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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: NoCalBbEr on May 07, 2007, 04:24:08 PM
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hey guys
I've been use an Anti-Estrogen product and I've put on about 25lbs in the last 3 months. I used a 4 week on and 4 week on cycle and using Tibulus when i was off cycle. Am I taking too much test boosters and not letting my body recover or go back to normal hormone belance?? do I need to use tribulus?? I know that I don't need any PCT.. I'm kinda scared of losing my gains.
Thanks
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If you use a supplement like a NOX booster or creatine for performance and you come of it you will loose a fair bit of that performance.
If you use Trib, Eurycoma or any anti-E for a test boost when you come of your test levels will not collapse but will go back to what they where before you used the product.
Cycling these products on and off or rotating supplements will help you to keep gaining in the long run.
But there is no free ride if you stop all supplements you will loose a fair portion of your gains or strength but definitely not all.
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The only hormone out there worth writing home about is TREN Xtreme by American Cellular Labs. Lean tren like gains not to mention amazing strength. When comming off of a pro hormone cycle it is encourged to run some type of trib stack to boost natural test levels. And most of all pick that libido back up. Trenbolone derivitives (which seem to be the hottest new thing due to low sides) dont require an estrogen blocker ( since they dont convert to estrogen). Some of these hormones can shut you down pretty hard. At my stores i sell tons of Trib. Certian ones work much better then others. Any questions let me know. Effective product and a worthy purchase.
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if you guys had to chooise between an Anti-Estrogen or Tribulus which one would you pick??
thx again
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I would use Novedex XT.
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tribulus doesn't work.
If all, it raises LH, which will result in both estrogen and testosterone raises.
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woul I need to do a pct with Novedex XT?? or just cycle off
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I would disagree with DK I have been using trib for a while, and my gains have been substantial.
I like it, and it works well for me, but that isn't the rule for everyone.
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I would disagree with DK I have been using trib for a while, and my gains have been substantial.
I like it, and it works well for me, but that isn't the rule for everyone.
How old are you?
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woul I need to do a pct with Novedex XT?? or just cycle off
NOVADEX is almost like a PCT in itself, according to GASPARY nutrition when you come off your levels of T and E go back to normal with no crashes.
So simple cycling is all you need.
tribulus doesn't work.
If all, it raises LH, which will result in both estrogen and testosterone raises.
I agree that Trib raises LH levels thus raising of both T and E, in fact the only time I got a puffy nipple tip was when I was on a Trib product THE BLUE PILL.
But as a 40 year old guy I do find that it gives me a boost, both in energy levels and recovery.
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if you guys had to chooise between an Anti-Estrogen or Tribulus which one would you pick??
thx again
Gaspari Novedex Xt or Netrients Testone.
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when I cycle off test test boosters, will I feel like crap and lose the weight that I've gain while on on?? This is the fast time that I've gone off competely without any PCT.
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when I cycle off test test boosters, will I feel like crap and lose the weight that I've gain while on on?? This is the fast time that I've gone off competely without any PCT.
Are you talking test boosters or PH/ designer steroids?
Test Booster don't need PCT, they ARE PCT. They are supposed to boost your own test, what the hell do you want to take for PCT?
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when I cycle off test test boosters, will I feel like crap and lose the weight that I've gain while on on?? This is the fast time that I've gone off competely without any PCT.
Get your blood work done. Without that, who knows where your estrogen, test, gh, thyroid levels are at. Some of these over the counter pro-hormones can wreck havoc on your system and without a pct, you could be crashing.