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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: realkarateblackbelt on April 26, 2007, 10:25:15 PM
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This is under full-contact karate rules (bareknuckle, face punches illegal)
Karate beating Muay Thai under kickboxing rules:
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Seidokan Karate beating Tae Kwon Do:
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Karate roundhouse kicking demonstration:
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This is under full-contact karate rules (bareknuckle, face punches illegal)
Karate beating Muay Thai under kickboxing rules:
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Seidokan Karate beating Tae Kwon Do:
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I could find videos of anyone beating someone else up. What or how does this prove anything... Havent seen you on in a while... But damn-it Blackbelt this doesnt prove shit.
In addition I gurantee from you posting this within ten posts someone will call you a nub or an idiot...
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blackbelts prove shit if its in legitimate sports and handed out by legitimate people
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A black belt attained at a legitimate fighting-oriented karate dojo means a hell of a lot.
A black belt attained at a place trying to fill the dojo with weekend warriors doesn't mean much.
There are quite a few of the latter unfortunately. People are lazy, and the instructors pass them ahead as long as the money rolls in. They do point fighting once in a while and that's it. Mas Oyama stepped in after seeing this unfortunate state of things and brought karate back to it's roots as a serious standup fighting style. They do basically the same kata in full-contact like Kyokushin and Seidokan(sp?), the same techniques, but the important difference is they also spend a lot of time actually fighting. Any karate is powerful standup fighting if tought correctly, though I'm not a fan of Shotokan as the stance is too deep and rigid. The okinawan styles are very good too.
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do the karate styles you talk about allow punches to the head in sparring
if not it sucks.
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A black belt attained at a legitimate fighting-oriented karate dojo means a hell of a lot.
A black belt attained at a place trying to fill the dojo with weekend warriors doesn't mean much.
There are quite a few of the latter unfortunately. People are lazy, and the instructors pass them ahead as long as the money rolls in. They do point fighting once in a while and that's it. Mas Oyama stepped in after seeing this unfortunate state of things and brought karate back to it's roots as a serious standup fighting style. They do basically the same kata in full-contact like Kyokushin and Seidokan(sp?), the same techniques, but the important difference is they also spend a lot of time actually fighting. Any karate is powerful standup fighting if tought correctly, though I'm not a fan of Shotokan as the stance is too deep and rigid. The okinawan styles are very good too.
Karatedude,
You don't have to explain shit to these people who don't respect your training or your art. There are guys I've met who trained in traditional Japanese arts like Shodokan(sp?) and other styles that are some tough muthafuckas. Of course, these are guys that underwent SERIOUS old-school training, and didn't aquire their black belt at some McDojo in six months.
Anybody who puts in the blood sweat and tears of years of hard training earns my respect. I am pretty confident in the skills I've acquired for self-defense, but I'd be even nastier if I was more consistent in my training over the years. ;D
Most of these jokers on this board aren't real martial artists, and they view everything from the viewpoint of the "mma fanboy", which has grown by leaps and bounds over the last several years. Karate would definitely not be my first choice in selecting an art for self defense, but like I said, there are some tough guys in the area too.
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^ Exactly. I know people troll and joke around here. I originally started this account to join in on the trolling fun, but I'm a true fan of MMA and martial arts in general. I have to be serious sometimes. It's irritating to me how karate is portrayed as some abstract fighting style with flashy moves and point fighting. That's not the case at all. The shotokan style is probably the most common style of karate and it is in fact point fighting, with wide deep stances and punches cocked at the hip. Traditional Okinawan styles (from which Shotokan is derived, and changed into a sport)...Goju-Ryu, Shorin-Ryu, and Japanese Kyokushin and Seidokan are hardcore standup fighting styles proven in mixed standup competition. In fact Goju-Ryu has strength requirements, and you will not be promoted a rank otherwise.
Then you have many American dojos pushing bodies through the door because more people means more money. It is a liability to train full contact with kicks and knees to the head as they do in most traditional styles. You have people misrepresenting themselves as blackbelts, when they may have taken a year of TKD at the YMCA. A legitimate blackbelt takes 4-6 years to earn.
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The reason Muay Thai is so effective is the severity and often brutality of the training. Good Thai stadium champions will beat just about any other practicioners in a ring sport environment. Benny the Jet proved that.
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Not this again :P No comment it's getting old!