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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: hangclean on April 23, 2007, 03:38:18 PM
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This is my new favorite supplement. I have been taking it for a week and notice a huge increase in mood, energy and general well being. I havent slept this well in years and my strength is up.
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do you take it before bed?
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It is a great supplement, I've been using it on and off for a few years now.. that and some B-12, you feel like a new person!
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do you take it before bed?
Yes. The bottle says to take it throughout the day or to take it all at once before bed to get a good nights sleep. I originally bought it for sleep since I have been having terrible insomnia and I dont want to resort to prescription drugs. I didnt realize all the other benefits of it. It was expensive but I highly recommend it.
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Yes. The bottle says to take it throughout the day or to take it all at once before bed to get a good nights sleep. I originally bought it for sleep since I have been having terrible insomnia and I dont want to resort to prescription drugs. I didnt realize all the other benefits of it. It was expensive but I highly recommend it.
i wish i could take it but i already use melatonin and i think the other stuff may be too much on top of that, sounds like great stuff though.
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omega 3 is the ticket for me
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i wish i could take it but i already use melatonin and i think the other stuff may be too much on top of that, sounds like great stuff though.
I actually stopped taking melatonin to use this stuff. Melatonin actually gave me worse insomnia for some reason.
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Thanks,i'm gonna try it.
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Just don't take it together with BCAA, because BCAA block tryptophan.
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Just don't take it together with BCAA, because BCAA block tryptophan.
I usually take a couple tabs of BCAA before working out
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This is my new favorite supplement. I have been taking it for a week and notice a huge increase in mood, energy and general well being. I havent slept this well in years and my strength is up.
Is'nt that the stuff in turkey?
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Is'nt that the stuff in turkey?
No you can get it in the states too ;D
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No you can get it in the states too ;D
LOL Whats up man good to see you I need a laugh.
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This stuff was supposed to be great but before I got a chance to try it (years ago), it got banned because of a contaminated batch from Japan or some shit like that. Glad to see it back on the market.
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LOL Whats up man good to see you I need a laugh.
hey whats up buddy ;D
Did you hear about that IFBB guy that got his whole left side amputated?
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hey whats up buddy ;D
Did you hear about that IFBB guy that got his whole left side amputated?
No..punchline...?
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hey whats up buddy ;D
Did you hear about that IFBB guy that got his whole left side amputated?
So you saying Coleman is NOT going to compete anymore??
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Is L-Tryptophan legal?
can i pick it up in a vitamin store?
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No you can get it in the states too ;D
hahaha awesome
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I've megadosed on this stuff and when I came around I had 2000 posts
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No..punchline...?
......Well he's all right now hahaha
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I've megadosed on this stuff and when I came around I had 2000 posts
I highly doubt it as tryptophan makes you sleepy.
Rather take Tyrosine as a stimulant.
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Just don't take it together with BCAA, because BCAA block tryptophan.
You'll have to explain that one ::). Tryptophan is the amino acid in turkey that makes everyone sleepy after christmas dinner.
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This is my new favorite supplement. I have been taking it for a week and notice a huge increase in mood, energy and general well being. I havent slept this well in years and my strength is up.
L-Tryptophan isn't available anymore by itself as a supplement (some early 90's left wing health ban shit, produced from bacteria and couple of batches were dirty)
You might be talking about 5-HTP, which is a derivative. Very good to increase your mood indeed. Raise Serotinine levels very fast. Also good for insomnia if taken before bedtime.
My favorite combo is 50mg 5-HTP + 6mg of Melatonin, 30mins before going to bed. Knocked the fuck out!
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You'll have to explain that one ::). Tryptophan is the amino acid in turkey that makes everyone sleepy after christmas dinner.
BCAA blocks Tryptophan at the blood-brain-barrier, because the body takes BCAA to be more important. When you take the two together, tryptophan will lose to BCAA.
(Sorry i was sick the last few days and don't feel able to explain the shit in english yet. If you take the explanation in german or japanese i will do my best. Ask me again next week for an english version. I feel like Tarzan in the moment.) ;D
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got a bottle,gonna try it.
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BCAA blocks Tryptophan at the blood-brain-barrier, because the body takes BCAA to be more important. When you take the two together, tryptophan will lose to BCAA.
(Sorry i was sick the last few days and don't feel able to explain the shit in english yet. If you take the explanation in german or japanese i will do my best. Ask me again next week for an english version. I feel like Tarzan in the moment.) ;D
Very good DK. You must do a bit of reading. I had forgotten about that. I read something about it's potential use in hepatic encephalopathy(yawn). Props for getting one over on the Doc. (I hope you are feeling better) But for anyone interested, although DK is correct about blood-brain-barrier, when tested on athletes bcaa/tryptophan supps didn't effect performance. (High levels of tryptophan in the circulation have neen associated with fatigue in sport.
regards,
the Doc :)
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L-Tryptophan isn't available anymore by itself as a supplement (some early 90's left wing health ban shit, produced from bacteria and couple of batches were dirty)
You might be talking about 5-HTP, which is a derivative. Very good to increase your mood indeed. Raise Serotinine levels very fast. Also good for insomnia if taken before bedtime.
My favorite combo is 50mg 5-HTP + 6mg of Melatonin, 30mins before going to bed. Knocked the fuck out!
Dude, you can get it anywhere. They put it back on the market. 5-htp did absolutely nothing for me when I tried it. The real stuff feels like Prozac!
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You'll have to explain that one ::). Tryptophan is the amino acid in turkey that makes everyone sleepy after christmas dinner.
Recent studies have shown that the amount of tryptophan in a serving of turkey is minimal, at least not enough to provide a sedative effect. They say the reason people feel tired after turkey, is not the turkey itself, but the fact that their blood sugar has lowered due to the large meal, thus they feel tired. I get tired after eating any kind of big meal, whether it be turkey, Chinese food, or whatever.
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My remedy for sleep is:
1500mg Valerian Root, 9mg of Melatonin & a cup of Sleepytime Tea. If this doesn't work......uh, ok I am not going to go there. ;) Figure it out for yourself.
Jade
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It's availabe here:
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=14767
Independent Lab assay here:
http://www.supplementdirect.com/record_client_files/pdf/sdltryptophan32107(040507124041).pdf
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I need to find somewhere to get me some. I always wake up a few times during the night, would be nice to just be knocked out all night without sleeping pills which I have used before.
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I need to find somewhere to get me some. I always wake up a few times during the night, would be nice to just be knocked out all night without sleeping pills which I have used before.
Try melatonin... 6mg will do the trick.
Available at Walmart :)
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Try melatonin... 6mg will do the trick.
Available at Walmart :)
i heard ZMA does the trick also...
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i heard ZMA does the trick also...
I have that but havn't taken it in a while since I have been eating before bed and you have to take it on an empty stomach.
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You guys do realize that with all of these "natural remedies" you're gonna have to take a much higher dose to get the benefit of the doubt to build muscle since they're not steroids?
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Is'nt that the stuff in turkey?
I've read that the sleep benefits of tryptophan from eating turkey (the foul not the country) are not verifiable and that it should be taken as a supplement for such purposes.
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My remedy for sleep is:
1500mg Valerian Root, 9mg of Melatonin & a cup of Sleepytime Tea. If this doesn't work......uh, ok I am not going to go there. ;) Figure it out for yourself.
Jade
If I guess right do I get a prize? ;) ;D 8)
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You guys do realize that with all of these "natural remedies" you're gonna have to take a much higher dose to get the benefit of the doubt to build muscle since they're not steroids?
Dude, where in this thread does it say that it's for building muscle?? It helps you get a good night sleep. If you dont have a sleeping problem fine, but I'm sure a lot of people on here do which is why I posted this.
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My remedy for sleep is:
1500mg Valerian Root, 9mg of Melatonin & a cup of Sleepytime Tea. If this doesn't work......uh, ok I am not going to go there. ;) Figure it out for yourself.
Jade
holy shit 9mg. of melatonin :o i take 2mg. and i'm out.
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Just don't take it together with BCAA, because BCAA block tryptophan.
correct....all 4 aminos are in the same "large neutral" amino class. They require the same transport system across the blood brain barrier and therefore compete. You may get some tryptophan across....but much less than if you distanced it away from the BCAA by 3 hours or so.
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If I guess right do I get a prize? ;) ;D 8)
Hey, you won! Call me to collect your prize, k? ;)
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i'm not a big supplement person but i have had trouble sleeping so i ordered some of this stuff. after using it for 1 week i have been sleeping much better and deeper. i wake up feeling alot more energy as well. just wanted to add my .02
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How much Tryptophan have you been taking before bed? Where did you get it? Give me a link. Thanks!
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How much Tryptophan have you been taking before bed? Where did you get it? Give me a link. Thanks!
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=14767
i take two scoops with a small "shot" of apple juice before i get ready for bed.
i will say one thing, this stuff gives you very vivid and crazy dreams!
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http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=14767
i take two scoops with a small "shot" of apple juice before i get ready for bed.
i will say one thing, this stuff gives you very vivid and crazy dreams!
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It sure does!!
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I just bought some yesterday and I took two capsules (1,000mg) right before bed and I slept like a baby! Feel great today too! What's the deal with taking it with fruit juice or avoiding protein with it?
I didn't take it with any juice, and had it about 2 hours after dinner (white chicken chili with tons of protein)... Still worked great!
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I just bought some yesterday and I took two capsules (1,000mg) right before bed and I slept like a baby! Feel great today too! What's the deal with taking it with fruit juice or avoiding protein with it?
I didn't take it with any juice, and had it about 2 hours after dinner (white chicken chili with tons of protein)... Still worked great!
Certain Amino's and proteins block the absorption or something like that. it has all the info on the website i posted. taking it with fruit juice helps get it into the body faster and for effective.
i wouldn't worry about it too much.
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