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Everyone....this is a subject that has been discussed tooooo much without comming to a real answer...
1. how many fish oil pills shoul one take in a day (i am ofcourse talking about the 1000mg pills ?
2. when to take them?
please everyone give your best answer... and stay on subject..... :) thanks
ps. my own answer is 2 pills anytime during the day, just before woorkout
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Everyone....this is a subject that has been discussed tooooo much without comming to a real answer...
1. how many fish oil pills shoul one take in a day (i am ofcourse talking about the 1000mg pills ?
2. when to take them?
please everyone give your best answer... and stay on subject..... :) thanks
ps. my own answer is 2 pills anytime during the day, just before woorkout
There is no correct answers. Everybody has different needs at different times of the day. I wouldn't take pills anyway but hey, too each his own!
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Everyone....this is a subject that has been discussed tooooo much without comming to a real answer...
1. how many fish oil pills shoul one take in a day (i am ofcourse talking about the 1000mg pills ? Depends. Avg. 3-6
2. when to take them? Whenever - doesn't matter
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thanks... i thought it would be like more than 2, its just that some people say you can have too many of them and then get some kind of poisening.......but that just didn't make sence to me because i cant really see how you can eat too much fish :)
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Some of the literature suggests that dosages up to 10g may be beneficial for certain applications. I'm 6-9g per day, 3 g per dose, at least 4 hours in between. I add the additional 3g if my fat intake looks like it's going to be too low for the day, which happens often (at least 20% of my calories comre from fat)
See http://www.supplementwatch.com/suplib/supplement.asp?DocId=1119
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thanks... i thought it would be like more than 2, its just that some people say you can have too many of them and then get some kind of poisoning.......but that just didn't make seance to me because i cant really see how you can eat too much fish :)
A high quality fish oil should be 'free' of mercury, PCBs and other contaminants. It will be indicated on the label.
Some of the literature suggests that dosages up to 10g may be beneficial for certain applications. I'm 6-9g per day, 3 g per dose, at least 4 hours in between. I add the additional 3g if my fat intake looks like it's going to be too low for the day, which happens often (at least 20% of my calories comer from fat)
See http://www.supplementwatch.com/suplib/supplement.asp?DocId=1119
Same here, I split the doses and add more if dietary fat is down for the day.
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dunno. i drink mine straight from the bottle. a 150ml bottle last a few weeks
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1. I take a concentrated type from Vitamin Shoppe that is still 1 gram total per pill, but 500 mg total of DHA/EPA. I take 4 of these a day usually, 6 if I have any tendonitis issues - that gives me 2-3 grams of the DHA/EPA fats.
**I think its good to specify the EPA/DHA content because I have always read the recommendations based on the EFA content, not the total "fish oil" content per pill/cap. Most brands are 300mg of the EPA/DHA per 1 gram capsule.
2. I take two in the morning and two before bed, with food, when I take 6 a day I'll take another two with my mid-day meal.
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I just got 2 bottles from vital choice seafoods,,,,called sockeye salmon oil caps, they are also encased in a fish gelatin capsule unlike alot of animal gelatin, but yeah, when I burp, like I just ate 3 whole salmon,
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I am going to start taking fish oil, I am 225 lbs, work out at lunch time....how much should I take and when is the best time to take it..thanks in advance
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thanks... i thought it would be like more than 2, its just that some people say you can have too many of them and then get some kind of poisening.......but that just didn't make sence to me because i cant really see how you can eat too much fish :)
the poisoining happens with cod liver oil which people sometimes mistake as fish body oil. Cod liver oil contains mass amounts of Vitamin A which can be toxic in certian amounts.
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There is no set rules or amount. Everyone has different needs through the day. Just take it when you can with your meals.
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the poisoining happens with cod liver oil which people sometimes mistake as fish body oil. Cod liver oil contains mass amounts of Vitamin A which can be toxic in certian amounts.
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the poisoining happens with cod liver oil which people sometimes mistake as fish body oil. Cod liver oil contains mass amounts of Vitamin A which can be toxic in certian amounts.
I believe you'd need quite a bit of Cod Liver Oil to even approach toxic ammounts of vitamin A.
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Fish oil is short for "fish body oil". It is not the same thing as "cod liver oil". Cod liver oil contains high concentrations of vitamin A. Taking cod liver oil in the same amounts that are recommended for fish oil can be toxic, and even more so in people who have chronic renal failure (because vitamin A can build up to toxic levels).
http://www.igan.ca/id67.htm
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Fish oil is short for "fish body oil". It is not the same thing as "cod liver oil". Cod liver oil contains high concentrations of vitamin A. Taking cod liver oil in the same amounts that are recommended for fish oil can be toxic, and even more so in people who have chronic renal failure (because vitamin A can build up to toxic levels).
http://www.igan.ca/id67.htm
yeah, ok doc!
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with any luck you will load up on it
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yeah, ok doc!
hey Dr. D or princess what brands do you recommend? I have been using NOW brand but read the quality might be in question.
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hey Dr. D or princess what brands do you recommend? I have been using NOW brand but read the quality might be in question.
I prefer Carlson's because it is Mercury free. I highly suggest getting Krill Oil but it's expensive.
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I prefer Carlson's because it is Mercury free. I highly suggest getting Krill Oil but it's expensive.
Thanks Dr. D. One more question if you dont mind.... do you recommend multi vitamins? if so is there anything specific I should look for in them? Do you recommend extra supplementation of the major vitamins such as C, E, etc?
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Thanks Dr. D. One more question if you dont mind.... do you recommend multi vitamins? if so is there anything specific I should look for in them? Do you recommend extra supplementation of the major vitamins such as C, E, etc?
In 3 words!!
No!
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In 3 words!!
No!
lol..thank you much!
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hey Dr. D or princess what brands do you recommend? I have been using NOW brand but read the quality might be in question.
Where?
Several years ago I did extensive research on various brands and NOW was a good and safe brand, not their MAX EPA, but the Omega 3 fish oil concentrate. Every batch can test out differently though, depending on the time of year the fish are caught, the waters, etc.
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Where?
Several years ago I did extensive research on various brands and NOW was a good and safe brand, not their MAX EPA, but the Omega 3 fish oil concentrate. Every batch can test out differently though, depending on the time of year the fish are caught, the waters, etc.
I forget the name but its that online supplement review site, you know the one you have to pay to join. Name escapes me at the moment. Anyway it said the product was incomplete I think.
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I forget the name but its that online supplement review site, you know the one you have to pay to join. Name escapes me at the moment. Anyway it said the product was incomplete I think.
Consumer Labs?
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Optimum has enteric coated fish oil soft gel caps. They have 1,000 mg of Fish Oil, 120 mg of DHA and 180 mg of EPA. Whats good is that they are enteric coated so you dont get that stinky fish breath!!
I take 1 a day
www.optimumnutrition.com (http://www.optimumnutrition.com)
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Consumer Labs?
I checked the site and that was not the one.
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In 3 words!!
No!
DR. pauling would disagree, few vitamins have the multiple effects of vitamin c.
i would take 3-5 grams of ascobate based from minerals a day, numerous studies have shown the beneficial effects on inflammation, and immune function not to mention its very high on the ORAC.
for fish oil, the poisoning everyone is referring too is from heavy metals namely mercury. i would just get some good quality fish oil, perhaps genuine health which is a good company. krill is good but fuck doctor mercola :D ;D.
if you have an existing problem like allergies, asthma, colitis etc where inflammation is the main component(as it is in every disease, even CHD) i would suggest 3 grams of EPA and 2 of DHA or around 10 grams of fish oil a day. fish oil(or the o3 components) have strong inhibitory effects on leukotrienes which mediate the inflammatory response made from AA. supplementing with fish oil will suppress these inflammatory cytokines and offer alot of releif. also any inflammation in general.
i would also suggest adding some GLA to the mix via borage or black current, primrose as it has synergistic effects with DHA,EPA. also if possible try to get one with all three and DPA, a precursor to DHA.
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DR. pauling would disagree, few vitamins have the multiple effects of vitamin c.
i would take 3-5 grams of ascobate based from minerals a day, numerous studies have shown the beneficial effects on inflammation, and immune function not to mention its very high on the ORAC.
for fish oil, the poisoning everyone is referring too is from heavy metals namely mercury. i would just get some good quality fish oil, perhaps genuine health which is a good company. krill is good but fuck doctor mercola :D ;D.
if you have an existing problem like allergies, asthma, colitis etc where inflammation is the main component(as it is in every disease, even CHD) i would suggest 3 grams of EPA and 2 of DHA or around 10 grams of fish oil a day. fish oil(or the o3 components) have strong inhibitory effects on leukotrienes which mediate the inflammatory response made from AA. supplementing with fish oil will suppress these inflammatory cytokines and offer alot of releif. also any inflammation in general.
i would also suggest adding some GLA to the mix via borage or black current, primrose as it has synergistic effects with DHA,EPA. also if possible try to get one with all three and DPA, a precursor to DHA.
I agree we need some form of additional nutrients and vitamins but you need to see where you are getting it from. If what you are taking doesn't have its synergistic elements, it's useless. As for Mercola, I know you are half-joking but I have done a lot of writing for him and he is a dear friend, so be careful with what you say...thanks.
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Optimum has enteric coated fish oil soft gel caps. They have 1,000 mg of Fish Oil, 120 mg of DHA and 180 mg of EPA. Whats good is that they are enteric coated so you dont get that stinky fish breath!!
I take 1 a day
www.optimumnutrition.com (http://www.optimumnutrition.com)
For any appreciable benefit, you need more
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I agree we need some form of additional nutrients and vitamins but you need to see where you are getting it from. If what you are taking doesn't have its synergistic elements, it's useless. As for Mercola, I know you are half-joking but I have done a lot of writing for him and he is a dear friend, so be careful with what you say...thanks.
i challenge you and mercola to a cage fight ;D.
i agree on the synergistic elements, but little is known about phytonutrients and phytochemicals so its hard to make really good formulas imo
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For any appreciable benefit, you need more
Hi Princess,
Correct for maybe most, but I get a little nausea when I increase my dosage, but thats me. I have a family member that has lupus. She takes 4 a day and she is amazed at the benefits!!! Its a lot cheaper than all the crap the doctors give her!!
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Hi Princess,
Correct for maybe most, but I get a little nausea when I increase my dosage, but thats me. I have a family member that has lupus. She takes 4 a day and she is amazed at the benefits!!! Its a lot cheaper than all the crap the doctors give her!!
Nausea is not good and could be attributed to any number of things, however, before I suggest switching brands (sorry :-\), try any one or all of these - or any combination thereof... at least try to double/triple your dose
Keep them in the fridge
Keep them in the freezer
Take with food
Take before bed
Split your doses
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Nausea is not good and could be attributed to any number of things, however, before I suggest switching brands (sorry :-\), try any one or all of these - or any combination thereof... at least try to double/triple your dose
Keep them in the fridge
Keep them in the freezer
Take with foodTake before bed
Split your doses
definately take with food if you are getting nausea. Or right after eating also helps my stomach.
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Hi Princess,
Correct for maybe most, but I get a little nausea when I increase my dosage, but thats me. I have a family member that has lupus. She takes 4 a day and she is amazed at the benefits!!! Its a lot cheaper than all the crap the doctors give her!!
Cindy, do you have or had any gallbladder issues?
As for your family member, what form of Lupus does she have? Is it Systemic Lupus?
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Thanks Dr. D and Princess.
No Gall Bladder issues. I am as healthy as a horse or is it a mule. ;D Its only slight nausea. I am going to try taking it before bed.
Princess no plans on switching brands ;), no "fish" burps since I switched to ON enteric coated. Everyone is different. I had nausea through my entire pregnancy, every day!!
Dr D, She has systemic lupus. (skin and joint). She takes an antimalarian drug as well as some anti-inflammatory and anti-nausea prescription drugs....
She feels great with fish oil supplementation. I wish she knew about this when she was first positively diagnosed.
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Thanks Dr. D
Dr D, She has systemic lupus. (skin and joint). She takes an antimalarian drug as well as some anti-inflammatory and anti-nausea prescription drugs....
She feels great with fish oil supplementation. I wish she knew about this when she was first positively diagnosed.
Yeah, unfortunately our doctors have no clue about health,they just keep popping her those drugs.
I feel we have a big part in creating Lupus. It is an autoimmune disease where one starts
fighting one self from an overload of sympathetic stress. Now stress can
come from anywhere really. I knew a girl who had lupus, she was eating a bunch of breads, bagels, junk food and the doctor said it was ok. :o. 6 months later she died.
If you really want to improve her health, I would get her off all Gluten/ Grains and sugars ASAP. These will contribute to the problem. Healthy fats like Fish oils/cod liver oils, coconut oils and so forth will help improve her situation. Also, you need to address her stress issues. Any questions, let me know.
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Thanks Dr. D.
Funny (Well actually not), when she gets stressed her lupus flairs up.
She eats a lot of salads, not too many breads. I think she needs to exercise more. She has one dr that told her not to take vitamins because it would strengthen her immune system..
Well, at least the fish oil is working for her.
I heard that evening primrose oil is beneficial, but I have not recommended it.
Thanks Again!!
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Thanks Dr. D.
Funny (Well actually not), when she gets stressed her lupus flairs up.
She eats a lot of salads, not too many breads. I think she needs to exercise more. She has one dr that told her not to take vitamins because it would strengthen her immune system..
Well, at least the fish oil is working for her.
I heard that evening primrose oil is beneficial, but I have not recommended it.
Thanks Again!!
I would try to get her on some healthy proteins ( grass fed chickens as an example.) Use the bones to make broths. The broths will help. Under stress you need to consistently feed the body. I would get her Adrenals check out (saliva testing) and see where she is at.