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on MSNBC right now. She said the White House just plain made up the story and released it.
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on MSNBC right now. She said the White House just plain made up the story and released it.
*burp* Big whoopie.
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damn, after tillman died, they
-burned his clothes and body armor
-disappeared a predator tape that filmed the whole thing
-stationed guards to keep all his team from talking
-killed all internet and phone from that base so no one could tell the story
then they giftwrapped the story about the brave guy shooting it out til the end against bad guys.
Again, this goes back to credibility and honesty. Stop fvcking lying to us, White house, and just be honest.
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then they giftwrapped the story about the brave guy shooting it out til the end against bad guys.
How many guys signed up after that story? The perfect soldier...but killed by friendly fire
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Yeah it was botched from start to finish..they usually shut down phone lines when guys get killed and anything the Rangers do can be classified so what they did initially wasn't to far from normal.......after that they should have conducted the investigation and just put out what happened.
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Yeah it was botched from start to finish..they usually shut down phone lines when guys get killed and anything the Rangers do can be classified so what they did initially wasn't to far from normal.......after that they should have conducted the investigation and just put out what happened.
HH6, what's your opinion on the media and govt telling the world lies, to bump recruitment numbers?
Also, where do you think they *draw the line*? What's the biggest thing they would lie about?
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HH6, what's your opinion on the media and govt telling the world lies, to bump recruitment numbers?
Also, where do you think they *draw the line*? What's the biggest thing they would lie about?
wow, a guy getting killed draws new recruits? amazing how far you fellas reach...
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wow, a guy getting killed draws new recruits? amazing how far you fellas reach...
Dude, Tillman boosted recruitment and was the poster boy for "American Hero" for a year.
Yes, he absolutely drew new recruits.
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on MSNBC right now. She said the White House just plain made up the story and released it.
She was trying to say that when she was released from the hospital after her rescue.
It was easily on moment propaganda from the government to boost support for the war.
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Dude, Tillman boosted recruitment and was the poster boy for "American Hero" for a year.
Yes, he absolutely drew new recruits.
Well we should eliminate this from happening again. I'm hoping they start the draft back.
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Well we should eliminate this from happening again. I'm hoping they start the draft back.
Do you realize that your quality of life here will drop significantly when many productive people here suddenly leave?
Do you want to wait 3 months to see a doc because half of them are serving in Tehran? Do you want to pay $8 for a gallon of milk because they can't find folks to milk cows or drive trucks?
You're being way too simple, ignoring the disruptive effects of a draft on you old fvcks that get to stay here.
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on you old fvcks that get to stay here.
;D HAHA
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Do you realize that your quality of life here will drop significantly when many productive people here suddenly leave?
Do you want to wait 3 months to see a doc because half of them are serving in Tehran? Do you want to pay $8 for a gallon of milk because they can't find folks to milk cows or drive trucks?
You're being way too simple, ignoring the disruptive effects of a draft on you old fvcks that get to stay here.
ah just draft 18-20 year olds, from what i've seen of the 18-20 age group on this site, they aren't very productive at anything other than bitching. Ah, the rooster feels a bit edgy today. Wheres jag??!!
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ah just draft 18-20 year olds, from what i've seen of the 18-20 age group on this site, they aren't very productive at anything other than bitching. Ah, the rooster feels a bit edgy today. Wheres jag??!!
well, they can draft til 44, so most of us will be up. I'll run computer networks in the green zone, as my eyes will probably prevent me from pointing a 50 caliber anywhere.
Can I get a free workout at your gym before I'm shipped to the sandbox?
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well, they can draft til 44, so most of us will be up. I'll run computer networks in the green zone, as my eyes will probably prevent me from pointing a 50 caliber anywhere.
Can I get a free workout at your gym before I'm shipped to the sandbox?
Of course, currently all military folks train free at my gym, good until the war is over.
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Of course, currently all military folks train free at my gym, good until the war is over.
good. cause i'm betting on getting drafted in 2009 and in addition to the free health care I plan on getting, i wanna cash in on all the soldier benefits. isn't there a titty bar where lapdances are half off? Someone hook me up.
Also, this series of wars will not be over for decades.
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good. cause i'm betting on getting drafted in 2009 and in addition to the free health care I plan on getting, i wanna cash in on all the soldier benefits. isn't there a titty bar where lapdances are half off? Someone hook me up.
Also, this series of wars will not be over for decades.
omg aren't you like over 30? If they draft you, then they sure as hell will draft me... Although I don't think a draft will go down because people will oppose it.
ah just draft 18-20 year olds, from what i've seen of the 18-20 age group on this site, they aren't very productive at anything other than bitching. Ah, the rooster feels a bit edgy today. Wheres jag??!!
Fuck no! >:(
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people will oppose a draft so it won't happen? ROTFLMAO!!!
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people will oppose a draft so it won't happen? ROTFLMAO!!!
What if 85% of americans oppose a draft? You're telling me that they'll still shove one down our throats? If there is a draft then it'll be the last straw in all of this nonsense.. People will revolt and tell the government to go fuck themselves.
God forbid that I get sent over there.. I'm gonna take out my frustrations on Iraqi civilians.
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They have to justify a draft........it's something that will have to be "sold" to the American people like the WMD thing was.
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They have to justify a draft........it's something that will have to be "sold" to the American people like the WMD thing was.
I don't think so.
Are you saying there will be one though? Is it something that's being thrown out there or is this like serious?
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They have to justify a draft........it's something that will have to be "sold" to the American people like the WMD thing was.
ah you dupes fell for that WMD thing, you will fall for anything. we will justify it.....somehow.
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240...We should allow the media..through embeds to have access to almost all that we do...overwhelmingly do u get the whole picture when u have embedded media as opposed to drive bys that get half the story from either the victims...'whitnesses' or by the unfortunate military spokesman, who by the very definition and regulations governeing his job, wants to tell the whole truth and facilitate the media getting an accurate picture. Generally he gets stomped on by some guy who fears the media. Petreus is very media savy and will use the media as a weapons to get the correct messages out.
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ah you dupes fell for that WMD thing, you will fall for anything. we will justify it.....somehow.
You haven't justified attacking Iran yet.. What makes you think that you'll suceed with a draft that'll effect the lives of millions of young americans?
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They will make it happens and if it passes they won't have to justify shit...draft = quick end to this war.
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You haven't justified attacking Iran yet.. What makes you think that you'll suceed with a draft that'll effect the lives of millions of young americans?
we will hit iran when the time comes, thats a given.
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I disagree about Iran and there won't be a draft...
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I disagree about Iran and there won't be a draft...
if they continue plutonium enrichment......BOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOM
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I'm thinking we should never have saved Jessica, unappreciative wench.
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I'm thinking we should never have saved Jessica, unappreciative wench.
yes. her honesty is such a terrible thing.
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yes. her honesty is such a terrible thing.
WOmen, like gays, don't belong in the military either........
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The Jessica Lynch fiasco was faily important in defining what kind of war we would fight and what the enemy was like.
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I don't think so.
Are you saying there will be one though? Is it something that's being thrown out there or is this like serious?
I really don't think a draft will happen. I was just outlining what would need to happen for a draft to occur and i forgot to add: Major terrorist attack ;D
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What if 85% of americans oppose a draft? You're telling me that they'll still shove one down our throats? If there is a draft then it'll be the last straw in all of this nonsense.. People will revolt and tell the government to go fuck themselves.
God forbid that I get sent over there.. I'm gonna take out my frustrations on Iraqi civilians.
The stampede for the Canadian border has already long since started.
(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/Canada-looks.jpg)
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Dude, Tillman boosted recruitment and was the poster boy for "American Hero" for a year.
Yes, he absolutely drew new recruits.
Tillman looked like Duke from "G.I. Joe". I can imagine how knuckled headed kids wanted to be just like him.
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The stampede for the Canadian border has already long since started.
(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/Canada-looks.jpg)
Wow... how cool would things be if all the wimpy tree hugging, one toilet paper sheet liberals left? ;D
Sweeeeet.
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I disagree about Iran and there won't be a draft...
I feel better now. :)
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well, they can draft til 44, so most of us will be up. I'll run computer networks in the green zone, as my eyes will probably prevent me from pointing a 50 caliber anywhere.
Can I get a free workout at your gym before I'm shipped to the sandbox?
I am assuming you are saying 44 because the Army will take people of that age currently? If they do start the draft I would guess they would drop the age. They wouldn't need to fill boots with people over 32 or so.
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I am assuming you are saying 44 because the Army will take people of that age currently? If they do start the draft I would guess they would drop the age. They wouldn't need to fill boots with people over 32 or so.
No. WIKI it. They changes the law. It's 42 limit for the draft, and 44 if you have a skill. Scary! I'm 30, thought I was in the clear. I am hoping they would drop the age, but who knows. They've done a lot of things nobody saw coming. And they have empty prisons set up for the people who refuse to go. Go to lockup or go to Iran. Not very fun choices. I really hope it's a last resort they never go to. I accept the economy hit the war gives us, and understand it. But being told that I have to go dodge bullets so that there will be oil for my grandkids when I'm long dead, not so cool.
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No. WIKI it. They changes the law. It's 42 limit for the draft, and 44 if you have a skill. Scary! I'm 30, thought I was in the clear. I am hoping they would drop the age, but who knows. They've done a lot of things nobody saw coming. And they have empty prisons set up for the people who refuse to go. Go to lockup or go to Iran. Not very fun choices. I really hope it's a last resort they never go to. I accept the economy hit the war gives us, and understand it. But being told that I have to go dodge bullets so that there will be oil for my grandkids when I'm long dead, not so cool.
I know that they changed the laws to help avoid the draft, I think if they institute a draft then they will lower the age again.
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I know that they changed the laws to help avoid the draft, I think if they institute a draft then they will lower the age again.
cool. what laws did they change? thanks.
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The stampede for the Canadian border has already long since started.
(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/Canada-looks.jpg)
I hope the traitors enjoy hockey and a weak country.
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cool. what laws did they change? thanks.
sorry miscommunication...they changed the law that had the cutoff age at 36 to allow older folks to join thereby helping to avoid the need for a draft. If they decide to have a draft I believe they will place the cutoff back at 35ish.
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Bring back the draft, and suddenly 90% of our draft-age population will be 'gay'.
Better fix that little statute there, eh?
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Bring back the draft, and suddenly 90% of our draft-age population will be 'gay'.
Better fix that little statute there, eh?
Yep. the new ethical question will be "would you rather suck a d*** or be blown up by an IED"?
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hasn't jessica had her 15 minutes of fame? time for her to leave the military, get preggo and cook barefoot in the kitchen.
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We have the draft here, and is a non issue. Our "military" does really dangerous things like clean up after hurricanes, so people don't really mind it.
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hasn't jessica had her 15 minutes of fame? time for her to leave the military, get preggo and cook barefoot in the kitchen.
Didn't the government prop her up as a would-be 'war hero'?
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Didn't the government prop her up as a would-be 'war hero'?
yes and we are done with her now.
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Didn't the government prop her up as a would-be 'war hero'?
yes. big story about how she emptied both clips then her sidearm, i believe.
Truth?
She was knocked unconscious at the first blast, was raped and beaten briefly by her captors, then dropped at the hospital where her doctor was fired at trying to return her. Later, they did a 'daring' rescue on an empty hospital to pull her out.
It was war propaganda. but that's the problem - we don't know what else has been propaganda. This week, we know that WMD intel was fudged, Tillman death fudged, Lynch story fudged.... at what point do we look at OTHER things the white house tells us with a suspicious eye? We know they lied about some things, yet we blindly swallow everything else. Strange.
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yes. big story about how she emptied both clips then her sidearm, i believe.
Truth?
She was knocked unconscious at the first blast, was raped and beaten briefly by her captors, then dropped at the hospital where her doctor was fired at trying to return her. Later, they did a 'daring' rescue on an empty hospital to pull her out.
It was war propaganda. but that's the problem - we don't know what else has been propaganda. This week, we know that WMD intel was fudged, Tillman death fudged, Lynch story fudged.... at what point do we look at OTHER things the white house tells us with a suspicious eye? We know they lied about some things, yet we blindly swallow everything else. Strange.
Christianity teaches that Satan will tell 20 truths in order to get 1 lie past you.
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I'm thinking we should never have saved Jessica, unappreciative wench.
You are one messed up old man.