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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Viking on April 21, 2007, 09:33:23 AM
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He still is ripped but looks small.
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I like Dorian and his products but why in the hell would anyone buy a T-shirt with a quote like that on it. It would be pointless unless you worked for the company.
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is that you in the second pic?
haha easy on the X dude
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Looks like freddy kruger :'(
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Looks like freddy kruger :'(
i hear you, I woudn't turn my back on that guy...he could end the whole expo in 5 seconds!!!!
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He still is ripped but looks small.
He looks big for a natural guy which he is.
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He looks big for a natural guy which he is.
Freddy Kruger??
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Winning th Mr.O several times can leave a lot of stress on a person.
in this pic, Dorian looks like he has survived the electric chair at least 3 times
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143131.0;attach=160232;image)
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"Small" is a relative term.
Of course he will not be as big as when he competed now when he has other things to take care of, his business etc.
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he recently had shoulder surgery too. get over it he aint gonna be 300lbs like he used to be.
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he recently had shoulder surgery too. get over it he aint gonna be 300lbs like he used to be.
The excuses with this guy are endless
Hope this helps
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He still is ripped but looks small.
Give me a fucking break! >:( The guy is a middle-aged 44 year-old who hasn't competed for nine years now and still weights a relatively lean 252 pounds! What the fuck do you want more? How many pros you know who still carry 250+ lean pounds after almost a decade after retiring, and several years after turning 40? The only other I can think of is Coleman. Lee Haney now looks like a menopausal woman, Levrone looks like an Auschwitz survivor and Shawn Ray is fat! Cut Dorian some slack, for fuck sake!
And by the way, what is going on with all of these anti-Dorian threads recently? Is Hulkster in a sort of campaign? :P Mindspin already got bitch-slapped by Ron and put in his place. Stop this shit or I'm going to go bazooka on your asses!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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how can you tell someone is ripped when they have their shirt on??????
stupid kid.
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anyone know what happened between dorian and his wife, debbie (during his olympia reign)?
i know this is probably very old, but debbie was attached to him constantly back then. they semed happy.
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Looks like freddy kruger :'(
Amazing what drugs errrrr nutrition does. ::)
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The excuses with this guy are endless
Hope this helps
bowflex much?
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Dorian represents a lot of what went wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding used to be about male beauty in the body and the face and he didn't really have either...in the bonus section of the Mike Mentzer HIT video, both the Mentzer brothers were calling him ugly, lol.
I have to agree.
What did they say? hah
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Dorian represents a lot of what went wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding used to be about male beauty in the body and the face and he didn't really have either...in the bonus section of the Mike Mentzer HIT video, both the Mentzer brothers were calling him ugly, lol.
Karma caught up with both of them ............. who's ugly now
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Dorian represents a lot of what went wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding used to be about male beauty in the body and the face and he didn't really have either...in the bonus section of the Mike Mentzer HIT video, both the Mentzer brothers were calling him ugly, lol.
hahahahaha, both of the Mentzer brothers looked like they were wearing those fake masks with the glasses, nose and bushy moustache.
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hahahahaha, both of the Mentzer brothers looked like they were wearing those fake masks with the glasses, nose and bushy moustache.
you mean they weren't? ???
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Dorian represents a lot of what went wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding used to be about male beauty in the body and the face and he didn't really have either...in the bonus section of the Mike Mentzer HIT video, both the Mentzer brothers were calling him ugly, lol.
haha can you post this on youtube matt?
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Dorian represents a lot of what went wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding used to be about male beauty in the body and the face and he didn't really have either...in the bonus section of the Mike Mentzer HIT video, both the Mentzer brothers were calling him ugly, lol.
Well, Matt C, I agree partially with you here. Bodybuilding started in ancient Greece as an entertainment done besides sport. It's primary objective was to disply the physical and facial beauty of male youths. The boys would oil up nude and then display their musculature in athletic poses during the Olympics. The boy with the most symmetrical body and face usually wone; muscular development was a secondary consideration - although between boys that were equally symmetrical the most muscular would win.
The Greeks were obsessed with beauty, and beauty is intensely correlated with symmetry - beautiful people are people with symmetrical faces. So this explains why symmetry took precedence. Furthermore, the boys were also judged for their hair texture, skin complexion and other signs of health. Bodybuilding in it's origins was, essentially, a beauty pageant for teenage boys - the ancient Greeks would laugh at a man in his thirties flexing his muscles all oiled up, because adult men were valued for their achievements and not for their prettiness.
The problem, Matt C, is that bodybuilding is no longer a beauty pageant for teenage boys, but rather a freak shown of grown men. In the 1950's, the judges still cared about things like facial symmetry, skin complexion, healthy hair, etc, evidenced by Steve Reeves success, but even then facial symmetry was already considered secondary to physical symmetry and muscularity. In the 1980's, bodybuilding took yet another turn, with even physical symmetry being put aside more and more to muscularity. Lee Labrada and Francis Benfatto couldn't touch Haney despite having far more symmetrical physiques.Both Dorian and Ronnie became Mr.Olympias in an era where all symmetry, even physical, had been almost completely discarded in exchage for muscularity.
Now, you mention Dorian, but I assure you that in the 1950's Ronnie would only be able to win the Mr.Olymnpia in his lighter version around 250 lbs - if the Mr.Olympia contest existed in the 1950's. Ronnie was never the king of symmetry, and his 2003 or 2004 physique would have been regarded as an abomination by the judges: in those days, a man with a gut was not even considered for a physique contest. Period. However, I do agree with you that Dorian wouldn't be able to win the Olympia back in the 1950's in any of his versions. In ancient Greece, both Dorian and Ronnie would never win any physique contest, since they both have ugly, assymetrical faces, are too muscular and neither's physiques would be considered symmetrical b y their standards. In ancient greece, both Dorian and Ronnie would be defeated with straight-firsts scores by this: ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Well, Matt C, I agree partially with you here. Bodybuilding started in ancient Greece as an entertainment done besides sport. It's primary objective was to disply the physical and facial beauty of male youths. The boys would oil up nude and then display their musculature in athletic poses during the Olympics. The boy with the most symmetrical body and face usually wone; muscular development was a secondary consideration - although between boys that were equally symmetrical the most muscular would win.
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It's the True Adonis!!!
Did you ask him for permission before you posted his photos? :-\
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Why do you say he's "still ripped"? He's smaller, but that doesn't mean he's ripped.
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Dorian Has nothing left to prove he looks great In my opinion he is more succesful now congrads Dorian Cant wait to see ya again
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In ancient greece, both Dorian and Ronnie would be defeated with straight-firsts scores by this: ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
If you're talking about ancient Greece try at least to show a greek statue, and not Michelangelo's David, that was sculpted in 1500 or so.
Guess what, greek statues were very different in proportions and aesthetics and you should consider going back to school.
Example for you... real greek statue, Polykleitos' Doryphoros .
(http://www.sikyon.com/sicyon/Polykleitos/doryph.jpg)
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I think he cheated.. In one of my mags it said he had a 1yr old little girl who should be maybe 4 or 5 now, i wonder by whom. I know his son Lewis should be in his 20's at least.
thanks BIG DUB.
there has to be progress, otherwise what's the point?
quite frankly, if it was a male beauty contest my interest in bbing would cease completely.
freaky development is what it's all about to me. arnold, sergio were great because they were freaky for the time (still are).
the simple fact is that no one (except maybe the gay community) is going to be interested in a male beauty pageant.
i don't know what bbing is going to do about the gut, etc but regression is not the answer. athletes MUST jump further, run faster, hit harder, lift more, etc, etc. it's the nature of the beast. 8)
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Winning th Mr.O several times can leave a lot of stress on a person.
in this pic, Dorian looks like he has survived the electric chair at least 3 times
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143131.0;attach=160232;image)
he looks like a typical aging skinhead to me
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He hasnt been able to pick up a weight for four months due to two shoulder surgeries recently.
www.kagedmuscle.com
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If you're talking about ancient Greece try at least to show a greek statue, and not Michelangelo's David, that was sculpted in 1500 or so.
Guess what, greek statues were very different in proportions and aesthetics and you should consider going back to school.
Example for you... real greek statue, Polykleitos' Doryphoros .
You are an idiot. Have you ever heard of the Renaissance? That relates to the renaissance of graeco-roman culture. Michaelangelo's David was sculpted during that period, and it represents an ephebe, or a post-pubescent boy around the age of 17 or 18. It follows the ancient Greek tradition of worshipping the beauty of male youths. I chose Michaelangelo's David because he did a better job at representing an ephebe than any greek sculpture. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You are an idiot. Have you ever heard of the Renaissance? That relates to the renaissance of graeco-roman culture. Michaelangelo's David was sculpted during that period, and it represents an ephebe, or a post-pubescent boy around the age of 17 or 18. It follows the ancient Greek tradition of worshipping the beauty of male youths. I chose Michaelangelo's David because he did a better job at representing an ephebe than any greek sculpture. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
No, as always you are the IDIOT... I lived for 20 years in the places where Renaissance took place and only an IDIOT like yourself can think that the Renaissance is a replication of graeco-roman culture. Inspired by YES, same thing NO, but you are an approximative guy so I understand...
All the proportions in sculpture, painting, and architecture are totally redefined and the David does not represent the canons that ancient Greek had in mind. Sorry dude, but the only an ignorant like yourself can use the David as an example for ancient Greeks proportions.
As a useful learning tool compare the Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man (the perfectly proportioned man in the Renaissance) with the Doryhphor (the perfectly proprtioned man in ancient Greek). The formulae are very different and this proves that you lost one more chance to keep your mouth shut.
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No, as always you are the IDIOT... I lived for 20 years in the places where Renaissance took place and only an IDIOT like yourself can think that the Renaissance is a replication of graeco-roman culture. Inspired by YES, same thing NO, but you are an approximative guy so I understand...
All the proportions in sculpture, painting, and architecture are totally redefined and the David does not represent the canons that ancient Greek had in mind. Sorry dude, but the only an ignorant like yourself can use the David as an example for ancient Greeks proportions.
As a useful learning tool compare the Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man (the perfectly proportioned man in the Renaissance) with the Doryhphor (the perfectly proprtioned man in ancient Greek). The formulae are very different and this proves that you lost one more chance to keep your mouth shut.
Listen, retard, the ancient Greeks build dozens of staues in priaise of adolescent boys, which they called ephebes. It followed from the Greek tradition of "kalos kagathos", or "good and beautiful".
Now, I used David as an example because he represents the Greek ideal of the beautiful boy better than any ancient Greek sculpture could. Did I ever say that Michaelangelo used the exact same proportions and techniques to sculpt his David that the ancient Greeks did? No! My point is that the idea was the same. Get it? Not even Fidias in his many representations of ephebes did a job as good as Michaelangelo.
The point of my post was to emphasize that Michaelenagelo's David represented the same ideal that the ancient Greeks had about what a male body and face should look like; I never meant to discuss the exact proportions and techniques that the Greeks used to make their sculptures. I'm sure that, if the ancient Greeks could build a statue with the same perfection that Michalengelo did, then they would! :)
The Renaissance was not about the renaissaance of Greek techiques of building sculptures: it was the renaissance of the ideals of Greek civilization, such as democracy, self-determination, intellectual freedom and the worship of youth and beauty, especially the beauty of youthful males. Now, after this history lesson, you can go fuck yourself, mmmk? :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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He hasnt been able to pick up a weight for four months due to two shoulder surgeries recently.
www.kagedmuscle.com
How about somebody tell this dude that he's not competing for the Mr.O anymore, what's with the un-neccessary injuries.
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Listen, retard, the ancient Greeks build dozens of staues in priaise of adolescent boys, which they called ephebes. It followed from the Greek tradition of "kalos kagathos", or "good and beautiful".
Now, I used David as an example because he represents the Greek ideal of the beautiful boy better than any ancient Greek sculpture could. Did I ever say that Michaelangelo used the exact same proportions and techniques to sculpt his David that the ancient Greeks did? No! My point is that the idea was the same. Get it? Not even Fidias in his many representations of ephebes did a job as good as Michaelangelo.
The point of my post was to emphasize that Michaelenagelo's David represented the same ideal that the ancient Greeks had about what a male body and face should look like; I never meant to discuss the exact proportions and techniques that the Greeks used to make their sculptures. I'm sure that, if the ancient Greeks could build a statue with the same perfection that Michalengelo did, then they would! :)
The Renaissance was not about the renaissaance of Greek techiques of building sculptures: it was the renaissance of the ideals of Greek civilization, such as democracy, self-determination, intellectual freedom and the worship of youth and beauty, especially the beauty of youthful males. Now, after this history lesson, you can go fuck yourself, mmmk? :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
For sure you can be the most expert at sucking ephebes' cocks but for sure you can't teach me art history!
I'll tell you more, the interpretation of David as an example of Greek beauty ideal is minoritary. The most common interpretation is the one of a biblical figure, the young king David before the fight with the giant Goliah. Guess what, David was not greek and not an "adolescent boy" anymore.
Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time discussing with morons like you, I guess I'm developing a Milos' syndrome.
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Listen, retard, the ancient Greeks build dozens of staues in priaise of adolescent boys, which they called ephebes. It followed from the Greek tradition of "kalos kagathos", or "good and beautiful".
Now, I used David as an example because he represents the Greek ideal of the beautiful boy better than any ancient Greek sculpture could. Did I ever say that Michaelangelo used the exact same proportions and techniques to sculpt his David that the ancient Greeks did? No! My point is that the idea was the same. Get it? Not even Fidias in his many representations of ephebes did a job as good as Michaelangelo.
The point of my post was to emphasize that Michaelenagelo's David represented the same ideal that the ancient Greeks had about what a male body and face should look like; I never meant to discuss the exact proportions and techniques that the Greeks used to make their sculptures. I'm sure that, if the ancient Greeks could build a statue with the same perfection that Michalengelo did, then they would! :)
The Renaissance was not about the renaissaance of Greek techiques of building sculptures: it was the renaissance of the ideals of Greek civilization, such as democracy, self-determination, intellectual freedom and the worship of youth and beauty, especially the beauty of youthful males. Now, after this history lesson, you can go fuck yourself, mmmk? :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
ha ha, nice try to spin it but you've been exposed as full of shit.
david does not represent the ephebes any more than your average teenage athlete today does stupid.
now leave quietly.
thankyou. :D
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How about somebody tell this dude that he's not competing for the Mr.O anymore, what's with the un-neccessary injuries.
at a wild guess, i'd say the surgeries are for injuries incurred while he was competing.
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Anyone who thinks Dorain is "small" these days....hasnt seen the man in person...
I ran into him about 5 months ago at Golds/Venice (Granted this was before his shoulder operations), and the guy is still a brick...his calves have to be seen in person to be belivied! The real question is what is the story with this company in the pictures.... Its not Cnp/Dorain Yates Approved is it? I know that Dorain had a falling out with the owner of that company. The last I saw Dorian was promoting his Temple Gym franchise heavily. I take it this is a new supplement line he started?
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