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Title: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kilojoule on April 14, 2007, 06:25:09 AM
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 :o Looking Big..
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kilojoule on April 14, 2007, 06:26:52 AM
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Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Marty Champions on April 14, 2007, 06:50:36 AM
wow his face looks fat as hell hahahha. yet hes at 7 percent bodyfat. my face would be fat like that if i was 35% bodyfat

why do people even bother with roids making your face look like that?
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: TheAnimal on April 14, 2007, 06:53:36 AM
wow his face looks fat as hell hahahha. yet hes at 7 percent bodyfat. my face would be fat like that if i was 35% bodyfat

why do people even bother with roids making your face look like that?
have you ever used anabolics or muscle-building drugs?
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 14, 2007, 08:09:22 AM
great arms...
i like heath..
dont really care much for his moniker "the gift"
seems a bit narcisstic
.. but physique wise top 8 in the world. as far a pro bbing goes
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SladeG on April 14, 2007, 08:09:34 AM
Yea his face looks a little puffy as does everyones due to carryying alot of water. Dude looks pretty damn good tho for the offseason. They got some assholes trying to get in competitions looking like that!!!
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: donrhummy on April 14, 2007, 08:12:46 AM
Weird but all his structural and proportional weaknesses really stand out when he's carrying a little fat.

And he doesn't look BIG. He looks exactly like he does in contest shape with just some fat added on top. No extra muscle.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Bigger Business on April 14, 2007, 08:12:56 AM
narrow clavicles
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 08:13:06 AM
Anybody know how much did he weight in this condition?
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Bigger Business on April 14, 2007, 08:15:46 AM
i can tell you because his clavicles are so close and narrow that when they were weighed they came in at 1/2 a pound
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: The Squadfather on April 14, 2007, 08:16:02 AM
freaky triceps, back looks bigger than usual.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: swilkins1984 on April 14, 2007, 08:50:34 AM
Anybody know how much did he weight in this condition?

My guess would be about 250lbs offseason.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: ignorance on April 14, 2007, 09:03:37 AM
well that just says it all.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Hedgehog on April 14, 2007, 09:07:32 AM
Someone please stop make these "athletes" wear the thong-style posing trunks. How about going back to the trunks of the early 80's?

Now that would be something that could actually help bodybuilding gain some respect.

Cicherillo, as an athlete rep, why not try get a rule change in posing trunks?

It could only help you.

-Hedge
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: tleilaxutank on April 14, 2007, 09:25:50 AM
Someone please stop make these "athletes" wear the thong-style posing trunks. How about going back to the trunks of the early 80's?

Now that would be something that could actually help bodybuilding gain some respect.

Cicherillo, as an athlete rep, why not try get a rule change in posing trunks?

It could only help you.

-Hedge

I vote for ass-less chaps


c'mon, seriously offseason pics are made for homo schmoes...
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 09:27:13 AM
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 :o Looking Big..
Telling the truth,his off-season mode dont impress me at all.
Beside Lees off is much fater than Phils off but very impressive.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 14, 2007, 09:49:03 AM
Someone please stop make these "athletes" wear the thong-style posing trunks. How about going back to the trunks of the early 80's?

Now that would be something that could actually help bodybuilding gain some respect.

Cicherillo, as an athlete rep, why not try get a rule change in posing trunks?

It could only help you.

-Hedge
But how would we be able to judge their condition by their shredded glutes? :-X

What you're proposing is rediculous! >:(
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on April 14, 2007, 10:48:27 AM
he looks pretty lean for offseason.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2007, 10:52:08 AM
He looks to be making great improvements.  Quads and chest are always gonna be trouble areas.  The insertion gods just weren't that friendly.  However back and calves are getting better, arms look insane as always.  A shame he's not doing the Olympia this year.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 10:57:53 AM
He looks to be making great improvements.  Quads and chest are always gonna be trouble areas.  The insertion gods just weren't that friendly.  However back and calves are getting better, arms look insane as always.  A shame he's not doing the Olympia this year.

if he did he would look like a skinny school girl against the giants.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Pollux on April 14, 2007, 10:58:44 AM
Not bad at all for "offseason". Ronnie Coleman, take note.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
Not bad at all for "offseason". Ronnie Coleman, take note.

Ronnie has 8 Mr Os

Phil has 0...I fail to see your point
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: thegift on April 14, 2007, 11:16:21 AM
Ronnie has 8 Mr Os

Phil has 0...I fail to see your point

Please do not compare me to Ronnie Coleman, as he is a legend and I'm only a young apprentice next to him.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 11:20:35 AM
Please do not compare me to Ronnie Coleman, as he is a legend and I'm only a young apprentice next to him.

I wasn't attacking you Phil, just shedding some light on the other poster.


I just hope that you don't add too much weight too soon and lose the midsection


I swear this to me is perfection..I aspire to this:

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/steelepegasus/Phil2.jpg)


I don't really care for the rest of your gains

Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Pollux on April 14, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Please do not compare me to Ronnie Coleman, as he is a legend and I'm only a young apprentice next to him.

Trust me, Phil. You've got people who think you look better than him.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: YoungBlood on April 14, 2007, 11:25:45 AM
dont really care much for his moniker "the gift"
seems a bit narcisstic


While I used to think the very same thing, it's not that Phil calls himself that due to his thinking he's the next Mr. O or anything regarding that.
It's "the gift" his parents gave him- good genetics- and the reason why he got that nickname.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2007, 11:27:38 AM
He coulda been 3rd at the Arnold and no one would have blinked.   It was that close, and it looks like he's taking on those trouble areas.

Guys like Branch, Toney, Dexter, even Vic ( #3 thru 10 at the Olympia level)... they're NOT going to change/improve much between the Arnold and the Olympia.  They've competed for a decade or more and have essentially neared their physical limitations.  Phil isn't going to peak for 5 years.  He CAN make a jump over 2-3 of the same guys from the Arnold, at the Olympia, by showing the judges he's better than last time, while everyone else has the same thing they brought to the table last time.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Necrosis on April 14, 2007, 11:30:49 AM
He coulda been 3rd at the Arnold and no one would have blinked.   It was that close, and it looks like he's taking on those trouble areas.

Guys like Branch, Toney, Dexter, even Vic ( #3 thru 10 at the Olympia level)... they're NOT going to change/improve much between the Arnold and the Olympia.  They've competed for a decade or more and have essentially neared their physical limitations.  Phil isn't going to peak for 5 years.  He CAN make a jump over 2-3 of the same guys from the Arnold, at the Olympia, by showing the judges he's better than last time, while everyone else has the same thing they brought to the table last time.


geez you hyping phil........gasp. would have never have thought it.

dude give it up. victor is genetically superior, so is melvin. phil is a good up and comer but he needs alot of work. IF he does progress he can win it. your making the assumption that first he can and second he will. also victor can come in, in better condition.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 11:31:39 AM
240 aka mr make baby without having sex

we should not look too far into the future as things are not guaranteed..injuries do occur you know. Plus, new guys enter the stage.

in the next 3 years, can phil beat the X man, Victor or Dexter?

after that anything goes
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Alex23 on April 14, 2007, 11:34:04 AM
  The insertion gods just weren't that friendly. 

You mean insertions for chest or Quads?

He has been recognized to have a great chest before so that wouldn't make any sense...
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Stavios on April 14, 2007, 12:08:50 PM
his quads are fine what are you guys talking about
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: flexingtonsteele on April 14, 2007, 12:09:32 PM
he has great quad seperation as well, which imho is much more important than size.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: thegift on April 14, 2007, 12:24:23 PM
geez you hyping phil........gasp. would have never have thought it.

dude give it up. victor is genetically superior, so is melvin. phil is a good up and comer but he needs alot of work. IF he does progress he can win it. your making the assumption that first he can and second he will. also victor can come in, in better condition.

I don't think 240 is hyping me up, it is just that he realizes how far I've come along in such a short time period that's all. Also, genetically superior means what because there are many many variables involved that aren't adding up ok, especially since Victor and Melvin along with every pro has evolved over their many years of training. I haven't even come close to those years in the gym, so I'm kind of playing in a game of catch-me-if-you-can, which for most I have, but not all yet. I also think Victor, Melvin along with every pro has their strengths and weakenesses which makes them spectacular (some more than others) however we are so very different at the same time. When I competed against Victor it was well apparent that he has that OMG appearance, which is what I think we all want on stage.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 12:35:26 PM
I don't think 240 is hyping me up, it is just that he realizes how far I've come along in such a short time period that's all. Also, genetically superior means what because there are many many variables involved that aren't adding up ok, especially since Victor and Melvin along with every pro has evolved over their many years of training. I haven't even come close to those years in the gym, so I'm kind of playing in a game of catch-me-if-you-can, which for most I have, but not all yet. I also think Victor, Melvin along with every pro has their strengths and weakenesses which makes them spectacular (some more than others) however we are so very different at the same time. When I competed against Victor it was well apparent that he has that OMG appearance, which is what I think we all want on stage.
Hey, now i am fan of you.
Because you see your career in the right perspective.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: thegift on April 14, 2007, 12:37:30 PM
Weird but all his structural and proportional weaknesses really stand out when he's carrying a little fat.

And he doesn't look BIG. He looks exactly like he does in contest shape with just some fat added on top. No extra muscle.

I'm sorry, I'll work on it lol. I suppose you were at the show right?
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 12:39:30 PM
I'm sorry, I'll work on it lol. I suppose you were at the show right?
Little by little ;)
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd.html

Check out these arms:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd/mattandphil.jpg)

And this is a guy weighing 222 at 5'9-5'10?  Crazy arms.

Probably 250s.
Yeah,His best body parts.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Comparing his arms to the size of the DVD gives you an idea of how big they are.  :o
Not only the size,the detail of his arm is sick.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: BigAlski on April 14, 2007, 01:39:31 PM
Funny the way the internet is, when it comes to critisizms.  Its almost like people want to go so far as to look up your ass and the next poster thinks that's totally normal.  Perverted would be a more proper term. 
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Necrosis on April 14, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
I don't think 240 is hyping me up, it is just that he realizes how far I've come along in such a short time period that's all. Also, genetically superior means what because there are many many variables involved that aren't adding up ok, especially since Victor and Melvin along with every pro has evolved over their many years of training. I haven't even come close to those years in the gym, so I'm kind of playing in a game of catch-me-if-you-can, which for most I have, but not all yet. I also think Victor, Melvin along with every pro has their strengths and weakenesses which makes them spectacular (some more than others) however we are so very different at the same time. When I competed against Victor it was well apparent that he has that OMG appearance, which is what I think we all want on stage.

i agree for the most part with what your saying. it just annoys the shit out of me with all these guys hyping you saying "he looks totally different" etc.. which isnt true. it puts high expectations, better yet false expectations on you. you have what it takes to win, but what if's dont make you win. flex had it too and never won the big show. im a fan and hope you do, but your have a ways to go(which you realize). im a bodybuilding nobody, so take it for what its worth, nothing ;D
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 02:39:37 PM
I wasn't attacking you Phil, just shedding some light on the other poster.


I just hope that you don't add too much weight too soon and lose the midsection


I swear this to me is perfection..I aspire to this:

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/steelepegasus/Phil2.jpg)


I don't really care for the rest of your gains



if I looked like this I would walk around in posing trunks 24/7 doing a front double bi
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 14, 2007, 02:43:01 PM
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd.html

Check out these arms:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd/mattandphil.jpg)

And this is a guy weighing 222 at 5'9-5'10?  Crazy arms.

Probably 250s.

what is wrong with Phil? why isn't he wearing the clothes/insignia of all his sponsors?
he needs to walk around in an "egg beater" string tank top with Gakic stamped on his forehead

look at Jay, have you ever seen him without something that says "muscletech"?
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: donrhummy on April 14, 2007, 07:23:56 PM
I'm sorry, I'll work on it lol. I suppose you were at the show right?

The Arnold? No, watched it on video. And I had you placing higher than you actually did.

Don't misunderstand me. I think you look better than Ronnie Coleman's physique did at the last Mr. O. I think you have a great physique and great potential. However, as I'm sure you know, your physique ain't quite "there" (i.e. perfection) yet. That's what I was referencing.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: gh15 on April 14, 2007, 07:36:06 PM
he won pro card from the ifbb,,he already is perfect,,ifbb dont give you no pro card if you dont look perfect

all the weaknessess you talking about are when you compare him to the top of the top and he is pretty much one in the top now days

when you fight with dex and vic in call outs you dont have anything to worry about,,he is on the right path
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: donrhummy on April 14, 2007, 07:54:56 PM
he won pro card from the ifbb,,he already is perfect,,ifbb dont give you no pro card if you dont look perfect

all the weaknessess you talking about are when you compare him to the top of the top and he is pretty much one in the top now days

when you fight with dex and vic in call outs you dont have anything to worry about,,he is on the right path

Really?! This is about the dumbest statement I've ever heard with regard to the IFBB. There are plenty of guys who were FAR from perfect and got pro cards. Jim Quinn, Jeremy Freeman, Skip Lacour (and yes, the IFBB made him a pro - HE turned it down), Paco Bautista, Joel Stubbs, Desmond Miller, Chris Cook, the list is too long.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: gh15 on April 14, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
quinn is perfect
freeman is perfect
skip is perfect
paco is perfect
stubbs is perfect
miller is perfect


ifbb will not give you a pro card or think about giving you a pro card if you are not perfect,,all of those you mentioned have quality of muscle mass that is beyond phenominal,,all of this guys got beyond ripped while maintaining high quality muscle mass on their frame,,

its the quality of muscle/physiqe that makes you win a pro card! not necessarily the size of the muscle!
remember that

pay attention at what weight kamali won his pro card! it is the quality of muscle on your frame that makes the ifbb award you a pro card,,

after that it is game open for size
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Parker on April 14, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
quinn is perfect
freeman is perfect
skip is perfect
paco is perfect
stubbs is perfect
miller is perfect


ifbb will not give you a pro card or think about giving you a pro card if you are not perfect,,all of those you mentioned have quality of muscle mass that is beyond phenominal,,all of this guys got beyond ripped while maintaining high quality muscle mass on their frame,,

its the quality of muscle/physiqe that makes you win a pro card! not necessarily the size of the muscle!
remember that

pay attention at what weight kamali won his pro card! it is the quality of muscle on your frame that makes the ifbb award you a pro card,,

after that it is game open for size

Explain Kamali or Ray Arde, Stan McQauy, Kris Dim. Far from perfect, and far from the best in the field. They were given cards.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: triple_pickle on April 14, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
I wasn't attacking you Phil, just shedding some light on the other poster.


I just hope that you don't add too much weight too soon and lose the midsection


I swear this to me is perfection..I aspire to this:

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/steelepegasus/Phil2.jpg)


I don't really care for the rest of your gains



phil looks much better off season, he's too skinny in this picture, need to work on his shoulders real bad
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Shawn Ray on April 14, 2007, 09:50:48 PM
Yea Phil, you dont look big next to me ;D
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: evolutnbatista on April 14, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
very impressive phil, just keep doing what your doing and improving the exact same way and your golden!`
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Andrew Smith on April 14, 2007, 10:03:32 PM
He looks to be making great improvements.  Quads and chest are always gonna be trouble areas.  The insertion gods just weren't that friendly.  However back and calves are getting better, arms look insane as always.  A shame he's not doing the Olympia this year.

Actually he has great legs all the way around.  The insertion gods were very friendly.  He has great size, shape, and separation in the quadriceps.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Figo on April 15, 2007, 03:53:29 AM
phil looks much better off season, he's too skinny in this picture, need to work on his shoulders real bad

Shoulders? Oh, yeah, the things Heath's arms are attached to...
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 15, 2007, 04:23:14 AM
He coulda been 3rd at the Arnold and no one would have blinked.   It was that close, and it looks like he's taking on those trouble areas.

Guys like Branch, Toney, Dexter, even Vic ( #3 thru 10 at the Olympia level)... they're NOT going to change/improve much between the Arnold and the Olympia.  They've competed for a decade or more and have essentially neared their physical limitations.  Phil isn't going to peak for 5 years.  He CAN make a jump over 2-3 of the same guys from the Arnold, at the Olympia, by showing the judges he's better than last time, while everyone else has the same thing they brought to the table last time.



Yeah Phil is good and in the future will most likely be a annual contender in the O but god damn you kiss his ass way to much. I mean ok you helped him with some work or whatever but no need to over hype and already over hyped person. No one is doubting that he doesn't have a shot at being a future Mr. O but this is not his year and either is next year maybe by the time these 5 years are up you mention he will be in the top three at the O. BTW I think Dennis Wolf will be better ;)
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 15, 2007, 04:26:47 AM
He looks to be making great improvements.  Quads and chest are always gonna be trouble areas.  The insertion gods just weren't that friendly.  However back and calves are getting better, arms look insane as always.  A shame he's not doing the Olympia this year.

Never seen much of a problem with his great legs or great calves. If anything he needs to keep on that back and chest. You do still follow BBing right ???
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 15, 2007, 04:33:32 AM
I don't think 240 is hyping me up, it is just that he realizes how far I've come along in such a short time period that's all. Also, genetically superior means what because there are many many variables involved that aren't adding up ok, especially since Victor and Melvin along with every pro has evolved over their many years of training. I haven't even come close to those years in the gym, so I'm kind of playing in a game of catch-me-if-you-can, which for most I have, but not all yet. I also think Victor, Melvin along with every pro has their strengths and weakenesses which makes them spectacular (some more than others) however we are so very different at the same time. When I competed against Victor it was well apparent that he has that OMG appearance, which is what I think we all want on stage.


I think we all realize how far youv'e come but we also realize within another 1-2 years your not gonna just up and surpass all those who are now top contenders. Conditioning wise yeah you could def beat some at but you don't just pack on 20lbs of quality 'muslce' overnight without looking soft unless your a complete beginner to weight training. Having said that I do think you will by 30 or so be one of the top contenders out there if not Mr. O but only time will tell cause you never know what could happen.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: gymguy on April 15, 2007, 07:05:33 AM
Bigger is Better!
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: The Squadfather on April 15, 2007, 07:58:18 AM
hahahaha, some of the clowns in this thread make me laugh, Phil Heath looks absolutely UNREAL all the way around in every bodypart and all you guys do is nitpick on what's supposedly "wrong" with him, unbelievable.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Necrosis on April 15, 2007, 08:17:32 AM
hahahaha, some of the clowns in this thread make me laugh, Phil Heath looks absolutely UNREAL all the way around in every bodypart and all you guys do is nitpick on what's supposedly "wrong" with him, unbelievable.

dave you use to be one of the first to put people and pros down. you even grilled milos.

because you've been exposed as mediocre at best you have become more humble. but i mean, you use to do the same shit only worse.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: The Squadfather on April 15, 2007, 08:20:01 AM
dave you use to be one of the first to put people and pros down. you even grilled milos.

because you've been exposed as mediocre at best you have become more humble. but i mean, you use to do the same shit only worse.
the only thing i "grilled" Milos on was his arms and attitude and i stand by my comments on his arms, even he will admit that they were subpar compared to the rest of his body and his competitors and i have apologized to him for my insults because i realize that he is actually one of the nicer more giving people on here.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: YoungBlood on April 15, 2007, 09:53:26 AM
the only thing i "grilled" Milos on was his arms and attitude and i stand by my comments on his arms,


...and his workout routines.....busted with your hand in the chip bag!
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 15, 2007, 10:01:04 AM

...and his workout routines.....busted with your hand in the chip bag!

ROFL
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: bigkubby on April 15, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Yea Phil, you dont look big next to me ;D
no shawn phil dwarfs you as did ,ronnie,flex,nasser,dorian,paul,kevin,jay,you get the picture quitter. phil is gonna be a hall of famer for sure
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on April 15, 2007, 05:59:21 PM
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd.html

Check out these arms:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/philheaththegiftdvd/mattandphil.jpg)

And this is a guy weighing 222 at 5'9-5'10?  Crazy arms.

Probably 250s.


Matt, do you work out?  :-\
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 15, 2007, 06:14:19 PM

Matt, do you work out?  :-\

that all depends on how you define working out.

in the broad sense of things the answer is yes, but if you actually mean stepping into a gym and lifting weights then it is a big NO
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: thegift on April 15, 2007, 06:43:50 PM
Yea Phil, you dont look big next to me ;D

Ok Shawn you're right. Wanna race because I've seen your video and I think I can beat you.  ;D


Take care and have fun at the FIBO, I'm gonna have to go next year.
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: 240 is Back on April 15, 2007, 06:56:15 PM
Ok Shawn you're right. Wanna race because I've seen your video and I think I can beat you.  ;D

If it's a race to a buffet or a dollar on the floor, my money's on Shawn!
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: swilkins1984 on April 15, 2007, 06:59:04 PM
If it's a race to a buffet or a dollar on the floor, my money's on Shawn!


Damn Lol  ;D
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on April 15, 2007, 07:03:14 PM
that all depends on how you define working out.

in the broad sense of things the answer is yes, but if you actually mean stepping into a gym and lifting weights then it is a big NO

Are you serious? If so then why is this guy so interested in bodybuilding and bodybuilders?  :-\
Title: Re: "The Gift" offseason
Post by: bigkubby on April 15, 2007, 07:55:30 PM
phil is a phenominal athlete cant wait to see what the future holds.