kind of immunity.  Where do these players go to get their names and reputations back?  At least she is being outed in some of the media. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 12, 2007, 03:06:28 PM
The prosecutor and that stripper bitch need to be thrown into prison.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2007, 04:17:52 PM
Article talking about possible legal action:

Apr 12, 6:46 PM EDT
Cleared Duke Players Could Sue

By STEVE HARTSOE
Associated Press Writer
 
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- The disgraced district attorney in the Duke lacrosse rape case apologized to the three athletes in a carefully worded statement Thursday as their lawyers weighed whether to sue him - and some legal experts say they have a case.

While prosecutors generally have immunity for what they do inside the courtroom, experts said that protection probably doesn't cover some of Mike Nifong's more questionable actions in his handling of the case - such as calling the lacrosse players "a bunch of hooligans" in one of several interviews deemed unethical by the state bar.

"I think their chances of success suing Mr. Nifong are reasonably good, despite what we call prosecutorial immunity," said John Banzhaf, a professor at the George Washington University School of Law.

On Wednesday, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper threw out the case against the three young men, pronounced them innocent and delivered a withering attack on Nifong, portraying him as a "rogue" prosecutor guilty of "overreaching." Cooper said Nifong rushed the case, failed to verify the accuser's allegations and pressed on despite the warning signs.

In his first comment on that decision, Nifong said in a statement Thursday: "To the extent that I made judgments that ultimately proved to be incorrect, I apologize to the three students that were wrongly accused."

He issued what appeared to be a plea to the students not to take any further action, saying, "It is my sincere desire that the actions of Attorney General Cooper will serve to remedy any remaining injury that has resulted from these cases."

So far, attorneys for David Evans, Reade Seligmann, and Collin Finnerty have not said whether they plan a civil action against Nifong. But they have not ruled it out.

"We're certainly going to be advising him and the Seligmann family of all of their options. But nobody is racing to file any kind of a lawsuit at this point," said Jim Cooney, Seligmann's attorney.

Separately, the North Carolina bar charged Nifong months ago with several violations of professional conduct that could lead to his disbarment. The case is set for trial before a bar committee in June.

Among other things, the bar said Nifong made misleading and inflammatory comments about the athletes, even before they were charged. In the early days of the case, for example, Nifong said several times that members of the lacrosse team were not cooperating with investigators. Not true, according to court documents.

Experts said the ethics charges could form the basis for a lawsuit seeking damages from Nifong.

"Ordinarily, a prosecutor has absolute immunity for the actions he takes in preparation for a case, but there are some caveats to that, and one of them is he does not have absolute immunity for misleading statements he gives at press conferences," said Shannon Gilreath, an adjunct professor at the Wake Forest University School of Law.

Other actions Nifong took outside of the courtroom could open him up to a lawsuit, Banzhaf said. Nifong, among other things, directed the police lineup at which the accuser identified the three players; the lineup has been criticized as faulty. The bar has also accused Nifong of lying in court about having turned over all DNA test results to the defense.

"When he acts as an investigator and advises police, or makes representations to court which may be false, in all these situations he does not have absolute immunity," Banzhaf said.

But Norm Early, a former Denver district attorney who has worked for the National District Attorneys Association, said Nifong's actions alone are not enough to win a lawsuit. Nifong's intent is crucial.

"The protection of immunity is pretty broad unless it's ruled he had malicious intent or that it was something close to that," Early said. "It would be very difficult to prove a case against him."

Other potential targets for a lawsuit include the accuser herself. Cooper said his investigators concluded no attack took place.

"There's no question they've got a lawsuit against her if she's brought false charges against them, which may be even more easily provable than actions against Nifong," said Stan Goldman, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.

In October, months before the bar filed its ethics complaint, Evans' mother warned in an interview: "Mr. Nifong, you've picked on the wrong families ... and you will pay every day for the rest of your life."

How much money they could get out of Nifong is unclear.

Nifong is a career civil servant, and his financial disclosure statement filed with the state suggests he is not especially wealthy. His only listed income is his salary of about $110,000, and aside from his home in Durham and some unspecified real estate in western North Carolina, he appears to have no significant assets outside of any mutual funds and retirement accounts.

"I think it's fair to say they're angry," Cooney, Seligmann's attorney, said of the families. "It's an anger of, 'What part of innocent don't you understand?' It's not, `We're going to go take your house and pension plan.' There's no plan to seek revenge against anybody."

That has left some to suggest the players and their families might sue Duke University, which has been heavily criticized in some quarters for suspending the players and canceling the lacrosse team's season before the young men were even tried.

But Banzhaf said such a lawsuit is not likely to succeed, since university administrators did not have access to the facts of the case and were basing their actions on what they learned from Nifong.

A Duke spokesman declined to comment on the prospect of a lawsuit.

Goldman said the real aim of a lawsuit against Duke, an elite private school with a multibillion-dollar endowment, might be to win an out-of-court settlement and recoup what are sure to be staggering legal bills.

"I can see Duke University just settling with these guys, even if there isn't a tremendous basis" for a suit, Goldman said. "Duke's got a lot of money and been around a long time."
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DUKE_LEGAL?SITE=HIHAD&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: youandme on April 12, 2007, 08:52:07 PM
Well of course here is what Rhyme Master Reverend Al Sharpton had to say on that case
"I think that there are certainly a lot of racial factors. Whether it is directly in the case, we'll see, because some reports said that there was racial language used."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html)
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 09:31:17 AM
This pic is hilarious!   :D
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Cap on April 13, 2007, 09:36:15 AM
What do you know a woman lying about rape. Wow, there is a stretch.  Add in that she was a stripper and black, it would have been a great pay day for her if she brought a civil suit against the rich boys and their families.  Gotta love bitches.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 11:06:15 AM
This pic is hilarious!   :D

 ;D
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 11:44:22 AM
Well of course here is what Rhyme Master Reverend Al Sharpton had to say on that case
"I think that there are certainly a lot of racial factors. Whether it is directly in the case, we'll see, because some reports said that there was racial language used."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html)

The African American community would be A LOT better of if they did not let retards like Al Sharpton claim they speak for the entire" black community" Remember when he called the jogger who was assaulted in central park a whore. Both Jackson and Sharpton a racist buffoons.

I love how Sharpton speaks out against Imus, yet has had several similar incidents himself. The hypocrisy is hilarious in this country. How about those anti semitic comments Jackson made? Please que the token caucasion person to speak  out against the disgusting comments made by Imus ( they where out of line) yet ignore/make excuses for the same type of shit when a person of color does it. I am not racist by the way. Just real. Fair and equality for ALL. Not just minorities when a white person screws up. Same shit should apply to every race. if that where the case, Sharpton would have been out of a job long ago.

Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 12:47:54 PM
The African American community would be A LOT better of if they did not let retards like Al Sharpton claim they speak for the entire" black community"


Who said Sharpton speaks for them?   
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: youandme on April 13, 2007, 12:54:36 PM
Who said Sharpton speaks for them?   

What Black person has said he does not?
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 12:57:09 PM
What Black person has said he does not?
ME!  >:(

Read my posts in this thread
www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=140639.msg1990562#msg1990562 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=140639.msg1990562#msg1990562)
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:07:53 PM
Who said Sharpton speaks for them?   

Sharpton says the " the black community feels" all the time. I don't see many prominent African American leaders stepping out to let people know Al Sharpton does no speak for the "black community" like he claims to. Imus took the time to appear on Sharptons radio show. That kinda makes me think people see Sharpton as some kind of spokesperson. The cold hard truth is that Sharpton is a loud mouthed, racist, radio show host with an agenda. The guy is a total joke and embarrasses his race constantly.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
What Black person has said he does not?

What difference does that make?  David Duke claims to speak for white people. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 01:10:59 PM
Sharpton says the " the black community feels" all the time.... He thinks he speaks for them. Imus took the time to appear on his dhow like he was some type of representative of the black community. The man is a radio show host.

Sharpton speaks for himself (as Colossus just essentially pointed out). 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2007, 01:11:12 PM
What Black person has said he does not?

Me.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: CQ on April 13, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
Sharpton says the " the black community feels" all the time....

The same way the Bush says he speaks for all Americans, and some white nationalist leaders will say they speak for all whites, feminist leaders say they speak for all women etc.. one person never speaks for all.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:12:21 PM
The same way the Bush says he speaks for all Americans, and some white nationalist leaders will say they speak for all whites, feminist leaders say they speak for all women etc.. one person never speaks for all.

Americans speak out against Bush. They make there opinions known if they disagree with what he says. Don't see many African Americans speaking out against Sharpton.

That argument is not valid anyway. Although Bush is an idiot, he was voted into office by the American people. Sharpton is a radio host, who claims to speak for an entire community.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:13:25 PM
Sharpton speaks for himself (as Colossus just essentially pointed out). 

Not when he says "the black community feels" before he says something. I don't see any African American people speaking out against him, or making it known he does not "speak" for the community.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 01:17:19 PM
Not when he says "the black community feels" before he says something. I don't see any African American people speaking out against him.

Colossus and Jag just said he doesn't represent them.  And how exactly is the "black community" supposed to speak out against a self appointed so-called representative?  They're all Americans.  There isn't some "black community" czar who can refute whatever Sharpton does or says.  There is no white, Asian, Hispanic, Polynesian, Middle Eastern, etc. representative either. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: CQ on April 13, 2007, 01:18:20 PM
People speak out against bush. Dont see many African Americans speaking out against Sharpton.

On a smaller level; how many in this thread did? I count 3.

88 - you see what the media wants you to see. No flame, but living where I do, where news is piped in from many nations, in many languages the differences are vast. Also, some boring geek professor saying Sharpton is an idiot, is not good news. Sharpton running around with his rhetoric is. Ratings make money.

That argument is not valid anyway. Although Bush is an idiot, he was voted into office by the American people. Sharpton is a radio host, who claims to speak for an entire community.

Aah, but 88 that makes the comparison more valid. You guys VOTED Bush in, which would lend credibility to the fact that he speaks for all of you. Sharpton just finagled his way into the media, we have never voted that twerp into any position.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
Sharpton says the " the black community feels" all the time. I don't see many prominent African American leaders stepping out to let people know Al Sharpton does no speak for the "black community" like he claims to. Imus took the time to appear on Sharptons radio show. That kinda makes me think people see Sharpton as some kind of spokesperson. The cold hard truth is that Sharpton is a loud mouthed, racist, radio show host with an agenda. The guy is a total joke and embarrasses his race constantly.

That in itself might have been good enough reason to fire him. Advertisers garnered a huge marketshare which should have gone to those that advertised on Imus' show, ...instead Sharpton got the boost. Think about it... A shock jock creates a controversy, ...then pulls listeners to someone else's show? I'd have fired his ass too. If he's gonna create the controversy, he had better make it pay off, ...he didn't. The result was the opposite, and he became a liability.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:26:02 PM
Colossus and Jag just said he doesn't represent them.  And how exactly is the "black community" supposed to speak out against a self appointed so-called representative?  They're all Americans.  There isn't some "black community" czar who can refute whatever Sharpton does or says.  There is no white, Asian, Hispanic, Polynesian, Middle Eastern, etc. representative either. 

While they very smart and successful people, Colossus and Jag are not prominent social leaders within the African American community. I don't like how Sharpton claims he speaks for an entire community. I never said there was a "representative" for a race, you did. I don't agree with the guy he is a scumbag. No one speaks out against him when he claims he speaks for an entire race.

I think this whole situation is quit hypocritical. What Imus said was wrong. Only thing is, all you have to do is purchase a rap cd by 1 of 1000 African American hip hop artists to hear the exact same shit.

I find it funny anyone takes the opinion of a guy serious who wanted to crucify 3 Caucasian lacrosse players before any evidence was provided to prove they where guilty. Turns out that slut lied and Sharpton does not have to answer to anyone. What a proponent of equal rights. Jus my opinion. I guess I jus really hate Sharpton and im pissed about it :-X :-\
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:29:53 PM
On a smaller level; how many in this thread did? I count 3.

88 - you see what the media wants you to see. No flame, but living where I do, where news is piped in from many nations, in many languages the differences are vast. Also, some boring geek professor saying Sharpton is an idiot, is not good news. Sharpton running around with his rhetoric is. Ratings make money.

Aah, but 88 that makes the comparison more valid. You guys VOTED Bush in, which would lend credibility to the fact that he speaks for all of you. Sharpton just finagled his way into the media, we have never voted that twerp into any position.
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You make a great point here. I see what you are saying.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
That in itself might have been good enough reason to fire him. Advertisers garnered a huge marketshare which should have gone to those that advertised on Imus' show, ...instead Sharpton got the boost. Think about it... A shock jock creates a controversy, ...then pulls listeners to someone else's show? I'd have fired his ass too. If he's gonna create the controversy, he had better make it pay off, ...he didn't. The result was the opposite, and he became a liability.

I have no problem with Imus getting canned. What he said was horribly inappropriate, and hurtful to those women. Of course offensive towards African Americans also. My beef lies in the fact that a guy like Sharpton can get on TV and claim he speaks for an entire community of people, and people take him serious. Imus felt the need to speak to Sharpton to apologize, I don't get that. Who is Sharpton? Why not meet with actual prominent leaders in the African American community? Sharpton claims he speaks for a community, and I fear some actually think he does. Sharpton has said things that could be compared to what Imus said. My main beef is his recent crusade against the Duke kids , and his blatent agenda.

Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 01:41:16 PM
Sharpton says the " the black community feels" all the time. I don't see many prominent African American leaders stepping out to let people know Al Sharpton does no speak for the "black community" like he claims to. Imus took the time to appear on Sharptons radio show. That kinda makes me think people see Sharpton as some kind of spokesperson. The cold hard truth is that Sharpton is a loud mouthed, racist, radio show host with an agenda. The guy is a total joke and embarrasses his race constantly.
That's because the mainstream media has people believing as such.  There are PLENTY of black leaders (believe it or not, there ARE conservative-minded leaders in the black community) who don't have the opportunistic mindset of an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.   I listed quite a few of these leaders not too long ago. 

There just seems to be a overwhelming presence of ignorance when it comes to things like this.   ::)
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 01:42:37 PM
While they very smart and successful people, Colossus and Jag are not prominent social leaders within the African American community. I don't like how Sharpton claims he speaks for an entire community. I never said there was a "representative" for a race, you did. I don't agree with the guy he is a scumbag. No one speaks out against him when he claims he speaks for an entire race.

Who are these prominent social leaders?  I don't think anyone in this country is a spokesman for his or respective race.  
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 01:42:50 PM
On a smaller level; how many in this thread did? I count 3.

88 - you see what the media wants you to see. No flame, but living where I do, where news is piped in from many nations, in many languages the differences are vast. Also, some boring geek professor saying Sharpton is an idiot, is not good news. Sharpton running around with his rhetoric is. Ratings make money.

Aah, but 88 that makes the comparison more valid. You guys VOTED Bush in, which would lend credibility to the fact that he speaks for all of you. Sharpton just finagled his way into the media, we have never voted that twerp into any position.
Great post, CQ. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 01:45:01 PM
Who are these prominent social leaders?  I don't think anyone in this country is a spokesman for his or respective race.  
Another good point, Beach!
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2007, 01:47:46 PM
On a smaller level; how many in this thread did? I count 3.

88 - you see what the media wants you to see. No flame, but living where I do, where news is piped in from many nations, in many languages the differences are vast. Also, some boring geek professor saying Sharpton is an idiot, is not good news. Sharpton running around with his rhetoric is. Ratings make money.

Aah, but 88 that makes the comparison more valid. You guys VOTED Bush in, which w could lend credibility to the fact premise that he speaks for all of you. Sharpton just finagled his way into the media, we have never voted that twerp into any position.

Well, to be honest, there's still a great deal of controversy surrounding the Bush 'vote'.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 01:56:41 PM
Another good point, Beach!

Yes there are NO prominent black leaders/people in this country to meet with. Instead he chose the great Al Sharpton. I never said there was certain "spokes person for the race". I said Sharpton claims he speaks for an entire community.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
Yes there are NO prominent black leaders/people in this country to meet with. Instead he chose the great Al Sharpton. I never said there was certain "spokes person for the race". I said Sharpton claims he speaks for an entire community.
huh?  ??? 

Who chose Sharpton? 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
huh?  ??? 

Who chose Sharpton? 

Imus...... He went on Sharptons show to apologize. Why? Imus had to have known it would only make things worse since Sharpton has an agenda. It blew things up even more. I don't understand why he would choose to appear on Sharptons radio show to say how sorry he was. Who exactly is Sharpton? Apparently some buy into him speaking for a community.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 02:11:37 PM
Another good point, Beach!

Thanks Colossus.   :)
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 02:17:13 PM
Imus...... He chose his show to apologize on. Why? he had to have known it would only make things worse since Sharpton has an agenda. It blew things up even more. I don't understand why he would choose to appear on Sharptons radio show to say how sorry he was. Who exactly is Sharpton? Apparently some buy into him speaking for a community.
Can't blame Imus for that.  He's much like the rest of the general population, who's too ignorant (and I don't mean that facetiously) of the fact that the mainstream media drives the perception that opportunistic sharks like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson represent the viewpoint of blacks. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 02:18:49 PM
Can't blame Imus for that.  He's much like the rest of the general population, who's too ignorant (and I don't mean that facetiously) of the fact that the mainstream media drives the perception that opportunistic sharks like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson represent the viewpoint of blacks. 

I get all fired up over sharpton. Bill Oreilly to. Sorry fellas!
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: CQ on April 13, 2007, 02:27:07 PM
You make a great point here. I see what you are saying.
Great post, CQ. 

TY to you both.

On a more important note, WTF is up with Sharptons hair? I mean seriously? Why does he perm it and wear it like a woman? That is an issue that needs dealing with :-\
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 02:29:32 PM
I get all fired up over sharpton. Bill Oreilly to. Sorry fellas!
I share your sentiments towards Sharpton, but I'm sorry, bro, I'm a big O'Reilly fan.  
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Colossus_500 on April 13, 2007, 02:31:53 PM
TY to you both.

On a more important note, WTF is up with Sharptons hair? I mean seriously? Why does he perm it and wear it like a woman? That is an issue that needs dealing with :-\
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Man, that was just brutal!  I busted out laughing, and I'm still cracking up as I type.  hahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: body88 on April 13, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
I share your sentiments towards Sharpton, but I'm sorry, bro, I'm a big O'Reilly fan.  

 ;)
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 02:50:06 PM
TY to you both.

On a more important note, WTF is up with Sharptons hair? I mean seriously? Why does he perm it and wear it like a woman? That is an issue that needs dealing with :-\

James Brown.  They were apparently close friends and Sharpton started wearing his hair that way to honor The Godfather of Soul. 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: pumphard on April 13, 2007, 03:10:02 PM
they should still be arrested.. your a fucking duke lacrosse player..so you hire the nastiest, skankiest stripper you can find to strip for you.. how pathetic, they cant get their own girls?
Ya, ok, good reason to get arrested........
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: pumphard on April 13, 2007, 03:13:45 PM
What difference does that make?  David Duke claims to speak for white people. 
David Duke?  When did he ever speak for the white people?  Is that why Sharpton is still around and Duke isn't.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: pumphard on April 13, 2007, 03:17:21 PM
Colossus and Jag just said he doesn't represent them.  And how exactly is the "black community" supposed to speak out against a self appointed so-called representative?  They're all Americans.  There isn't some "black community" czar who can refute whatever Sharpton does or says.  There is no white, Asian, Hispanic, Polynesian, Middle Eastern, etc. representative either. 
I'll tell you how , by not letting him represent victims, who have been done wrong by white people.  How many times do u see a black victim with either Sharpton or Jackson beside them, representing them to the media .
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 04:01:43 PM
David Duke?  When did he ever speak for the white people?  Is that why Sharpton is still around and Duke isn't.

Exactly.  Never.  Did he claim to?  Yes.  And Duke isn't around? 
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2007, 04:05:00 PM
I'll tell you how , by not letting him represent victims, who have been done wrong by white people.  How many times do u see a black victim with either Sharpton or Jackson beside them, representing them to the media .

So precisely which members of the "black community" are supposed to stop Sharpton from speaking his mind? 

I see lots of things on the media, but this is generally what the media wants us to see, not what is actually going on in America.  It is the media that picks and chooses what and who to showcase when it comes to race.     
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2007, 04:45:15 PM
TY to you both.

On a more important note, WTF is up with Sharptons hair? I mean seriously? Why does he perm it and wear it like a woman? That is an issue that needs dealing with :-\

I think that had to do with a close affinity with the late James Brown.
I once heard him talking about it on Jimmy Kimmel one night.
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2007, 04:47:49 PM
oops... didn't know Beach already responded. Maybe I should read the entire thread first.  :-[
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2007, 12:03:04 AM
I hope he never has the opportunity to prosecute another case. 

Ethics Charges Against Ex-Duke DA Mike Nifong Upheld by Disciplinary Committee
Friday, April 13, 2007

AP

 DURHAM, N.C. —  A disciplinary committee rejected a request Friday to dismiss ethics charges against the former prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse case, who is accused of withholding critical DNA evidence from the defense.

The decision by the three-member panel came shortly after an hourlong hearing, at which committee chairman F. Lane Williamson repeatedly challenged the arguments made by attorneys for Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong.

"I just don't see where this gets you on your arguement to dismiss," Williamson said.

The North Carolina State Bar has accused Nifong with breaking several rules of professional conduct as he led the investigation into allegations three lacrosse players raped a stripper at a team party in March 2006.

This week, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dismissed all charges in the case, and said the three players indicted were innocent and that his investigators concluded no attack occurred. In doing so, he portrayed Nifong as a "rogue" prosecutor who rushed the case by failing to verify the accuser's allegations.

"I don't want to make comments outside the courtroom," Nifong said after the hearing, surrounded by a swarm of reporters who following him down the street. "You'll have an opportunity to hear things I have to say inside the courtroom."

In January, after Nifong had turned the case over to Cooper's office, the bar accused the veteran prosecutor of failing to give the defense DNA test results that found genetic material from several men on the accuser's underwear and body, but none from any lacrosse player.

Nifong's attorneys denied he intentionally withheld the DNA evidence, saying he provided the defense with a report outlining test results months before a potential trial and gave notice the lab director would be called as an expert witness.

That shouldn't matter, said bar counsel Katherine Jean, because Nifong knew about the test results before he even won indictments against the three players. It's possible, she said, that with less capable defense counsel they might have chose to enter into a plea agreement, which is how the vast majority of criminal cases in North Carolina are resolved.

"It's scary when you think about a case like this case," Jean said. "These men might have pleaded guilty never knowing the DNA evidence was exculpatory. ... It's a scary concept."

The bar has also charged Nifong with lying to the court and to bar investigators, and for making misleading and inflammatory comments about the athletes under suspicion. Those issues were not addressed at Friday's hearing.

Nifong, who apologized to the three cleared players in a statement issued Thursday, could be disbarred if convicted. His ethics trial is scheduled to start in June. While there have been calls in Durham and elsewhere for Nifong to resign, his attorney said the veteran prosecutor has no intention of leaving office.

"Mr. Nifong was elected to be the DA of Durham County and he's served the people of Durham County for 29 years, and he intends to fulfill the duties he was elected to do," said his attorney, David Freedman.

Also Friday, a defense attorney retrieved the $100,000 bond posted by each of the former defendants, said Jermaine Patterson, head bookkeeper with the Durham County Clerk's Office. The players were originally released on $400,000 bond, though a judge reduced the amount to $100,000 for each player last June.

"The families of these young men want to see Mr. Nifong get what they believe he was ready to deny their sons, which is a fair hearing," said Brad Bannon, an attorney who represented one of the three players. "They don't want people rushing to judgment against him anymore than he rushed to judgment against their sons."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265903,00.html
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: 24KT on April 14, 2007, 10:54:52 AM

In January, after Nifong had turned the case over to Cooper's office, the bar accused the veteran prosecutor of failing to give the defense DNA test results that found genetic material from several men on the accuser's underwear and body, but none from any lacrosse player.

Nifong's attorneys denied he intentionally withheld the DNA evidence, saying he provided the defense with a report outlining test results months before a potential trial and gave notice the lab director would be called as an expert witness.

That shouldn't matter, said bar counsel Katherine Jean, because Nifong knew about the test results before he even won indictments against the three players. It's possible, she said, that with less capable defense counsel they might have chose to enter into a plea agreement, which is how the vast majority of criminal cases in North Carolina are resolved.

"It's scary when you think about a case like this case," Jean said. "These men might have pleaded guilty never knowing the DNA evidence was exculpatory. ... It's a scary concept."

What's really scary is... I doubt this is an isolated case. I'm sure there are plenty of other innocent defendants all over North Carolina... in fact the entire country who are railroaded into jail because of exculpatory evidence with held from the defense.

This is the type of crap that happens when people are more concerned with 'winning' rather than the truth
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on August 30, 2007, 11:38:57 AM
Duke D.A. pleads not guilty to criminal contempt

Disgraced former prosecutor Mike Nifong pleaded not guilty Thursday to criminal contempt charges stemming from his failure to turn over complete DNA testing results during the now-discredited Duke lacrosse rape case.

If found in contempt, Nifong could face up to 30 days in jail and a fine of up to $500.

As Durham County district attorney, Nifong led the investigation into a woman's allegations that she was raped at a 2006 lacrosse team party where she was hired as a stripper.

He won indictments against three lacrosse players, but eventually recused himself from the case, and state prosecutors dropped all remaining charges, saying the players were innocent victims of a "tragic rush to accuse."

Defense attorneys for the three falsely accused young men asked a judge to punish Nifong for initially telling the court he had turned over all DNA test results when he knew, and failed to disclose, that genetic material from multiple men was found on the accuser -- but none from any lacrosse player.

Nifong's attorney, Jim Glover, told Superior Court Judge W. Osmond Smith III during the hearing Thursday that it wasn't about whether the statements were true or false but "were they willfully and intentionally false and were they also part of an effort ... to hide potentially exculpatory evidence."

Nifong was disbarred in June for more than two dozen violations of the state's rules of professional conduct during his prosecution of the lacrosse case.

During a hearing last month, he apologized and acknowledged there was "no credible evidence" that the three formerly charged players committed any of the crimes he accused them of.

He said then: "It is my hope that all of us can learn from the mistakes in this case, that all of us can begin to move forward."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/30/nifong.contempt.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: w8tlftr on August 30, 2007, 02:35:20 PM
Well, to be honest, there's still a great deal of controversy surrounding the Bush 'vote'.  ;D

Only by the side that lost, Judi.

Sour grapes that later turned into whine.

Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2007, 01:33:08 AM
Nifong gets day in jail for criminal contempt in Duke rape case
Associated Press
Updated: August 31, 2007, 8:46 PM ET

DURHAM, N.C. -- The prosecutor who led the now-discredited rape case against three Duke University lacrosse players was held in criminal contempt of court Friday for lying to a judge when pursuing charges against the athletes.

Superior Court Judge W. Osmond Smith III sentenced Mike Nifong to a day in jail. The former Durham County district attorney, who was already stripped of his law license and had resigned from office, had faced as many as 30 days.

"If what I impose with regard to Mr. Nifong would make things better or different for what's already happened, I don't know what it would be or how I could do it," Smith said.

Nifong showed no visible reaction when Smith handed down the sentence, and he left the courtroom with his wife, Cy Gurney.

Reading his decision from the bench minutes after the end of two days of testimony, Smith said Nifong "willfully made false statements" in September when he insisted he had given the defense all results from a critical DNA test.

Smith found that Nifong had provided the defense with a DNA testing report that he knew to be incomplete. The omitted data contained test results showing that DNA of multiple men, none of whom were lacrosse players, was on the accuser.

Smith said his decision was aimed at "protecting and preserving the integrity of the court and its processes." He said truthfulness is especially important when it comes to the rights of the accused to a fair trial.

When Nifong reports to jail at 9 a.m. next Friday, it will bring an end to the criminal case that began when a woman told police she was raped at a March 2006 party thrown by Duke's lacrosse team.

The team was initially vilified as Nifong -- in his first political campaign for district attorney -- told voters he wouldn't allow Durham to become known for "a bunch of lacrosse players from Duke raping a black girl."

Nifong went on to win indictments against three players -- Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and Dave Evans. But as the case against them progressed, it became clear Nifong's evidence was pitifully weak.

A state bar disciplinary committee later concluded Nifong manipulated the case to boost his chances at the ballot box, and he continued to pursue it even when it became clear the defendants were innocent.

State prosecutors eventually dropped all charges against the three men and declared them innocent victims of Nifong's "tragic rush to accuse."

Nifong recused himself after the state bar charged him with ethics violations, and he was disbarred in June for more than two dozen violations of the state's rules of professional conduct. He resigned a month later as district attorney.

Taking the stand in his own defense, Nifong insisted Friday he didn't intentionally lie about whether he had turned over the DNA evidence. But he acknowledged the report he gave defense attorneys was incomplete.

"I now understand that some things that I thought were in the report were in fact not in the report," Nifong said. "So the statements were not factually true to the extent that I said all the information had been provided."

A defense attorney found the omitted data amid 2,000 pages of documents Nifong gave the defense months after the initial report. Nifong said that by the time he realized the information wasn't in that report, "it had been corrected. The defendants already had it."

"It was never my intention to mislead this or any other court," Nifong said. "I certainly apologize to the court at this time for anything I might have said that was not correct."

Earlier Friday, the director of a private lab who prepared the DNA testing report said the omissions were a misunderstanding.

Brian Meehan said Nifong asked him to test DNA samples from lacrosse players to see whether any matched genetic material found on the accuser.

Although male DNA was found, no sample matched a lacrosse player. Results from the other unidentified men was referenced as "non-probative" material in the report given to defense attorneys, Meehan said.

Charles Davis, the attorney appointed to prosecute the contempt charge, asked Meehan whether Nifong's statement to the court -- that the report encompassed everything he had discussed with Meehan -- was true or false.

"It would be false because we don't include discussions in our reports," Meehan answered.

On Thursday, Meehan said he was the one who decided how to prepare the report stating no lacrosse player had been linked to the accuser. When Meehan was asked whether Nifong had asked him to leave anything out, Meehan answered, "No."

Defense attorney Jim Glover declined to comment after the hearing.

Finnerty's father, Kevin, said, "It's not a happy day for us, but we're thrilled the system works, that justice has happened, and we're moving on."

Joseph Cheshire, an attorney for Evans, said he felt sorry for Nifong's family, but not Nifong.

"I think what he did was willful and intentional and damaged seriously this state and the lives of these boys and their families," he said. "I don't feel sorry for Mike Nifong. Sorry if that sounds cruel, but I don't."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2999217
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on October 05, 2007, 11:02:49 AM
I think they should get some money.

Wrongly accused Duke players sue Durham, former DA
ESPN.com news services

Updated: October 5, 2007, 12:59 PM ET

GREENSBORO, N.C. -- Three former Duke lacrosse players falsely accused of rape filed a federal lawsuit Friday against disgraced prosecutor Mike Nifong, the city of Durham and the police detectives who handled the investigation.

The lawsuit calls the criminal case against Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and Dave Evans "one of the most chilling episodes of premeditated police, prosecutorial and scientific misconduct in modern American history."

Last month, the three men reportedly sought a $30 million settlement from the city, as well as and reforms in the legal process, saying they would file a lawsuit if the case was not settled.

According to the Durham Sun-Herald, the lawsuit alleges 22 separate "causes of action" against the defendants, including malicious prosecution and concealing and fabricating evidence.

The lawsuit also asks for a federal judge to appoint an independent monitor to oversee the city police department. The monitor would have the power to change department policies and the authority to hire and fire all department personnel, including the chief, according to the report.

"The city will conduct a full and thorough review of the plaintiffs' allegations in the complaint," the city said in a prepared statement, according to the report. "We understand that the complaint asserts claims against the city and its employees that appear to be based on untested and unproven legal theories. ... In light of that, the City Council has directed legal counsel to vigorously defend the city and city employees in court against this lawsuit."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3050259
Title: Re: Duke Lacrosse Case Charges to Be Dropped
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2007, 12:57:12 PM
Ex-lacrosse coach sues Duke   

CHAPEL HILL, North Carolina (AP) -- The former Duke University men's lacrosse coach who resigned last year amid allegations that three of his players raped a stripper has sued the university.

Mark Pressler now coaches at Division II Bryant University in Rhode Island.

 Mike Pressler's lawsuit apparently stems from a financial settlement the school reached earlier this year with him, although school officials did not give details Friday. The players were later cleared of the charges.

The Herald-Sun of Durham reported Friday on its Web site that his lawsuit alleges the university broke the terms of the confidential settlement when university senior vice president John Burness made disparaging comments about him.

The newspaper reported that the lawsuit asks the state court to void the settlement and hold a trial on Pressler's claim of wrongful termination.

Duke's vice president and general counsel, Pamela Bernard, said the university was "disappointed that he is now trying to undo that agreement with an unfounded claim against Duke.

"We will address the matter through the legal process and insist on honoring our existing agreement."

Pressler did not return a call seeking comment Friday night, and his agent declined to comment.

Lacrosse players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans were indicted last year on charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual offense, after a stripper told police she was raped at a March 2006 party thrown by the team.

The players were later cleared by state prosecutors, who concluded no crime occurred and found the trio to be the innocent victims of former Durham County prosecutor Mike Nifong.

Nifong was disbarred for his actions in the case. He resigned from office and spent a night in jail after a judge held him criminal contempt of court for his conduct during the case. Pressler now coaches at Division II Bryant in Rhode Island.

In June, the three players reached an undisclosed financial settlement with Duke. Last week, they filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against Nifong, the city of Durham and the police detectives who handled the case, among others.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/13/duke.lacrosse.ap/index.html