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Title: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 16, 2007, 06:27:08 PM
DOES ANYONE HAVE INFO ON HOW GH WORKS FOR WOMAN. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT USED IT AND IT WORKED GREAT FOR THEM. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO START SEEING RESULTS ECT.?
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: 4thAD on April 16, 2007, 08:18:17 PM
Wow just like a woman always yelling at me! JK JERSEYGIRL57 welcome aboard. I see its your first post. Ill let someone else handle this one just thought I'd say hello!
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 16, 2007, 08:31:09 PM
Great for fat loss effects, typically 1iu/ed will suffice for most women. Hard to say how long it will take to see effects, probably a couple of months of good steady use.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: freakfestMD on April 17, 2007, 05:31:28 AM
Great for fat loss effects, typically 1iu/ed will suffice for most women. Hard to say how long it will take to see effects, probably a couple of months of good steady use.

Yes--it may take a while to notice that very attractive enlargement of your jaw and forehead.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 17, 2007, 08:48:53 AM
Yes--it may take a while to notice that very attractive enlargement of your jaw and forehead.
Come on now Freak, 1iu/ed is not going to cause that. No one experiences skeletal enlargement from GH unless they are running high doses for long periods of time, i.e. year after year, after year. For a woman this would probably fall around the 4iu+ category, while a male somewhere in the 8+ realm of things.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 17, 2007, 10:06:30 AM
Thanks for the replies...:)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 17, 2007, 11:28:04 AM
Thanks for the replies...:)
No problem.

Do you plan on running anything else with this? If so I'd like to see your plan. Also, are you into comps and if so, what type? Just curiouse.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 17, 2007, 12:11:27 PM
no just trying to lose like 10 lbs or so. im taking between 1 and 2 ius a day. my friends that have used it look amazing so im curious to see how it works for me. i workout 5-6 days a week. i dont do comps.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on April 17, 2007, 12:20:32 PM
1 Iu will do nothing.

Each iu should raise you igf a hundred points...that would give a person with 200, 300 igf...but depending on age and duration you will cease natural production so the igf level will go down.

2 iu used for a long time is definitly enough to cause cartilage growth in women...NO DOUBT.  Simply take a look at the figure competitors that have ruined their natural femal appearance by using a couple iu for years at a time.

cartilage is very sensitive...the brow of the eye will thicken, the cartilage under the chin will thicking giving a double chin appearance, the nose will thicken, the hands a fett will thicken, then later tyhe intestines will thicken as well as bone grwoth in the mandible...Take a look at Monica brant over the years...it's called under bite and simply compare a figure girl (pro) to a normal girl with normal features.

If you want to lose ten pounds can't you just diet?  It's real simple...just eat chicken, vegtaqbles, eggs, fish a slalad for a couple months and you'll have no fat.....

That's alot cheaper and more effective than gh.

Gh is good for health at a iu a day but no one does that and for bodybuilding or fat loss results it won't do much...definitly not as much as a simple diet will.   
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 17, 2007, 12:42:49 PM
first of all, i dont plan on using  it for a couple years. i plan on using it for about 3 months. and 1- 2 ius a day does work because i know people who have used it and i do diet. i posted this to get replies from people who actually know what they are talking about!!!
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Rimbaud on April 17, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
I've never used HGH/GH but from what I understand you need to use it for about six months to see the full benefits.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 17, 2007, 01:57:20 PM
thanks. is your name josh?
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on April 17, 2007, 02:24:26 PM

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 i posted this to get replies from people who actually know what they are talking about!!!
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This is me from age 16, after winning or placing top 3 in my first 3 shows starteing at age 15 and then again from my last show in 2003.

Do you think I know what I'm talking about?

I just try to give you legit advice because the drug use is out of hand and girls look ridiculous.

There are figure girls that have used tons of stuff and still do not have any real muscle....

Diet and hard training will get you a great physique, if like me, you work your ass off and you can still look feminine.

I've trained people since I'm 16 years old, competitors and all and there isn't much I haven't seen. 

I do agree that people giving recommendations should have to post their pix so we can see where it is coming from.

I guess it's good that the people I've trained to win shows thought I knew what I was talking about, huh?

I professional wrestle now and when the real deal teaches me something I listen...it would be ignorant to do anything less, you agree?
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Rimbaud on April 17, 2007, 02:28:54 PM
thanks. is your name josh?

Who are you refering to?
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: udeluz on April 17, 2007, 05:42:20 PM
I am by far an expert on GH, (infact I don't know enough to even speak on it)

But for 10 lbs, all you need to do is hook up your diet

If you need "a little" help try 40mcg of Clenbuteral for 2 weeks.


THE  KEY  IS  DIET.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: BuffGoddess on April 17, 2007, 08:32:42 PM
Hey Jerzey,
You don't want to do any more than 3 IU a day. Past that your joints will start hurting, particularly your hands. Long term effects are the "pregnant" look because your intestines and other organs are expanding. If you are not competing,  why take chances with all the side effects of the performance enhancing stuff? I'm sure you look great just as you are. Just concentrate on getting your diet in order. If you need help just ask. Good luck girl, and don't let anyone get you down...do your thing.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 17, 2007, 09:08:57 PM
Reply from Dave Palumbo

1 Iu will do nothing.

Each iu should raise you igf a hundred points...that would give a person with 200, 300 igf...but depending on age and duration you will cease natural production so the igf level will go down.
BULL CRAP!

2 iu used for a long time is definitly enough to cause cartilage growth in women...NO DOUBT.  Simply take a look at the figure competitors that have ruined their natural femal appearance by using a couple iu for years at a time.

cartilage is very sensitive...the brow of the eye will thicken, the cartilage under the chin will thicking giving a double chin appearance, the nose will thicken, the hands a fett will thicken, then later tyhe intestines will thicken as well as bone grwoth in the mandible...Take a look at Monica brant over the years...it's called under bite and simply compare a figure girl (pro) to a normal girl with normal features.
1IU is plenty for women, however, the girls who's faces have "changed" are due to the use of the wrong anabolic steroids (they screw you up much faster-- just listen to their voices)


If you want to lose ten pounds can't you just diet?  It's real simple...just eat chicken, vegtaqbles, eggs, fish a slalad for a couple months and you'll have no fat.....

That's alot cheaper and more effective than gh.

Gh is good for health at a iu a day but no one does that and for bodybuilding or fat loss results it won't do much...definitly not as much as a simple diet will.   

He's right. Diet is the MOST effective way to drop fat. However, 1IU GH will help increase fat losses.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 17, 2007, 09:20:54 PM
THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS. DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BAD SIDE EFFECTS FROM  2IU? 
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 17, 2007, 09:29:56 PM
THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS. DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BAD SIDE EFFECTS FROM  2IU? 
Maybe, maybe not, but always make prudent choices. Also, your main focus in using this is for fat loss and 1iu will aid in this. So I don't see any reason to take it any further. As cliche as it is to say, "more is not always better."
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on April 17, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
Reply from Dave Palumbo
BULL CRAP!
1IU is plenty for women, however, the girls who's faces have "changed" are due to the use of the wrong anabolic steroids (they screw you up much faster-- just listen to their voices)


He's right. Diet is the MOST effective way to drop fat. However, 1IU GH will help increase fat losses.

Arnold, that's what a forum is for, discussion, debate etc so I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me, ever.

I respect dave and his knowledge probably more than anyone else in bodybuilding and know him since he started training so once again, I'm ok with anyone disagreeing with me, but the basic guidline of 100 point increase igf from each unite is a measure derived from many studies from Dr.  Kotler (head aids doctor and main studier of hgh with hiv positive patients at st lukes hospital in ny).  Also from many studies written about in books like grow young with hgh.

From my own blood work i always received while using no more than 3-4 iu for 3 -4 months only I never went above 400igf....

Steroids do NOT cause the cartilage growth...hgh does...fact and Dave knows this regardkless of what he says.  Steroids (male hormones) do cause masculine effects, obviously, but not the cartilage thickening in the nose, brow, mandible hyoid etc.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: trab on April 19, 2007, 04:25:46 AM
THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS. DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BAD SIDE EFFECTS FROM  2IU? 

It may sound simple, but: You can allways up a dose. Taking it back out is the problem.
Patience is more important for the women. (and making SURE of what you've got in that vial :'()There are vast differences of guys reaction to AAS.
HGH is not gender specific though. It burns fat on me (Male) like wild fire.

Everyone needs understand what works for them may not for another.
I have very high respect for Jumbo Palumbo... talk about credibility, but I cant tolerate the cypionate he loves in high doses. Enanthate I could pump in w/ a turkey baster if I wanted.

Need SLOWLY find what works (and dont) for YOU :)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Luv2Hurt on April 19, 2007, 04:56:06 AM
Reply from Dave Palumbo
BULL CRAP!
1IU is plenty for women, however, the girls who's faces have "changed" are due to the use of the wrong anabolic steroids (they screw you up much faster-- just listen to their voices)


He's right. Diet is the MOST effective way to drop fat. However, 1IU GH will help increase fat losses.

AJ Its great to see Dave reply to posts here!  Maybe he will drop in from time to time?

Jump on the 1-2 IUs if you are ready and see how you like it for at least 6 months. Beaware you will be crossing over in to the world of drugs.  Do you really wanna go there? cause next is some Anavar, then more GH, maybe a very small dose of test...Thats how it goes?  But you will look marvelous  :D
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 19, 2007, 08:36:19 AM
AJ Its great to see Dave reply to posts here!  Maybe he will drop in from time to time?

Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I've been barking up that tree for a long time now and so far no dice. Besides, he's got his own forum and you can ask anything you want to over there...usually just general replies though.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: BIG_O on April 19, 2007, 08:46:22 AM
My wife has been running 1 iu Monday thru Friday for over a year now. GH's anti aging is second to none. My wife is only 34 but she has no wrinkles, her skin looks incredible, her health has improved (IE no sickness), her memory is increasing, eyesight acuity has improved (especially at night), she is really lean and all in all looks good.

The fat loss is noticeable even though my wife has never stepped foot in a gym. She is only 5 foot 2 and when she started she was 120 lbs. She is actually 115 now but leaner around the midsection.

It's funny to hear all the horror stories from people on GH making you look like a man. Funny how there are so many rejuvenation clinics in Beverly Hills and Miami huh. What do you guys think they sell there? What are all the women in Hollywood on?

I'd recommend 1 iu anyday of the week and twice today...........
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on April 19, 2007, 10:16:12 AM
As I said above, 1 iu is benificial for health (cardiovascular improvements, structural integrity improvements, ie cartilage in joints etc and appearance, ie skin integrity etc) however, rarely does a person use 1 iu a day.

Even the commonly studied anti aging doses are 1.6 iu a day.

Big O,  if your wife actually uses an iu a day that's great, but rarely will you see even figure girls using this much unless they have suffered side effects or actually listened to a friend that got side effects.

For example, the person asking this question doesn't even compete and is using 2 iu a day...obviously then her friends are probably doing at least the same or else why would she begin with a higher dose than them.  This is the most common thing seen.

The figure girls that use 1 iu probably do so after using more and developing symptoms of such use, jaw, brow, nose etc.  Rarely do they start off and stay at 1 iu a day.
 
For the people answering here, how many years have you been around this stuff?  I was learning about gh when genetec only had protropin...that was the 80's, alot longer than most.

Are you guys that answer different than me aware of the fact that some great doctors use gh in ONLY 3 injections to totally rebuild cartilage in an athletes joint? 

Dave Palumbo knows the effect of gh and knows that 1 iu (actually 1 iu not 1.5) is only used today because of the side effects suffered by those that used more(2 iu or more) a day and they learned from others mistakes and by the girls that actually got the side effects and backed off to a lower dose because of it....  Also, just check the scientific literature on gh and see for your selves that an iu will (basically) raise igf 100 points.

Fact is that a legit diet (chix and veggis) will do much more than gh at a unite (actual unit) per day for fat loss NOT health.

Jersey girl, you never answer my question, do you think, now that you've seen my pix, that I know what I'm talking about, hahahahah.  "Don't be so quick to assume", like Big O's avatar says in this thread.

People ask a question and when they don't get the answer they want they assume you don't know what your talking about.

Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Luv2Hurt on April 19, 2007, 02:11:40 PM
Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I've been barking up that tree for a long time now and so far no dice. Besides, he's got his own forum and you can ask anything you want to over there...usually just general replies though.

Yeah im sure he is pretty busy.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on April 19, 2007, 04:16:20 PM
IM NOT SAYING YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE, JUST DONT ASSUME THAT I AM GOING OVERBOARD LIKE SOME OF THE GIRLS OUT THERE. IM NOT PLANNING ON TAKING IT FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE A FEW FRIENDS WHO USED IT AND SWEAR BY IT AND THEY LOOK GREAT SO I WANT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS FOR ME. JUST WANTED TO GET SOME REPLIES OF WHAT OTHER PROPLE THINK ABOUT IT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HELPING ME OUT. :)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: trab on April 19, 2007, 04:43:01 PM
IM NOT SAYING YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE, JUST DONT ASSUME THAT I AM GOING OVERBOARD LIKE SOME OF THE GIRLS OUT THERE. IM NOT PLANNING ON TAKING IT FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE A FEW FRIENDS WHO USED IT AND SWEAR BY IT AND THEY LOOK GREAT SO I WANT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS FOR ME. JUST WANTED TO GET SOME REPLIES OF WHAT OTHER PROPLE THINK ABOUT IT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HELPING ME OUT. :)

Right, that's only smart. One point I'd make is w/the anabolics  (I know your not talking using them now)
It's such a crap-shoot as to what's really in the vial ???. For guys -no big deal. But a Gal using Cyp thinkin its Deca :'(.
Also, Anavar used to be a 2.5mg tablet.... think about that.

The girls really have to talk to others with actual experience with female users.  I dont have that, and neither do many others who are prolly all to willing to give advice on the subject. If I aint done it, or seen it done, I'm not commenting.
I hope others consider this before giving the women advice. I got no issue even if a woman WANTS to use Testo, but She ought to know what it is at least. Testing the stuff seems essential in my mind for women. 
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: 210 and growing on April 20, 2007, 01:23:28 AM
My wife has been running 1 iu Monday thru Friday for over a year now. GH's anti aging is second to none. My wife is only 34 but she has no wrinkles, her skin looks incredible, her health has improved (IE no sickness), her memory is increasing, eyesight acuity has improved (especially at night), she is really lean and all in all looks good.

The fat loss is noticeable even though my wife has never stepped foot in a gym. She is only 5 foot 2 and when she started she was 120 lbs. She is actually 115 now but leaner around the midsection.

It's funny to hear all the horror stories from people on GH making you look like a man. Funny how there are so many rejuvenation clinics in Beverly Hills and Miami huh. What do you guys think they sell there? What are all the women in Hollywood on?

I'd recommend 1 iu anyday of the week and twice today...........

See - no offence Big-O, but this is where i think it starts getting a little silly. Why would a 120lb woman want to take GH in order to just tighten up and lose a few lbs? She doesnt set foot in the gym, what is wrong with doing it the old fashioned way of just watching your diet and hitting up the gym a few times a week - she could then quite easily get down to 115 and be tighter, without taking anything. Dont get me wrong, im not against the use of drugs - i just cant get my head around why people just wouldnt put a little bit of work in instead. Now if she was a fat ass and was already hitting up the gym 3/4 times a week and not getting the desired results, then maybe i could understand the GH.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: trab on April 20, 2007, 08:11:20 AM
Reread my post. Do you honestly think I put my wife on GH to lose five pounds of fat? The five pounds or more of fat loss is a side benefit for what we were/are accomplishing.

The second and third sentences pretty much cover it.

"GH's anti aging.........."
"My wife is only 34......"

Get the point?



Agreed, common sense,
And the results are what you were looking for It seems safe to assume...

I'm 47. I feel the body really started slowing down @ around that 34yr point.
My limited experiences w/ HGH (male) are that small amts are healthy. It can cause joint pain if I ran the dose up,
but 2ius 2-3 times a week had very noticeable benefits. If it were cheaper, I'd use it regularly.
As far as the Gals go, we need look at real world results, not theory. Those w/ actual experience please continue to chime in.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: honest on April 20, 2007, 06:00:28 PM
1 Iu will do nothing.

Each iu should raise you igf a hundred points...that would give a person with 200, 300 igf...but depending on age and duration you will cease natural production so the igf level will go down.

2 iu used for a long time is definitly enough to cause cartilage growth in women...NO DOUBT.  Simply take a look at the figure competitors that have ruined their natural femal appearance by using a couple iu for years at a time.

cartilage is very sensitive...the brow of the eye will thicken, the cartilage under the chin will thicking giving a double chin appearance, the nose will thicken, the hands a fett will thicken, then later tyhe intestines will thicken as well as bone grwoth in the mandible...Take a look at Monica brant over the years...it's called under bite and simply compare a figure girl (pro) to a normal girl with normal features.

If you want to lose ten pounds can't you just diet?  It's real simple...just eat chicken, vegtaqbles, eggs, fish a slalad for a couple months and you'll have no fat.....

That's alot cheaper and more effective than gh.

Gh is good for health at a iu a day but no one does that and for bodybuilding or fat loss results it won't do much...definitly not as much as a simple diet will.   



Absloute shit, your an idiot, if that were true half of hollywood would be frankensteins, where do you people come up with such shit over 4iu a day in a single injection in some people can contribute to cartlidge growth but more than likely double figures are required in a single shot.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Overload on April 22, 2007, 11:44:21 AM
what do you guys think about injecting GH IM?

i know dave thinks this is the best way instead of sub-q.

Thanks.

8)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on April 22, 2007, 12:01:49 PM


Absloute shit, your an idiot, if that were true half of hollywood would be frankensteins, where do you people come up with such shit over 4iu a day in a single injection in some people can contribute to cartlidge growth but more than likely double figures are required in a single shot.

Your a moron and don't know what your talking about. 

Do you comprehend what you read?  Where did i say 1 iu will cause the extreme cartilage growth we're discussing?

What is your experience with gh and or bodybuilding/training etc...Post your pix and tell us the number of years you've competed and have first hand knowledge with your self and other competitors (male and female) to give your opinion.

I said that certain doctors are using gh in ONLY 3 injections to totally rebuild cartilage in joints that have been completely worn down....Do you want me to prove this?

I know this stuff from many perspectives; competitor, trainer (of both male female), athlete and rejuvination.

1 iu is great for a healthy person...I said that in my first or second post, however, the only people using 1 iu (for real) are the ones that got side effects and changed or learned from someone that did or a knowledgeable person.  Even the person making this post said she is starting with two iu...

For simple fat loss she will be dissappointed and would do better eating chicken, fish and green beans for two months.

2 iu in a young female with good cartilage used over time (year) can cause changes to the face and hands etc....If you deny that your the idiot. 
 
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 22, 2007, 12:54:21 PM
what do you guys think about injecting GH IM?

i know dave thinks this is the best way instead of sub-q.

Thanks.

8)
Either IM or sub-q works fine...just don't buy into the IV protocol some believe.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on April 25, 2007, 07:16:27 AM
DOES ANYONE HAVE INFO ON HOW GH WORKS FOR WOMAN. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT USED IT AND IT WORKED GREAT FOR THEM. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO START SEEING RESULTS ECT.?

I've worked with several girls who used GH, and most found that 2iu EOD or 1iu ED is the proper dose for most of them, regarding fat loss. I should mention that they also typically use T4 with it though.

Quote
what do you guys think about injecting GH IM?

You actually don't get a good absorbtion rate with IM vs/ Sub-Q, when the two are compared. I don't have the medical study on hand, but I'm positive that GH was studied in this manner and it was pretty much conclusive that it is better done sub-q. I can find & post the study if anyone's really interested.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on April 25, 2007, 01:35:27 PM
I've worked with several girls who used GH, and most found that 2iu EOD or 1iu ED is the proper dose for most of them, regarding fat loss. I should mention that they also typically use T4 with it though.
Do you find that using the t-4 in this case to be all that necessary? IF you do could you elaborate because so far I haven't been convinced that it is necessary.

You actually don't get a good absorbtion rate with IM vs/ Sub-Q, when the two are compared. I don't have the medical study on hand, but I'm positive that GH was studied in this manner and it was pretty much conclusive that it is better done sub-q. I can find & post the study if anyone's really interested.

Yes, post this study up.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Overload on April 25, 2007, 10:45:50 PM
Yes, i would like to see the study.

thanks.

 8)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on April 26, 2007, 04:43:28 AM
In this study, although the mean peaks of somatomedian is similar, there was a higher peak attained with sub-q injection...I don't know if that's enough to say one is better than the other (sub-q vs/ im), but all things being equal, I'd rather get a higher peak level of GH as opposed to a lower peak level...and the people who produce Humatrope (hGH) report that you get 12% better absolute bioavailability...which I think is pretty good, and a decent reason to use it Sub-Q over IM :

A comparison of subcutaneous and intramuscular administration of human growth hormone in the therapy of growth hormone deficiency

L Russo and WV Moore

The sc and im administration of human GH (hGH) was compared in the therapy of GH deficiency. The peak and integrated concentrations of hGH in the plasma of the patients were similar after sc and im injection of an initial dose (0.1 U/kg) of hGH. The peak hGH concentration occurred at 2 h in both groups. The posttreatment height velocity and the change in height velocity at 3-month intervals were also similar in the im and sc groups. The somatomedin generation test resulted in a higher mean peak of somatomedin C after sc injection; however, if the individual peaks of somatomedin C were averaged, there was no difference between sc and im injection. A cross-over at 9 months of therapy to determine patient acceptance of im vs. sc injections indicated overwhelming acceptance of the sc route. The antibody responses to hGH were similar in both groups. We conclude that sc injection of hGH is an effective and safe mode of therapy for GH deficiency. The lipoatrophy that occurred infrequently at the injection site can be eliminated by rotation of sites. Subcutaneous administration of hGH will be more acceptable by the patients with less pain and less noncompliance.

In addition, the information put out by the people who make humatrope (hGH) have reported in the pharmacokinetics portion of their research on hGH:

Pharmacokinetics: Absorption -- Humatrope has been studied following intramuscular, subcutaneous, and intravenous administration in adult volunteers. The absolute bioavailability of somatropin is 75% and 63% after subcutaneous and intramuscular administration, respectively.

(From the Humatrope pharmacokinetics information published by the company)
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on April 26, 2007, 10:42:43 AM
Do you find that using the t-4 in this case to be all that necessary? IF you do could you elaborate because so far I haven't been convinced that it is necessary.


Have you read this, yet?

http://www.anthony-roberts.com/th_gh.html

I wrote an article on T4+GH with a doctor, and he and I came to the conclusion that it's FAR superior to T3+GH or GH alone. It's actually taken hold in the AAS community and getting VERY popular.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on April 26, 2007, 11:46:18 AM
I have nothing to do with the RoidStore. I know the owner (I know many/most people in this industry) and he happens to advertise his products on many sites I write for....but I don't (and never have) earned a single penny from anything the RoidStore has ever sold.

Ever.

I'll be 100% frank, and say that if I earned the kind of money the RoidStore generates, I wouldn't even be posting on the internet, writing for a magazine, or even writing articles and developing my own line of supplements. I'd be retired within the year.

Actually, on more than one site, I've challenged people who claim I earn money from the roidstore to provide proof, and they've all mysteriously stopped posing once I asked for proof. Oh...all of them were/are affiliated with IBE, by the way.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Rimbaud on April 26, 2007, 02:38:09 PM
I have nothing to do with the RoidStore. I know the owner (I know many/most people in this industry) and he happens to advertise his products on many sites I write for....but I don't (and never have) earned a single penny from anything the RoidStore has ever sold.

Ever.

I'll be 100% frank, and say that if I earned the kind of money the RoidStore generates, I wouldn't even be posting on the internet, writing for a magazine, or even writing articles and developing my own line of supplements. I'd be retired within the year.

Actually, on more than one site, I've challenged people who claim I earn money from the roidstore to provide proof, and they've all mysteriously stopped posing once I asked for proof. Oh...all of them were/are affiliated with IBE, by the way.

Glad to hear you're not associated with those guys.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on April 27, 2007, 09:29:55 AM
Glad to hear you're not associated with those guys.

The owner of the RoidStore published my first book...but one has nothing to do with the other.

Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Rimbaud on April 27, 2007, 11:40:54 AM
The owner of the RoidStore published my first book...but one has nothing to do with the other.

True.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on May 06, 2007, 04:29:16 PM
okay, so its been almost a month of gh and these are my side effects so far lol  i have only been doing 1 iu like 5 days a week.  tingling in hands and lower legs, dizzy spells every once in a while and now cramping in lower legs. i know the tingling is normal but i still dont like feeling like this. lol not sure if i want to stay on it or not. hmmmm
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Arnold jr on May 06, 2007, 05:29:58 PM
okay, so its been almost a month of gh and these are my side effects so far lol  i have only been doing 1 iu like 5 days a week.  tingling in hands and lower legs, dizzy spells every once in a while and now cramping in lower legs. i know the tingling is normal but i still dont like feeling like this. lol not sure if i want to stay on it or not. hmmmm
Side effects should subside with time as your body gets more accustomed.

As for the dizzy spells, I assume you're dieting, since you've mentioned you want to lose some fat. Are you on a low carb style diet? The reason I ask is because on this type of diet your blood sugar levels will be all over the place, and when it drops bad a common side effect is dizziness or being light headed.

Also, on the leg cramps, have you dramatically cut out your sodium? If so, you've probably created a major electrolite imbalance, and if your taking potassium this will make it even worse. If you have done this, stop...there is no need to cut sodium unless it's right before a show...you need it other wise.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: Luv2Hurt on May 06, 2007, 05:43:48 PM
Controlling the sodium may not help you be your bigest or strongest but you will look a lot better, much less water retention.  There is tons of salt in some stuff, looks like im a dbol cycle or something after a lot of salt.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: JERSEYGIRL57 on May 07, 2007, 06:19:06 AM
i havent cut out sodium, i am dieting so how should i stop the lighthedeness? it kinda scary. i am taking in carbs just not alot. should i be eating carbs after i take the shot, should i be getting blood work done to make sure i dont have to much inn my system? i just dont like feeling that way. it comes on out of the blue and its not a good feeling. it kinda makes me want to stop taking the gh but i want to finish it out to see how it works but i also dont want to faint or anything cause nothing is worth that. its a weird feeling. its not your typical shakiness that you get from just low carbs with out using anything. so bottom line can i prevent this from happening? i was fine the first couple weeks . this started like a week and half ago. thanks for your help
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: trab on May 07, 2007, 06:28:28 AM
Ive never been Light Headed from HGH. Some Joint pain @ 6iu yes. No cramps ever either.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: hooker on May 11, 2007, 11:30:11 AM
okay, so its been almost a month of gh and these are my side effects so far lol  i have only been doing 1 iu like 5 days a week.  tingling in hands and lower legs, dizzy spells every once in a while and now cramping in lower legs. i know the tingling is normal but i still dont like feeling like this. lol not sure if i want to stay on it or not. hmmmm

Youre getting dizzy from blood sugar going too low. Can you post your diet? Do you carb cycle?
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: astro on May 14, 2007, 03:17:03 PM
does anyone know if gh will help nerve regeneration? my wife had her arm crushed at work and may never regain it's use.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: legbreaker on May 14, 2007, 03:20:02 PM
Yes it can, astro...especially igf.  Do a search on google on igf and nereves and I'm sure you'll find stuff.  It's actually been studied and used for this type iof treatment at least since early 90's with injuries, and some diseases.
Title: Re: GH FOR WOMAN
Post by: astro on May 14, 2007, 03:22:06 PM
hey thanks very much, the doctor's have pretty much thrown the towel in