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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MisterMagoo on April 23, 2007, 08:41:10 PM
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a little bit ago a buddy of mine decided to enter a bodybuilding contest. in good shape normally and a casual gymgoer, his girlfriend is an aerobics instructor and he decided he'd do a show with her.
he had 8 weeks to get ready for the show and did an extremely strict bodybuilder type diet. ate extremely cleanly, high protein, all whole food sources like tuna and chicken. no wine, no fish, no sugary foods.
realize that not only did he get far leaner far faster than any adonis principle devotee, but at the end he's about the same size as the man himself despite starting out smaller.
myself it's been three weeks and i'm down around 20 pounds. no pictures for the time being, that'll wait until the end. ;D
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When he goes to the gym, maybe he should also work out his legs..?
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how many calories did he eat, and his weight?
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dude looks like any other skinny bitch who hangs out by a swimming pool all summer. not impressed!
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dude looks like any other skinny bitch who hangs out by a swimming pool all summer. not impressed!
that's the point. he's a casual lifter who decided to lean down in 2 months for a show, and he got just as lean as adonis and looks about the same size (and at 5'11" and 175 pounds, IS the same size). moreover, using entirely non-adonis methods, he got far leaner in two months than any of adonis's "case studies".
that's all i was illustrating here. don't rip on him though, he didn't start the thread, i just used the photos to prove a point concerning BS "nutritionists" and their idiotic advice.
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ok i stand corrected then. ;D
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This "friend" isnt even in Adonis' league. "Monster" thread, buckaroo ::)
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a little bit ago a buddy of mine decided to enter a bodybuilding contest. in good shape normally and a casual gymgoer, his girlfriend is an aerobics instructor and he decided he'd do a show with her.
he had 8 weeks to get ready for the show and did an extremely strict bodybuilder type diet. ate extremely cleanly, high protein, all whole food sources like tuna and chicken. no wine, no fish, no sugary foods.
realize that not only did he get far leaner far faster than any adonis principle devotee, but at the end he's about the same size as the man himself despite starting out smaller.
myself it's been three weeks and i'm down around 20 pounds. no pictures for the time being, that'll wait until the end. ;D
Without commenting on the Adonis Principles themselves, the guy you posted has significantly less lbm than Adonis.
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Zach, post his "onstage" pics. I was really impressed.
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It's 100% of the bodybuilding industry both in the present and in the past, and all scientific literature which is wrong.
Your condescension would sound slightly less ignorant if you had heard of Mike Mentzer.
Keeping eating your 1g/lb lean mass a day and making supplement companies(aka the "scientific literature" purveyors of the bodybuilding industry) rich ::)
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What kind a casual gymgoer says "what the fuck, I occasionally workout so I'll diet down now for a bodybuilding contest."?
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Nice Afro!
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a little bit ago a buddy of mine decided to enter a bodybuilding contest. in good shape normally and a casual gymgoer, his girlfriend is an aerobics instructor and he decided he'd do a show with her.
he had 8 weeks to get ready for the show and did an extremely strict bodybuilder type diet. ate extremely cleanly, high protein, all whole food sources like tuna and chicken. no wine, no fish, no sugary foods.
realize that not only did he get far leaner far faster than any adonis principle devotee, but at the end he's about the same size as the man himself despite starting out smaller.
myself it's been three weeks and i'm down around 20 pounds. no pictures for the time being, that'll wait until the end. ;D
Incredible transformation.
-Hedge
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Great work Magoo you're looking lean, nice tan too.
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Great transformation 8)
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all whole food sources like tuna and chicken. no wine, no fish, no sugary foods.
Zach, what do you think Tuna is? :P ;D
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Zach, what do you think Tuna is? :P ;D
haha, touche! ;D
i was thinking about the buttered and breadcrumbed fish dinners adonis showed pictures of when i wrote that, and since i was kinda on auto-pilot i didn't proofread. :P
Zach, post his "onstage" pics. I was really impressed.
sure thing. i know his legs aren't great, but realize he ain't a bodybuilder. he's just an athletic guy who felt like doing a show with his girlfriend.
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I have no intention of argueing with this TA character that you guys are talking about but if you guys eveer want to go look up Ellington Darden's nutritional recommendations or even Arthur Jones for that matter, seems to me this TA guy kinda took thier ideas. I remember this TA character posted a few things that I seem to recall being almost direct quotes from Darden about protien consumption and how protien powders are a scam by the magazines and all this other malarkey. Of course when I pointed this out he mysteriously "never heard of ellington darden" it was very convieneint.
I seem to remember this TA guy being a real ego maniac or something like that...
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great transformation.
you will always get the best and fastest results if you diet the bodybuilding way (high protein, low carb, clean foods).
however, i don't think adonis is totally wrong with his theories. there is some truth in them, e.g. protein powder usage being unnecessary for natural guys.
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that's the point. he's a casual lifter who decided to lean down in 2 months for a show, and he got just as lean as adonis and looks about the same size (and at 5'11" and 175 pounds, IS the same size). moreover, using entirely non-adonis methods, he got far leaner in two months than any of adonis's "case studies".
that's all i was illustrating here. don't rip on him though, he didn't start the thread, i just used the photos to prove a point concerning BS "nutritionists" and their idiotic advice.
he looks good, better than adonis in fact.
too bad a few bought into his nonsense and wasted time as he never ate "all mcdonalds"
it was noted on the board Dave Palumbo was advising him on diet anyway
plus adonis said he is 4% but then again according to adonis bfat measurements are inaccurate on everyone but him
excuse me while i drink some "expensive" wine :P
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Worth noting - Adonis beat over 80% of the Mr GetBig entrants eating junk., including a seasoned NPC guy.
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Worth noting - Adonis beat over 80% of the Mr GetBig entrants eating junk., including a seasoned NPC guy.
no he did not eat like that you guys fell for that hook line and sinker
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Worth noting - Adonis beat over 80% of the Mr GetBig entrants eating junk., including a seasoned NPC guy.
::) come on rob
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kid did a great job for two months work. looks like he lost fat and put on muscle.
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Doesn't look 175lbs. In the before he looks 20lbs heavier. So he'd have been 205lbs, doesn't look it. But I'm just guessing.
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looks good.... but why did he steal some Ethiopians legs?
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Doesn't look 175lbs. In the before he looks 20lbs heavier. So he'd have been 205lbs, doesn't look it. But I'm just guessing.
175 + 20 = 195, slick.
and it really doesn't make a difference what you say he looks like, he was 175 on stage and a bit under 200 when he started. not every person who weighs 175 is going to have the same visual appearance, deal with it. i can understand how you'd get confused though, since you're on the tiny side. 5'11" at 175 is going to look small.
Worth noting - Adonis beat over 80% of the Mr GetBig entrants eating junk., including a seasoned NPC guy.
worth noting: no he didn't. if you paid attention to every bit of dietary advice he gave out until he went nuts and lost the mr getbig, he always advocated high protein, low carb, moderate fat. back on mayhem when he went from fat to lean he used to post "bodybuilder recipes" for how to make a pizza or something that was whole grain, low GI, and high protein. did it all the time.
it wasn't until he lost the mr getbig and was desperate to validate himself that these phony baloney* principles came about. as late as september of 2006 he was telling garraeth to go low carb and high protein to shed the pounds. besides, he "won" based on two things: his conditioning that had nothing to do with eating junk, and his heavily enhanced photographs. he had no business even in the top 5, off the top of my head DW and bast would have beat him if they'd played his "put as much shadow on me as possible and pose covered in oil" game.
simple as that.
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175 + 20 = 195, slick.
and it really doesn't make a difference what you say he looks like, he was 175 on stage and a bit under 200 when he started. not every person who weighs 175 is going to have the same visual appearance, deal with it. i can understand how you'd get confused though, since you're on the tiny side. 5'11" at 175 is going to look small.
worth noting: no he didn't. if you paid attention to every bit of dietary advice he gave out until he went nuts and lost the mr getbig, he always advocated high protein, low carb, moderate fat. back on mayhem when he went from fat to lean he used to post "bodybuilder recipes" for how to make a pizza or something that was whole grain, low GI, and high protein. did it all the time.
it wasn't until he lost the mr getbig and was desperate to validate himself that these phony baloney* principles came about. as late as september of 2006 he was telling garraeth to go low carb and high protein to shed the pounds. besides, he "won" based on two things: his conditioning that had nothing to do with eating junk, and his heavily enhanced photographs. he had no business even in the top 5, off the top of my head DW and bast would have beat him if they'd played his "put as much shadow on me as possible and pose covered in oil" game.
simple as that.
how much more weight do you have to lose after losing 20lbs?
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how much more weight do you have to lose after losing 20lbs?
me personally? at least another 20. i'm around 249 now and could hit 225 without any issue. losing a lot around the middle, i've dropped two notches on my belt. strength doesn't seem to be going anywhere but it's hard to tell because i've had ZERO energy these past few days. a friend of mine in med school says i should quit doing the intense cardio and strip back to low intensity for longer periods, so i'll give that a go.
him? you said he couldn't be 175 because he looks 20 pounds heavier in the before pictures, which would mean he was 205 and doesn't look it. 20 pounds heavier would be 195.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143766.0;attach=160851;image)
Crazy paranoia. I love when people black out their face. As if, the entire getbig community will stalk you...hahah
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me personally? at least another 20. i'm around 249 now and could hit 225 without any issue. losing a lot around the middle, i've dropped two notches on my belt. strength doesn't seem to be going anywhere but it's hard to tell because i've had ZERO energy these past few days. a friend of mine in med school says i should quit doing the intense cardio and strip back to low intensity for longer periods, so i'll give that a go.
him? you said he couldn't be 175 because he looks 20 pounds heavier in the before pictures, which would mean he was 205 and doesn't look it. 20 pounds heavier would be 195.
yea i wrote the wrong number. Adonis began eating a clean diet last year then switched over half way through his diet or so. I did as well.
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what's the point of posting a morphed picture?
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kid did a great job for two months work. looks like he lost fat and put on muscle.
He didn't have that much weight to lose to begin with. The biggest difference between the two pics is a tan and a shave.
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Crazy paranoia. I love when people black out their face. As if, the entire getbig community will stalk you...hahah
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he didn't black out his face, i did it for him out of this crazy thing called "respect". i have a feeling he'd prefer that i leave him with some anonymity in this issue.
yea i wrote the wrong number. Adonis began eating a clean diet last year then switched over half way through his diet or so. I did as well.
no he didn't. he started his clean diet at least three years ago. most of his "lean" pictures taken before the mr getbig were posted on mayhem considerably before he got banned. now he's reposting some of them and then showing more recent ones and acting like his loss of a few % in bodyfat over the course of a year and a half or so is some great accomplishment.
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adonis also
worked for NASA, invented gravity,, and is rich and owns 3 houses he paid cash for, has a degree in physics,
oh well nevermind :-X he does drink expensive wine though and cook gourmet McDonalds meals ;)
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me personally? at least another 20. i'm around 249 now and could hit 225 without any issue. losing a lot around the middle, i've dropped two notches on my belt. strength doesn't seem to be going anywhere but it's hard to tell because i've had ZERO energy these past few days. a friend of mine in med school says i should quit doing the intense cardio and strip back to low intensity for longer periods, so i'll give that a go.
him? you said he couldn't be 175 because he looks 20 pounds heavier in the before pictures, which would mean he was 205 and doesn't look it. 20 pounds heavier would be 195.
Just play around with the cardio. No need to do hour long sessions either, just go for a 30-40 minute brisk walk in the morning, it will help with the recovery. The benefit of doing some high intensity cardio once in awhile, is that your general fitness is better.
Good to see you keeping at it BTW.
But don't go too low. Adjust your caloric intake while your lifting is still going alright.
I've seen fat lifters (not just a bit husky like yourself) strip away all the fat, and while doing it, opt for light weights and bodybuilding excersises. They never came back to powerlifting.
Stay strong.
-Hedge
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He didn't have that much weight to lose to begin with. The biggest difference between the two pics is a tan and a shave.
well i think he put on mass on his legs and lats.
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haha every time bast has a good point you post that pic.... its a fucking meltdown
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Stay strong.
-Hedge
haha ok Shawn Ray
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Just play around with the cardio. No need to do hour long sessions either, just go for a 30-40 minute brisk walk in the morning, it will help with the recovery. The benefit of doing some high intensity cardio once in awhile, is that your general fitness is better.
Good to see you keeping at it BTW.
But don't go too low. Adjust your caloric intake while your lifting is still going alright.
I've seen fat lifters (not just a bit husky like yourself) strip away all the fat, and while doing it, opt for light weights and bodybuilding excersises. They never came back to powerlifting.
Stay strong.
-Hedge
honestly i could never go back to regular bodybuilding. i always loved lifting and it was hard enough to do sets of 6, let alone 10. oh sure i could do them, but then i'd want to put more weight on. even these days it's a conscious effort for me not to hit heavy singles every workout. sticking with triples or sets of 5 is damn hard work.
45 minutes of moderate intensity cardio three times a week seems enough for me. every morning would be burning almost 5000 calories per week total, which would be just insanity aside from me hating it. i'm in a caloric deficit just from my diet and the Scorch, above that and it'd be crazy.
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how did i get involved in this?
I never did anything TA suggested...sometimes I said I did -- off the cuff, however.
Hope you realized that.
...this is kinda cool: http://www.mercuronutrition.com/sportsnutrition.asp
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lookin huge man. biceps seem a little shady, though. :D
i know you didn't do anything he suggested, but roundabout that time the guy was telling you a protocol that is exactly what he said was wrong with bodybuilding diets later. my point was just that he changed everything he claimed sometime late last year because he's a pathetic attention whoring sack of shit (who has lately started trolling my youtube account to post dumb comments because, yes, he's that sad) who tried to gain validation by fashioning himself as a nutritionist guru espousing theories that aside from being entirely wrong were nothing resembling what he himself used to lose all that weight.
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looking much leaner garreath, but the synthol looks ridiculous.
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looking much leaner garreath, but the synthol looks ridiculous.
garreath = owns you, Synthol or not.
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yeah, once a troll, always a troll...he'll be back tho -- mark my words.
i think he might be getting ready for finals, though i don't believe that he's got particularly difficult ones... ;D
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he didn't black out his face, i did it for him out of this crazy thing called "respect". i have a feeling he'd prefer that i leave him with some anonymity in this issue.
True. It's not like he's in a gay porn for christ sakes...haha I understand though. Peace
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True. It's not like he's in a gay porn for christ sakes...haha I understand though. Peace
i understand your point, though. i mean it's not like anyone's gonna know who he is and i didn't give his name or anything. but i still figure if i'm showing faces without consent i should blur it, like on shows like jackass. 8)