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'I Abhor Injustice,' Alleged Madam Says
By Sue Anne Pressley Montes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 29, 2007; Page A01
"Miz Julia" doled out a steady stream of advice, both practical and philosophical.
From her California home, she e-mailed tips to the 132 women who worked across the Washington area for the firm Pamela Martin & Associates. Her newsletters, now excerpted in court records, were a virtual how-to manual for avoiding all kinds of trouble in a business said to specialize in erotic fantasies.
"One never quite knows where evil, i.e., the vice squad is lurking in this business," read one arch entry from 1995. "The misogynists get a real kick out of surprising (shocking) you girls, when you give them the opportunity!!! . . . Therefore, you are to lock, double lock, triple lock all doors!!! . . . Figure it out, before they 'get cha'!!!"
Miz Julia was the pseudonym for Deborah Jeane Palfrey, the woman at the center of a sex scandal that has caused a deputy secretary of state to resign and has lawyers calling around town trying to keep their clients' names out of public view. A one-time law student, Palfrey ran for 13 years what she insists was a legal escort service. Federal prosecutors allege she was providing $300-an-hour prostitutes, and a grand jury indicted her in February on federal racketeering charges.
Palfrey piqued fascination -- and anxiety -- by first threatening to sell phone records that could unveil thousands of clients, and then handing them over, apparently for free, to ABC News. She is scheduled to appear tomorrow in U.S. District Court in the District.
On Friday, Randall L. Tobias resigned as deputy secretary of state one day after confirming to Brian Ross of ABC that he had patronized the Pamela Martin firm. Speaking yesterday on "Good Morning America," Ross said Tobias told him Tobias's number was on Palfrey's phone records because he had called "to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage." There had been "no sex," Ross quoted Tobias as saying, and that recently he has used another service, "with Central American gals," for massages.
Tobias, who is 65 and married, was director of U.S. Foreign Assistance and administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development. He previously held a top job in the Bush administration overseeing AIDS relief, in which he promoted abstinence and a policy requiring grant recipients to swear they oppose prostitution.
Palfrey's flamboyant attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, said Friday that he has been contacted by five lawyers recently, asking whether their clients' names are on Palfrey's list of 10,000 to 15,000 phone numbers. Some, Sibley said, have inquired about whether accommodations could be made to keep their identities private. ABC is expected to air a report on Palfrey and her clients on "20/20" on May 4, during sweeps.
More revelations are in the offing. Ross said the list includes the names of some "very prominent people," as well as a number of women with "important and serious jobs" who had worked as escorts for the firm.
The disclosures have been made sparely and artfully. Two weeks ago, in court documents about calling former clients to testify on her behalf, Palfrey named Harlan K. Ullman, an academic whose main claim to fame was a scholarly paper he wrote more than a decade ago on the military strategy known as "shock and awe." Responded Ullman: "It doesn't deserve the dignity of a response."
Sibley also filed notice that he intends to depose political consultant Dick Morris in a separate civil proceeding. Morris would not comment.
Palfrey also declined to comment on either Tobias's resignation or other names that could arise.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801192.html?hpid=topnews
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this is hilarious.
i hope that those of both parties are outed, and i wish politics had nothing to do with this. It's simple ethics. When i hear Rush saying "the liberal media is only telling us about the repubs that did it", I have to laugh at what is perhaps the lamest defense of the year. Instead of asking why scumbag pervs like that are allowed in his party, he has the gall to attack the messengers. LOL...
It's pathetic. I can only laugh at those who believe that crap. They are sad cases. They can't face facts, they can't face their families or themselves with the reality they preach for a team which doesn't deserve it.
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'D.C. Madam' believed dead
(CNN) -- A woman who police believe to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," was found dead in Florida Thursday, according to Tarpon Springs police.
The body has not been positively identified.
"Detectives are investigating an apparent suicide of a (white female) that appears to be in her early 50s," Tarpon Springs police said in a news release.
Suicide notes were found near the body in a small storage shed next to a mobile home, police said.
Palfrey, 52, was reportedly staying at the home of her mother, who owns the property where the body was found, police said.
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office will determine the cause of death, police said.
The county sheriff's office and the FBI are participating in the investigation.
Palfrey was convicted last month in connection with a high-end prostitution ring catering to Washington's elite.
She was found guilty of money laundering, racketeering and mail fraud. She was awaiting sentencing with a potential of 50 years in jail.
At least one lawmaker, Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, a Republican, turned up in the phone records of her business, Pamela Martin & Associates.
State Department official Randall Tobias resigned in May 2007 after confirming he patronized Palfrey's business.
She argued it was a legitimate, legal escort service.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html
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(CNN) -- A woman who police believe to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," was found dead in Florida Thursday, according to Tarpon Springs police.
art.palfrey.gi.jpg
Deborah Jeane Palfrey was convicted of running a high-powered prostitution ring.
The body has not been positively identified.
"Detectives are investigating an apparent suicide of a (white female) that appears to be in her early 50s," Tarpon Springs police said in a news release.
Suicide notes were found near the body in a small storage shed next to a mobile home, police said.
Palfrey, 52, was reportedly staying at the home of her mother, who owns the property where the body was found, police said.
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office will determine the cause of death, police said.
The county sheriff's office and the FBI are participating in the investigation.
Palfrey was convicted last month in connection with a high-end prostitution ring catering to Washington's elite.
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She was found guilty of money laundering, racketeering and mail fraud. She was awaiting sentencing with a potential of 50 years in jail.
At least one lawmaker, Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, a Republican, turned up in the phone records of her business, Pamela Martin & Associates.
State Department official Randall Tobias resigned in May 2007 after confirming he patronized Palfrey's business.
She argued it was a legitimate, legal escort service
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html)
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Should we start the CT countdown now or later? ;D
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I call bullshit! They were both murdered! They knew too much and they had them 'taken care of'. >:(
Woman believed to run D.C. escort service kills self near Tampa
By Mitch Stacy, Associated Press
May 1, 2008
A 52-year-old woman convicted of running a high-end prostitution ring in Washington that snagged Republican Sen. David Vitter was believed to have killed herself Thursday, police said.
A body police believe to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey was found in a shed near her mother's manufactured home Thursday morning in Tarpon Springs, about 20 miles northwest of Tampa. Police said in a statement that she left a suicide note, but they did not disclose its contents or how she killed herself.
Police said they were trying to confirm the woman's identity, and declined to release more details until a news conference Thursday afternoon. A man who answered a phone listed for Palfrey's mother declined to comment. Officers were outside the mother's white and pink home in the community of mostly retirees.
``This is a tragic news and my heart goes out to her mother,'' said defense attorney Preston Burton, who represented Palfrey in her criminal trial that ended last month.
``Although we're aware of the media reports, we're still waiting for confirmation from law enforcement authorities,'' said Channing Phillips, a spokesman for the District of Columbia U.S. attorney's office, which spent years investigating and prosecuting Palfrey.
Palfrey was convicted April 15 by a federal jury of running a prostitution service that catered to members of Washington's political elite, including Vitter, a Louisiana Republican. She had denied her escort service engaged in prostitution, saying that if any of the women engaged in sex acts for money, they did so without her knowledge.
She was convicted of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering.
But the trial concluded without revealing many new details about the service or its clients. Vitter was among possible witnesses, but did not take the stand. Palfrey faced a maximum of 55 years in prison and was free pending her sentencing July 24.
Prosecutors said Palfrey operated the prostitution service for 13 years.
Vitter, a first-term senator who is married and has four children, has acknowledged being involved with Palfrey's escort service and has apologized for what he called a ``very serious sin.'' But he avoided commenting further.
Besides Vitter, the trial also concluded without the testimony of military strategist Harlan Ullman or Randall Tobias, a former senior State Department official. Both men had been named among possible witnesses.
One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.
Last year, Palfrey said she, too, was humiliated by her prostitution charges, but said: ``I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of.''
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lol
bullshit!
she didn't commit suicide.
hahaha
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Hahaha, murdered...HAHAHAHA. Yeah, right.
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Should we start the CT countdown now or later? ;D
I hope you're not saying that because you believe there's no reason to be suspicious?
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Brandy Britton info:
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/0207/brandy_britton/Brandy-Britton(1)200.jpg)
http://www.lifeinlegacy.com/2007/0127/BrittonBrandy.jpg
BALTIMORE, MD. (Crime Library) —"Alexis is sophisticated, refined, educated and articulate. She has two Bachelor's of Science degrees, one in biology and the other in sociology. She also holds a Ph.D. from an elite university and continues to work part-time in her discipline. Professional clients often say that they enjoy talking with Alexis and that her intelligence, creativity and energy enhances their experiences." This is the description of Alexis Angel that appeared on her Internet website, AlexisAngel.com (now offline).
What most people did not know was that Alexis Angel was actually 43-year-old Brandy Britton, a former sociology and anthropology professor at the University of Maryland. Britton was, according to her website, "a very passionate full-service, GFE (girl friend experience) escort and erotic masseuse."
This multi-talented woman, who was popular with friends and johns alike, was found hanged in her home on Saturday. Police do not suspect foul play in the incident, which they believe was a result of both legal and financial problems Britton was dealing with.
Britton, who graduated from the University of California in 1994, worked as a professor at the University of Maryland. Her stint there came to an end in 1999, when she lost her job and filed a gender discrimination lawsuit against the university. The suit was later dismissed after a federal judge ruled that Britton had falsified data on a research project for the National Institutes of Health. Following the loss of her job, Britton married, divorced, and tried her hand at various occupations before allegedly settling upon prostitution as a way of earning an income.
Britton first came to the attention of the Howard County police in March 2005, when an anonymous caller told the department that "prostitution activity" was taking place at Britton's $400,000 Ellicott City home. That same caller provided information about a website where Britton was offering her services.
Britton's site offered a description of her physical appearance: "I am 5' 8", tall, 135 lbs and have long blonde hair and green eyes. My measurements are 38D (NATURAL breasts)-25-38. I am toned, yet curvaceous." The site also hosted a photo gallery, where prospective clients could see who they would be spending their money on.
"I am a very passionate person and I truly enjoy my work and my interactions with clients," she wrote in the "about me" section of her website. "I am a professional and am very sensitive to the need for privacy and discretion. I treat my clients with respect and I expect the same in return. I listen to clients' needs, desires and fantasies and incorporate these into our interactions. I am very creative and love to try new things."
Britton's website also listed a breakdown of her services and fees.
1 HOUR INCALL ~ $300
1 HOUR OUTCALL ~ $375
Dinner Date or Evening Out (5 hours) ~ $1,200
Overnight (12 hours) ~ $1,800
Overnight (24 hrs) $2,500
Weekend $4,500
1 Week $7,000
Weekends and Longer Periods of Companionship for Travel Are Also Available. Please email for details.
There was also a link where visitors to her website could submit reviews and rate their experiences with her.
"Everything that Alexis wrote in her profile is true," wrote a user with the screen name Newimago. "She is even cuter in person. She truly loves her job and is incredible at it. I have seen some of the premier providers in the area and must admit she is at the top when it comes to a true GFE. Very sensual and kissable. I look forward to seeing her again. Thanks Alexis!!"
As investigators began to delve into Britton's illegal activities, they received a second complaint from a woman who, according to police, complained that "her husband had been visiting a prostitute." The woman said when she confronted her husband, he confessed to spending between $300 and $500 a month on Britton for "sex and fellatio."
On January 17, 2006, an undercover detective contacted Britton and expressed an interest in her services. Several days later, the officer showed up at Britton's home, whereupon she led him upstairs. Police wrote in the arrest complaint that she told the officer "to undress and place the money on a table by the door." The officer then set down $400 and walked out of the room as a group of uniformed officers stormed Britton's home. According to a complaint filed with the Howard County district attorney, investigators found a vibrator, 150 condoms, lubricant, cash, and a computer. Britton was charged with four counts of prostitution and faced up to four years in prison and a $2000 fine.
Shortly after her arrest, Britton spoke with a reporter from the Examiner. During the interview, she said she did not "trade sex for money" and that any money she received was for "legal adult personal services." According to Britton, she did not view "companionship" as prostitution.
Britton's trial, which was delayed several times by both the defense and the prosecution, was set to begin on Monday. According to Britton's attorney, Christopher Flohr, her home was in foreclosure and she was dealing with depression relating to her arrest.
Yesterday, Flohr issued a statement saying Britton's death "underscores an important question: Was the public benefited at all by the resources spent on her arrest and prosecution? As we ponder the apparent senselessness of her passing, we must openly wonder about ... a criminal justice system that seeks to punish a person rather than heal them."
Wayne Kirwan, a spokesman for the Howard County State's Attorney's office, did not believe Britton's legal problems were sufficient cause for her to commit suicide. "On a first-time offense, I doubt if she would have served any time," Kirwan said in an interview with the Associated Press.
After her arrest, Britton agreed to an interview with a reporter from The Washington Post. She spoke of her life in general, but dodged questions regarding her pending legal problems. However, she did make one very telling comment about her situation. "I'm going to lay down and die. I'm so depressed," she said.
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I hope you're not saying that because you believe there's no reason to be suspicious?
No, not at all. I knew little about the story when i posted it, but it seemed like the perfect set of circumstances for a CT.
Here's what i don;t know:
- The autopsy report
- The police report
- Details surrounding her suicide notes
- Other evidence
Here's what i do know:
One KGO (AM 810 in the SF bay area) earlier today they had some one who she was attempting to write a book with who said that she stated that she'd commit suicide if she had to go to prison and that she didn't know much that would hurt anyone's reputation or career.
Also, i've heard other things where she wrote or said that she's commit suicide if she had to go to prison.
I was just having fun with this.
Should we be suspicious? In the absence of facts? YES. But as they come in....... i initially lean to "no."
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(CNN) -- A woman who police believe to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," was found dead in Florida Thursday, according to Tarpon Springs police.
art.palfrey.gi.jpg
Deborah Jeane Palfrey was convicted of running a high-powered prostitution ring.
The body has not been positively identified.
"Detectives are investigating an apparent suicide of a (white female) that appears to be in her early 50s," Tarpon Springs police said in a news release.
Suicide notes were found near the body in a small storage shed next to a mobile home, police said.
Palfrey, 52, was reportedly staying at the home of her mother, who owns the property where the body was found, police said.
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office will determine the cause of death, police said.
The county sheriff's office and the FBI are participating in the investigation.
Palfrey was convicted last month in connection with a high-end prostitution ring catering to Washington's elite.
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She was found guilty of money laundering, racketeering and mail fraud. She was awaiting sentencing with a potential of 50 years in jail.
At least one lawmaker, Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, a Republican, turned up in the phone records of her business, Pamela Martin & Associates.
State Department official Randall Tobias resigned in May 2007 after confirming he patronized Palfrey's business.
She argued it was a legitimate, legal escort service
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/dc.madam/index.html)
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No, not at all. I knew little about the story when i posted it, but it seemed like the perfect set of circumstances for a CT.
Here's what i don;t know:
- The autopsy report
- The police report
- Details surrounding her suicide notes
- Other evidence
Here's what i do know:
One KGO (AM 810 in the SF bay area) earlier today they had some one who she was attempting to write a book with who said that she stated that she'd commit suicide if she had to go to prison and that she didn't know much that would hurt anyone's reputation or career.
Also, i've heard other things where she wrote or said that she's commit suicide if she had to go to prison.
I was just having fun with this.
Should we be suspicious? In the absence of facts? YES. But as they come in....... i initially lean to "no."
oh yea, the one thing we do have sure is a huge pile of motive.
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most likely she was in a horrible place in her life and unfortunately chose to kill herself.
Really fucking sad actually given how we've got war criminals and mass murderers running our country (some of whom probably availed themselves of her services)
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most likely she was in a horrible place in her life and unfortunately chose to kill herself.
Really fucking sad actually given how we've got war criminals and mass murderers running our country (some of whom probably availed themselves of her services)
LOL... If I had half of washington by the balls, I would't consider myself in a horrible place, just in need of a dozen good bodyguards.
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But Flynt hinted at much juicier material to be unearthed.
"Let me put it this way, there were more Democrats on it than Republicans," he said, supporting his theory that the only reason this case was of interest was because of the number of Democrats who could be targeted by the Bush administration.
But Flynt said his conversations with Palfrey were off the record, and if any investigators come knocking on his door for names, they'll have to look elsewhere.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353876,00.html
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But Flynt hinted at much juicier material to be unearthed.
"Let me put it this way, there were more Democrats on it than Republicans," he said, supporting his theory that the only reason this case was of interest was because of the number of Democrats who could be targeted by the Bush administration.
But Flynt said his conversations with Palfrey were off the record, and if any investigators come knocking on his door for names, they'll have to look elsewhere.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353876,00.html
No male prostitues, of course there will be more dems on it :D But that doesn't really matter. Public outcry comes where there is serious hypocracy involved dem or rep. That's why the republicans get hit so hard in the public standing behind their family values and anti gay stance. Remember, Monica was all republicans. Had they gave a shit about the way the people thought, they would have dropped it. Polls showed the people didn't give a fuck and thought they should step back. So what I'm saying is, even if only 10% is republican, they have more to lose :D
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No male prostitues, of course there will be more dems on it :D But that doesn't really matter. Public outcry comes where there is serious hypocracy involved dem or rep. That's why the republicans get hit so hard in the public standing behind their family values and anti gay stance. Remember, Monica was all republicans. Had they gave a shit about the way the people thought, they would have dropped it. Polls showed the people didn't give a fuck and thought they should step back. So what I'm saying is, even if only 10% is republican, they have more to lose :D
Not a partisan issue IMO.
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Not a partisan issue IMO.
Oh yes it is. to a degree and in certain areas of the issue, it is bigtime.
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Oh yes it is. to a degree and in certain areas of the issue, it is bigtime.
What makes the DC Madam a partisan issue?
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Wayne Kirwan, a spokesman for the Howard County State's Attorney's office, did not believe Britton's legal problems were sufficient cause for her to commit suicide. "On a first-time offense, I doubt if she would have served any time," Kirwan said in an interview with the Associated Press.
With this I have to agree. just look at the method used... hanging? Give me a break!
Women don't hang themselves. They take a bottle full of sleeping pills, ...they slit their wrists in the tub,
...but they don't put shotguns in their mouths, or hang themselves. Those are male MO's. This lady was OFFED!
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What makes the DC Madam a partisan issue?
Not the DC Madam herself ::) What I said is pretty clear, no need to play like that ;)
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Not the DC Madam herself ::) What I said is pretty clear, no need to play like that ;)
Whatever dude. I said this is not a partisan issue (referring to the DC Madam). Don't know what you're talking about.
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Whatever dude. I said this is not a partisan issue (referring to the DC Madam). Don't know what you're talking about.
huh, I don't know what you're talking about... I feel what I said above explains why I think it is, you didn't address what I said, you just said you don't think it's partisan... Where am I suppose to go with that after I already laid it out... It was your move, you laid down, "It's not a partisan issue" What else was I suppose to say to that...
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huh, I don't know what you're talking about... I feel what I said above explains why I think it is, you didn't address what I said, you just said you don't think it's partisan... Where am I suppose to go with that after I already laid it out... It was your move, you laid down, "It's not a partisan issue" What else was I suppose to say to that...
You explained it very well; no need to say any more. We get it. Anyone who doesn't get it is (playing) dumb. :-\
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You explained it very well; no need to say any more. We get it. Anyone who doesn't get it is (playing) dumb. :-\
Are you sure he's playing? :P
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FOX news - geraldo and Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsome - both pointing out it could be homicide.
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huh, I don't know what you're talking about... I feel what I said above explains why I think it is, you didn't address what I said, you just said you don't think it's partisan... Where am I suppose to go with that after I already laid it out... It was your move, you laid down, "It's not a partisan issue" What else was I suppose to say to that...
I was talking about the DC Madam. Male prostitutes, whether Republicans are anti-gay, Bill Clinton and Monica-gate, etc. have nothing to do with the DC Madam.
I know you believe that sex-related misconduct is a partisan issue. I don't. No party has a monopoly. They're in both parties. You'll have Foley one minute and Kwame Kilpatrick the next. Even Larry Flynt said in the excerpt I posted that "there were more Democrats on it than Republicans" involved with the DC Madam. Sounds bipartisan to me. :)
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politics should have nothing to do with it.
a bunch of guys fvcked hookers. making it dem/repub is moronic.
the madame got caught. It's just like any other shady business - drugs, guns, whatever. You can take the hit and do the time, or you can rat everyone out.
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240, Beach, all I'm saying is republicans who happened to be on that list typically will have more fallout potential than dems. There's nothing moronic about that. Where there is greater hypocrisy revealed in the crimes and the one committing them, that's just the nature of that beast and Republicans with their family values etc have set themselves of for it. I did not say shit about the actual DC madam issue being dem or republican. I said republicans have more to lose if they're on the list. Beaches reply was that it was not a partisan issue. Well no but there are some partisan ramifications that differ based on some differences between the parties and having figured he understood my post, I thought this was how he applied his no partisan statement.
On something like this, republicans will have more fallout than a dem on their impeach Clinton Crusade alone, now start stacking on their "Anti Gay, we're more family value, Jesus is on our side etc etc etc..." A republican has more to lose if his name pops out of a little black book.
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240, Beach, all I'm saying is republicans who happened to be on that list typically will have more fallout potential than dems. There's nothing moronic about that. Where there is greater hypocrisy revealed in the crimes and the one committing them, that's just the nature of that beast and Republicans with their family values etc have set themselves of for it. I did not say shit about the actual DC madam issue being dem or republican. I said republicans have more to lose if they're on the list. Beaches reply was that it was not a partisan issue. Well no but there are some partisan ramifications that differ based on some differences between the parties and having figured he understood my post, I thought this was how he applied his no partisan statement.
On something like this, republicans will have more fallout than a dem on their impeach Clinton Crusade alone, now start stacking on their "Anti Gay, we're more family value, Jesus is on our side etc etc etc..." A republican has more to lose if his name pops out of a little black book.
I understand your point. I just don't entirely agree with it. I agree that anyone who publicly talks about family values while undermining his or her own family is a hypocrite. I don't agree that you can talk about sex scandals in group terms. It's an individual thing, just like most any other misconduct. Craig being a closet homosexual didn't say anything about Republicans, it said something about Craig. Spitzer being the mother of all hypocrites didn't say anything about Democrats, it said something about Spitzer.
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I don't agree that you can talk about sex scandals in group terms. It's an individual thing, just like most any other misconduct. Craig being a closet homosexual didn't say anything about Republicans, it said something about Craig. Spitzer being the mother of all hypocrites didn't say anything about Democrats, it said something about Spitzer.
agreed.
i wasn't calling you a moron, berserker... i just hate it when parties are connected, because people then defend the guy because he's in their party. I'd almost rather the party not even be mentioned in the news (good luck with that one lol).