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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Lugar on April 20, 2007, 05:38:29 AM
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I finish working out about 430pm. I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work. Problem: I have ZERO appetite postworkout. I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later. Then I'm stufed for the night. However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up. Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what? Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a recipe for fat gain? If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?
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I finish working out about 430pm. I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work. Problem: I have ZERO appetite postworkout. I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later. Then I'm stufed for the night. However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up. Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what? Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a recipe for fat gain? If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?
Oh yeah it is...recipe for DISASTER!
Watch out Lugar, I can already sense you getting fatter!
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I finish working out about 430pm. I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work. Problem: I have ZERO appetite postworkout. I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later. Then I'm stufed for the night. However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up. Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what? Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a recipe for fat gain? If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?
I have that same problem, usually around midnight though for me. I don't ignore it, I definitely always eat something when I wake up. I try eating something that'll fill me up more, sometimes wheat cereal, or peanut butter. As long as you keep your workouts intense, the calories you intake shouldn't result in fat.
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I finish working out about 430pm. I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work. Problem: I have ZERO appetite postworkout. I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later. Then I'm stufed for the night. However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up. Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what? Does anyone else have this problem? Is this a recipe for fat gain? If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?
1-2 tbls of peanut butter and go back to sleep!
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Lugar why don't you try eating/drinking some fiber before bed? It might help you feel "fuller".
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I finish working out about 430pm. I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work. Problem: I have ZERO appetite postworkout. I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later. Then I'm stufed for the night. However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...
Nothing solid for 7+ hours - Of course you're hungry.
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Lugar lighted up a bowl of herb and the munchies got him. Disscontinue herb to prevent these binges.
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Sure...then I wont eat all night........my bowl restircition is 1-2 MAYBE 5 nights a week max........only at night, never interfering with anything..............
The thick shake at 9pm and a couple of trips for some homemade protein bars, veggies etc at 11pm, 2am satisfies my hunger....thank GOD I'm not going after ho-hos, protein bars (I,.E. OH YEAH BARS, ETC)
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just keep a handful of donuts beside your bed, that will sort the problem out.
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i agree with the other dudes. try to eat a meal that will help you to feel "fuller" the shakes and sald ain't gonna' cut it bro! (they are mere snacks for us big dudes!) YA GOTTA EAT ! ;)
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If your going to continue to use the same approach you initially posted.. why create a new thread and ignore the advice give to you...
And i thought you nixed cardio yet i see you doing cardio (on Sat and Sunday prior to your workout)
SEEK HELP...
WHAT?!?!?! Everyone is saying have a meal that sticks prebed...ok....I've done that......a fiberous meal, with a thick MRP shake, veggies, etc....it holds me over for a few hours.........no one said anything was wrong per se with getting up and eating if I'm hungry.....most do it, and switching to a good mrp 2-3x a night works........is there anything you find wrong with eating during the night?
Cardio - heart purposes...I did nix cardio....7x a week pre 1 st meal to 2x a week post 1st meal, yet 3 hrs post......you got a problem wit low int. cardio?
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WHAT?!?!?! Everyone is saying have a meal that sticks prebed...ok....I've done that......a fiberous meal, with a thick MRP shake, veggies, etc....it holds me over for a few hours.........no one said anything was wrong per se with getting up and eating if I'm hungry.....most do it, and switching to a good mrp 2-3x a night works........is there anything you find wrong with eating during the night?
Cardio - heart purposes...I did nix cardio....7x a week pre 1 st meal to 2x a week post 1st meal, yet 3 hrs post......you got a problem wit low int. cardio?
If you are having a hard time putting on weight cut back on the veggies, eat more potatos, nuts or meat instead. Veggies will help fill you up which you dont want.
Do low intensity cardio about 120-125 BPM for 30 min. 3-4 times a week, that should be plenty. Do it after your resistance training.
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PREBED!
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WHAT?!?!?! Everyone is saying have a meal that sticks prebed...ok....I've done that......a fiberous meal, with a thick MRP shake, veggies, etc...
A shake and a salad is not a solid meal ::) I don't care what you put in it. Steak & sweet potato, an omelet WITH the yolks .... Fat and fiber stave off hunger, not a liquid protein and water based veggies.
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give cake batter a try,you will get fat but at least you will be happy ;)
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i always like to mix some oatmeal if i wake up in the middle of the night 1 cup oatmeal, 4 ounces milk, two tbls peanut butter, mix it together eat it warm. go back to bed.
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seriously?? oats?? a full cup? I would think THIS would be a recipe for fat storage, no? what are your stats? What is your daily diet like?
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You need to force yourself to eat after you lift my friend. But I will be the first to say many people including former mr olympia ronnie coleman have meals late at night especially if its offseason
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here are my choice postworkout: then a solid meal 2 hours later........
rice cakes
cytogainer
oats
all in 50g of whey, or the cytogainer solo....what would yield the cleanest results? I figure I need about 40/40.......
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here are my choice postworkout: then a solid meal 2 hours later........
Why wait two hours? Why not wait only 45-60 minutes.
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You'd be fine eating the oatmeal. Also, cottage cheese before bed will stick with ya for a while.
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Sure...then I wont eat all night........my bowl restircition is 1-2 MAYBE 5 nights a week max........only at night, never interfering with anything..............
This isn't setting the stage for a psychological addiction to grass or anything. How can you have this much trouble eating? Listen to your body, if it says it's hungry feed it (just watch what foods you eat).
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This isn't setting the stage for a psychological addiction to grass or anything. How can you have this much trouble eating? Listen to your body, if it says it's hungry feed it (just watch what foods you eat).
LOL thats good Rim, have to admit when I first read that sentence I knew for sure Lugar had a grass problem, he pretty much spelled it out there. Anytime you try quit and cant your addicted, when you know you should quit but don't, then you have a problem. Self imposed drug use limits like that are results of wrestling with your demons. See I have been there and from Lugars comments here I can see that weed is or has caused problems in his life.
Most people don't realize how addicting weed is, yeah you may leave her for a while, but after a while you will be right back in the arms of Mary Jane.
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never tried to quit...........nothing wrong in moderation!! i wanna see pics of people's physiques who eat oats all night........lol
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hey, I never said it was impossible, but that proof is in the pudding you look great bro.....will you let me see your entire diet? Compete? Again props......true many can't do it, but you def. can!
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10 rice cakes? The new whole grain choc and pb ones?? mmmmmmmmmmm cept that's 120g of carbs......you sure?
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I'm not an idiot bro.......just remember.......
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Here you go..
170lbs 5'5 carbs before bed... mmmmm carbs...
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/Faizsiddiqi/week4.jpg)
and my wheels
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/Faizsiddiqi/legs001.jpg)
that an old pic there bro? How recent? Also, I think you misposted...you aren't 5'5......no one is 5'5....
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that an old pic there bro? How recent? Also, I think you misposted...you aren't 5'5......no one is 5'5....
No one is 5'5?
Can you put yourself on timeout please?
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Not what I meant....I mean very few, that was wrong of me...maybe he is.......but 5'5 is t-i-n-y.......my girl is 5'5......she's 110lbs...even priest is what 5'6?
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Corey?
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Feb. was about the time you started with all the crying about how hurt you were, missing workout, dumping pw cardio, right? Not a flame, just a statement that a few months is all it takes.......legs do look good.......I'd take my upper half though I just want good legs........
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seriously?? oats?? a full cup? I would think THIS would be a recipe for fat storage, no? what are your stats? What is your daily diet like?
yea a full cup it ain't that much. i've got a mega appetite and metabolism so no fat storage. if i'm not extermly hungry i might just have 1/2-3/4 of a cup but for me not starving is a rare occurence. my daily diet eggs in the morning(4 whole+4 whites) a cup of oatmeal and a banana or some kind of fruit. 2nd meal is usually just a sandwhich loaded with meat lunch is steak or a steak burger(health food just don't cut it for me especially off season) 4th meal another sandwhich again loaded with meat or about 1/3 of a jar PB, dinner is usually meat of some sort ribs etc. i don't eat a whole heck of a lot a carbs during the day especially compared to my activety level, working construction or logging five days a week as well as lifting five days a week and cardio usually only twice a week. oh and that midnight meal probably 4 or 5 times a week. for me that maintains weight(bf%)
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yea a full cup it ain't that much. i've got a mega appetite and metabolism so no fat storage. if i'm not extermly hungry i might just have 1/2-3/4 of a cup but for me not starving is a rare occurence. my daily diet eggs in the morning(4 whole+4 whites) a cup of oatmeal and a banana or some kind of fruit. 2nd meal is usually just a sandwhich loaded with meat lunch is steak or a steak burger(health food just don't cut it for me especially off season) 4th meal another sandwhich again loaded with meat or about 1/3 of a jar PB, dinner is usually meat of some sort ribs etc. i don't eat a whole heck of a lot a carbs during the day especially compared to my activety level, working construction or logging five days a week as well as lifting five days a week and cardio usually only twice a week. oh and that midnight meal probably 4 or 5 times a week. for me that maintains weight(bf%)
Yeah dawg if you live in logging country that sounds cold....some BF would do ya good. :D
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You've got mail.
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I just purchased a tub of choc mint cytogainer and a tub of muscle milk light.......cant wait to try....I'll keep you posted. But everyone is right, this is only 1/2 the equation.
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You need FOOD!!!
shakes are crap compared to real FOOD when it comes to gaining muscle!!!
Smoke your shit and eat a nice meal. if you wake up, eat the leftovers!!!
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Hey bro....I eat and I eat till I can't eat anymore then the shakes come into play....also pw, shakes>whole foods.........my opinion. Ill trade you some cuts for some fat?
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yea i agree. When i got started i relied too much on protien shakes and such. Now i still use them but i eat so much more actual food and my strength and muscle tone is going up alot faster than it did before i got my eating some what under control. I feel that if i can get it even more under control i could probably gain a bit better. Need to get the consistency down.
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Eggs, eggs & more eggs! Who cares about shakes.
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you need to force yourself to eat a meal 2-3 hrs after your workout. i have the same problem. After my PWshake, i dont have an apetite, but i know i have to eat.
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you need to force yourself to eat a meal 2-3 hrs after your workout. i have the same problem. After my PWshake, i dont have an apetite, but i know i have to eat.
Why wait 2-3 hours? You could eat 2 meals in that time. Have your shake, wait 30-60 mins and eat again, then wait awhile more and eat again. Especially if he's going to bed soon after.