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ABC news reported that since Sharpton called for the firing of Imus he has revieced massive amounts of death threats and has had to hire additional security teams. The NYPD has also pitched in and taken on securing rhyme master Sharpton.
Is it right that tax dollars are going into securing Sharpton?
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ABC news reported that since Sharpton called for the firing of Imus he has revieced massive amounts of death threats and has had to hire additional security teams. The NYPD has also pitched in and taken on securing rhyme master Sharpton.
Is it right that tax dollars are going into securing Sharpton?
He's an American citizen isn't he? He's plagued by death threats isn't he?
If it's right that American tax dollars are going into securing politicians plagued by death threats, why not Sharpton?
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He's an American citizen isn't he? He's plagued by death threats isn't he?
If it's right that American tax dollars are going into securing politicians plagued by death threats, why not Sharpton?
Because he's a poison to this country.
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If it's right that American tax dollars are going into securing politicians plagued by death threats, why not Sharpton?
Because he's not an elected public official.
This smells like a publicity stunt from someone who sees the spotlight about to fade.
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Because he's a poison to this country.
You say that like some of your politicians are not. :-\
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why, are they not your politician's too?
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Because he's not an elected public official.
This smells like a publicity stunt from someone who sees the spotlight about to fade.
Neither are potential witnesses in trials, ...or many other citizens provided with protection.
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why, are they not your politician's too?
you tell me? what would make me say such a thing? ::)
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He's an American citizen isn't he? He's plagued by death threats isn't he?
If it's right that American tax dollars are going into securing politicians plagued by death threats, why not Sharpton?
He's not a politician. He might be an american citizen but why should tax dollars be wasted in securing someone when they incite hate only on themseves.
Hundreds, thousands of people recieve death threats they don't recieve special protection. The majority of people in witness protection programs don't even get security, and they are usually helping put criminals behind bars, helping america.
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he can afford his own private security i'm sure.
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This smells like a publicity stunt from someone who sees the spotlight about to fade.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
And I am betting Sharpton was just drooling at this Imus thing as a chance to get lots of TV time before announcing his 2008 Presidential run. How soon until we see him, "victorious" in getting a man fired and surrounded by NYPD "because he is so important", declaring he will run for president to defeat "all the Imuses in the world!"
And the media, as you know, will be all too happy to cover it. Sharpton is not a threat to the status quo - he's a sideshow.
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
And I am betting Sharpton was just drooling at this Imus thing as a chance to get lots of TV time before announcing his 2008 Presidential run. How soon until we see him, "victorious" in getting a man fired and surrounded by NYPD "because he is so important", declaring he will run for president to defeat "all the Imuses in the world!"
And the media, as you know, will be all too happy to cover it. Sharpton is not a threat to the status quo - he's a sideshow.
Sharpton is such a jackass. It's people like him that give his causes a bad name.
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and to my post being removed ::) ::)
When you use racial slurs such as "gook" That's when i start yanking threads.
Post what ever you like just keep racial slurs out if it.
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When you use racial slurs such as "gook" That's when i start yanking threads.
Post what ever you like just keep racial slurs out if it.
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but you know he is pushing back the race 50 years, right?
he should be put in his place as an extremist, not an activist.
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He's not a politician. He might be an american citizen but why should tax dollars be wasted in securing someone when they incite hate only on themseves.
{cough} Bush {cough}
Actually, he is a politician, ...and I pose my original question again
Hundreds, thousands of people recieve death threats they don't recieve special protection. The majority of people in witness protection programs don't even get security, and they are usually helping put criminals behind bars, helping america.
How many of those threats come in en masse and are credible?
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but you know he is pushing back the race 50 years, right?
he should be put in his place as an extremist, not an activist.
hey, i'm not a Sharpton fan in any way. I believe he's not helping the situation with those Basket Ball players.
It was a public insult and Imus apologized for it and paid a price for his error. End of story, time to move on.
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hey, i'm not a Sharpton fan in any way. I believe he's not helping the situation with those Basket Ball players.
It was a public insult and Imus apologized for it and paid a price for his error. End of story, time to move on.
ditto
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I hope he dies.
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hey, i'm not a Sharpton fan in any way. I believe he's not helping the situation with those Basket Ball players.
It was a public insult and Imus apologized for it and paid a price for his error. End of story, time to move on.
what??? price for his error? How much should he pay in his life? losing his livelyhood because of a comment. that's too much. do you think sharpton and jackson uproar and pushing the subject into the limelight constantly had no effect on this?
c'mon, you can't be that f'd up.
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he did pay a heavy price. Made $10+ million a year. All gone now because of one tasteless comment.
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i sewar it wasnt me...i just said i hated the guys guts and he is an blood sucking opportunist...and i reallyreally really hate him....but no death threats from big mal...and i would kill sharpton in a debate over this...absolutley kill him
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he did pay a heavy price. Made $10+ million a year. All gone now because of one tasteless comment.
tastless, but should he have been fired?
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what??? price for his error? How much should he pay in his life? losing his livelyhood because of a comment. that's too much. do you think sharpton and jackson uproar and pushing the subject into the limelight constantly had no effect on this?
c'mon, you can't be that f'd up.
I never said i agreed with it.
But i do understand CBS's thinking in the matter. It was a business decision.
Frankly i don't think he should have got fired.
My point with that comment was that Sharpton needs to leave it alone because enough has happened.
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I won't be surprised if gets another radio show soon.
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what??? price for his error? How much should he pay in his life? losing his livelyhood because of a comment. that's too much. do you think sharpton and jackson uproar and pushing the subject into the limelight constantly had no effect on this?
c'mon, you can't be that f'd up.
If it was good enough for Bill Maher, ...why isn't it good enough for Imus?
If you recall, Bill didn't slur anyone... or maybe that was the problem. :-\
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Judging by how pissed ppl were on this board, I find it easy to believe he is getting many death threats.
On the subject of getting fired, to be real, that's life. I'd fire someone for a lot less tbh, and others have been fired for less - chronic lateness etc. One of my employees starts costing me money, I'll fire them with no qualms.
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Judging by how pissed ppl were on this board, I find it easy to believe he is getting many death threats.
On the subject of getting fired, to be real, that's life. I'd fire someone for a lot less tbh, and others have been fired for less - chronic lateness etc. One of my employees starts costing me money, I'll fire them with no qualms.
yep
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ABC news reported that since Sharpton called for the firing of Imus he has revieced massive amounts of death threats and has had to hire additional security teams. The NYPD has also pitched in and taken on securing rhyme master Sharpton.
Is it right that tax dollars are going into securing Sharpton?
Of course.
No matter how stupid Sharpton is, there is no way he should be threatened.
Those who have sent threats to him are even worse than him.
Or rather, much worse.
Sharpton is a tool, no question about it. But being a tool NEVER justifies death threats or violence.
It's sad indeed that baffoons are giving him that cop out. Now he will be able to be a marture.
-Hedge
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ABC news reported that since Sharpton called for the firing of Imus he has revieced massive amounts of death threats and has had to hire additional security teams. The NYPD has also pitched in and taken on securing rhyme master Sharpton.
Is it right that tax dollars are going into securing Sharpton?
I wonder if the death threats are coming from white folks?
But what makes him entitled to tax-payer funded security? I would be up in arms if I lived in New York.
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I bet it would be a drive by; throw them off the scent, just like with JFK. Lol. I bet Pacman and his crew will be the scapegoats. ::) ::) ::)
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I wonder if the death threats are coming from white folks?
But what makes him entitled to tax-payer funded security? I would be up in arms if I lived in New York.
Just like anyone else is entitled to protection from the police department if there are death threats made. The police should protect and serve any citizen.
Even a guy like Sharpton.
This is all because of the idiots who threatened Sharpton.
He has the right to be as stupid as he wants, within the bounds of the law. Nobody should cross the line and make threats on his life. I don't think he deserves to be threatened. Those who feels that way needs to re-think their agenda IMO.
As far as the Imus-Sharpton case: Imus should've never been fired. That's hypocritical. I don't see Sharpton calling for rap artists to stop using the term "ho's" or "ni gg ers" in their lyrics.
And Imus apologized. Sharpton's a Reverend. What about the whole "forgiving thing", did Sharpton think that was something he could just drop whenever?
Sharpton is epic tool. But I'll defend his right to be that very tool to lengths.
-Hedge
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Judging by how pissed ppl were on this board, I find it easy to believe he is getting many death threats.
Absolutely not. The people here are moderates, not extremists. Moderates do not commit murders for political reasons, extremists do.
And the anti-Black extremists who might publicly condemn Sharpton actually want him kept alive, because they feel he does more harm to Black America than good.
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Just like anyone else is entitled to protection from the police department if there are death threats made. The police should protect and serve any citizen.
I agree, if they do this for every citizen. I guess I should back up and say I'd be upset if the NYPD is making some special exception for Sharpton.
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He's an American citizen isn't he? He's plagued by death threats isn't he?
If it's right that American tax dollars are going into securing politicians plagued by death threats, why not Sharpton?
Because he IS NOT a politician....he is a discrace to the black race and I bet the blacks (street citizens, ) that support him couldn't tell me anything about black history.
That's a big problem with all these people running their mouths...How many of them simply spew hate and don't even know or care to know anything about their own race or history?
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Of course.
No matter how stupid Sharpton is, there is no way he should be threatened.
Those who have sent threats to him are even worse than him.
Or rather, much worse.
Sharpton is a tool, no question about it. But being a tool NEVER justifies death threats or violence.
It's sad indeed that baffoons are giving him that cop out. Now he will be able to be a marture.
-Hedge
I don't think he should get death threats, but you say those that threatened him are worse than him?
Do you think those that threatened him have RUINED university kids lives...ruined their name, made their families spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to prove their innocence?
All that support without even investigating the allegations.
Do you think those that threatened him ever set up and wrongfully accused policemen of raping a girl and leaving naked in a box in ny?
I think your way off with your statement.
It isn't good to threaten anyone, but it's tough to be worse than this instigator of hate and violence.
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I don't think he should get death threats, but you say those that threatened him are worse than him?
Do you think those that threatened him have RUINED university kids lives...ruined their name, made their families spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to prove their innocence?
All that support without even investigating the allegations.
Do you think those that threatened him ever set up and wrongfully accused policemen of raping a girl and leaving naked in a box in ny?
I think your way off with your statement.
It isn't good to threaten anyone, but it's tough to be worse than this instigator of hate and violence.
There are dimwitted morons in Washington who accomplish this feat everyday!
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How does Bush instigate hate and violence? Is it because he goes to war with arab nations AFTER arabs kill thousands of Americans on American soil?
Sure I think the Iraq thing is out of hand, but then again I'm just a citizen and it's easy for me and you to sit here and talk about what should be done.
There were and probably are mistakes, but "who can do it better" is just speculation because we will never know the outcome of another approach...what's done is done.
The Arab countries are a major threat to Americans...hopefully the terror doesn't come here again.
Basically I just think that Al Sharpton is a more politically correct Louis Farrekan(if that's possible with this guy).
He hates whites and is the cause of many false accusations against whites, blows things completely out of control hoping...just hoping to get the less educated ones among the black race to follow in his chirade.
Oh, just to be "politically correct" let me make it clear I didn't mean blacks are not intelligent, I mean among ALL races there are intelligent and not so intelligent....Sharton looks to instigate the non itelligent people that never open a news paper among the black race because they are the ones that, like sheep, will be lead. The intelligent ones see Sharpton for what he truely is, a instigator of hate.
Sharpton, in my opinion, does NOT want racism to go away because then he will not get any income....I'm only guessing that he gets donations or does anyone know his actually job? Does he even have a job and if not then he REALLY is a great example for the black race.
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How does Bush instigate hate and violence? Is it because he goes to war with arab nations AFTER arabs kill thousands of Americans on American soil?
Sure I think the Iraq thing is out of hand, but then again I'm just a citizen and it's easy for me and you to sit here and talk about what should be done.
There were and probably are mistakes, but "who can do it better" is just speculation because we will never know the outcome of another approach...what's done is done.
The Arab countries are a major threat to Americans...hopefully the terror doesn't come here again.
Basically I just think that Al Sharpton is a more politically correct Louis Farrekan(if that's possible with this guy).
He hates whites and is the cause of many false accusations against whites, blows things completely out of control hoping...just hoping to get the less educated ones among the black race to follow in his chirade.
Oh, just to be "politically correct" let me make it clear I didn't mean blacks are not intelligent, I mean among ALL races there are intelligent and not so intelligent....Sharton looks to instigate the non itelligent people that never open a news paper among the black race because they are the ones that, like sheep, will be lead. The intelligent ones see Sharpton for what he truely is, a instigator of hate.
Sharpton, in my opinion, does NOT want racism to go away because then he will not get any income....I'm only guessing that he gets donations or does anyone know his actually job? Does he even have a job and if not then he REALLY is a great example for the black race.
There are many shephards, ...who will always lead their flocks wherever they want them to go.
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How does Bush instigate hate and violence? Is it because he goes to war with arab nations AFTER arabs kill thousands of Americans on American soil?
Sure I think the Iraq thing is out of hand, but then again I'm just a citizen and it's easy for me and you to sit here and talk about what should be done.
There were and probably are mistakes, but "who can do it better" is just speculation because we will never know the outcome of another approach...what's done is done.
The Arab countries are a major threat to Americans...hopefully the terror doesn't come here again.
Basically I just think that Al Sharpton is a more politically correct Louis Farrekan(if that's possible with this guy).
He hates whites and is the cause of many false accusations against whites, blows things completely out of control hoping...just hoping to get the less educated ones among the black race to follow in his chirade.
Oh, just to be "politically correct" let me make it clear I didn't mean blacks are not intelligent, I mean among ALL races there are intelligent and not so intelligent....Sharton looks to instigate the non itelligent people that never open a news paper among the black race because they are the ones that, like sheep, will be lead. The intelligent ones see Sharpton for what he truely is, a instigator of hate.
Sharpton, in my opinion, does NOT want racism to go away because then he will not get any income....I'm only guessing that he gets donations or does anyone know his actually job? Does he even have a job and if not then he REALLY is a great example for the black race.
What does Iraq have to do with Arabs killing thousands of Americans on American soil? Didn't you get the Pentagon's memo?
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How does Bush instigate hate and violence? Is it because he goes to war with arab nations AFTER arabs kill thousands of Americans on American soil?
See cardio, ...this is my point.
The ethnicity of the perps should be irrelevant, ...but for many it is the excuse to incite & justify hatred.
Forgive me if I at this point, have very little faith in the ability of many Americans to slough off media manipulation of their critical thinking abilities.
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See cardio, ...this is my point.
The ethnicity of the perps should be irrelevant, ...but for many it is the excuse to incite & justify hatred.
Forgive me if I at this point, have very little faith in the ability of many Americans to slough off media manipulation of their critical thinking abilities.
I bet if they were French instead of Arab (lol...I know, I know) we would have kicked the shit out of France.
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See cardio, ...this is my point.
The ethnicity of the perps should be irrelevant, ...but for many it is the excuse to incite & justify hatred.
Forgive me if I at this point, have very little faith in the ability of many Americans to slough off media manipulation of their critical thinking abilities.
You'd think that would be obvious..... Critical thinking handi-caps are rampant everywhere not just in America.
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There are dimwitted morons in Washington who accomplish this feat everyday!
Leave it to jaguar to make a joke out of this thread. ::)
C'mon jag... You're better than that. WTF does Bush have to do with Sharpton and Imus?
-Hedge
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Leave it to jaguar to make a joke out of this thread. ::)
C'mon jag... You're better than that. WTF does Bush have to do with Sharpton and Imus?
-Hedge
Do you actually think there aren't dim wits in Washington who've done more harm than Sharpton ever has?
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Do you actually think there aren't dim wits in Washington who've done more harm than Sharpton ever has?
Clinton could have done something about Bin Laden, so sure...yes they have.
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Do you actually think there aren't dim wits in Washington who've done more harm than Sharpton ever has?
Of course.
Sharpton isn't even comparable to Bush, eg.
But that's beside the point.
Do you want me to bring in Hitler every time you discusses the flaws of Bush?
"Well, Bush may have his flaws, but he sure ain't no Hitler or Pol Pot"
Come on. You gotta see the absurdity of your argument.
This discussion is about Sharpton, and how he received death threats.
-Hedge
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See cardio, ...this is my point.
The ethnicity of the perps should be irrelevant, ...but for many it is the excuse to incite & justify hatred.
Forgive me if I at this point, have very little faith in the ability of many Americans to slough off media manipulation of their critical thinking abilities.
I'm not comfortable with painting EVERYONE with a broad (racist) brush. I'm fully capable of hearing a perpetrator's race or ethnicity and not condemning that individuals entire race or ethnic background.
This is my biggest problem with people that look for and find racism everywhere, it quashes everyone's ability to talk and debate.
I can start listing off the races and ethnicities of everyone that committed an atrocious act in the US but that doesn't mean I'm a racist or that I don't like or respect that particular race.
People that search for racism do nothing but stir the pot and ultimately that's bad for everyone.
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Of course.
Sharpton isn't even comparable to Bush, eg.
That's true, ...Bush has caused waaaay more damage. :-\
But that's beside the point.
Do you want me to bring in Hitler every time you discusses the flaws of Bush?
"Well, Bush may have his flaws, but he sure ain't no Hitler or Pol Pot"
Come on. You gotta see the absurdity of your argument.
This discussion is about Sharpton, and how he received death threats.
-Hedge
The poster made the erroneous claim that "it's tough to be worse than this instigator of hate and violence."
How is it inapprpropriate for me to point out the obvious error in his statement when there are dimwitted morons in Washington who accomplish this feat everyday?
Have not these same dimwitted morons not received death threats themselves, ...and have they not also been rightly afforded additional security measures at tax payer expense?
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I'm not comfortable with painting EVERYONE with a broad (racist) brush. I'm fully capable of hearing a perpetrator's race or ethnicity and not condemning that individuals entire race or ethnic background.
This is my biggest problem with people that look for and find racism everywhere, it quashes everyone's ability to talk and debate.
I can start listing off the races and ethnicities of everyone that committed an atrocious act in the US but that doesn't mean I'm a racist or that I don't like or respect that particular race.
People that search for racism do nothing but stir the pot and ultimately that's bad for everyone.
These days one does not have to go looking for it to find it. It quite frequently jumps up and smacks you in the face.
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What does Iraq have to do with Arabs killing thousands of Americans on American soil? Didn't you get the Pentagon's memo?
Yes, of course I've heard all about it. My point was we do not know who could have done anything better after the attacks because this current situation is our reality.
basically, keeping to the topic, Al Sharpton instigates hate and I'm not at all surprised by the news that he is getting deaths threats.
Does anyone have te link to Sharpton apologizing to the Duke kids that he caused such a problem about?? No because it doesn't exist.
The guy is an idiot and anyone that follws him is a moron.
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Yes, of course I've heard all about it. My point was we do not know who could have done anything better after the attacks because this current situation is our reality.
So we should react upon instinct and go after whoever? The reality is that we invaded a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 and was no real threat to US citizens, yet keep close ties with Saudia Arabia and Pakistan. Majority of the hijackers were saudi and trained in pakistan.. :-\
I agree that Sharpton is an idiot.. Instead of easing racial tensions I say he's adding to them via his bullshit race bating.
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So we should react upon instinct and go after whoever? The reality is that we invaded a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 and was no real threat to US citizens, yet keep close ties with Saudia Arabia and Pakistan. Majority of the hijackers were saudi and trained in pakistan.. :-\
I agree that Sharpton is an idiot.. Instead of easing racial tensions I say he's adding to them via his bullshit race bating.
No, of course the usa shouldn't do that, but it was done.
I don't know if any other president could have done it different or better, no one does because unfortunately this is our reality.
If Bush could go back and do it differently don't you think he would, knowing what he knows? Unfortuantely that isn't a possibility.
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whatever..sharpton sucks donkey dick
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No, of course the usa shouldn't do that, but it was done.
I don't know if any other president could have done it different or better, no one does because unfortunately this is our reality.
At this point, I'm beginning to think aan organ grinder's monkey could have done it better.
If Bush could go back and do it differently don't you think he would, knowing what he knows? Unfortuantely that isn't a possibility.
I doubt he would. He hates do-overs.
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Because he's not an elected public official.
This smells like a publicity stunt from someone who sees the spotlight about to fade.
Al Sharpton is just a looking to always capitalize on other people's misfortune. He is the worst kind garbage oppurtunist.
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I won't be surprised if gets another radio show soon.
Hopefully the end is near for people like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakahn. We truly do not need evil, divisive, self-serving creeps like these guys. I would hope even Judi would admit that these men are only out for themselves.
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Hopefully the end is near for people like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakahn. We truly do not need evil, divisive, self-serving creeps like these guys. I would hope even Judi would admit that these men are only out for themselves.
I've already made my position clear on these individuals.
The question is not whether they are great humanitarians or opportunistic scum,
...the question is, as an American citizen plagued by death threats, should Sharpton not be afforded protection?
I believe he should be.
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Hopefully the end is near for people like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakahn. We truly do not need evil, divisive, self-serving creeps like these guys. I would hope even Judi would admit that these men are only out for themselves.
Yeah i agree. Never thought much of those guys.
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I've already made my position clear on these individuals.
The question is not whether they are great humanitarians or opportunistic scum,
...the question is, as an American citizen plagued by death threats, should Sharpton not be afforded protection?
I believe he should be.
He can probably afford his own, but a squad car parked in front of his house might be nice ;D
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Al Sharpton is just a looking to always capitalize on other people's misfortune.
Sorta like the American contractors in Iraq.
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Hopefully the end is near for people like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakahn. We truly do not need evil, divisive, self-serving creeps like these guys. I would hope even Judi would admit that these men are only out for themselves.
What are you going to do if Farrakhan's successor in the Nation of Islam turns out to be someone like Gordon B. Hinckley?
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...the question is, as an American citizen plagued by death threats, should Sharpton not be afforded protection?
I believe he should be.
It would be impractical to provide round-the-clock police protection to everyone who ever received a death threat. Earlier today, I overheard someone say that she was going to kill her girlfriend. I didn't report the incident, but what if the girl turns up dead tomorrow?
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Then you're gonna feel worse than s#iT dude. :(
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What are you going to do if Farrakhan's successor in the Nation of Islam turns out to be someone like Gordon B. Hinckley?
Tre, isn't Mr. Farrakhan the glue that holds his movement together? Will the Nation of Islam outlive him?
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Sorta like the American contractors in Iraq.
Tre, you can't blame the guy who is driving a truck trying to feed his family working for one of these big companies in Iraq. Even though I disagree with the war billions of American dollars are being poured into rebuilding Iraq. This benefits many, many ordinary Iraqi citizens.
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Tre, isn't Mr. Farrakhan the glue that holds his movement together? Will the Nation of Islam outlive him?
If he had been killed (or had died) 15 years ago, I would expected a great deal of unrest while a new 'prophet' was brought to power. Now, though, I believe they've got his successorship all set up, although I cannot say for certain who will fill his position when he does indeed pass on.
As long as there are Black men in prison, the Nation of Islam will live on.
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I've already made my position clear on these individuals.
The question is not whether they are great humanitarians or opportunistic scum,
...the question is, as an American citizen plagued by death threats, should Sharpton not be afforded protection?
I believe he should be.
Jag, how familiar are you with the Tawana Brawley incident?
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Tre, isn't Mr. Farrakhan the glue that holds his movement together? Will the Nation of Islam outlive him?
It outlived Malcolm X
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Tre, you can't blame the guy who is driving a truck trying to feed his family working for one of these big companies in Iraq. Even though I disagree with the war billions of American dollars are being poured into rebuilding Iraq. This benefits many, many ordinary Iraqi citizens.
The problem is that we wrecked their country to set up our businessmen with huge contracts. And I use the term 'our' loosely, because we can't even be certain that these companies will pay a fair share of taxes, even though we financed their invasion of Iraq.
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It outlived Malcolm X
Well, not really. It is an off-shoot.
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Tre, you can't blame the guy who is driving a truck trying to feed his family working for one of these big companies in Iraq. Even though I disagree with the war billions of American dollars are being poured into rebuilding Iraq. This benefits many, many ordinary Iraqi citizens.
{ROTFLMAO}
Hahahahahaha Ahahahah. I almost fell off my chair laughing. No wonder you've been so quiet lately.
Bmacsys, you have single handedly restored my faith in the ability of Americans to see the forest in spite of all those pesky trees
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It outlived Malcolm X
Read a few different accounts of his assassination:
http://www.criticalreading.com/malcolm.htm
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Tre, I'm not sure what you're getting at. ???
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{ROTFLMAO}
Hahahahahaha Ahahahah. I almost fell off my chair laughing. No wonder you've been so quiet lately.
Bmacsys, you have single handedly restored my faith in the ability of Americans to see the forest in spite of all those pesky trees
I have been quiet because to lately it seems all the topics in these forums are just rehashing stuff we have beat to death. As far as the war, at first I figured it would be over quick and Iraq would be a better place because of it. As it has dragged on I see it was a huge waste without any real thought or planning done at the outset. I think that the men who started this war now owe it to the Iraqi people to follow this thing through. We can't just leave and let Iraq melt down into a place run by murdering thugs like Sadr or whatever his name is.
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ABC news reported that since Sharpton called for the firing of Imus he has revieced massive amounts of death threats and has had to hire additional security teams. The NYPD has also pitched in and taken on securing rhyme master Sharpton.
Is it right that tax dollars are going into securing Sharpton?
Imus received death threats for supporting a black senator in Tennessee, in return the senator turned his back on Imus and demanded he be fired. I guess sharpton feels what Imus has felt in the past. But good grief, a few words has turned into death threats, what a crazy society kids of today has turned this world into.
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Imus received death threats for supporting a black senator in Tennessee, in return the senator turned his back on Imus and demanded he be fired. I guess sharpton feels what Imus has felt in the past. But good grief, a few words has turned into death threats, what a crazy society kids of today has turned this world into.
Harold Ford Jr.
Imus was one of his biggest supporters. he conveniently was unavailable for comment in the week after the Imus line. Then, once he was fired, harold was all about criticizing Imus. I guess he'll support Imus as long as he can get tv time, but once political tide turns, he turns.
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Imus received death threats for supporting a black senator in Tennessee, in return the senator turned his back on Imus and demanded he be fired. I guess sharpton feels what Imus has felt in the past. But good grief, a few words has turned into death threats, what a crazy society kids of today has turned this world into.
:o Kids ? You're gonna blame the crazy society on kids? ???
Adults created this mess. The kids are just living in it... and it's the kids who are most likely going to have to turn it rightside up again.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Imus was one of his biggest supporters. he conveniently was unavailable for comment in the week after the Imus line. Then, once he was fired, harold was all about criticizing Imus. I guess he'll support Imus as long as he can get tv time, but once political tide turns, he turns.
I don't like disloyalty.
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He looks like James Brown's illegit son. What an ugly mofo.
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sharpton is a great man.
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sharpton is a great man.
::) ::) ::) That was a good joke.
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::) ::) ::) That was a good joke.
Im serious ???
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sharpton is a great man.
Great at what? Sturing up shitstorms that bring him and Jesse into the center of attention?
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Great at what? Sturing up shitstorms that bring him and Jesse into the center of attention?
They are good at capitalizing on others misfortunes. Kind of like being a bloodsucking leach.
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Well if people act right(white people), then none of this will happen. I find it funny when white people say that a racist remark about a black person didnt offend them. It shouldnt, your not black. ::)
Don Imidiot wasnt just talking about black women, but he was talking about all women. How would you feel if you had a young daughter athlete that was called that by Don Imidiot.
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Well if people act right(white people), then none of this will happen. I find it funny when white people say that a racist remark about a black person didnt offend them. It shouldnt, your not black. ::)
Don Imidiot wasnt just talking about black women, but he was talking about all women. How would you feel if you had a young daughter athlete that was called that by Don Imidiot.
Many people are placing emphasis on the racist aspect of the slur, ...forgetting the sexist nature of it as well.
In many circles, people see nothing wrong with attacking a woman based on sexuality. Forget the nappy comment, ...he also called them hos, and he offended alot of women as well. Most of the people who I have seen get all bent out of shape over the firing have predominantly been white males, who for the most part, just don't seem to get it. Most cite their hatred of Shapton as their reason for their upset. Hello... the man did something very wrong. Whether it was Sharpton, or someone else who pressed the issue is irrelevant. The fact remains, he made a mistake and is paying the price for it. end of story. We should all now let the man rebuild himself in peace without his name being associated with even more useless hatred.
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Well if people act right(white people), then none of this will happen. I find it funny when white people say that a racist remark about a black person didnt offend them. It shouldnt, your not black. ::)
Don Imidiot wasnt just talking about black women, but he was talking about all women. How would you feel if you had a young daughter athlete that was called that by Don Imidiot.
You could say that about black people in any situation.
Examples:
92 Riots
01 Lakers' Win
What did that accomplish but reinforcing stereotypes?
Imus was fine, it was who he attacked. He made comments about MExicans and Asians and never had problems. Go figure.
Many people are placing emphasis on the racist aspect of the slur, ...forgetting the sexist nature of it as well.
In many circles, people see nothing wrong with attacking a woman based on sexuality. Forget the nappy comment, ...he also called them hos, and he offended alot of women as well. Most of the people who I have seen get all bent out of shape over the firing have predominantly been white males, who for the most part, just don't seem to get it. Most cite their hatred of Shapton as their reason for their upset. Hello... the man did something very wrong. Whether it was Sharpton, or someone else who pressed the issue is irrelevant. The fact remains, he made a mistake and is paying the price for it. end of story. We should all now let the man rebuild himself in peace without his name being associated with even more useless hatred.
DO you EVER listen to rap music? Good lord. They say that shit left and right yet it is okay...F-ing Hypocrisy.
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DO you EVER listen to rap music?
no.
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well, look at the lyrics and see how YOUR own people degrade themselves and their women
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well, look at the lyrics and see how YOUR own people degrade themselves and their women
Why would I look at the lyrics when I've already chosen not to listen to them.
as for the "YOUR own people degrade themselves and their women" comment, ...like I said I don't listen to rap, and I don't align myself with people based upon race. There are things people have in common that transcends things such as race, ...but small immature minds would probably not grasp such a thing.
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Why would I look at the lyrics when I've already chosen not to listen to them.
as for the "YOUR own people degrade themselves and their women" comment, ...like I said I don't listen to rap, and I don't align myself with people based upon race. There are things people have in common that transcends things such as race, ...but small immature minds would probably not grasp such a thing.
So you are a regular Imus listener? You talk about being a black woman and seem to think of yourself as empowered. Well, why not empower other black women to not be subjected to that crap and to fight against it instead of hiding discrimination under the guise of "CULTURE" because Rap is not cultured at all and makes blacks look ignorant. If you want to transcend race and look at sex/gender then as a WOMAN fight against that shit with Imus and Snoop Dogg. None of the Rutgers girls seem to want to take on the rap community but are willing to get an old white dude fired.
BTW, anyone that thinks Sharpton is a good guy or Jackson for that matter, look deeper and see their true colors. Quotas for all, keeping qualified candidates out just to fill a Token Spot.
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Why would I look at the lyrics when I've already chosen not to listen to them.
as for the "YOUR own people degrade themselves and their women" comment, ...like I said I don't listen to rap, and I don't align myself with people based upon race. There are things people have in common that transcends things such as race, ...but small immature minds would probably not grasp such a thing.
did you choose to listen to Imus' show? The opint is that he said nothing that isn't said 100 times on any rap CD, yet no one pressures rappers to change their lyrics. Constantly if a white person makes the racist remark it's a shitstorm, if the remark is made by a "minority" it seems to be OK. If you disagree, that's fine, but explain why Imus should be fired, when if he was black the comment would never have been given notice, he wouldn't even of had to apologize because no one would have cared.
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did you choose to listen to Imus' show? The opint is that he said nothing that isn't said 100 times on any rap CD, yet no one pressures rappers to change their lyrics. Constantly if a white person makes the racist remark it's a shitstorm, if the remark is made by a "minority" it seems to be OK. If you disagree, that's fine, but explain why Imus should be fired, when if he was black the comment would never have been given notice, he wouldn't even of had to apologize because no one would have cared.
Exactly. One lib professor I have (not that I needed to qualify that) said it's because the black people saying them have no power. I think Jesse Jackson has as much power as Imus and his Hymietown comment is more offensive than Imus'. I don't see any Jews asking him to step down for past comments.
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that's my biggest issue. the fact that these guys (blacks) can go on CD saying any racial slur they want about any race or religion, and Sharpton/Jackson won't jump up and throw a fit. A white guy says nappy headed hos and he's got a target on his back a mile wide. Reverse racism at its finest.
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that's my biggest issue. the fact that these guys (blacks) can go on CD saying any racial slur they want about any race or religion, and Sharpton/Jackson won't jump up and throw a fit. A white guy says nappy headed hos and he's got a target on his back a mile wide. Reverse racism at its finest.
Tell me about it. Rosie Freakin O'Donnell never heard shit but if she called Star Jones "Mammy" then she would have definitely heard some s_hit.
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There is a big distinction you seem to be forgetting... as distasteful as it may be, rap lyrics are not directed at specific individuals. Imus directed his comments at specific people. In any event, it was his employers who had the last word, not Sharpton. If you have a problem with that take it up with his employers not me.
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There is a big distinction you seem to be forgetting... as distasteful as it may be, rap lyrics are not directed at specific individuals. Imus directed his comments at specific people. In any event, it was his employers who had the last word, not Sharpton. If you have a problem with that take it up with his employers not me.
I thought you transcend race. Anyway, it does target people. It targets lower class Blacks and middle class Whites and tells them that women are sluts, bitches, hos and to devalue them. Who is doing the greater harm?
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There is a big distinction you seem to be forgetting... as distasteful as it may be, rap lyrics are not directed at specific individuals. Imus directed his comments at specific people. In any event, it was his employers who had the last word, not Sharpton. If you have a problem with that take it up with his employers not me.
Just curious as to why most blacks find it acceptable for rappers/hiphop to use racist terms towards their own race/ women but it is offensive if a white guy says the same thing. rap lyrics are directed specifically at black women.
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Just curious as to why most blacks find it acceptable for rappers/hiphop to use racist terms towards their own race/ women but it is offensive if a white guy says the same thing. rap lyrics are directed specifically at black women.
Perhaps your question is best directed towards those who find it acceptable.
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Perhaps your question is best directed towards those who find it acceptable.
Perhaps you can explain the hypocrisy, being that you are Black and a Woman. Perhaps it was not a big deal. Perhaps Jackson and Sharpton need to get a real life/job.
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Perhaps you can explain the hypocrisy, being that you are Black and a Woman. Perhaps it was not a big deal. Perhaps Jackson and Sharpton need to get a real life/job.
Perhaps this might help to soothe your jangled nerves.
(http://www.mises.org/images3/pacifier.jpg)
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Perhaps this might help to soothe your jangled nerves.
(http://www.mises.org/images3/pacifier.jpg)
and we were going along so nicely........
do we get dirty now? :P
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Perhaps this might help to soothe your jangled nerves.
(http://www.mises.org/images3/pacifier.jpg)
Perhaps you can act your age not your IQ. Perhaps you can actually stand by your argument or admit you are arguing a point you cannot win.
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Perhaps you can act your age not your IQ. Perhaps you can actually stand by your argument or admit you are arguing a point you cannot win.
some people, no matter how bad they are losing an argument, would never admit defeat. If that was the case the truce thread on G&O would have been long gone. We are all guilty of this at some point. I would however like an answer to why Sharpton/Jackson don't go after rappers/hiphop the way they do whites.
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Perhaps you can act your age not your IQ. Perhaps you can actually stand by your argument or admit you are arguing a point you cannot win.
Suppose you tell me what point it is you think I am arguing?
You are why children are not allowed to run with scissors.
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some people, no matter how bad they are losing an argument, would never admit defeat. If that was the case the truce thread on G&O would have been long gone. We are all guilty of this at some point. I would however like an answer to why Sharpton/Jackson don't go after rappers/hiphop the way they do whites.
So why not ask Sharpton or Jackson. Why are you bothering me with such a question? See reply #99
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Suppose you tell me what point it is you think I am arguing?
You are why children are not allowed to run with scissors.
You love getting personal with me over everyone else except maybe MM. WHy is that? You say that this is a big deal in terms of race and gender when MANY more people say racist/sexist stuff yet you attack a white man saying stuff black men say everyday.
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So why not ask Sharpton or Jackson. Why are you bothering me with such a question? See reply #99
You are, I assume, black and a woman, so I was only looking for your opinion or some insight as to what you thought the reasons were, Sorry to offend you by asking, should have known you'd be offended by a white guy asking questions of a black woman. ::)
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You love getting personal with me over everyone else except maybe MM. WHy is that? You say that this is a big deal in terms of race and gender when MANY more people say racist/sexist stuff yet you attack a white man saying stuff black men say everyday.
Show me where I have attacked Imus.
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You are, I assume, black and a woman, so I was only looking for your opinion or some insight as to what you thought the reasons were, Sorry to offend you by asking, should have known you'd be offended by a white guy asking questions of a black woman. ::)
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That was probably one of the most pathetic attempts to play the race card that I have ever seen.
Maybe you should study Sharpton & Jackson a little closer. You might learn a few things.
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Show me where I have attacked Imus.
Even saying he should have been suspended (which you did) and not calling out rappers shows some hypocrisy IMO. I'm not going to do a song and dance with you because you and I don't ever agree. I'll leave it at that because I'm not gonna get heated and get personal like the past.
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Even saying he should have been suspended (which you did) and not calling out rappers shows some hypocrisy IMO. I'm not going to do a song and dance with you because you and I don't ever agree. I'll leave it at that because I'm not gonna get heated and get personal like the past.
Even Imus agreed with his own suspension. I voice my displeasure with an entertainers work by not buying his CDs.
If you have a problem with Imus being fired, again, ...I suggest you take it up with his employers.
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Even Imus agreed with his own suspension. I voice my displeasure with an entertainers work by not buying his CDs.
If you have a problem with Imus being fired, again, ...I suggest you take it up with his employers.
I doubt anyone agrees with their own suspensions. I think Voicing concerns makes a statement.
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I doubt anyone agrees with their own suspensions. I think Voicing concerns makes a statement.
I guess you missed that portion of the interview then. but yes, I mus agreed his suspension was justified.
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I guess you missed that portion of the interview then. but yes, I mus agreed his suspension was justified.
hmmm...I wouldn't agree with it and in order to save face, people say they do. Simple face-saving behaviors. Read a COM book if you don't believe me. I know you like to think I am dumb but I am well read on many things.
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That was probably one of the most pathetic attempts to play the race card that I have ever seen.
Maybe you should study Sharpton & Jackson a little closer. You might learn a few things.
HAHAHA trying to understand a different races way of thinking/justifying is now playing the race card? ::)
suppose you don't get sarcasm, huh? kinda like the pacifier. As far as learning anything from those two. The only thing I take away from them is that I should try to bury my race in the past and attack other races at any opportunity and at all costs.
Thanks for the insight into the black community, now I know why...... :-\
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hmmm...I wouldn't agree with it and in order to save face, people say they do. Simple face-saving behaviors. Read a COM book if you don't believe me. I know you like to think I am dumb but I am well read on many things.
I don't think you're dumb, ...I think you're an inexperienced child, ...and an annoying one at that.
3, 2, 1... MUTE!
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I don't think you're dumb, ...I think you're an inexperienced child, ...and an annoying one at that.
3, 2, 1... MUTE!
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hmmm...I wouldn't agree with it and in order to save face, people say they do. Simple face-saving behaviors. Read a COM book if you don't believe me. I know you like to think I am dumb but I am well read on many things.
So you are saying if you had a daughter that played sports and you heard imus call her and her teammates "hoes" that wouldnt make you upset?
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So you are saying if you had a daughter that played sports and you heard imus call her and her teammates "hoes" that wouldnt make you upset?
did Imus name a specific person or just the team of females?
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So you are saying if you had a daughter that played sports and you heard imus call her and her teammates "hoes" that wouldnt make you upset?
No, never entered my mind at all. I thought it was funny like all his other comments.
I don't think you're dumb, ...I think you're an inexperienced child, ...and an annoying one at that.
3, 2, 1... MUTE!
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did Imus name a specific person or just the team of females?
team
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No, never entered my mind at all. I thought it was funny like all his other comments.
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So if you had a daugther under the age of 18 and was called a hoe by Imus you would just laugh? ::)
I hope you dont have kids, or ever have them.
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So if you had a daugther under the age of 18 and was called a hoe by Imus you would just laugh? ::)
I hope you dont have kids, or ever have them.
Were any of them under 18? I was under the impression that at this point in the year, even most college freshman would be 18.
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So if you had a daugther under the age of 18 and was called a hoe by Imus you would just laugh? ::)
I hope you dont have kids, or ever have them.
Dude it dosent really matter....The fact remains. Sharpton caused a media uproar for nothin and a man is fired...He says "we are not here to bring down imus, but rather to uplift decency" Are you shittin me. If that were the case, The stuff that 50cents says is pretty incedecent. Dont see sharpton calling interscope to drop him from their label...Sharpton sets the black race a few steps back IMO. BEcause he wants to start uproars over little 15 sec soundbytes and crusade for that. But My highschool back in LA (mostly black and hispanic) is extremely over crowded and understaffed and undersupplied...If you want a media uproar...start with that...But nooooo, that might be too much like work. He would serve us better if he uses his celeb for innercity school funding or a million other causes...But because an old ass white man said nappy headed hoes. you want him fired...Not taking into account the things he does with his money with his ranch and everything...He really gets out there does charitable work...If there is one... someone pull up the al sharpton foundation.
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Were any of them under 18? I was under the impression that at this point in the year, even most college freshman would be 18.
No but if he is willing to call females that, it doesnt what age they are.
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Dude it dosent really matter....The fact remains. Sharpton caused a media uproar for nothin and a man is fired...He says "we are not here to bring down imus, but rather to uplift decency" Are you shittin me. If that were the case, The stuff that 50cents says is pretty incedecent. Dont see sharpton calling interscope to drop him from their label...Sharpton sets the black race a few steps back IMO. BEcause he wants to start uproars over little 15 sec soundbytes and crusade for that. But My highschool back in LA (mostly black and hispanic) is extremely over crowded and understaffed and undersupplied...If you want a media uproar...start with that...But nooooo, that might be too much like work. He would serve us better if he uses his celeb for innercity school funding or a million other causes...But because an old ass white man said nappy headed hoes. you want him fired...Not taking into account the things he does with his money with his ranch and everything...He really gets out there does charitable work...If there is one... someone pull up the al sharpton foundation.
I'm sorry I don't listen to rap but if you are going to use that reference then you cant win. So just because Imus has gave money to the poor that justifies him of using racists and sexist terms towards women?
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I'm sorry I don't listen to rap but if you are going to use that reference then you cant win. So just because Imus has gave money to the poor that justifies him of using racists and sexist terms towards women?
ok rookie..check it out...comment on everything if youre gonna comment
1. Dont try to act ignorant to the fact that there are rappers that use guy bitch and hoes in their songs..
so my comment was to investigate Sharptons Motives for pursuing this Imus issue. He said it was to promote decency...which is a crock because black rappers say far worse and he isnt promoting decency there...thats the first thing
2. For Imus' statements. I dont think he should have lost his job. For a 15 sec sound byte he is fired! They didnt investigate the whole man before they make a decision like that. I didnt say "his ranch justifies his comments" his first ammendment rights justify his comments. Plain and simple. Im a black man and might be the most pro black here but i know crap when i smell it. Why we are chacing 15 sec sound bytes (black comedians say far worse) there are real huge injustices that get overlooked. Because they are too hard to rectify (sp). Arguing with a guy on the radio is easy...Getting out and organizing something (other than a march) is tough.
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Is Sharpton dead yet?
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ok rookie..check it out...comment on everything if youre gonna comment
1. Dont try to act ignorant to the fact that there are rappers that use #### bitch and hoes in their songs..
so my comment was to investigate Sharptons Motives for pursuing this Imus issue. He said it was to promote decency...which is a crock because black rappers say far worse and he isnt promoting decency there...thats the first thing
2. For Imus' statements. I dont think he should have lost his job. For a 15 sec sound byte he is fired! They didnt investigate the whole man before they make a decision like that. I didnt say "his ranch justifies his comments" his first ammendment rights justify his comments. Plain and simple. Im a black man and might be the most pro black here but i know crap when i smell it. Why we are chacing 15 sec sound bytes (black comedians say far worse) there are real huge injustices that get overlooked. Because they are too hard to rectify (sp). Arguing with a guy on the radio is easy...Getting out and organizing something (other than a march) is tough.
Actually Big_mal, this is slightly innaccurate. Sharpton has announced he will be targetting the rap industry so as not to be inconnsistent. I believe him. I think he'll be as consistent as ever, and milk it for all it's worth.
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Actually Big_mal, this is slightly innaccurate. Sharpton has announced he will be targetting the rap industry so as not to be inconnsistent. I believe him. I think he'll be as consistent as ever, and milk it for all it's worth.
even if he does...(which i highly doubt) i just want "movements" of more substance with outcomes of a bigger impact...I can care less about rap and shit...Make better schools in the innercity...Have that be your target...
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even if he does...(which i highly doubt) i just want "movements" of more substance with outcomes of a bigger impact...I can care less about rap and shit...Make better schools in the innercity...Have that be your target...
{LOL} Big Mal, you're not getting it are you? The man is being consistent. ;D
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{LOL} Big Mal, you're not getting it are you? The man is being consistent. ;D
Rap has been around wayyyy longer than imus...His intentions arent good. He jumped on this imus thing 2 days after it happend...Rap has been indecent since 1991 (birth of gangsta rap)..He hasnt
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Let's get a new thread for the rap music topic.
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Rap has been around wayyyy longer than imus...His intentions arent good. He jumped on this imus thing 2 days after it happend...Rap has been indecent since 1991 (birth of gangsta rap)..He hasnt
But if he jumps on this, stirs up a hornet's nest, get's glorified in the media and gets his ego stroked and increases his ratings, basically creating another shit storm of controversy, with people arguing and getting all upset... the whole time serious issues are not even being addressed, ...would he not be as consistent as ever?
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Let's get a new thread for the rap music topic.
There is one already started http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=142671.0
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All I want from Sharpten and Jackson is a apology for what they did to the Duke kids...then disappear.
I just read on muscle mayhem about another attack by black guys on white girl and guy...they raped both, cut off thier genitals (breast and penis) poured chemicals down the girls throat and set them on fire and shot them..
An attack of the same nature without the extra brutality happened on Long Island, ny this year.
Where are ya sharpten.
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But if he jumps on this, stirs up a hornet's nest, get's glorified in the media and gets his ego stroked and increases his ratings, basically creating another shit storm of controversy, with people arguing and getting all upset... the whole time serious issues are not even being addressed, ...would he not be as consistent as ever?
Im saying this...I can care less about imus or rap music...but i was just lookin at sharptons intentions. He stated that decency was his main goal. And if it is how does he pick and choose...I wish he would just say f it and instead od getting mad when someone says nappy headed hoes....help change the system (a la Dr. Martin luther king) so a dumb ass statememt like that isnt even given a second thought...
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That would require a certain about of integrity wouldn't it? I suppose you now have your answer huh? :P
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There is one already started http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=142671.0
Thanks, Jag.
Any way we can move that here to Politics?
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Thanks, Jag.
Any way we can move that here to Politics?
done
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=142721.0